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(AZ Family) NewsFlash Three people shot in a Phoenix office complex. Clearly, we need to arm every cube dweller from now on   (azfamily.com) divider line 77
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2013-01-30 03:02:10 PM
7 votes:
Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.
2013-01-30 03:30:18 PM
5 votes:
Holy shiat you Americans are dumb motherfarkers.
2013-01-30 03:16:45 PM
4 votes:
I'm getting really tired of resetting the Too Soon To Talk About It clock.
2013-01-30 03:06:43 PM
4 votes:

natmar_76: The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.


See, now we're getting down to the heart of the matter. I had always thought PEOPLE were the problem behind all this violence. Guns just sit there idle until some nutter picks one up and starts blasting away with it.

That other article on Fark, with the 5 common-sense ideas, includes people as one of the major components to curbing gun violence. Sure, limiting access to guns will help, but it won't fix the core problem. I mean, what does it say about our culture where shootings and blood and other mayhem is perfectly OK on prime-time TV, but YOU JUST SHOW ONE NIPPLE AND EVERYONE LOSES THEIR shiat!!!

We've got some messed-up priorities.
2013-01-30 03:00:43 PM
4 votes:
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
2013-01-30 02:56:32 PM
4 votes:
Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.
2013-01-30 03:53:28 PM
3 votes:

Mija: These kinds of arguements against guns are getting old. This is a mental health issue. People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns. Of course people know that but don't want logic to interfear with theit hatred of guns. Pathetic.


If you truly believe that a screwdriver is just as effective tool for killing human beings as a Bushmaster, then by your own logic there is absolutely no need for a Bushmaster for self defense since a screwdriver is in every way an equivalent substitute.

Sorry, people are just tetting testy because they're tired of gun nuts slaughtering school children.
2013-01-30 03:51:31 PM
3 votes:
I'm tired of shooting threads. Whatever happened to good ol' boobie threads? Let's make this one of those
almostdumb.com
2013-01-30 03:28:07 PM
3 votes:

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


pedrop357: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

There's an agenda to be pursued here dammit!


Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?


WayneKerr: Is this really news? Why the Newsflash tag?



Translation:
i99.photobucket.com

There's nothing going on here folks. You people are looking for problems that don't exist.
2013-01-30 03:13:46 PM
3 votes:

Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?


WayneKerr: Is this really news? Why the Newsflash tag?


styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


mass shootings are regular events, people! they're not news! welcome to wayne la pierre's america!
2013-01-30 02:57:45 PM
3 votes:
Why is this even news?

"Some Americans shot some other Americans" is as much news as "Some Frenchman drank a glass of wine"

It's just what they do...
2013-01-30 02:56:19 PM
3 votes:
I am numb to this
2013-01-30 02:00:15 PM
3 votes:

CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.


I knew it!  the turf war between the PC Load Letters and the BSODs has spilled out into the open!
2013-01-31 12:19:14 AM
2 votes:
Why does it matter if a gun was involved?

Because in Great Britain where they use knives and hammers to commit mass murders, they have an intentional homicide rate that is 1/4th of what we have in America.

There's a good reason why people choose to use AR-15 rifles to commit mass murder.  They are far more effective than running around a school with a switch blade.   As we saw in China, where an insane dude went to a school with a knife and slashed 30 kids the same week that Sandy Hook took place.  In China, all the kids that were attacked lived.
2013-01-30 09:05:05 PM
2 votes:
I'm kind of happy about all the green-lit shooting stories popping up on aggregating websites like Fark. At least it makes it blindingly obvious just how many fricking people get shot in the USA. And, unfortunately, the stories are so banal or idiotic that it completely reveals just how stupid it is to allow anyone to easily get their hands on a something that they can casually or accidentally kill someone else with.
2013-01-30 07:55:08 PM
2 votes:
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2013-01-30 04:25:55 PM
2 votes:

H0llyw00d: Der Poopflinger: H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said

that's some brand of stupid you're sporting there

Please. You have to be ignorant to think that banning assault rifles or high capacity mags will stop any of this crap. People who want to do bad, will do bad, and nothing will stop them. It may cost more, or be harder to get, but when properly motivated, they'll get what they want.

Our society is in a deep, deep down-slide. We glorify violence and think that sex is okay whenever and wherever with whomever. Simultaneously, we openly accept homosexuality, which is clearly the opposite of natural. Our children are being raised more and more often in single parent (often mother) households. We're screwed as a culture, and somehow people think banning certain guns is the answer?

