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2013-01-31 11:06:59 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Way to miss the point, you two.


Way to be overly defensive about a tongue-in-cheek response pointing out an error.

... you can't deny the fact that in GTA, the activity of mistreating prostitutes exists in the game and that it is played for entertainment value, not as a church moral lesson about how it is horrible and will send you straight to hell. That was the point.

But, the activity of mistreating prostitutes itself is not presented for entertainment value. It exists within a game presented for entertainment value, but that doesn't mean that every action within it is somehow glorified. You can eat fast food, listen to the radio, reload a gun, or drown. Are those glorified, merely because they exist within the game? Context matters.

Looks like I shouldn't have used video games as an example. That's the one sacred cow that Farkers will reflexively be over-defensive about even more than iPhone apps about male-bashing.

Or, it could be because you're making an asinine out-of-context argument based on a falsehood, and you could make the same exact argument without jumping on a bandwagon of misinformation. For example, consider the Battle Raper game. Or Lara Croft's ever-expanding breasts with each new version, or the rape attempt scene in the latest incarnation. Or the fact that the same item of armor is presented different on male and female toons in WoW or other MMORPGs. Or this:
www.vgcats.com
 
2013-01-31 11:07:58 AM

L.D. Ablo: My ex-fiancee would get ragingly drunk.  One time she got into a fistfight with the neighbor, smashed a window and got arrested.  On the Night of the Flying Plates, she started throwing them at my head.  Fortunately, she was too drunk to have good aim.

Nice to see an app that encourages this sort of thing.

/happily single today
//lives with cats


Went gay?
 
2013-01-31 11:14:20 AM

imfallen_angel: The one thing that's a fact, a man has no resources, no assistance, is always the bad guy (until proven innocent)...


Yeah, I had that used against me as a threat.

Fortunately, everyone I talked to took me seriously, to the point of them explaining to me what my situation actually was.  I got out of it fairly quickly, with only some dented walls, a couple of scrapes and a depleted bank account.

/feel your pain too, bro
 
2013-01-31 11:14:21 AM
So, when is this coming back as an app (NSFW, though Wikipedia)?
 
2013-01-31 11:18:11 AM

ciberido: Egoy3k: I don't need one. I'm not asserting that they are. The professor in the story was either being dishonest or had a personal history of having issues with females and heavy machinery. Talk to him not me.

So you and  MsIndy are the same person?   MsIndy is one of your alts?  Because nothing you say makes any damn sense otherwise.


I never claimed that women were bad at operating heavy machinery. The professor that denied her a job using heavy machinery based on her sex claimed that previous females in the position had done a poor job and that he prefers to have men in those roles.

She then claimed that if you replace woman with black or Turkish that the professor would have been appalled to hold such a position.

My response was that he wouldn't if every black or Turkish person he hired had done a bad job too.

I know reading is hard but Jesus that is not exactly a hard series of posts to understand.
 
2013-01-31 11:27:26 AM

Theaetetus: ciberido: VonEvilstein: Nemo's Brother: jaylectricity: You used to be able to sell your daughter for a couple of goats. Karma is a biatch.

This is how of liberals actually think v

As a liberal, I actually think you are full of shiat.

This is like the 5th thread where  Nemo's Brother has played the "This is what liberals actually believe " card, and he's been more full of crap each thread.  At this rate, in about 3 more threads he'll be claiming that liberals killed off the dinosaurs.

Well, you don't see any dinosaurs in those liberal bastions of Massachusetts, New York, or California, do you?


Yet I was commenting on a liberal voicing that opinion early on in the thread.  You guys have obviously never stepped foot in a university.
 
2013-01-31 11:29:41 AM

Egoy3k: No it doesn't. It never has and probably never will glorify killing hookers. This is either a falshood that nobody has explained to you yet or an outright lie.


You really shouldnt white knight a game named after a crime.
 
2013-01-31 11:34:21 AM
/weirdest girl-boner...
 
2013-01-31 11:37:47 AM

Egoy3k: I read your whole post but you are still wrong. Mistreating prostitutes does not 'exist' in the game any more than it does in real life. You can pay for their 'services' or not as you like. The game never actually gives any indications that this is even possible let alone encouraged and it's a pretty obscure part of the game as it is. Once the transaction is complete the hooker walks away. If you decide to kill her she drops some money just like any other random person on the street will drop some money when you kill them.

