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2013-01-30 05:47:28 PM  
We need to take a good long look at these people. Look at how they behave, their regressive attitudes towards sex and women, their support of Israel above their own country.

Look hard, and ask yourself, "Are these Americans?"
 
2013-01-30 05:51:13 PM  

JesusJuice: We need to take a good long look at these people. Look at how they behave, their regressive attitudes towards sex and women, their support of Israel above their own country.

Look hard, and ask yourself, "Are these Americans?"


But enough about the GOP.
 
2013-01-30 05:51:54 PM  

LrdPhoenix: It's a German concrete pump company "Plaster Master." In Yiddish it would be "penis master" though.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putzmeister


actually, i think that was the logo. so it's a master at "pumping slurry..." but not a penis!
 
2013-01-30 05:52:00 PM  

Cythraul: First Muslims in London doing this shiat, now Jews in New York City?


All religions look the same to me anyway.
 
2013-01-30 05:53:41 PM  

gja: SovietCanuckistan: Communist_Manifesto: gja: Doink_Boink: As an atheist maybe I should go around town telling women to wear less clothes, slut it up a bit.

Is it OK if I am Christian, but still want to support your initiative?

Totally okay, maybe this is the way we can all come together as one. Our slogan could be something like, "God or No, please dress like a hoe!" or something like that

Cleavage for Christ

Booty for Buddha

Mammaries for Mohammed

Keep it going! Let's not leave anyone out.


Snatches for Satan

Vagina for Vishnu

Dicks for Dionysus

Penises for Popes

/and it was close enough to mine that I shake my tiny fist at Maud Dib.
 
2013-01-30 05:56:36 PM  
Seems appropos whenever Sister Bertha Better-Than-You gets mentioned:

The Mississippi Squirrel Revival

/ bonus: The guy who wrote that is now a rabid teabaggie.

farkingatwork:

I hope people in Brooklyn start taking up smartphones to record these threats and force it public. fark that corrupt shiat.

Your jib... I like the cut of it.
 
2013-01-30 05:56:50 PM  
When the fark did I wake up in a Sheri Tepper novel?

ecx.images-amazon.com

If we're damned and determined we're going to have a horrible dystopia, why can't it be Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash or Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan?  Hell, I'll even take Robert Heinlein's Revolt in 2100.  Instead we're going for the one where everyone is accidentally neutered by a virus.  Sheesh.
 
2013-01-30 05:57:37 PM  

JesusJuice: We need to take a good long look at these people. Look at how they behave, their regressive attitudes towards sex and women, their support of Israel above their own country.

Look hard, and ask yourself, "Are these Americans?"


Kid the Universe: Dr Dreidel: vernonFL: The Larch: Vectron: So you're telling other people how to dress?

I love the hats. Does anyone know if there's a coffee table book somewhere called "Very Silly Hats of Brooklyn" or something similar?

The hats are a status symbol, they are worn to mark how wealthy a person is. Those people are wealthy.

As I understand, they're worn because "The Rebbe" wore one (the leader of each sect is that sect's "Rebbe". They usually replace him with his top deputy when he dies, unless you're a crazy Messianic cult). That's how the various styles came to be - most times, you see a wide-brimmed fur hat (the kind in that photo), but there are sects that wear a taller, more cylindrical-shaped hat. There are also ultra-Orthodox people who don't wear hats at all - non-Hasidic types, mostly.

They are expensive as hell, though - one wonders how a family barely getting by with 1 job, 8 kids, welfare and community support can afford $1000 for a hat. In that sense, I suppose there is a "status" element there - if you're the only Shlomo on the block not wearing a streimel, the chapsen will come beat you with tsimmes-soaked shmattas.


They are ALL on food stamps and welfare. Used to live in the neighborhood and all the women with their litters in tow carried EBT cards. A truly nasty and xenophobic people, for sure


ANTI SEMITE!
 
2013-01-30 06:03:19 PM  
if only i lived close enough to put on a corset and slutty clothes and go annoy them a couple times a week.
 
2013-01-30 06:05:54 PM  

mjones73: Sounds like they need to get a bunch of woman in biker shorts to start hanging around that neighborhood just to annoy them...


They'd stone the women. That's what these freaks do in Israel.
 
2013-01-30 06:06:55 PM  
Despite the gloss given by most US history books, the Pilgrims didn't leave England and the Netherlands because they wanted religious freedom.