/smh


I don't even know where to start with any of that stupid you've laid out, so I'll just stick to the gun portion
If you make something difficult and more expensive to get it can rapidly demotivate an individual to get that item
2013-01-30 04:13:51 PM
2 votes:
It has been 0 DAYS since our last mass shooting.
2013-01-30 03:53:02 PM
2 votes:

paygun: Let's pass a new law, that will change human American nature. It'll work this time, I promise.


Let's not pin our shiat on all of humanity.
2013-01-30 03:50:26 PM
2 votes:

Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]


And yet, homicides due to guns are dropping, with 11,101 in 2011 (most recent data available), or 3.6 deaths due to firearms per 100,000 people. [citation]. Of over 2.5 million people who died in 2011, under half a percent of them were murdered with a gun. [citation]. More people (16,634) died of alcoholic liver disease, to say nothing of alcohol-induced death (26,256). Ban booze!

But it is in the news cycle now, so we'll get blasted with every single event that might involve a firearm, even though they are statistical outliers. But they make good copy.
2013-01-30 03:48:46 PM
2 votes:

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


The whole culture is debating gun control. Fark's not exempt. It  is a newsflash.

/I'd like to think murder\attempted murder would deserve a newsflash on its own...
2013-01-30 03:45:04 PM
2 votes:
moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

Yeah liberals attacking in violent rage never happens

JFK - killed by liberal

Lincoln (Republican) - killed by democrat

MLK (Republican) - killed by democrat

Andrew Joseph Stack III, flew his Piper Dakota into IRS building after posting anti Bush/business manifesto online.

Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski (AKA Uni-bomber) - Left wing eco terrorist Multiple murders and attempted murder

Floyd Lee Corkins II ( liberal gay activist) Entered "Conservative" Family Research Center and opened fire

James Chester Blanning (Planted multiple bombs around Aspen banks) A snippet from his threat:
Do not f*** with us or there will be mass death like we have all been part of over in that f***ing quicksand trap that rove and chaney's monkey bush put us into

*sounds like farkers

Bill Ayers (Obama friend and supporter) "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough."

Carol Anne Burger (writer for the Huffington Post ) - stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver [ thank god she didn't have a gun]
Her final article for huff-po? "Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for. "

John Patrick Bedell (Registered democrat) - Pentagon shooter.

Liberal talk show host Charles Karel Bouley on the air.
"F*** God D*mned Joe the God D*mned Motherf*cking plumber! I want Motherf*cking Joe the plumber dead."

Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church) - Long time fundraiser for and friend of al gore
www.freedomsphoenix.com
2013-01-30 03:43:09 PM
2 votes:
America is becoming more and more like mexico to us Canadians. Its a nice place to visit, if your in the right/protected area, but not a chance of moving/living there
2013-01-30 03:27:20 PM
2 votes:

JGolbez: Solution: Moar guns!

/Glad to not be 'Merican.


Then STFU
2013-01-30 03:25:31 PM
2 votes:
Bring back the farking death penalty, and I mean the real one, in mass shootings.
That farker from Ft. Hood, the waste of flesh from Newtown, that "joker" dipshiat from CO.

We know they did it. There is no reasonable doubt. Death! No appeals, no farking books, no movies, no interviews on tv, no last meal, fark all that, kill 'em.

The problem is there is no deterrent from being a murdering cock-sucker. If a guy can kill 26 people, 20 of which are children, and get 3 hot meals, a bed, heat, water, cable tv, and sell his story to the highest bidder, where is the punishment? I've been deployed twice, once to Iraq, once to Afghanistan, and farking criminals live and eat better than I did. That's bullshiat!

I guaran-goddamned-tee you that if those farkers were lined up and hung on the 50 yard line during halftime at the Super Bowl people would think twice about going on a killing spree. fark all this bleeding-heart "if we do that we're no better than them" shiat. We are better than them. We don't arbitrarily murder innocent people, and they have no place whatsoever in our society, bury the bastards and move on.

You want to see mass shootings and gun violence in general decline? Punish the motherfarkers who commit those crimes. In public. Permanently.
2013-01-30 03:05:09 PM
2 votes:
Just like we have that list of things that are a threat to America (someone or some people on this site own it), we need a list of people and things that require armed security/metal detectors.