Killing hookers has never been a mechanic in GTA just like flying into the World Trade Center isn't a mechanic in a flight sim.


GTA isn't a game about objectives. It's about potential. The first one was top down. That means you don't have to go right, you can go any direction. It's called been called "open world" or "sandbox." It pioneered the farking genre. And this was the first thing a friend of mine showed me when demonstrating the game. I don't care if you're penalized - you can do it. You can straight-up murder prostitutes in assassins creed.

If the only difference between GTA's murder sprees and this game's domestic violence is that one is an objective, your position is flimsy.

Either way, both are JUST GAMES. FFS.  If slapping your boyfriend in this game influences real life, I can't wait until they release a game where you shoot at people.
 
2013-01-31 11:39:02 AM

Moonfisher: There are plenty of men being abused by women as well as both genders being abused in same sex relationships. You don't hear about the men because they seldom come forward. Law enforcement usually doesn't take them seriously and their peers ridicule them and question their masculinity. It's silly to get your panties wadded over an app, but we as a society need to address all abuse and take measures to end the double standard.


Now an x, wife hit me when I was asleep.  Left a bump on my eye socket for over a week. Other violent things she did including attacking me with a large knife. Lawyer told me NOT to report it as it would not be helpful to me in court. One thing he said was that I was/am in good shape and at the same height had  40 pounds on her.  No one would take it seriously because she can't win in a fight.  Crazy B married her lawyer, who is about our parent's age.  justice - LOL

She has  dissociative personality disorder and other issues, her Dad's a preacher. Crazy came on after child birth.
 
2013-01-31 11:41:21 AM

WhippingBoy: That's exactly what I'd expect a patriarchal oppressor to say. A vain attempt to remain in power, under the guise of "personal responsibility".


Man, do you really think feminists think this way? Damn,y ou're just as bad as the folks that were ragging on you in that other thread a few weeks back. So much for claiming you wanted to try and understand stuff and actually have a discussion. =/.
 
2013-01-31 11:46:29 AM

Felgraf: WhippingBoy: That's exactly what I'd expect a patriarchal oppressor to say. A vain attempt to remain in power, under the guise of "personal responsibility".

Man, do you really think feminists think this way? Damn,y ou're just as bad as the folks that were ragging on you in that other thread a few weeks back. So much for claiming you wanted to try and understand stuff and actually have a discussion. =/.


I wouldn't bother with him. He basically admitted he just does this to troll in another thread.
 
2013-01-31 11:49:47 AM
Honestly, I really think that abuse towards males is a serious and real issue that should be discussed with the same maturity that the abuse towards women is.

I also think that the app brings an interesting opportunity to discuss the subject.

But being offended? No... this is not really worth it.

There are plenty of real gender problems (on both sides) that are worth being offended, but this is not one of those.

/Didn't gave a damn about the violence on GTA either...
//Pixels don't have rights.
 
2013-01-31 11:51:44 AM

DarkPascual: Pixels don't have rights.


slacktory.com
 
2013-01-31 11:55:46 AM

Theaetetus: DarkPascual: Pixels don't have rights.

[slacktory.com image 600x200]


FINE!!! Pixels do have rights depending the level of cuteness...
 
2013-01-31 11:57:43 AM

Felgraf: WhippingBoy: That's exactly what I'd expect a patriarchal oppressor to say. A vain attempt to remain in power, under the guise of "personal responsibility".

Man, do you really think feminists think this way? Damn,y ou're just as bad as the folks that were ragging on you in that other thread a few weeks back. So much for claiming you wanted to try and understand stuff and actually have a discussion. =/.


It's like some people are blind to the vile bigotry some people love flying under the guise of 'feminism'.

Was I the only person who read Julie Burchill's recent article in The Guardian, or did that not happen?
 
2013-01-31 12:02:43 PM

moothemagiccow: Egoy3k: No it doesn't. It never has and probably never will glorify killing hookers. This is either a falshood that nobody has explained to you yet or an outright lie.

You really shouldnt white knight a game named after a crime.


