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2013-01-30 07:55:24 PM
I was about to say this is stupid, but the fund she paid into also pays for the party that she's not allowed to go to.

Refund her fees in full and still let her go to the other events, problem solved. A very small slap on the wrist to a college who didn't plan properly.
 
2013-01-30 07:59:52 PM
they should send a prostitute to her house so they can have sex
 
2013-01-30 08:02:09 PM

Joe USer: I was about to say this is stupid, but the fund she paid into also pays for the party that she's not allowed to go to.

Refund her fees in full and still let her go to the other events, problem solved. A very small slap on the wrist to a college who didn't plan properly.


Yeah that's about as much as she should get.
 
2013-01-30 08:02:19 PM
files.myopera.com
 
2013-01-30 08:03:28 PM
prorated refund due
that is all
 
2013-01-30 08:03:47 PM
Her parents taught her well.
 
2013-01-30 08:05:34 PM

Joe USer: I was about to say this is stupid, but the fund she paid into also pays for the party that she's not allowed to go to.

Refund her fees in full and still let her go to the other events, problem solved. A very small slap on the wrist to a college who didn't plan properly.


According to the article, the event at the 21+ event would be funded by those that bought tickets to said event.  So no, her money doesn't go to it until she buys a ticket, buying a ticket for an event you aren't old enough to get into, would be stupid.


/Drinking age should be 18
//responsible drinking should be taught at home starting at 12 with drinks alongside meals.
 
2013-01-30 08:05:40 PM

Joe USer: I was about to say this is stupid, but the fund she paid into also pays for the party that she's not allowed to go to.

Refund her fees in full and still let her go to the other events, problem solved. A very small slap on the wrist to a college who didn't plan properly.


Should they also refund the fees to anyone who chooses not to drink there?
 
2013-01-30 08:05:44 PM
Add this to reasons my school embarrasses me.  Damnit, Tufts.   Not EVERYTHING has to offend someone.
 
2013-01-30 08:06:35 PM
20 year old college senior? She has obviously not cared about partying much before now.
 
2013-01-30 08:09:23 PM
I remember running into the same thing during my 4th freshman year.
 
2013-01-30 08:10:06 PM
She sounds like a virgin, and will still be one when she graduates.

/and fat
 
2013-01-30 08:10:09 PM
"This'll make a good application for Harvard Law!" I'm sure she's thinking.

Dumb. Just refund her the $30 she paid for student activities or whatever (only a fraction of which would go for covering this party anyway) and call it a day.

/graduating next year
//will be 20
///will not be filing a complaint
 
2013-01-30 08:10:20 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: 20 year old college senior? She has obviously not cared about partying much before now.


School age cutoff dates, how do they work.
 
2013-01-30 08:11:42 PM
Ugh... I was in a sorority and we always held parties at clubs and bars.

No one ever had a problem getting in, especially if you pre-paid for tickets to the event. This includes freshmen.
 
2013-01-30 08:12:09 PM

ongbok: HellRaisingHoosier: 20 year old college senior? She has obviously not cared about partying much before now.

School age cutoff datesrape kits, how do they work.

 
2013-01-30 08:12:26 PM
images.starpulse.com

possible picture of the little lady
 
2013-01-30 08:12:53 PM
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The important thing is that I made a difference
 
2013-01-30 08:13:07 PM
Atta girl, genius. Now when you're looking for work soon, when prospective employers google your name they will immediately toss your resumé in the trash becase you're a headcase.

Totally worth it, I am sure.
 
2013-01-30 08:18:35 PM
Trust her; she's Pre-Law.
 
2013-01-30 08:19:09 PM
How to win friends and influence people...

To quote Harvey Birdman "Now I know why the college chums don't call...."
 
2013-01-30 08:22:55 PM
Well, her option to just attend and drink with everyone else (because I'm willing to bet they weren't going to be carding at this private party, especially if she is only one of a handful of <21s) is totally blown. She screwed that up royally.

I say, let her attend (there is no law in MA prohibiting an <21 from entering a bar) and just make a *VERY* loud announcement to all in attendance, including the staff, that she is not of legal drinking age and therefore should not be served.

PROBLEM SOLVED.
 
2013-01-30 08:23:34 PM
Wow, she's going to be popular.

