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(AZ Family) NewsFlash Three people shot in a Phoenix office complex. Clearly, we need to arm every cube dweller from now on   (azfamily.com) divider line 534
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2013-01-30 04:03:47 PM  
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2013-01-30 04:04:00 PM  
ontariolightning

The only way to stop the violence is to greatly impove your social safety net but that means you'd have to kill every republican because they would not allow that.

More fark liberals calling for murder.

Party of peace and tolerance.
 
2013-01-30 04:05:10 PM  

Bullseyed: moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

/you know how I know I am in Texas? my desk drawer has a gun safe built into it.
//And that poor kid was killed who performed at Obama's inaugation
///but universal background checks won't help! We just have to keep the status quo!!!

Almost all shootings happen in blue counties/states.


Coincidental.
High population areas attract crime gangs, mobsters complain to the politicians they sponsor about their victims shooting back, gun laws happen. After these laws are in place, everyone gets happy that something has been done (even if that something has resulted in a worse situation).
 
2013-01-30 04:05:12 PM  

dabbletech: DownDaRiver: Can we please stop with the 'we need to arm or ban' headlines.
They aren't very creative and are being way overused.

I'm afraid we're going to have to ask you to leave.



i877.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-30 04:05:23 PM  

HeadLever: Vodka Zombie: Mija: People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns.

Of course.  And, I'm sure they'll just find something as efficient at killing as a semi-automatic is.

Like...  I don't know...  maybe a fertilizer and diesel fuel hammer?

/depends upon how much time they have.


The problem with bombs is that they are notoriously unreliable.  I'd still much rather use a hammer.  It's not as crazy as using a gun, nor as cowardly as using a bomb.  It's an honest, more personal kill, ya know?  It's like the friendly handshake of mass murders.
 
2013-01-30 04:05:27 PM  
Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.
 
2013-01-30 04:06:07 PM  

PsiChick: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

The whole culture is debating gun control. Fark's not exempt. It  is a newsflash.

/I'd like to think murder\attempted murder would deserve a newsflash on its own...


Yeah, but here (at the very least) it's starting (*snert*) to get ridiculous. Every thread on guns - whether guns are the primary focus, secondary, tertiary or, just for the sheer hell of it, not even part of the initial topic itself and just ended up that way because someone came in and threadshiat - have gone into the high hundreds of posts as each side just ends up fellating the other.

Literally, every topic goes like this: one side or the other comes in first and spends about 25-50 posts harping up their side. Then the other guys come in and spend the same amount of time rebuking it. Then, for the remainder of the duration, each side trades barbs back and forth like two ex's who can't stand being around the other for any longer than it takes to finish their regularly scheduled epic hate-farking sessions.

The gun threads - which used to be amusing and, in some cases, informative - have become what the election threads were for the last two years. Actually, they're worse, because at least in those threads, there was actual humor to be found.
 
2013-01-30 04:06:44 PM  
KNOCK IT OFF, ASSHOLES.
 
2013-01-30 04:07:44 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: paygun: Let's pass a new law, that will change human American nature. It'll work this time, I promise.

Let's not pin our shiat on all of humanity.


It's true, Americans aren't human.
 
2013-01-30 04:07:46 PM  
FlashHarry

OnlyM3: Lincoln (Republican) - killed by democrat conservative

MLK (Republican) - killed by democrat conservative

Sorry, you can have all the opinions you like. What you can't have facts you make up.
Care to post the stats on which party supported and which party opposed the Civil rights act (Hint algore's father did the latter)?
 
2013-01-30 04:07:50 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?

herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?

When are you going to give me the cite I asked for in the last thread?

As for the "10,000 homicides, more than half of them are suicides and a large percentage of the remainder are criminal-on-criminal. But hey, OUTRAGE! I know, I'll spam the queue with all the automobile deaths, which should leave approximately zero room for anything else. Since we care so much about life and all, and we're not pushing agendas or anything like that.

Anyway, get me that cite, willya? Thanks ever so very much.


What cite?
 
2013-01-30 04:07:53 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.


Which report indicated that a Bushmaster model firearm was utilized in the reported incident?
 
2013-01-30 04:08:10 PM  

teeny: KNOCK IT OFF, ASSHOLES.


Gotta get yer killin in now, Obongo is about to usurp our rights to kill people.
 
2013-01-30 04:09:14 PM  
We need to turn this into a hipster thing.

I was mass-shooting before it was cool.
 
2013-01-30 04:09:52 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.


No, we don't feel it. We see your impotent flailing about and generally laugh at you. None of the laws that you think are coming are going to pass. None of them. What's more, you know that we had a nearly-identical law for a decade and it accomplished nothing except the loss of control of Congress for the Democrats, so you actually don't want them to pass anything. You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.
 
2013-01-30 04:09:58 PM  
I think we need to start building "Fun Parks" like they had in Farenheit 451. A place where people can do and actually destroy things in a somewhat controlled environment would do a lot of good in venting the stress that causes these kinds of tragedies. That or it would just provide a place for these nuts to practice.

On the topic of America being a violent culture, as far as I can tell from history, the world-dominant civilization has always been the most violent. It's a strong indicator that violence, while something to be avoided whenever possible by an individual, is a successful trait for a society to have and to hone. Like it or not, America's power is fueled by the power of our military might. It's a strong subtext in our culture that guns equal power. In our culture, when people feel powerless one of the choices available to them is to pick up a gun and create chaos, thus satisfying their want of power. We should make every effort to curtail these kinds of incidents by providing people with more attractive and less deadly methods of regaining their own power. Curtailing freedom, which may be a successful method of reducing these kind of events, is going to do nothing to make this a better society. It's a kneejerk solution to the problem and it will not fix it.
 