It's not white knighting it's a statement of fact. The game does not glorify killing hookers. It's untrue to say that it does. Once again, GTA glorifiys killing hookers just like a pre-2001 flight sim glorifies flying planes into the world trade center. In other words it doesn't. I'm not the one fixating on GTA here. I responded to the OPs whole post, you are the ones who have focused on the game, not me.
 
2013-01-31 12:11:14 PM

Theaetetus: I wouldn't bother with him. He basically admitted he just does this to troll in another thread.


I'm just frustrated because I (pseudo) defended him in a thread a few months back, more because I believed he was just being ineloquent (And was able to, it seems, help at least a few people understand where some of the frustration comes from in feminism threads from the male perspective. That is, why some people jump into such threads venting frustrations that they're ignored or treated unfairly, since the topics don't occur in a vacuum. And one can make the case that issues for men can be *perceived* as being dismissed outright, rather than simply being treated as lower priority, and that is where some frustration can build from, etc etc...).

And I'm pissed that I wasted good will on trying to help someone who was just farking around and being a dick. I suppose the fact that such pseudo-defense lead to a (small bit) of useful conversation should temper that frustration, though...

Quinsisdos: It's like some people are blind to the vile bigotry some people love flying under the guise of 'feminism'.


Perhaps I should rephrase it as "all feminine." Yeah, there are some horrible people and misandrists in the movement, from what I understand. There's horrible folks everywhere.

Also, in a previous thread, he had simply claimed to seek understanding discussion (and was not falling on the 'rabid misandrist' area of the spectrum), sooooo... yeah, he's being a dick here.
 
2013-01-31 12:13:23 PM

Egoy3k: moothemagiccow: Egoy3k: No it doesn't. It never has and probably never will glorify killing hookers. This is either a falshood that nobody has explained to you yet or an outright lie.

You really shouldnt white knight a game named after a crime.

It's not white knighting it's a statement of fact. The game does not glorify killing hookers. It's untrue to say that it does. Once again, GTA glorifiys killing hookers just like a pre-2001 flight sim glorifies flying planes into the world trade center. In other words it doesn't. I'm not the one fixating on GTA here. I responded to the OPs whole post, you are the ones who have focused on the game, not me.


I'm a big fan of GTA and I don't think it's fair to say that the game doesn't glorify killing hookers. It glorifies killing pretty much anyone, including hookers.
 
2013-01-31 12:21:36 PM

Treygreen13: Egoy3k: moothemagiccow: Egoy3k: No it doesn't. It never has and probably never will glorify killing hookers. This is either a falshood that nobody has explained to you yet or an outright lie.

You really shouldnt white knight a game named after a crime.

It's not white knighting it's a statement of fact. The game does not glorify killing hookers. It's untrue to say that it does. Once again, GTA glorifiys killing hookers just like a pre-2001 flight sim glorifies flying planes into the world trade center. In other words it doesn't. I'm not the one fixating on GTA here. I responded to the OPs whole post, you are the ones who have focused on the game, not me.

I'm a big fan of GTA and I don't think it's fair to say that the game doesn't glorify killing hookers. It glorifies killing pretty much anyone, including hookers.


That's fair to say, but the implication of that logic is that if they were to make hookers invulnerable in GTV V that it would be sexist.
 
2013-01-31 12:22:17 PM

Felgraf: Theaetetus: I wouldn't bother with him. He basically admitted he just does this to troll in another thread.

I'm just frustrated because I (pseudo) defended him in a thread a few months back, more because I believed he was just being ineloquent (And was able to, it seems, help at least a few people understand where some of the frustration comes from in feminism threads from the male perspective. That is, why some people jump into such threads venting frustrations that they're ignored or treated unfairly, since the topics don't occur in a vacuum. And one can make the case that issues for men can be *perceived* as being dismissed outright, rather than simply being treated as lower priority, and that is where some frustration can build from, etc etc...).


Sure. I think it's a shame that that frustration leads to misogyny, because men's rights activists and feminists could be natural allies, if there wasn't so much name calling and rage flying around. The cure for many of the MRA complaints - family courts that assume that women are primary caretakers and/or can't be self-sufficient, maternity leave that's not reflected in paternity leave, etc. - are the non-discriminatory wage and employment policies advocated by feminists. If it wasn't the default that women earn less, then the economic decision for which parent stays at home would be fairer and there would be more stay at home dads, which would reverse the family court assumption.
Same is true for many other complaints, too - who is less likely to be a gold-digging lazy biatch than a career-driven feminist? Who is less likely to sabotage birth control or try to trap a man into marriage?
 