They left Europe because they couldn't turn Europe into the theocracy they wanted.

Dudes... You're living in *Brooklyn.* Give it up.
 
2013-01-30 06:10:29 PM  

Vectron: Orthodox leader Nechemya Weberman, 53, is currently on trial for allegedly abusing a young girl he counseled. Yesterday, four men were arrested and accused of using intimidation and bribery to get the girl to drop the charges.
Abraham Rubin is accused of offering a $500,000 bribe to the alleged victim, in hopes of getting her to drop the charges against an Orthodox community member who she says molested her for three years.........139 have been prosecuted for sex abuse since 2009

These people are sooo moral.


Hey, women belong at the back of the bus. G-d told them so.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/21/uk-bus-women-idUSLNE79K04T 20 111021
 
2013-01-30 06:11:06 PM  
if i was a pretty girl, i would go parading around brooklyn in a thong.

i would also be a slut.
 
2013-01-30 06:12:26 PM  
I say we re-label them as "Hate Squads" and let the public will take care of these people.
 
2013-01-30 06:12:43 PM  

Mister Pleco: They should pass out patches to wear to all the immodest Jews they come across; so that others will know that they are not be treated equally. It's been done in the past with great effectiveness.



A yellow star, perhaps???
 
2013-01-30 06:16:04 PM  

Psycat: Kunks!: FTA: "They're considered crazy, but people don't want to confront them."

This is what it really comes down to, Jews in the community are afraid to say anything. For extremely religious people, being Orthodox is like a pissing contest. Nobody wants to be seen as less religious as the next guy, even when the next guy is batshiat insane.

And they just straight up don't care what anyone from outside the community has to say, if you're not Orthodox Jewish, you're barely above the dirt.

/I'm Jewish
//They REALLY don't like non-practicing Jews, either.

I get along with non-practicing Jews very well, even dated three non-religious Jewish women over the years. The Hasidics and Charedi seem to be the fundamentalists among the lot, proof that even Jews have their fanatics.

The Hasidics seem pretty funny in a couple of ways to me:

1) they have about a zillion rules for everything. They probably have a dozen rules for wiping one's butt after going poop. There's Rabbis that spend their entire lives debating exactly how many steps a person can take on the Sabbath. As if Jehovah really cares about this--they're just as silly as the Amish who argue whether or not zippers on clothing violate their silly book of rules.

2) all those clever devices and tricks they use to try and get around the Sabbath prohibition against work. There's a whole industry that makes special appliances that lets Hasidic Jews comply with the Sabbath laws in fact if not in spirit. There's even elevators in Israel that have a special Sabbath mode that lets people go up, but not down (going down means you're providing work to lift the counterweight). What gets me is the assumption that Jehovah isn't smart enough to see through all this legalistic nonsense.


So that's why they are all lawyers...

/Ducks
//Gluten-free meal and a window seat please
 
2013-01-30 06:16:46 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Cleavage for Christ

Booty for Buddha

Mammaries for Mohammed

Keep it going! Let's not leave anyone out.

Anuses for Atheists!

Boners for Baptists!

Pudenda for Pagans!


YaYas for Yahweh!
 
2013-01-30 06:18:13 PM  

Vectron: Israel is at the center of international trade in the drug ecstasy, according to a document published last week by the U.S. State Department.

Like with the diamond trade at one time, Jews have a virtual monopoly on the drug ecstasy. Production in the Netherlands is controlled by the Israeli mafia.
There is a movie about the hasidic smugglers.


Well, that's good to know. I had thought that they didn't do any useful work.
 
2013-01-30 06:19:11 PM  

Doink_Boink: As an atheist maybe I should go around town telling women to wear less clothes, slut it up a bit.


I'mokwiththis.jpg
 
2013-01-30 06:19:34 PM  

Kunks!: FTA: "They're considered crazy, but people don't want to confront them."

This is what it really comes down to, Jews in the community are afraid to say anything. For extremely religious people, being Orthodox is like a pissing contest. Nobody wants to be seen as less religious as the next guy, even when the next guy is batshiat insane.

And they just straight up don't care what anyone from outside the community has to say, if you're not Orthodox Jewish, you're barely above the dirt.

/I'm Jewish
//They REALLY don't like non-practicing Jews, either.