Elementary schools
Movie theaters
Army bases
Shopping malls
Single family houses
Apartment units
Cars
Postmen,
Etc.
2013-01-30 02:59:46 PM
2 votes:

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


Helps the Fark agenda.
2013-01-30 02:57:35 PM
2 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com

/NEVER FORGET
2013-01-30 01:29:21 PM
2 votes:
Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.
2013-01-30 01:22:45 PM
2 votes:
Go ahead, take my red staple - see what happens!


/seriously, this is sad stuff
//get a grip, America
2013-01-30 10:21:17 PM
1 votes:

whatshisname: vabeard: Look to the individual, not the weapon.

So does America just have a whole lot more farked up individuals per capita than other western countries?


YES!!!

Look at our non-firearm murder rate by itself.
2013-01-30 10:17:02 PM
1 votes:

vabeard: Look to the individual, not the weapon.


So does America just have a whole lot more farked up individuals per capita than other western countries?
2013-01-30 09:20:24 PM
1 votes:

remus: The real problem is one I face in my Engineering job all the time, it's an optimization exercise. The problem with this one is that decreasing the rounds might, possibly, decrease the amount of damage a raging shooter can inflict, BUT, it also increases the risk for a legitimate, honest citizen trying to defend their home and babies.


It doesn't even stop mass shooters, they just bring more magazines and guns to offset any magazine limits.  They're also on the offensive and shooting at (nearly always) disarmed people taken by surprise.
They can afford to lug 2 or 3 guns and dozens of magazines in because they only carry it a small distance and don't have to worry about carrying it back out.

Self defense shooters aren't going to be able to carry a bunch of magazines and extra guns, and are typically on the defensive, facing one more pursuing aggressors and can't afford the small amount of time it takes to switch magazines, nor should they be artificially limited just so some people (not saying you) can feel like they're doing something useful.
2013-01-30 09:07:29 PM
1 votes:

NkThrasher: Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]

There is at least one country in the 50-75 bracket, with the US being the only one in the 75+ bracket.

If that country in the 50-75 is at 75, and the US is at 76, then there certainly is a country to compare to the US.

Poorly done graphic is poorly done.

/Not that I disagree with its summary
//Just that the data it presents doesn't conclusively show what it claims to


Actually, looking at the problem on a per capita and per gun basis, you STILL end up with the US being worse by a factor of 2.  Guns are clearly part of the problem, but they're not the totality of the problem.  (My bet is on the drug war being responsible for most of the rest.)
2013-01-30 08:38:10 PM
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Bisu: Do you think if Adam Lanza had only had 10 round magazines on his guns a 6 year old was going to stop him in the 2 seconds it takes to reload?

Remember the burglar who was shot five or six times in the face by the lady hiding with her kids? He still made it to his vehicle and drove a short way.

We know two adults rushed Lanza.

What's ten divided by two?


Hmm, not sure what you're getting at.  If the lady in GA had been using a 10 round magazine and the burglar had brought a friend, it seems she'd likely be dead along with her children as she'd have ran out of bullets before the threats were stopped...  Six shots to one guy didn't stop him completely, so it's reasonable to assume she wouldn't have been able to stop him plus one friend.  Note that it's hardly uncommon for burglars/home invasions to be done by more than one guy.

So, it seems like you're making the case that setting an artificial 10 round limit is indeed a bad idea as it leaves honest, law abiding citizens (like a mom protecting her children) unable to adequately defend themselves.  I agree with you, you're right.
2013-01-30 08:29:02 PM
1 votes:
Stop looking at the weapon, and start looking at the individual.

/lots of years on FARK
//Guns have always been around.  Look to the individual.
2013-01-30 08:16:22 PM
1 votes:

demaL-demaL-yeH: Ah, well that outweighs the six thousand Americans who have been shot since the beginning of the year, now doesn't it?


Huh? Where the hell are you getting 6,000 people in the past 30 days?! The highest number I've seen is around 1400, and of that at least 40 are from Chicago (which, in case you haven't heard, has a total gun ban).

People saving themselves and their families from would-be attackers just isn't newsworthy enough to be reported. I'm sure everyday there's a number of people that save themselves by shooting or simply brandishing a gun. Your average histrionic American would never pay attention to that. Instead we get newsflashes of "mass shootings" in which ONE person died in a premeditated attack.
2013-01-30 08:14:26 PM
1 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: OnlyM3: AKA: Why do you need more than 10 rounds


Why do you need to limit magazines to less than 10 rounds? Do you think it would have made a difference in any of the massacres? Cho Seung Hui used two handguns against adults and had no trouble changing magazines. Do you think if Adam Lanza had only had 10 round magazines on his guns a 6 year old was going to stop him in the 2 seconds it takes to reload?

