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2013-01-31 07:56:53 AM
jaylectricity:  Karma is a biatch.

I don't recall the Gandhi "eye for an eye" quote going quite like that.
 
2013-01-31 08:00:48 AM

nulluspixiusdemonica: Who cares? Seriously. What sort of raging psychotic gets their underwear all twisted out of shape over something so puerile?


The kind of person who get's upset over something like this is the kind of person who has been a victim of domestic abuse. When you make light of female on male domestic abuse it encourages it in society and enforces stereotypes that continue trends like under-reporting of female to male domestic abuse. It's like asking why people would get their underwear twisted up about burning crosses.

Slaxl: I don't see the problem. It's a game, it's not real, and it certainly isn't encouraging violence against men. Yes, if it was the other way around lots of people would be even more outraged because violence against women is a big problem


Violence against men is a big problem and it remains vastly under-reported. In this case the game explicitly encourages abuse against the man in the relationship. You know damn well Apple never would have approved this app if the roles were reversed.

I sound fat: If you arent man enough to protect yourself from your woman, perhaps you NEED to have an aggressive, strong woman as your mate.


My ex-wife liked to get physically abusive as she had a bad temper. I used to be a professional bouncer and could have easily "won", but I never once attempted to defend myself. Do you know what happens in the real world when the man defends himself against his wife attacking him? He goes to jail, she gets an OFP, the kids, the house and you lose a lot of your rights for the rest of your life. Protecting yourself inside your own home is nothing at all like protecting yourself when walking down the street.

I was afraid to walk away after hearing horror story upon horror story about how sexist the family court is and how hard it is for a man to get custody of kids in the real world. The result is that a /lot/ of men stay in abusive relationships because they are afraid of losing their kids to the divorce courts. By staying with her as long as I did I protected the kids from her wraith by and took most of her of her abuse instead of them taking it. As far as I am concerned my manhood is very much still intact.
 
2013-01-31 08:02:25 AM

jaylectricity: You used to be able to sell your daughter for a couple of goats. Karma is a biatch.


Only if she's hot.  As a general rule, daughters aren't particularly useful.  Maybe one or two, after you've had several sons to carry on your name.  But that's mainly so one can take over the cooking and cleaning duties after your current wife dies in childbirth.  Even that, however, is only temporary until you can get a replacement wife.
 
2013-01-31 08:03:55 AM

roblarky: Slaxl: An eye for an eye leaves the world blind

Hans: An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. 
Billy: No, it doesn't. There'll be one guy left with one eye. How's the last blind guy gonna take out the eye of the last guy left?  All that guy has to do is run away and hide behind a bush. Ghandi was wrong. It's just that nobody's got the balls to come out and say it.


Actually, 'an eye for an eye' just leaves the criminals and the victims blind. The rest of us are just fine, thanks.
 
2013-01-31 08:04:08 AM

OtherLittleGuy: There's a trope for that (Link goes to cybercrackhouse)


Well, fark. There goes the afternoon.
 
2013-01-31 08:04:25 AM
Rather unshockingly the rate of abuse in relationships is about the same rather the couple is straight or gay and the rate in straight couples of female on male violence is the same as male on female violence . The difference is that when you get female on male violence the number of hospital visits is much lower on average than when male on female violence gets going. Frequencies are the same, outcomes are very different.
 
2013-01-31 08:05:59 AM
Link
Well, it is. Always has been.
 
2013-01-31 08:08:52 AM

I sound fat: Tip: If your woman is abusing you, LEAVE. You don't have to fight back (lord god, dont do that, you will go to jail) or care if she loves you back or not. You are a MAN, you most likely have the ability to get a minimum wage job and a studio apartment. If not, sleeping behind the dumpster is a whole lot easier on men then women, and preferable to being afraid of your girl. I dont get this at ALL.


And yet pretty much the same can be said of women, for the most part. Hell, women at least have specialized shelters set up to protect them IN JUST THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. Sleeping behind a dumpster isn't even as much of a worry for them, because it's less likely!

I sound fat:

Im not blaming the victim, im telling the "victim" to remove himself from the situation.  If you cant see that is the rational thing to do, there is ZERO hope for you, fair or not.

ARe you willing to explain this same logic to women in abusive relationships? If the "victim" doesn't remove herself, that's baffling, and, well, there's zero hope for her so we shouldn't really care?
 
2013-01-31 08:11:08 AM

onyxruby: I was afraid to walk away after hearing horror story upon horror story about how sexist the family court is and how hard it is for a man to get custody of kids in the real world. The result is that a /lot/ of men stay in abusive relationships because they are afraid of losing their kids to the divorce courts. By staying with her as long as I did I protected the kids from her wraith by and took most of her of her abuse instead of them taking it. As far as I am concerned my manhood is very much still intact.