I'd imagine once the cops get involved they'll care quite a bit what people outside the community have to say. Especially lawyers.

/And I kind of hope the cops do show up here
//I mean, really, corrupt cops v. Jewish Mafia. How hardcore is that?
 
2013-01-30 06:22:42 PM  
Vectron: Like with the diamond trade at one time, Jews have a virtual monopoly on the drug ecstasy. Production in the Netherlands is controlled by the Israeli mafia.

There is a movie about the hasidic smugglers.

Jesse Eisenberg, one of the actors who graduated from the Michael Cera School of Acting

It was an interesting film, though still find the end cliche funny (I wonder how true this was) of Jesse's character laying Tefillin (thanks to a nearby Mitzvah Tank), bringing him spiritual guilt, which leads to his next action bringing down the entire drug organization. Makes me wish this technique worked on all the Ultra Orthodox child molesters, drug smugglers, tax evaders, ect; who would change their ways after practicing this religious duty, but consider how they do it everyday except for Shabbat, it unfortunately doesn't do the same thing to them as it does to a movie character!
 
2013-01-30 06:23:50 PM  
But of course if one criticizes these oppressive practices, one is branded anti-Semitic. Now where's that Gerald Scarfe cartoon?
 
2013-01-30 06:24:27 PM  

PsiChick: //I mean, really, corrupt cops v. Jewish Mafia. How hardcore is that?


Someone should make a movie about it.
 
2013-01-30 06:26:26 PM  
This wouldn't happen if Jewish women had guns.
 
2013-01-30 06:26:34 PM  

ChubbyTiger: SovietCanuckistan: AgentBang: Friend of mine joined the 14th Street Y in NYC because it had a gym and is close to where he lives. He is not Jewish, but it happens to be part of the Educational Alliance, a Jewish non-profit.

When he was checking out the pool schedule, he noticed that there were a few blocks of time where only women could swim. He asked about it, thinking it was a bit strange. They said that it's because they have to adhere to some Jewish standard or something that men and women can't be in the pool together. But they told him in a "Well that's just our policy" kind of way.

Could you imagine the fallout if it was a Muslim place? The NY Post and Fox News would be picketing and harassing the management post haste.

I went to a Jewish weeding last year and when I was introduced to the Rabbi, I shook his hand and extended my hand to his wife as well. I might as well pulled a gun from my coat.

To be fair, it's traditionally not considered polite to offer your hand to any female. You always wait for them to extend their hand first. This is not a Jewish thing (exclusively).


No, that's not why. A man should NEVER touch a woman he is not family with or married to.

AND he's also not allowed to touch his wife either when she has her period. She has to go through a cleansing ritual before she can be touched again.

I work with a lot of Hasids (NYC real estate). Most are pretty cool guys.... But I've learned not to offer my hand for them to shake.

There was this REALLY hot one who used to work shirtless in the construction of one of my buildings years ago. Yummy. We'd flirt but at age 25 he was already married with like 5 kids. But damn. I woulda.
 
2013-01-30 06:28:11 PM  

vernonFL: The Larch: Vectron: So you're telling other people how to dress?

I love the hats. Does anyone know if there's a coffee table book somewhere called "Very Silly Hats of Brooklyn" or something similar?

The hats are a status symbol, they are worn to mark how wealthy a person is. Those people are wealthy.


"Mug Me" hats? Great idea! Very sporting.
 
2013-01-30 06:29:06 PM  

Calmamity: believing that an uncovered head or a skirt that reveals too much will arouse the sexual attention of men and boys.

Any society that can't manage to raise it's men to understand that rape is a bad thing and makes it the women's problem can go fu*k itself.


What these idiots fail to realize is that without temptation, righteousness cannot exist.

It is not the absence of sin which defines the righteous man. It is the personal rejection of sin which defines the righteous. With the ability to sin removed, the venial are not raised to a state of grace, and the virtuous are denied the opportunity.

The devout should never advocate the banishment of vice, rather they must individually face and overcome the temptation.

A man who doesn't steal a diamond that is locked in a vault shows no greater virtue than a man who neglects to return an overpayment.
 
2013-01-30 06:30:56 PM  

Vectron: I guess I'm confused. What is religious about them? Is the main religious tenets, rippiing off the goyim and fark anything with a hole in it? I have former friend that went orthodox. Years ago he was an arrogant asshole. Now he is an arrogant asshole x10.