Since Sandy Hook is the whole reason for the outrage and RUSH RUSH RUSH to get the laws changed, I propose everyone ask a few questions when considering a law/restriction:
1) If in effect, would this have stopped the massacre from occurring?
2) If in effect, would this have significantly decreased the odds of the massacre occurring?
3) If in effect, would this have significantly decreased the severity of the massacre?

Unfortunately, most of the proposals are no, no, and no. I don't understand the rush to IMMEDIATELY legislate things that would have had no effect on the event that has triggered the discussion in the first place.
2013-01-30 07:23:42 PM
1 votes:
applejack.ponychan.net
2013-01-30 07:12:31 PM
1 votes:

CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.


Sounds like the Crimson Permanent Assurance stirred up some trouble.

Bisu: [img1.fark.net image 54x11] 1500 innocent people died of cancer today in the US alone.


Good point. Let's ban tobacco.
2013-01-30 07:11:14 PM
1 votes:

Molavian: Bisu: [img1.fark.net image 54x11] 1500 innocent people died of cancer today in the US alone.

We should ban cancer.


standupcomedyclinic.com

Or we could "declare war" on it, but still not have to do anything constructive.
2013-01-30 06:23:31 PM
1 votes:

amquelbettamin: So is Reddit a good Fark substitute?


No.
2013-01-30 05:27:56 PM
1 votes:

ExpressPork: tallen702: So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

Since fark became a 24-hour douch-infested liberal circle-jerk.

It really never used to be this way. There was a time when it was actually fairly balanced and not biased. That goes for both mods and community. The last few years this site has really declined. It is now cringe-worthy levels of maximum agenda-based smug liberal douchebaggery on a daily basis. Which is why I rarely go to this site any more.

I have no idea what happened, maybe that's what pays the bills or something.


I suppose the possibility that U.S. demographics, and, hence, popular opinion, might be changing is just too far-fetched for your consideration, eh?
2013-01-30 05:01:54 PM
1 votes:

SH: Why are gun owners such drama queens?

All conservatives for that matter.


I'm a liberal, and I own a gun. I'm also gay, so maybe the 'queen' part fits.

I'd be interested to know: There was an office shooting in Minneapolis in September of last year that resulted in four fatalities; did that get a 'News Flash' tag? If not, then seems like decent corroboration of the idea that this is only a 'News Flash' because of current anti-gun sentiment.
2013-01-30 04:49:10 PM
1 votes:
FlashHarry

according to pro-gun farkers, it is. it doesn't even warrant a news flash!

Yes, it's gun owners who are suppressing the news:

Just from the past couple weeks

The links those with an agenda are afraid to greenlight.
AKA: Why do you need more than 10 rounds
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Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder
Link
A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.

The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar.

But the man eventually found the family.


The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets
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1 dead, 4 jailed after failed robbery
Link
...Anthony Barwick, 20, of Dayton, was shot in the leg. He was treated and released into police custody. Barwick, along with London Norman, 23, Deron McGuire Jr., 23, and Tavaughn Lewis, 19, the other men police said were involved in the home invasion, are all being held in the Greene County Jail on charges of felony aggravated burglary, aggravated robbery, and kidnapping.

Police said the men went to the house with the intent to rob the occupants....

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Link
When the first units arrived they learned a mother and a 6-year-old child were home alone when three Hispanic males broke into the home.
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Homeowner shoots armed burglar in the buttocks
Link
...the homeowner had Stewart at gunpoint when he told the homeowner that he was not going back to jail. That is when Stewart drew a pistol from his jacket and shot at the homeowner. The homeowner returned fire and shot Stewart in the buttocks. ...
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Father of Sandy Hook victim speaks out on gun violence
Link
*Video link
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AR-15 Used to Stop Home Invasion Robbery in New York
Link
... the RIT student noticed two men standing in the downstairs portion of his apartment.

"They were waiting for me at the bottom of the stairs," said Boise.

One of them had a handgun trained on Boise.

Within moments, Boise screamed. His cries were heard by his roommate, Raymond.