Exactly this, and it is a common story.
 
2013-01-31 08:17:56 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: abhorrent1: I need to come up with an idea for a Rape app. That would be okay, right?

No. You see, Apple has a way of shutting that whole thing down.


Didn't you just run for the Senate as a Republican?
 
2013-01-31 08:19:22 AM
Some people laugh when I say there's a war on men.  But when additives to foods and hygiene products f*ck with a person's testosterone (read up on what parabens do), and hearing stories like this,  you kind of have to wonder how true it is.

Oh.  And if you're suffering from depression, can't concentrate, have no get-up-and-go, etc, the doctor will prescribe Zoloft, Adderall, and a bunch of other drugs; but if you find your T is very low (but still in the "normal" range, which is a pretty wide range), farked if the doctor won't prescribe something for that.
 
2013-01-31 08:21:25 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: abhorrent1: I need to come up with an idea for a Rape app. That would be okay, right?

No. You see, Apple has a way of shutting that whole thing down.


Only if they truly didn't want the ap
 
2013-01-31 08:22:00 AM

I sound fat: g4lt: super_grass: This isn't real violence, and volume against men by women isn't a real issue.

Get over you victim complexes.

Annnd we're back to the Stone age.  Throw in the towel, civilization, it's over.

I'm going to try to say this without being condescending or insensitive.  It will be hard.

Tip:  If your woman is abusing you, LEAVE.  You don't have to fight back (lord god, dont do that, you will go to jail) or care if she loves you back or not.  You are a MAN, you most likely have the ability to get a minimum wage job and a studio apartment.   If not, sleeping behind the dumpster is a whole lot easier on men then women, and preferable to being afraid of your girl.   I dont get this at ALL.


Yeah, that doesn't really work when there's kids involved.
 
2013-01-31 08:25:50 AM

jaylectricity: You used to be able to sell your daughter for a couple of goats. Karma is a biatch.


exactly! it's perfectly ok to harass by depiction of violence and degradation people who live decades or centuries and hundreds if not thousands of miles away from events which are contemptible and in which they obviously never participated and very likely would condemn, simply on the basis of the accident of gender. guys should just "man up" (amitirite?) and take it.
 
2013-01-31 08:26:32 AM

ajt167: I was under the impression that violent video games don't influence people and lead them to believe violence is okay. What am I missing?


Came here to say this. You can't argue that something is harmless and howl about how it threatens a group that includes you in the same breath.

Violence against men is a real thing that really exists and it is a problem. This problem is in no way related to pretend video game violence against an imaginary man any more than a "beat your wife" game creates or enhances actual violence against women. That said, subby is absolutely right that a Chris Brown simulator would bring out the torch and pitchfork brigade before it was even done compiling.
 
2013-01-31 08:29:20 AM

Nemo's Brother: jaylectricity: You used to be able to sell your daughter for a couple of goats. Karma is a biatch.

This is how of liberals actually think v


This is how conservatives actually talk.
 
2013-01-31 08:31:00 AM

onyxruby: Violence against men is a big problem and it remains vastly under-reported.


100% correct. i was in a relationship in which i was battered and raped (never mind the emotional/verbal abuse) and i thought of reporting it, but it would be a he said - she said situation, and one guy who had gone to a rape crises center was, literally, laughed at.
 
2013-01-31 08:35:26 AM

Flakeloaf: ajt167: I was under the impression that violent video games don't influence people and lead them to believe violence is okay. What am I missing?

Came here to say this. You can't argue that something is harmless and howl about how it threatens a group that includes you in the same breath.

Violence against men is a real thing that really exists and it is a problem. This problem is in no way related to pretend video game violence against an imaginary man any more than a "beat your wife" game creates or enhances actual violence against women. That said, subby is absolutely right that a Chris Brown simulator would bring out the torch and pitchfork brigade before it was even done compiling.


The issue here is the double standard. If this were a "Smack your biatch up" game, there would be an outcry. Either both are acceptable, or neither is.
 
2013-01-31 08:35:36 AM
Oh, America. If it weren't for double standards, we'd have no standards at all.
 
2013-01-31 08:35:51 AM

xanadian: Some people laugh when I say there's a war on men.  But when additives to foods and hygiene products f*ck with a person's testosterone (read up on what parabens do), and hearing stories like this,  you kind of have to wonder how true it is.