2013-01-31 12:24:24 PM
That is just creepy as shiat.
 
2013-01-31 12:27:55 PM

yves0010: Vegetative reproduction: Have you ever wrestled a girlfriend?

Yes and she won a few times with and without cheating.

Vegetative reproduction: Have you ever been hit by a woman?

Yes and in certain places, it will make a man cry. Ever get nailed in the balls? It will leave you on the floor for a few minutes and hurt for a while after that.


Is your girlfriend almost the same weight a you?  I have wrestled many different sized people (male and female) in college judo.  Although smaller, more experienced people could submit me when I first started, after a couple of months, I had no problem dominating people >20lbs lighter than me.  Likewise, when wrestling the really huge 240+lb guys, I was never been able to submit them.  Since men are generally taller, weigh more, and have  higher testosterone than women, most women are no match for most men physically.

I have been kicked, kneed, and elbowed in the nuts.  It hurts, but unless you get hit just right, it can be shrugged off.  Testicles are surprisingly resilient.  The elasticity of your sac usually prevents significant testicular injury.
 
2013-01-31 12:28:01 PM

namatad: L.D. Ablo: On the Night of the Flying Plates

ooooooooooooooooooooo
you made me cry I laughed so hard

been there done that
my crazy mom was awesome at flying plate night


My mother also was quite the champion of Plate Frisbee. It's all in the wrist.
(always towards our dad's poor head, never me or the brother's)
 This app is pretty degrading, and it makes us non-crazy women look bad. I'm wondering who designed it? A man? Doubtful. Scorned woman? Most likely.
 
2013-01-31 12:30:09 PM

Theaetetus: The cure for many of the MRA complaints - family courts that assume that women are primary caretakers and/or can't be self-sufficient, maternity leave that's not reflected in paternity leave, etc


I don't think that's quite so simple (the cultural believe isn't going to morph overnight), but it would be a step in the right direction, I agree. I was simply helping explain that some of the (percieved) anti-feminist backlash came from, to an extent, miscommunucation. You can even see some of it coming from (Some of) the pro-feminist posts in this thread: Not arguing (as you did) that yes, it is a problem, and pushing hard for equality will fix it*for everyone*, but arguing that it's not an issue or dudes should just leave or really, what are they complaining about? Which in turn can give those who have experienced such abuse (or know people who have), an almost *reflexive* dislike of the speaker's goals, since,w ell, they're belittling a harrow, traumatic, and quite frankly farked up scenario they had to live through.

So I think we're in agreement here.


Theaetetus: Who is less likely to sabotage birth control or try to trap a man into marriage?


I would argue this has more to do with crazy and less to do with feminism.
 
2013-01-31 12:32:40 PM

boinkingbill: Women initiate half of all domestic violence unfortunately, most juristictions in the US don't take women beating men as serious as men beating women.  The best way to handle domestic violence is to arrest both of them and bring them in front of a judge to find out what their problem is.  No one is innocent in a domestic violence incident.


I beg to differ. I'd like to know where you get your statistics. Most men beat women because they can.
Unless by initiate you mean "folded the laundry wrong."  I mean I could be wrong, but I only speak from experience.

A spouse beater is a spouse beater be it man or woman. I'll agree there is a double standard when it comes to the legal system of course.
 
2013-01-31 12:33:30 PM

Theaetetus: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Way to miss the point, you two.

Way to be overly defensive about a tongue-in-cheek response pointing out an error.

... you can't deny the fact that in GTA, the activity of mistreating prostitutes exists in the game and that it is played for entertainment value, not as a church moral lesson about how it is horrible and will send you straight to hell. That was the point.

But, the activity of mistreating prostitutes itself is not presented for entertainment value. It exists within a game presented for entertainment value, but that doesn't mean that every action within it is somehow glorified. You can eat fast food, listen to the radio, reload a gun, or drown. Are those glorified, merely because they exist within the game? Context matters.