"It wasn't like a, 'I stepped by stepped on a piece of glass' kind of scream," Raymond said. "So, I instinctively went to my gun bag."

Raymond owns an AR-15 which is a military style rifle...
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Gutsy grandma shoots at robber after attack
56-year-old grandmother from Clinton Township attacked
Link
...The 56-year-old grandmother and great grandmother from Clinton Township has a permit to carry a gun, and when she was attacked on a city bus, she used it....
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D.C. man who shot dogs biting boy
Link
three pit bulls attacked an 11-year-old boy as he rode his bicycle through the Brightwood neighborhood of Northwest, according to a police report.

...When the man, a neighbor, saw the boy being mauled by the dogs, he went inside his home and got a gun. The man killed one of the dogs....

And in true PD fasion. The PD is going after this hero for doing thier job better than they do it.
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Armed Homeowner in Ohio Captures Two Daytime Burglars
Link
An Ohio homeowner came home during the day and found a man burglarizing his home. The homeowner, who has a concealed weapons permit, drew his gun and ordered the suspect to the ground.

*So much for idiot farker myth that gun owners will just open fire.
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Gun owner stops robbery
Link
Set against the backdrop of a national debate over gun control, a shooting early Tuesday in a Stone Oak-area subdivision that left one burglary suspect dead and another critically injured
2013-01-30 04:37:53 PM
1 votes:
biatch and moan all you want, we're all still going to have our guns. All you anti-gun cry babies should just get with the program and arm yourselves. If you can't beat em, join em. At least you'll be safer when some crackhead wants to kill you for your watch.
2013-01-30 04:17:10 PM
1 votes:

PsiChick: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

The whole culture is debating gun control. Fark's not exempt. It  is a newsflash.

/I'd like to think murder\attempted murder would deserve a newsflash on its own...


Funny that it's only guns, only recently and things like killings without guns and/or killing by police officers goes by without so much as a greenlight, much less a newsflash. Remember the link about the LV cop who murdered his wife and son, then killed himself? Neither do I.
2013-01-30 04:16:18 PM
1 votes:
So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

I mean, more people than that are killed in Chicago on a daily basis, same goes for Baltimore and DC. But it's suddenly something horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot and not a crack house or down by the docks?
2013-01-30 04:13:50 PM
1 votes:
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

/nuff said
2013-01-30 04:12:12 PM
1 votes:

Carn: Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?

You're right. They happen so often, why even report them anymore? Let's all just ignore it and it'll go away.


And yet you are not posting news flashes for rape. Why do you like rape so much?
2013-01-30 04:10:18 PM
1 votes:

Outlaw Thirds: Bendal: ariseatex: As an office worker who watched a 20-minute "preventing violence in the workplace" video this morning, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Apparently saying "You're all gonna pay for this!" is frowned upon
//Who knew?
///Slashies come in threes

Just last year we had someone in our building fired for saying that at a job performance review. He said something to the effect of "I'm feeling like snapping and bringing a gun up here" and was escorted immediately off the grounds by the "security" (which is made up of unarmed retirees). The next day his work team refused to show up at work and we were all told to alert security immediately if anyone saw him around the building.

After he was fired, he lost his house, got arrested, was out on bail, got arrested in another state, out on bail again, and then blew his head off with a shotgun.

/no mental evaluation was ever made for him
//it was recommended though when he was fired
///fat lot of good that did for him

So a guy that said he was ready to snap actually snapped, and they did the right thing by firing him and alerting security?


Wouldnt it be nice if there was some sort of federally funded program that could step in, put this guy under evaluation, talk to him about his problems and find actual solutions to whats really farking with his head? If he's stressed or just chemically unbalanced maybe some free mood stabilizers and monthly checkups that he cant legally turn down as long as he appears to be a danger maybe?

Or just fark him, turn him into a social pariah until he kills himself and or others? Liberal American logic
2013-01-30 04:10:02 PM
1 votes:
i5.photobucket.com

Pretty much this.
2013-01-30 03:57:30 PM
1 votes:

ariseatex: As an office worker who watched a 20-minute "preventing violence in the workplace" video this morning, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Apparently saying "You're all gonna pay for this!" is frowned upon
//Who knew?
///Slashies come in threes


Just last year we had someone in our building fired for saying that at a job performance review. He said something to the effect of "I'm feeling like snapping and bringing a gun up here" and was escorted immediately off the grounds by the "security" (which is made up of unarmed retirees). The next day his work team refused to show up at work and we were all told to alert security immediately if anyone saw him around the building.