If someone had prevented me from drinking in college, I would, to this day, be exacting my unholy retribution.
 
2013-01-30 08:31:42 PM
Nope, I'm on her side. Whether or not admission is directly funded by her isn't an issue. She attends college for all the benefits and activities, and if an _official_ class event unreasonably excludes her, it's denying her a part of the college that she _did_ pay for.

Replace "business that only allows those 21 years old and above" with "business that only allows white people" or "men" or "non-handicapped" or "Christians" and see how well that goes over.
 
2013-01-30 08:32:07 PM

GAT_00: Joe USer: I was about to say this is stupid, but the fund she paid into also pays for the party that she's not allowed to go to.

Refund her fees in full and still let her go to the other events, problem solved. A very small slap on the wrist to a college who didn't plan properly.

Should they also refund the fees to anyone who chooses not to drink there?


Do student activities fees usually include alcohol?  Will there be an open bar at this party? No, no, and no to you, too.

Also, I don't believe the college bears any responsibility.  The Senior Class Council sounds like a student-run organization that simply collects its funding through the school.

She's assuming her student activities fees are paying for this party.  It's unclear if that's true, or if the tickets sold are paying for the use of the venue. Could be both.

Tough call; I can't decide whether she's hot or not:

activecitizen.tufts.edu
 
2013-01-30 08:33:25 PM

StopLurkListen: Nope, I'm on her side. Whether or not admission is directly funded by her isn't an issue. She attends college for all the benefits and activities, and if an _official_ class event unreasonably excludes her, it's denying her a part of the college that she _did_ pay for.

Replace "business that only allows those 21 years old and above" with "business that only allows white people" or "men" or "non-handicapped" or "Christians" and see how well that goes over.


You sound like a blast.
 
2013-01-30 08:34:15 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Trust her; she's Pre-Law.


You know who didn't do well in law school?  Pre-law tards.
 
2013-01-30 08:34:36 PM
I was 20 for a few weeks into my senior year.  Annoying as fark.
 
2013-01-30 08:35:03 PM

StopLurkListen: Nope, I'm on her side. Whether or not admission is directly funded by her isn't an issue. She attends college for all the benefits and activities, and if an _official_ class event unreasonably excludes her, it's denying her a part of the college that she _did_ pay for.

Replace "business that only allows those 21 years old and above" with "business that only allows white people" or "men" or "non-handicapped" or "Christians" and see how well that goes over.


So I guess the class fitness trip to "Curves" is cancelled...
 
2013-01-30 08:35:46 PM

Girion47: TheDumbBlonde: Trust her; she's Pre-Law.

You know who didn't do well in law school?  Pre-law tards.


Animal House, Otter.
 
2013-01-30 08:35:48 PM

StopLurkListen: Nope, I'm on her side. Whether or not admission is directly funded by her isn't an issue. She attends college for all the benefits and activities, and if an _official_ class event unreasonably excludes her, it's denying her a part of the college that she _did_ pay for.

Replace "business that only allows those 21 years old and above" with "business that only allows white people" or "men" or "non-handicapped" or "Christians" and see how well that goes over.


This isn't an event endorsed by a college, this is an event funded by the students that are participating.   So therefore not "official"
 
2013-01-30 08:36:11 PM

Girion47: Joe USer: I was about to say this is stupid, but the fund she paid into also pays for the party that she's not allowed to go to.

Refund her fees in full and still let her go to the other events, problem solved. A very small slap on the wrist to a college who didn't plan properly.

According to the article, the event at the 21+ event would be funded by those that bought tickets to said event.  So no, her money doesn't go to it until she buys a ticket, buying a ticket for an event you aren't old enough to get into, would be stupid.


/Drinking age should be 18
//responsible drinking should be taught at home starting at 12 with drinks alongside meals.


In fairness, it says mostly funded, and the organization that puts on the event is entirely funded by those fees and held to the school constitution, which specifically prohibits discrimination by age. This kid actually does have a valid case, even if it's spoiling the fun of others.
 
2013-01-30 08:36:15 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Do student activities fees usually include alcohol?


They have for my department's student group at times, usually when there is leftover.  Hell until this year full department meet and greets at the beginning of the year had booze, but school policy banned any alcohol from being served in student/teacher meetings, even when off-campus.

Of course, this is also grad students and up, so there is that.
 