Looks like I shouldn't have used video games as an example. That's the one sacred cow that Farkers will reflexively be over-defensive about even more than iPhone apps about male-bashing.

Or, it could be because you're making an asinine out-of-context argument based on a falsehood, and you could make the same exact argument without jumping on a bandwagon of misinformation. For example, consider the Battle Raper game. Or Lara Croft's ever-expanding breasts with each new version, or the rape attempt scene in the latest incarnation. Or the fact that the same item of armor is presented different on male and female toons in WoW or other MMORPGs. Or this:
[www.vgcats.com image 692x525]


Actually her breast size fluctuated and is currently on the decrease. Here's an old writeup about how some people are reacting. I think it's fascinating how games are changing to attract the steadily growing female market.
 
2013-01-31 12:34:18 PM

Vegetative reproduction: yves0010: Vegetative reproduction: Have you ever wrestled a girlfriend?

Yes and she won a few times with and without cheating.

Vegetative reproduction: Have you ever been hit by a woman?

Yes and in certain places, it will make a man cry. Ever get nailed in the balls? It will leave you on the floor for a few minutes and hurt for a while after that.

Is your girlfriend almost the same weight a you?  I have wrestled many different sized people (male and female) in college judo.  Although smaller, more experienced people could submit me when I first started, after a couple of months, I had no problem dominating people >20lbs lighter than me.  Likewise, when wrestling the really huge 240+lb guys, I was never been able to submit them.  Since men are generally taller, weigh more, and have  higher testosterone than women, most women are no match for most men physically.

I have been kicked, kneed, and elbowed in the nuts.  It hurts, but unless you get hit just right, it can be shrugged off.  Testicles are surprisingly resilient.  The elasticity of your sac usually prevents significant testicular injury.


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2013-01-31 12:35:57 PM
My view of this app is that I have the right to strongly disapprove, and that's about it.

Everyone will feel strongly against some form of expression. Now if the app is specifically ADVOCATING criminal abuse, then I think we all have not only the right but the duty to request its removal.

But in this specific case, anyone who claims that the app influences their decision to abuse a boyfriend, they were gonna do it regardless of the app, and so are full of crap.
 
2013-01-31 12:39:34 PM

MikeBoomshadow: My view of this app is that I have the right to strongly disapprove, and that's about it.

Everyone will feel strongly against some form of expression. Now if the app is specifically ADVOCATING criminal abuse, then I think we all have not only the right but the duty to request its removal.

But in this specific case, anyone who claims that the app influences their decision to abuse a boyfriend, they were gonna do it regardless of the app, and so are full of crap.


I think most people are saying "It is farked up that there is an app that makes light of such a thing. A similar app targeting women would never have been approved."
 
2013-01-31 12:48:31 PM

GriffXX: Actually her breast size fluctuated and is currently on the decrease. Here's an old writeup about how some people are reacting. I think it's fascinating how games are changing to attract the steadily growing female market.


Fair enough. How about Ivy's shrinking costume and expanding bust?
thesocietypages.org
 
2013-01-31 12:49:02 PM

Vegetative reproduction: yves0010: Vegetative reproduction: Have you ever wrestled a girlfriend?

Yes and she won a few times with and without cheating.

Vegetative reproduction: Have you ever been hit by a woman?

Yes and in certain places, it will make a man cry. Ever get nailed in the balls? It will leave you on the floor for a few minutes and hurt for a while after that.

Is your girlfriend almost the same weight a you?  I have wrestled many different sized people (male and female) in college judo.  Although smaller, more experienced people could submit me when I first started, after a couple of months, I had no problem dominating people >20lbs lighter than me.  Likewise, when wrestling the really huge 240+lb guys, I was never been able to submit them.  Since men are generally taller, weigh more, and have  higher testosterone than women, most women are no match for most men physically.

I have been kicked, kneed, and elbowed in the nuts.  It hurts, but unless you get hit just right, it can be shrugged off.  Testicles are surprisingly resilient.  The elasticity of your sac usually prevents significant testicular injury.


Usually when she wins, she gets the jump on me and I am pretty much am on the defensive. But at the same time, not trying to hurt her as she does to me. Then again, she cheats a lot more times then any and hits me in certain places. Or just use her female side and get an auto win (if you know what I mean).