After he was fired, he lost his house, got arrested, was out on bail, got arrested in another state, out on bail again, and then blew his head off with a shotgun.

/no mental evaluation was ever made for him
//it was recommended though when he was fired
///fat lot of good that did for him
2013-01-30 03:54:05 PM
1 votes:

natmar_76: The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).


I'm picturing a massacre like Sandy Hook being a bit more difficult with only bare hands.

Let's take this line of thinking to its logical limits. Say instead of guns, there was a bank of switches on a wall. Flip a switch, and someone dies. Could you still stand up in public and say "this mass killing would have happened even if we deactivated the switches"?
2013-01-30 03:52:24 PM
1 votes:

Sid_the_sadist: Bring back the farking death penalty, and I mean the real one, in mass shootings.
That farker from Ft. Hood, the waste of flesh from Newtown, that "joker" dipshiat from CO.

We know they did it. There is no reasonable doubt. Death! No appeals, no farking books, no movies, no interviews on tv, no last meal, fark all that, kill 'em.

The problem is there is no deterrent from being a murdering cock-sucker. If a guy can kill 26 people, 20 of which are children, and get 3 hot meals, a bed, heat, water, cable tv, and sell his story to the highest bidder, where is the punishment? I've been deployed twice, once to Iraq, once to Afghanistan, and farking criminals live and eat better than I did. That's bullshiat!

I guaran-goddamned-tee you that if those farkers were lined up and hung on the 50 yard line during halftime at the Super Bowl people would think twice about going on a killing spree. fark all this bleeding-heart "if we do that we're no better than them" shiat. We are better than them. We don't arbitrarily murder innocent people, and they have no place whatsoever in our society, bury the bastards and move on.

You want to see mass shootings and gun violence in general decline? Punish the motherfarkers who commit those crimes. In public. Permanently.


Punishing crazy people doesn't deter crazy people.
2013-01-30 03:50:11 PM
1 votes:
These kinds of arguements against guns are getting old. This is a mental health issue. People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns. Of course people know that but don't want logic to interfear with theit hatred of guns. Pathetic.
2013-01-30 03:47:02 PM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?
Yeah liberals attacking in violent rage never happens

JFK - killed by liberal

Lincoln (Republican) - killed by democrat

MLK (Republican) - killed by democrat

Andrew Joseph Stack III, flew his Piper Dakota into IRS building after posting anti Bush/business manifesto online.

Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski (AKA Uni-bomber) - Left wing eco terrorist Multiple murders and attempted murder

Floyd Lee Corkins II ( liberal gay activist) Entered "Conservative" Family Research Center and opened fire

James Chester Blanning (Planted multiple bombs around Aspen banks) A snippet from his threat:
Do not f*** with us or there will be mass death like we have all been part of over in that f***ing quicksand trap that rove and chaney's monkey bush put us into
*sounds like farkers

Bill Ayers (Obama friend and supporter) "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough."

Carol Anne Burger (writer for the Huffington Post ) - stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver [ thank god she didn't have a gun]
Her final article for huff-po? "Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for. "

John Patrick Bedell (Registered democrat) - Pentagon shooter.

Liberal talk show host Charles Karel Bouley on the air.
"F*** God D*mned Joe the God D*mned Motherf*cking plumber! I want Motherf*cking Joe the plumber dead."

Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church) - Long time fundraiser for and friend of al gore
[www.freedomsphoenix.com image 255x225]


NOW THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE!


11/10
2013-01-30 03:39:29 PM
1 votes:
Charlton Heston is dead... so can't we pry from his cold hands already?
2013-01-30 03:35:43 PM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: natmar_76
2013-01-30 03:02:10 PM

Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.
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We DON'T have a violent society. We have a drug war where organized criminals kill eachother over illicit distribution rights to a product that SHOULD be completely legal, and it's considerably worse South of the border. Get rid of that war and there's no reason to kill anybody over who gets to sell where - that's almost the entire source of violence in America. As for mass shootings, I'm going to be intellectually honest and say that a repeating firearm does in fact make it easy to shoot in rapid manner(kinda the whole point of being a repeater), but I'm also going to make a prediction that this guy is like pretty much every other mass shooter - a social outcast that's been on at least one and maybe more than one type of psychotropic medication, and he just happens to be part of the 1% that that experienced the decreased inhibitions, suicidal tendencies, and violent outbursts that are now known to be associated with such drugs.