I'm not Jewish, but because of my job, I've known several Orthodox Jews personally, and they've been uniformly wonderful, warm, caring people, who I would gladly defer to on matters of their own religion, even those tenets I don't agree with. It's not MY religion.

That said, there are child molesters and drug dealers in every community. Being born into a particular community doesn't make a person immune to stupidity.
 
2013-01-30 06:36:50 PM  
raatz01
mjones73: Sounds like they need to get a bunch of woman in biker shorts to start hanging around that neighborhood just to annoy them...
They'd stone the women. That's what these freaks do in Israel.


Record it and get these morons sent to jail for assault.

I think there was a plan for a topless bike ride protesting the lack of a bike path though Williamsburg. Don't know why they called it off.
 
2013-01-30 06:43:25 PM  

gja: SovietCanuckistan: Communist_Manifesto: gja: Doink_Boink: As an atheist maybe I should go around town telling women to wear less clothes, slut it up a bit.

Is it OK if I am Christian, but still want to support your initiative?

Totally okay, maybe this is the way we can all come together as one. Our slogan could be something like, "God or No, please dress like a hoe!" or something like that

Cleavage for Christ

Booty for Buddha

Mammaries for Mohammed

Keep it going! Let's not leave anyone out.


Hooters for Hinduism

how 'bout for Wicca? or Shinto (sp?)?
 
2013-01-30 06:44:32 PM  
Religion's scary as fark. fark these guys and the people who enable them
 
2013-01-30 06:47:30 PM  
Anal for Athiests
Bondage for Buddists
Cunnilingus for Christians
Deep throat for Deists
Ejaculations for Evangelists
Fellatio for Flying Spaghetti Monster
Group sex for Galileans
Hand jobs for Hassidic jews
Intercourse for Islam
Jerking off for Jesuits
Kiddy diddling for Kabala
Lesbianism for Latter Day Saints
Mammaries for Mennonites
Necrophelia for Nilhilist
Orgies for Occultists
Pedophilia for Papists
Queefing for Quakers
Rape for Rastafarianism
Screwing for Satanists
Teabagging for Taoism
Urinism for Unitarianism
Veneral disease for the Vatican
Wanking for Wiccans
Xenophilia for Xylolaters
Yiffing for Yahweh
Zoophilia for Zoroastrianism
 
2013-01-30 06:48:07 PM  
This sounds like a job for Foreskin Man.
 
2013-01-30 06:50:25 PM  
Breygon:

gja: SovietCanuckistan: Communist_Manifesto: gja: Doink_Boink: As an atheist maybe I should go around town telling women to wear less clothes, slut it up a bit.

Is it OK if I am Christian, but still want to support your initiative?

Totally okay, maybe this is the way we can all come together as one. Our slogan could be something like, "God or No, please dress like a hoe!" or something like that

Cleavage for Christ

Booty for Buddha

Mammaries for Mohammed

Keep it going! Let's not leave anyone out.

Hooters for Hinduism

how 'bout for Wicca? or Shinto (sp?)?


Woo-ha's for Wicca? Slits for Shinto? Sluts for Shinto? Tits for Tezcatlipoca? Orgasms for Onari? Hotties for Haephestos? Cocks for Chronos? Just about anything for Zeus?
 
2013-01-30 06:51:11 PM  
Silverstaff: Also thinks is smart stuff

You now wear that wonderful shade of favorited
 
2013-01-30 06:51:19 PM  
So when should we expect the next new Discovery Channel reality show documentary to premiere?
 
2013-01-30 06:52:48 PM  

serpent_sky: The fact that they are threatened by a mannequin and its potential to arouse is disturbing on so many levels.


hilobrow.com

You'd hit it.
 
2013-01-30 06:53:02 PM  

LrdPhoenix: FlashHarry: MaudlinMutantMollusk: So you could say the Hasidic are base?

the base? as in "al qaeda?"

I'm pretty sure he's making an acid/base joke here.


It was a PHun.
 
2013-01-30 07:01:53 PM  
www.walkinwilliescomix.com
 
2013-01-30 07:03:26 PM  

Calmamity: believing that an uncovered head or a skirt that reveals too much will arouse the sexual attention of men and boys.