And same here and yes, I shrugged most off but she can hit me perfect and KO me for a few minutes and give me a long lasting pain too.
 
2013-01-31 12:49:48 PM

I sound fat: g4lt: I sound fat: g4lt: super_grass: This isn't real violence, and volume against men by women isn't a real issue.

Get over you victim complexes.

Annnd we're back to the Stone age.  Throw in the towel, civilization, it's over.

I'm going to try to say this without being condescending or insensitive.  It will be hard.

Tip:  If your woman is abusing you, LEAVE.  You don't have to fight back (lord god, dont do that, you will go to jail) or care if she loves you back or not.  You are a MAN, you most likely have the ability to get a minimum wage job and a studio apartment.   If not, sleeping behind the dumpster is a whole lot easier on men then women, and preferable to being afraid of your girl.   I dont get this at ALL.

I'm going to try to say this without saying you're a damn fool, it won't work.  I meant what I said about civilization failing, civilization is the distinct part of humanity that makes it so that we can determine if someone is suffering harm and alleviate it.  This is the part that is failing.  Blaming the victim DOESN'T WORK, get that through your pointy little head.  If someone is committing criminal acts, they shouldn't be the one to stay put while their victim has to quit the field, that is UNCIVILIZED, get it yet?

Listen, im going to try and say... screw it, no im not.  learn to read jackhat...

Im not blaming the victim, im telling the "victim" to remove himself from the situation.  If you cant see that is the rational thing to do, there is ZERO hope for you, fair or not.


It's a matter of verb tense that some people just can't seem to grasp.

Blame:  "If you had  left after the first beating, it wouldn't have  happened again."

Help:  "Leave before it happens again."

Blame's focus is on the past.  Help's focus is on the present and future.
 
2013-01-31 12:53:04 PM

fireclown: LordJiro: Yep, only Men are the abusers! A woman is too weak to really threaten a man.

Crazy biatch once tried to brain me with a claw hammer.  I'm annoyed by the disparity in how domestic violence against men is treated.

/yes, yes, CSB, I know.


Did it work?
 
2013-01-31 01:03:09 PM

Nemo's Brother: Theaetetus: ciberido: VonEvilstein: Nemo's Brother: jaylectricity: You used to be able to sell your daughter for a couple of goats. Karma is a biatch.

This is how of liberals actually think v

As a liberal, I actually think you are full of shiat.

This is like the 5th thread where  Nemo's Brother has played the "This is what liberals actually believe " card, and he's been more full of crap each thread.  At this rate, in about 3 more threads he'll be claiming that liberals killed off the dinosaurs.

Well, you don't see any dinosaurs in those liberal bastions of Massachusetts, New York, or California, do you?

Yet I was commenting on a liberal voicing that opinion early on in the thread.  You guys have obviously never stepped foot in a university.


We're dealing with a talented troll here folks 9/10
 
2013-01-31 01:06:30 PM

RobSeace: g4lt: It's only rational when there's no civilization to remove the abuser from the situation. That is the entire point of a law enforcement apparatus, to get the person doing the unethical harm out of the situation and let the victim get on with their life.

Yes, but that requires cooperation from the victim, in actually calling the cops, and then going through with pressing charges and testifying and all that... Many times, for whatever reason, they choose not to cooperate... In the case of guys hit by women, I think many of them don't want to admit to being abused for fear of being labeled weakling pussies... In the case of women hit by men, I think it's more often that they have a sort of Stockholm syndrome and blame themselves for the abuse rather than the abuser... But, in any case, if the victim won't cooperate with law enforcement, I'm not sure how you expect "civilization" to just swoop in and magically save the day (all while probably being cursed by the victim for their interference)...


The same way civilization steps into a case of homicide even though the victim won't cooperate.
 
2013-01-31 01:07:23 PM

Felgraf: MikeBoomshadow: My view of this app is that I have the right to strongly disapprove, and that's about it.

Everyone will feel strongly against some form of expression. Now if the app is specifically ADVOCATING criminal abuse, then I think we all have not only the right but the duty to request its removal.

But in this specific case, anyone who claims that the app influences their decision to abuse a boyfriend, they were gonna do it regardless of the app, and so are full of crap.