Oh.  And if you're suffering from depression, can't concentrate, have no get-up-and-go, etc, the doctor will prescribe Zoloft, Adderall, and a bunch of other drugs; but if you find your T is very low (but still in the "normal" range, which is a pretty wide range), farked if the doctor won't prescribe something for that.


T in this case meaning the tinfoil content of your hat.
 
2013-01-31 08:36:41 AM

Voxper: My girlfriend of 10 years ago would occasionally hit me.

Afterwards, a number of avowed feminists told me flat-out that it didn't matter.

So much for the all-knowing power of Holy Feminist Theory in matters of flesh and blood.


Feminists don't condone relationship violence. I don't know what you'd call the people you talked to, but "avowed feminist" isn't it.

CSB time. I am at a university, and occasionally students are hired to work at a lab where heavy machinery is used. After complaining to one of the professors about the clear bias towards hiring males for the heavy machinery jobs and ignoring women's applications, I was told "They used to hire women, but they didn't work out. They tried, that's not good enough?" He found it perfectly acceptable that an entire class of people had been dismissed out of hand for what were either a few bad eggs or poor hiring decisions. Substitute "black", "Turkish", or any other minority and I'm sure he would find that appalling, but "women." Yeah, they just didn't work out. Nevermind that I'm actually certified to drive a forklift and I restore old cars for fun, I clearly don't deserve to be judged on my own merits.

Wash, rinse and repeat the above for your entire life and you get "avowed feminists" who think it's okay to abuse men.

In the immortal words of Chris Rock: I'm not saying it's right, just that I understand.
 
2013-01-31 08:38:10 AM

LordJiro: Yep, only Men are the abusers! A woman is too weak to really threaten a man.


Crazy biatch once tried to brain me with a claw hammer.  I'm annoyed by the disparity in how domestic violence against men is treated.

/yes, yes, CSB, I know.
 
2013-01-31 08:40:14 AM

jaylectricity: You used to be able to sell your daughter for a couple of goats. Karma is a biatch.


...have you paid your slavery reparations yet?
 
2013-01-31 08:40:19 AM
Sounds like the femmys want all the reward and none of the responsibility that "true equality" demands. You want to be treated as equals among men, you have to play by the same set of rules.
 
2013-01-31 08:40:33 AM

mentula: 100% correct. i was in a relationship in which i was battered and raped (never mind the emotional/verbal abuse) and i thought of reporting it, but it would be a he said - she said situation, and one guy who had gone to a rape crises center was, literally, laughed at.


A gay male friend of mine was raped. The police laughed at him and all of the rape and crisis lines were literally only set up to support women. He received absolutely no support of any kind whatsoever, even though there was no doubt that he had been raped.

In the state I live in there isn't a single domestic abuse shelter that allows men to stay. Their is a system wide state of denial that domestic abuse against men exists in this country.
 
2013-01-31 08:40:54 AM

MsIndy: In the immortal words of Chris Rock: I'm not saying it's right, just that I understand.


Brilliant usage.
 
2013-01-31 08:46:56 AM

Deacon Blue: L.D. Ablo: My ex-fiancee would get ragingly drunk.  One time she got into a fistfight with the neighbor, smashed a window and got arrested.  On the Night of the Flying Plates, she started throwing them at my head.  Fortunately, she was too drunk to have good aim.

Nice to see an app that encourages this sort of thing.

/happily single today
//lives with cats

I still hate you.  Can't remember why, you must have done something though.  However, the fact that you're a cat person makes me hate you less than I did before  Don't get me wrong, I still hate you, but if you're a cat dude you can't be all bad.

/do you have any idea why I hate you.  There just has to be a reason.


Hate is for people who don't take their Fark handles from Steely Dan songs.
 
2013-01-31 08:46:56 AM

nulluspixiusdemonica: Who cares? Seriously. What sort of raging psychotic gets their underwear all twisted out of shape over something so puerile?

If you're not adult enough to laugh this off you should be drugged up to the gills and institutionalised because the real world is apparently an alien planet...

I would rate the Shades of Gray, Harry Potter and Twilight fandoms as far more deserving of public derision and scorn than this rubbish....


What did Harry Potter ever do to you? Use this doll and show me where he's touched you.
 
2013-01-31 08:48:18 AM

VonEvilstein: Flakeloaf: ajt167: I was under the impression that violent video games don't influence people and lead them to believe violence is okay. What am I missing?

Came here to say this. You can't argue that something is harmless and howl about how it threatens a group that includes you in the same breath.

Violence against men is a real thing that really exists and it is a problem. This problem is in no way related to pretend video game violence against an imaginary man any more than a "beat your wife" game creates or enhances actual violence against women. That said, subby is absolutely right that a Chris Brown simulator would bring out the torch and pitchfork brigade before it was even done compiling.