2013-01-30 08:37:52 PM

jdamaral: "This'll make a good application for Harvard Law!" I'm sure she's thinking.

Dumb. Just refund her the $30 she paid for student activities or whatever (only a fraction of which would go for covering this party anyway) and call it a day.


Dude, the student court needs practice!  This is not going to a real court, thank goodness.

TFA's headline had me going for a moment:  "Tufts senior files age discrimination complaint" made me think it was an old employee petitioning the EEOC.  Nice one, editor!
 
2013-01-30 08:38:24 PM

StopLurkListen: Nope, I'm on her side. Whether or not admission is directly funded by her isn't an issue. She attends college for all the benefits and activities, and if an _official_ class event unreasonably excludes her, it's denying her a part of the college that she _did_ pay for.

Replace "business that only allows those 21 years old and above" with "business that only allows white people" or "men" or "non-handicapped" or "Christians" and see how well that goes over.


So, I suppose a bunch of Tri-Delts packing bourbon in their handbags, crashing the Muslim Men's Club at the Student Union would be cool.
 
2013-01-30 08:38:48 PM

StopLurkListen: Nope, I'm on her side. Whether or not admission is directly funded by her isn't an issue. She attends college for all the benefits and activities, and if an _official_ class event unreasonably excludes her, it's denying her a part of the college that she _did_ pay for.

Replace "business that only allows those 21 years old and above" with "business that only allows white people" or "men" or "non-handicapped" or "Christians" and see how well that goes over.


My college had a women's center and a daycare.  I wasn't allowed to use either of those.  Do I get my fees refunded?

What if I'm in my last semester?  Do I not have to pay tuition - because that tuition would send money towards classes I couldn't take because I didn't have the prereqs?

I guess they don't teach "sucking it up and not being a biatch 101" anymore.
 
2013-01-30 08:40:29 PM
As a veteran I was an older student when starting college and I didn't know there was such a thing as senior week.  This might be a silly question but, doesn't every student celebrate Senior Week, every week, regardless of age or what year they're currently in?
 
2013-01-30 08:40:48 PM

Girion47: StopLurkListen: Nope, I'm on her side. Whether or not admission is directly funded by her isn't an issue. She attends college for all the benefits and activities, and if an _official_ class event unreasonably excludes her, it's denying her a part of the college that she _did_ pay for.

Replace "business that only allows those 21 years old and above" with "business that only allows white people" or "men" or "non-handicapped" or "Christians" and see how well that goes over.

This isn't an event endorsed by a college, this is an event funded by the students that are participating.   So therefore not "official"


And the thought of a "Tufts Constitution" is just adorable, too.  This is just part of the cute little student government game.  Practice for practicing law.
 
2013-01-30 08:41:04 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I can't decide whether she's hot or not


I'm sure there are plenty of hotter chicks at her college, and most of them won't whine to the media about not being old enough to legally drink booze.
 
2013-01-30 08:41:23 PM

Girion47: StopLurkListen: Nope, I'm on her side. Whether or not admission is directly funded by her isn't an issue. She attends college for all the benefits and activities, and if an _official_ class event unreasonably excludes her, it's denying her a part of the college that she _did_ pay for.

Replace "business that only allows those 21 years old and above" with "business that only allows white people" or "men" or "non-handicapped" or "Christians" and see how well that goes over.

This isn't an event endorsed by a college, this is an event funded by the students that are participating.   So therefore not "official"


You're right, *if* this event isn't official. That's why I bolded it in my comment.

The lede graph in the article: "A 20-year-old senior at Tufts University has filed an age discrimination complaint against the Senior Class Council for planning graduation activities that are restricted to students who are ages 21 or older."

 Sounds official to me ... Unless it's a social club called "The Senior Class Council" with absolutely no connection to the university.
 
2013-01-30 08:42:18 PM
This woman is the Rosa Parks of her generation.
 
2013-01-30 08:42:20 PM

halB: My college had a women's center and a daycare.  I wasn't allowed to use either of those.  Do I get my fees refunded?


Um. Firstly, anybody is allowed to use a Women's Center. In general their purpose is eduction and equality and they tend to allow pretty much anybody in for that specific reason.

Secondly, you are allowed to use the daycare. The fact that you had no children (I assume) makes it moot, however.