I think most people are saying "It is farked up that there is an app that makes light of such a thing. A similar app targeting women would never have been approved."


And they're right, of course. The idea itself is farked up. But while right or wrong, the double standard does exist, I don't see the game expressing actual approval of that standard.

I would like to find a way to do an entertaining, funny game that actually does argue against abuse. Or other things we as a people should reasonably find abhorrent.

Until then, we get shiat like this. But since it doesn't seem to specifically advocate committing abuse (I could be wrong; I haven't played it), I would argue that censoring it would be a cure worse than the illness.

After all, abuse will never go away if all we do is talk about it, but I we don't do that, it's only gonna get worse.
 
2013-01-31 01:09:51 PM
This app represents more double-standards from the feminist-dominated media/culture. It's amazing how humans are incapable of reacting to a perceived double standard by simply removing that double-standard. Tthey must always somehow swing the pendulum too far. Feminists had specific complaints, many of which were quite valid, all of which were thoroughly dealt with 20 years ago. Since then they've just decided to become a hate group to justify their existence.

If you don't believe me...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto
 
2013-01-31 01:09:58 PM
ITT Misogynists, apologists and the ignorant.
 
2013-01-31 01:17:00 PM

TheOriginalEd: ITT Misogynists, apologists and the ignorant.


Which are you?
 
2013-01-31 01:20:41 PM

Big Man On Campus: This app represents more double-standards from the feminist-dominated media/culture. It's amazing how humans are incapable of reacting to a perceived double standard by simply removing that double-standard. Tthey must always somehow swing the pendulum too far. Feminists had specific complaints, many of which were quite valid, all of which were thoroughly dealt with 20 years ago. Since then they've just decided to become a hate group to justify their existence.

If you don't believe me...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto


This post represents more double-standards from the adult-dominated media/culture. It's amazing how humans are incapable of reacting to a perceived double standard by simply removing that double-standard. Tthey must always somehow swing the pendulum too far. Adults had specific complaints, many of which were quite valid, all of which were thoroughly dealt with 20 years ago. Since then they've just decided to become a hate group to justify their existence.

If you don't believe me...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal
 
2013-01-31 01:22:22 PM

Felgraf: Theaetetus: I wouldn't bother with him. He basically admitted he just does this to troll in another thread.

I'm just frustrated because I (pseudo) defended him in a thread a few months back, more because I believed he was just being ineloquent (And was able to, it seems, help at least a few people understand where some of the frustration comes from in feminism threads from the male perspective. That is, why some people jump into such threads venting frustrations that they're ignored or treated unfairly, since the topics don't occur in a vacuum. And one can make the case that issues for men can be *perceived* as being dismissed outright, rather than simply being treated as lower priority, and that is where some frustration can build from, etc etc...).

And I'm pissed that I wasted good will on trying to help someone who was just farking around and being a dick. I suppose the fact that such pseudo-defense lead to a (small bit) of useful conversation should temper that frustration, though...

Quinsisdos: It's like some people are blind to the vile bigotry some people love flying under the guise of 'feminism'.

Perhaps I should rephrase it as "all feminine." Yeah, there are some horrible people and misandrists in the movement, from what I understand. There's horrible folks everywhere.

Also, in a previous thread, he had simply claimed to seek understanding discussion (and was not falling on the 'rabid misandrist' area of the spectrum), sooooo... yeah, he's being a dick here.


Felgraf, I sincerely appreciated what you did for me in that other thread; I was, and am, absolutely sincere, and am attempting to accomplish more than just "being a dick". I'm sorry to have disappointed you; I tend to act without much thought sometimes when an idea pops into my head, and sometimes (most times), I'm not nearly as clever as I think I am (that I freely admit).
 
2013-01-31 01:24:44 PM

Flakeloaf: ajt167: I was under the impression that violent video games don't influence people and lead them to believe violence is okay. What am I missing?

Came here to say this. You can't argue that something is harmless and howl about how it threatens a group that includes you in the same breath.

Violence against men is a real thing that really exists and it is a problem. This problem is in no way related to pretend video game violence against an imaginary man any more than a "beat your wife" game creates or enhances actual violence against women. That said, subby is absolutely right that a Chris Brown simulator would bring out the torch and pitchfork brigade before it was even done compiling.