This shiat happens in every major country these days, even in countries that have an extreme shortage of guns, so just maybe this is a disease of civilization and there's nothing really that can be done except clean up the mess.
2013-01-30 03:34:13 PM
1 votes:
Ever notice how it's mostly white men doing all the shootings?
2013-01-30 03:30:53 PM
1 votes:

justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?

herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?


When are you going to give me the cite I asked for in the last thread?

As for the "10,000 homicides, more than half of them are suicides and a large percentage of the remainder are criminal-on-criminal. But hey, OUTRAGE! I know, I'll spam the queue with all the automobile deaths, which should leave approximately zero room for anything else. Since we care so much about life and all, and we're not pushing agendas or anything like that.

Anyway, get me that cite, willya? Thanks ever so very much.
2013-01-30 03:28:12 PM
1 votes:
CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

And FTA we have this: "The suspect is a white male, possibly in his 60s." I doubt very much that this was gang related.
2013-01-30 03:26:41 PM
1 votes:
Locked offices could have prevented this.

Turrets mounted on each end of a cube farm that can sense speeding projectiles... could have prevented this.

Wayne LaPierre flying through the air on a cloud of Eagle Feathers painted red, white and blue... could have prevented this.
2013-01-30 03:22:32 PM
1 votes:
Clearly the guns are to blame, we should lock them all up right now!

What a retarded headline.
2013-01-30 03:21:59 PM
1 votes:

Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?


herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?
2013-01-30 03:20:35 PM
1 votes:
Can we please stop with the 'we need to arm or ban' headlines.
They aren't very creative and are being way overused.
2013-01-30 03:20:10 PM
1 votes:

Carn: Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?

You're right. They happen so often, why even report them anymore? Let's all just ignore it and it'll go away.


They also happened before the current media fascination with gun crime. A year ago, someone shooting 3 people in an office complex would have been local news maybe. But News Flash? Nope.

I don't have strong feelings either way on the issue, but I think the current trend of news flashing every time a person is shot is unnecessary.
2013-01-30 03:19:14 PM
1 votes:
natmar_76
2013-01-30 03:02:10 PM

Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.

www.pursuit.eu
2013-01-30 03:18:44 PM
1 votes:
I'm somewhat torn here.

On the one hand, every farking assault and murder in the US making FARK is pretty goddamned annoying, since there are 300+ million of us so even if we were all secretly Ghandi there'd be over 10 of those stories a day.

On the other, at least we're reflecting an actual awareness that there is crime outside the really statistically weird shiat like mass shootings, and outside guns.

On the third hand-sized dexterous appendage (ladies), that story about the dude running over his wife, calling 911, and then curb-stomping her was not good for my mood that day, at least guns are a clean-kill weapon more or less.

Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]


Oh, yes, Somalia and Uganda have less than 5 guns per 100 people, that infographic is totally, definitely using a completely legit source with a solid methodology.
2013-01-30 03:12:16 PM
1 votes:
Is this really news? Why the Newsflash tag?
2013-01-30 03:05:46 PM
1 votes:

Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]


So basically it's not guns that kill people, it's Americans?
2013-01-30 03:04:24 PM
1 votes:

Bartleby the Scrivener: CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

there are some people at my office who are pretty territorial with the copier and the toaster oven since we got it two months ago. it browns up chicken breasts real nice (the toaster oven, not the copier).


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HOW MANY TIMES i GOTTA TELL YOU MUTHERFARKERS: DON'T LEAVE YOUR FARKING FOOD IN THE FARKING MICROWAVE OR I WILL BUST A CAP IN YOUR ASS! AND WHERE'S THAT FARKING TPS REPORT JOHNSON!?!
2013-01-30 03:02:59 PM
1 votes:
If we only banned offices...
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 03:02:10 PM
1 votes:
Every time LaPierre speaks there is a mass shooting.

Correlation = Causation. Shut him up!!!!!
2013-01-30 03:01:15 PM
1 votes:

coont4: Tommy Thompson? Really?


Just don't take the girl
2013-01-30 02:56:50 PM
1 votes:
2013-01-30 02:56:21 PM
1 votes:

KawaiiNot: AZ totes cray!


You are the reason we need to own firearms.
 
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