... try again?
 
2013-01-30 08:43:33 PM

Leishu: Girion47: Joe USer: I was about to say this is stupid, but the fund she paid into also pays for the party that she's not allowed to go to.

Refund her fees in full and still let her go to the other events, problem solved. A very small slap on the wrist to a college who didn't plan properly.

According to the article, the event at the 21+ event would be funded by those that bought tickets to said event.  So no, her money doesn't go to it until she buys a ticket, buying a ticket for an event you aren't old enough to get into, would be stupid.


/Drinking age should be 18
//responsible drinking should be taught at home starting at 12 with drinks alongside meals.

In fairness, it says mostly funded, and the organization that puts on the event is entirely funded by those fees and held to the school constitution, which specifically prohibits discrimination by age. This kid actually does have a valid case, even if it's spoiling the fun of others.


you know, I pay taxes.  Can I file complaints that I don't get veterans preference when applying for a federal job?  I can I file a complaint that I can't take advantage of social security at 29?  I mean I do pay into it.
 
2013-01-30 08:44:14 PM

Leishu: halB: My college had a women's center and a daycare.  I wasn't allowed to use either of those.  Do I get my fees refunded?

Um. Firstly, anybody is allowed to use a Women's Center. In general their purpose is eduction and equality and they tend to allow pretty much anybody in for that specific reason.

Secondly, you are allowed to use the daycare. The fact that you had no children (I assume) makes it moot, however.

... try again?


Fail.

The daycare, I'll give you. But a lot of women's centres are intended as a "safe" place for women where they don't have to associated with the damn dirty menz.
 
2013-01-30 08:44:24 PM

Leishu: halB: My college had a women's center and a daycare.  I wasn't allowed to use either of those.  Do I get my fees refunded?

Um. Firstly, anybody is allowed to use a Women's Center. In general their purpose is eduction and equality and they tend to allow pretty much anybody in for that specific reason.

Secondly, you are allowed to use the daycare. The fact that you had no children (I assume) makes it moot, however.

... try again?


This is the sort of thing that makes me weep for the future of America.
 
2013-01-30 08:44:45 PM

Girion47: Leishu: Girion47: Joe USer: I was about to say this is stupid, but the fund she paid into also pays for the party that she's not allowed to go to.

Refund her fees in full and still let her go to the other events, problem solved. A very small slap on the wrist to a college who didn't plan properly.

According to the article, the event at the 21+ event would be funded by those that bought tickets to said event.  So no, her money doesn't go to it until she buys a ticket, buying a ticket for an event you aren't old enough to get into, would be stupid.


/Drinking age should be 18
//responsible drinking should be taught at home starting at 12 with drinks alongside meals.

In fairness, it says mostly funded, and the organization that puts on the event is entirely funded by those fees and held to the school constitution, which specifically prohibits discrimination by age. This kid actually does have a valid case, even if it's spoiling the fun of others.

you know, I pay taxes.  Can I file complaints that I don't get veterans preference when applying for a federal job?  I can I file a complaint that I can't take advantage of social security at 29?  I mean I do pay into it.


And now we've reached the false equivocation portion of the thread. :)
 
2013-01-30 08:44:45 PM

StopLurkListen: Replace "business that only allows those 21 years old and above" with "business that only allows white people" or "men" or "non-handicapped" or "Christians" and see how well that goes over.


I like it.
 
2013-01-30 08:45:03 PM

betelgeux: As a veteran I was an older student when starting college and I didn't know there was such a thing as senior week.  This might be a silly question but, doesn't every student celebrate Senior Week, every week, regardless of age or what year they're currently in?


When I was an 18 year-old freshman, my dorm room mate was a 30 year-old vet.  Yes, we did.  It was very good.
 
2013-01-30 08:45:06 PM
I graduated before I was 20, but don't recall any issues.  There was a senior week and a senior... street fair thing.  If there was an actual banquet with alcohol I don't remember hearing about it.
 
2013-01-30 08:46:02 PM

mavrickatubc: Atta girl, genius. Now when you're looking for work soon, when prospective employers google your name they will immediately toss your resumé in the trash becase you're a headcase.

Totally worth it, I am sure.


She will also be labeled as a trouble maker. She's sure to sue her first (and last) employer for anything she can pull out of thin air.
 
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