Any society that can't manage to raise it's men to understand that rape is a bad thing and makes it the women's problem can go fu*k itself.


This.

As much as I want to respect someone's beliefs, I really want to stroll down the street in hot shorts and pasties.
 
2013-01-30 07:04:48 PM  
 "It's somebody who is a busybody, and there are quite a few of them - zealots who take it upon themselves and they just enforce. They're considered crazy, but people don't want to confront them."

Didn't they have a similar problem with busybodies reporting people and thugs enforcing the rules in Warsaw about 70 years ago? How did that work out?
 
2013-01-30 07:07:24 PM  
www.robertsinclair.net
 
2013-01-30 07:09:06 PM  

Psycat: 2) all those clever devices and tricks they use to try and get around the Sabbath prohibition against work. There's a whole industry that makes special appliances that lets Hasidic Jews comply with the Sabbath laws in fact if not in spirit. There's even elevators in Israel that have a special Sabbath mode that lets people go up, but not down (going down means you're providing work to lift the counterweight). What gets me is the assumption that Jehovah isn't smart enough to see through all this legalistic nonsense.


http://webpages.charter.net/leutzdave/Feynman/part-5.html#48

Best writing on this idiocy ever.


Finally I tried to assure the rabbinical students that the electric spark that was bothering them when they pushed the elevator buttons was not fire. I said, "Electricity is not fire. It's not a chemical process, as fire is." "
    Oh?" they said. "
    Of course, there's electricity in amongst the atoms in a fire."
    "Aha!" they said.
  "And in every other phenomenon that occurs in the world."
    I even proposed a practical solution for eliminating the spark. "If that's what's bothering you, you can put a condenser across the switch, so the electricity will go on and off without any spark whatsoever -- anywhere." But for some reason, they didn't like that idea either.

 
2013-01-30 07:13:32 PM  
What kind of sick, erotic, fantasies are these guys having that store window mannequins are giving them a chubby?

There is a all Catholic girls college where I used to live.During the weekends, if you wanted a real freak you'd try to find one of the girls that went there. Nothing is better then a girl who has been sexual repressed most of her life. So yea, special thanks to all the Christian families out there. Thanks for raising your daughter on the caste-path of your god. *thumbs up*
 
2013-01-30 07:15:01 PM  
 
2013-01-30 07:15:25 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: What kind of sick, erotic, fantasies are these guys having that store window mannequins are giving them a chubby?

There is a all Catholic girls college where I used to live.During the weekends, if you wanted a real freak you'd try to find one of the girls that went there. Nothing is better then a girl who has been sexual repressed most of her life. So yea, special thanks to all the Christian families out there. Thanks for raising your daughter on the caste-path of your god. *thumbs up*


Salve Regina in Newport RI by any chance???
 
2013-01-30 07:17:00 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: What kind of sick, erotic, fantasies are these guys having that store window mannequins are giving them a chubby?

There is a all Catholic girls college where I used to live.During the weekends, if you wanted a real freak you'd try to find one of the girls that went there. Nothing is better then a girl who has been sexual repressed most of her life. So yea, special thanks to all the Christian families out there. Thanks for raising your daughter on the caste-path of your god. *thumbs up*


This. Church girls are the biggest freaks; preacher's daughters even more so.
 
2013-01-30 07:17:10 PM  

Shmeat: [www.walkinwilliescomix.com image 310x465]


Re: Mod Squad

Did you know Peggy Lipton's real name was Lipschitz? He dad was a NY Jewish law-ya. She married producer Quincy Jones and had 2 kids with him.
 
2013-01-30 07:26:04 PM  

Calmamity: Any society that can't manage to raise it's men to understand that rape is a bad thing and makes it the women's problem can go fu*k itself.


Seriously goddamn THIS. What's up with the total abdication of male responsibility in middle eastern religions? Their men are all chest-thumpy and MANLY MEN with a capital "M," but seeing some ankle or a pretty face suddenly turns them into slavering, unaccountable retards? I agree with Calmamity... f#ck you people and your fearful, superstitious bullsh#t.
 
2013-01-30 07:26:15 PM  

irreverend mother: if only i lived close enough to put on a corset and slutty clothes and go annoy them a couple times a week.


It might be dangerous for you to go alone. Perhaps you should bring along some strong, healthy young men to escort you.
cdn.twospoke.com
 
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