The issue here is the double standard. If this were a "Smack your biatch up" game, there would be an outcry. Either both are acceptable, or neither is.


Neither is, of course. The violence against women movement just has more momentum. Kinda like how the Bnai Brith is the first to scream when a guy gets his yarmulke knocked off in the subway, but someone walking around kicking Ukranian Orthodox Christians in the ankles might get a two-line finger wag from the local ACLU chapter in the "Missed Connections" section of the community ad-rag.
 
2013-01-31 08:50:14 AM

super_grass: This isn't real violence, and volume against men by women isn't a real issue.

Get over you victim complexes.


I have never wanted to punch someone through the Internet until today.  Here we are.
 
2013-01-31 08:52:34 AM
'Make me a sammich, biatch' app
 
2013-01-31 08:52:37 AM

Flakeloaf: VonEvilstein: Flakeloaf: ajt167: I was under the impression that violent video games don't influence people and lead them to believe violence is okay. What am I missing?

Came here to say this. You can't argue that something is harmless and howl about how it threatens a group that includes you in the same breath.

Violence against men is a real thing that really exists and it is a problem. This problem is in no way related to pretend video game violence against an imaginary man any more than a "beat your wife" game creates or enhances actual violence against women. That said, subby is absolutely right that a Chris Brown simulator would bring out the torch and pitchfork brigade before it was even done compiling.

The issue here is the double standard. If this were a "Smack your biatch up" game, there would be an outcry. Either both are acceptable, or neither is.

Neither is, of course. The violence against women movement just has more momentum. Kinda like how the Bnai Brith is the first to scream when a guy gets his yarmulke knocked off in the subway, but someone walking around kicking Ukranian Orthodox Christians in the ankles might get a two-line finger wag from the local ACLU chapter in the "Missed Connections" section of the community ad-rag.


Exactly. I apologise, actually, as you were probably not the best person to quote to make this point.
 
2013-01-31 08:53:05 AM

MsIndy: CSB time. I am at a university, and occasionally students are hired to work at a lab where heavy machinery is used. After complaining to one of the professors about the clear bias towards hiring males for the heavy machinery jobs and ignoring women's applications, I was told "They used to hire women, but they didn't work out. They tried, that's not good enough?" He found it perfectly acceptable that an entire class of people had been dismissed out of hand for what were either a few bad eggs or poor hiring decisions. Substitute "black", "Turkish", or any other minority and I'm sure he would find that appalling, but "women." Yeah, they just didn't work out. Nevermind that I'm actually certified to drive a forklift and I restore old cars for fun, I clearly don't deserve to be judged on my own merits.


It would be just fine if Black or Turkish people had a known history of being shiatty at operating heavy machinery and had caused a disproportionate number of accidents and or near misses. Since the are no real differences between races (race isn't even a real thing) and we happen to be a species with a fair degree of sexual dimorphism I would say that judging a person based on their sex is much more correct than judging someone based on their 'race'.
 
2013-01-31 08:53:13 AM

onyxruby: Slaxl: I don't see the problem. It's a game, it's not real, and it certainly isn't encouraging violence against men. Yes, if it was the other way around lots of people would be even more outraged because violence against women is a big problem

Violence against men is a big problem and it remains vastly under-reported. In this case the game explicitly encourages abuse against the man in the relationship. You know damn well Apple never would have approved this app if the roles were reversed.


That's right they wouldn't have approved it, but my main point was that it doesn't promote violence in one way or the other, so let this app go, watch the violence rates remain the same, then we can talk about other causes, because it sure as hell isn't a game.
 
2013-01-31 08:53:39 AM

Voxper: kingoomieiii : Rigid gender roles hurt everyone.

And since rigid gender roles are, according to feminist theory, actually all men's fault... abused men who are laughed at are merely being hoisted by their own sexist petards!*

*I have ACTUALLY seen this argument made on feminist web-sites.


As we live in a patriarchal society, I fail to see the obvious flaw in this (crude) statement.
 
2013-01-31 08:55:02 AM

xxdangerbobxx: As we live in a patriarchal society, I fail to see the obvious flaw in this (crude) statement.


Actually, by law, we do not.
 
2013-01-31 08:56:40 AM

onyxruby: I was afraid to walk away after hearing horror story upon horror story about how sexist the family court is and how hard it is for a man to get custody of kids in the real world. The result is that a /lot/ of men stay in abusive relationships because they are afraid of losing their kids to the divorce courts. By staying with her as long as I did I protected the kids from her wraith by and took most of her of her abuse instead of them taking it. As far as I am concerned my manhood is very much still intact.