Video games may not cause violence IRL.  But an obsession with violent games is indicative of a taste for violence.  If  you agree, then violent video games  should NOT be restricted; they're a useful diagnostic and forensic tool.

Sex offenders should not be banned from social media, by the same logic.  Facebook makes them easier to monitor.  Given people's propensity to post shiat without consulting their inner censors, it may make treatment more effective.
 
2013-01-31 01:28:53 PM

Theaetetus: Felgraf: WhippingBoy: That's exactly what I'd expect a patriarchal oppressor to say. A vain attempt to remain in power, under the guise of "personal responsibility".

Man, do you really think feminists think this way? Damn,y ou're just as bad as the folks that were ragging on you in that other thread a few weeks back. So much for claiming you wanted to try and understand stuff and actually have a discussion. =/.

I wouldn't bother with him. He basically admitted he just does this to troll in another thread.


I admitted to no such thing. Regardless of your opinion of me, my intent in these types of threads is most definitely not to troll. I may be a misguided, bumbling, buffoon, but my intent is sincere.
 
2013-01-31 01:35:41 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Video games may not cause violence IRL.  But an obsession with violent games is indicative of a taste for violence.  If  you agree, then violent video games  should NOT be restricted; they're a useful diagnostic and forensic tool.


So, you're suggesting that we need some sort of registry of violent video game players? Maybe with some sort of system for notifying authorities of usage?

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2013-01-31 01:38:42 PM

onyxruby: In the state I live in there isn't a single domestic abuse shelter that allows men to stay. Their is a system wide state of denial that domestic abuse against men exists in this country.


True.  Sounds like a great business opportunity.  "Non-profit" business, of course. ;-)  The statistics and discrimination laws virtually compel government funding.  Even if tax dollars and donations are not forthcoming, you could always sell insurance to men who dig crazy.

"The American Male Card:  don't go home without it." :-)
 
2013-01-31 01:57:14 PM

MikeBoomshadow: Crazy biatch once tried to brain me with a claw hammer. I'm annoyed by the disparity in how domestic violence against men is treated.

/yes, yes, CSB, I know.

Did it work?


No.  I fled like crazy.  In the very short time that I had to figure out a plan, I couldn't think of anything else to do that wouldn't risk my going to jail.  The whole thing was probably the weirdest 10 minutes of my life.
 
2013-01-31 02:00:33 PM

Egoy3k: Treygreen13: I'm a big fan of GTA and I don't think it's fair to say that the game doesn't glorify killing hookers. It glorifies killing pretty much anyone, including hookers.

That's fair to say, but the implication of that logic is that if they were to make hookers invulnerable in GTV V that it would be sexist.


They should really just arm them all: you try to shoot or run-over a hooker, she whips out one of the more powerful guns and fills your ass full of lead! You still might be able to take one out, but at least it would be a more fair fight... And, if you try to kill a few of them, they should make all the others refuse to do business with you after that, and in fact will start to shoot at you on sight, just like some of the rival gang members do when you piss them off...
 
2013-01-31 02:03:13 PM

RobSeace: Egoy3k: Treygreen13: I'm a big fan of GTA and I don't think it's fair to say that the game doesn't glorify killing hookers. It glorifies killing pretty much anyone, including hookers.

That's fair to say, but the implication of that logic is that if they were to make hookers invulnerable in GTV V that it would be sexist.

They should really just arm them all: you try to shoot or run-over a hooker, she whips out one of the more powerful guns and fills your ass full of lead! You still might be able to take one out, but at least it would be a more fair fight... And, if you try to kill a few of them, they should make all the others refuse to do business with you after that, and in fact will start to shoot at you on sight, just like some of the rival gang members do when you piss them off...


They could call it the "Aileen Wuornos hack"
 
2013-01-31 02:03:27 PM

Theaetetus: GriffXX: Actually her breast size fluctuated and is currently on the decrease. Here's an old writeup about how some people are reacting. I think it's fascinating how games are changing to attract the steadily growing female market.

Fair enough. How about Ivy's shrinking costume and expanding bust?
[thesocietypages.org image 494x683]


Suddenly, cleavage reboot.
www.toptiertactics.com
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