There was a guy who worked for me for a short time who was in an abusive relationship.  I asked him to work late one night on a drop-in project for a customer and he allowed as how he would be beaten when he got home if he did.  He wondered if he could come in a few hours early the next morning instead.  After talking to him for a bit, he admitted that he was in an abusive relationship, that she hit him frequently because of an out-of-control temper (I daresay she was bipolar).  I asked him why he stayed and he allowed as how he thought of himself as a lightening rod between her and their two daughters.  He had tried the marriage counseling and other avenues but she could put on a great show for others so nothing changed and he was pretty sure it wouldn't.

Then one morning he came in with a black eye.  I invited him into my office and asked him about it.  His wife had always been careful not to leave a mark. He broke down and told me that his oldest daughter, then about 14, had thrown a temper tantrum because he didn't want her to start dating.  She hit him and his wife only encouraged her and said he deserved it.  A week later he wrapped a company car around an overpass support at about 75 mph.  Clear, dry conditions and no skid marks.

Definitely not a cool story, bro.
 
2013-01-31 08:57:44 AM

untaken_name: xxdangerbobxx: As we live in a patriarchal society, I fail to see the obvious flaw in this (crude) statement.

Actually, by law, we do not.


Oh, well, if the law says it, it must be true.
 
2013-01-31 09:00:16 AM
Egoy3k: Hoo boy, did you just step in it.

There are NO differences between women and men. Except in the ways that women are better than men.

Didn't you take Gender Ed in college?
 
2013-01-31 09:06:38 AM
xxdangerbobxx: Because it's victim blaming. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to say to you.
 
2013-01-31 09:07:23 AM

RobSeace: While this stupid game is apparently "rated for players aged 4 and up", according to the article... I don't think a 4 year old playing GTA is a great idea, either...


I don't think a 4-year-old would understand any malicious nuances of a beat-up-the-boyfriend game in the first place.  They'd probably have a lot of fun beating up their own faces, or something.  And if that would corrupt their innocent little minds, we might as well give up because I don't see how society is anything but doomed.  Fortunately, I think that slippery slope is way off base.  Children have to be actively taught to hate.
 
2013-01-31 09:09:38 AM
Had an abusive wife so I'm getting a kick . . .
 
2013-01-31 09:11:10 AM
What you people fail to see is that abuse is an institutional thing. You can't be an "abuser" if you're in the oppressed minority (e.g. a women). It goes the other way. The majority oppressors (men) are the ones who are abusive to the oppressed minority, not the other way around.
 
2013-01-31 09:15:14 AM
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
 
2013-01-31 09:16:55 AM
Entirely unamused.

/unless it shows Rihanna beating up Chris Brown
 
2013-01-31 09:18:48 AM
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2013-01-31 09:25:47 AM

WhippingBoy: What you people fail to see is that abuse is an institutional thing. You can't be an "abuser" if you're in the oppressed minority (e.g. a women). It goes the other way. The majority oppressors (men) are the ones who are abusive to the oppressed minority, not the other way around.


Not sure if serious, but either way, this post explains exactly why "group guilt" and "shared responsibility" folks don't get taken seriously. People need to be held responsible for their own actions, and no one else's. To do otherwise is scapegoating: a fundamentally unjust act.
 
2013-01-31 09:27:25 AM

Voxper: xxdangerbobxx: Because it's victim blaming. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to say to you.


You might probably start by saying that meaningful debate or exploring statements given by others was never one of your strongest strengths.

The statement you were so quick to deride isn't false by any stretch of the imagination.  That by itself does not prove or disprove anything else, but it is very much a given. Your emphasis in the original statement shows your level of intellectual honesty and / or discourse.
 
2013-01-31 09:28:08 AM
As a guy who was assaulted by two girls on the school bus back in the early '90's, I not amused by this app.  It started out as they were playfully poking at me and led up to one trying to kick my head in while the other was swinging for the outfield.  The bus driver refused to do anything, so I took it to his supervisor.  All three of us were given suspension from the bus.  I fought it and took it to the vice-principal.  He upheld the suspension and told me to call my 'mommy'.  My parents and I took it to the principal who dropped my suspension and expelled both girls who by then had a long record of this kind of thing.  During this both girls tried the doey eye attempt to drop it.
 
2013-01-31 09:35:32 AM

Smock Pot: You guys, you're so sensitive. It's just a game. Sand in your vag much?

/what the gentlemen of fark would say if roles were reversed
//the butthurt, deal with it


It's not the app that's offensive, it's the double standard. If there was a app where you beat women I would say deal with it, but we all know it would never make it to the market like this one did.
 
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