2013-01-30 04:10:02 PM  
i5.photobucket.com

Pretty much this.
 
2013-01-30 04:10:09 PM  

Dimensio: Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.

Which report indicated that a Bushmaster model firearm was utilized in the reported incident?


Welcome to the world Fox News built for you - where such facts are irrelevant. Enjoy.
 
2013-01-30 04:10:18 PM  

Outlaw Thirds: Bendal: ariseatex: As an office worker who watched a 20-minute "preventing violence in the workplace" video this morning, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Apparently saying "You're all gonna pay for this!" is frowned upon
//Who knew?
///Slashies come in threes

Just last year we had someone in our building fired for saying that at a job performance review. He said something to the effect of "I'm feeling like snapping and bringing a gun up here" and was escorted immediately off the grounds by the "security" (which is made up of unarmed retirees). The next day his work team refused to show up at work and we were all told to alert security immediately if anyone saw him around the building.

After he was fired, he lost his house, got arrested, was out on bail, got arrested in another state, out on bail again, and then blew his head off with a shotgun.

/no mental evaluation was ever made for him
//it was recommended though when he was fired
///fat lot of good that did for him

So a guy that said he was ready to snap actually snapped, and they did the right thing by firing him and alerting security?


Wouldnt it be nice if there was some sort of federally funded program that could step in, put this guy under evaluation, talk to him about his problems and find actual solutions to whats really farking with his head? If he's stressed or just chemically unbalanced maybe some free mood stabilizers and monthly checkups that he cant legally turn down as long as he appears to be a danger maybe?

Or just fark him, turn him into a social pariah until he kills himself and or others? Liberal American logic
 
2013-01-30 04:11:12 PM  

paygun: HotWingConspiracy: paygun: Let's pass a new law, that will change human American nature. It'll work this time, I promise.

Let's not pin our shiat on all of humanity.

It's true, Americans aren't human.


I learned today that we have 40x more flame retardant chemical residue in our blood than anyone else on the planet, so we seem to be evolving in to some fire proof species that feeds only on HFCS.
 
2013-01-30 04:11:16 PM  

Dimensio: Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.

Which report indicated that a Bushmaster model firearm was utilized in the reported incident?


I'm pretty sure Jesus was just talking in general terms and not really talking about this particular incident.

You probably know that too, though.
 
2013-01-30 04:11:32 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Mija: People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns.

Of course.  And, I'm sure they'll just find something as efficient at killing as a semi-automatic is.

Like...  I don't know...  maybe a hammer?


or a car? or gasoline? bombs are easy as fark to make seriously bro, your logic is bad here.

you know how much background checks they do on a beater off of craigslist and as much gas as you could buy with what a pistol costs?

seriously dude, i know americans are dumb and there schools suck, but i bet there are at least a few left who know basic chemistry...
 
2013-01-30 04:11:33 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


That is what happens in normal countries...
 
2013-01-30 04:12:00 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Dimensio: Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.

Which report indicated that a Bushmaster model firearm was utilized in the reported incident?

Welcome to the world Fox News built for you - where such facts are irrelevant. Enjoy.


I have little concern for any creations of Fox News.

You did not address my question.
 
2013-01-30 04:12:12 PM  

Carn: Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?

You're right. They happen so often, why even report them anymore? Let's all just ignore it and it'll go away.


And yet you are not posting news flashes for rape. Why do you like rape so much?
 
2013-01-30 04:12:12 PM  
i mean really, they seem to have an easy enough time making meth.
 
2013-01-30 04:12:28 PM  

Sid_the_sadist: The problem is there is no deterrent from being a murdering cock-sucker. If a guy can kill 26 people, 20 of which are children, and get 3 hot meals, a bed, heat, water, cable tv, and sell his story to the highest bidder, where is the punishment?


You know, you're right. We should totally dig that guy up and hang him on the 50-yard line, instead of digging him up and giving him three hot meals, a bed, heat, and water that won't do anything except make him smell worse because HE ALREADY FARKING KILLED HIMSELF.

/Poe's law doesn't seem to stop anybody, either
 
2013-01-30 04:12:39 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.


I don't really give a rat's ass either way, I only know that whatever enrages the RIght is good for America.

Enjoy.
 
2013-01-30 04:13:38 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: I'm getting really tired of resetting the Too Soon To Talk About It clock.


Nothing to reset; we've never stopped talking about it.
 
2013-01-30 04:13:50 PM  
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

/nuff said
 
2013-01-30 04:13:51 PM  
It has been 0 DAYS since our last mass shooting.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:05 PM  

justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?

herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?

When are you going to give me the cite I asked for in the last thread?

As for the "10,000 homicides, more than half of them are suicides and a large percentage of the remainder are criminal-on-criminal. But hey, OUTRAGE! I know, I'll spam the queue with all the automobile deaths, which should leave approximately zero room for anything else. Since we care so much about life and all, and we're not pushing agendas or anything like that.

Anyway, get me that cite, willya? Thanks ever so very much.

What cite?


Lets clarify the~10k does not include suicides. That would put the number at roughly 30-40k. I can see why you want cites being so woefully ignorant.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:08 PM  

MrEricSir: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

You're right, mass shootings are completely normally and non-newsworthy.


people have been getting murdered every day on most countries, and definitely this one, forever. this is not a mass shooting ti s a disgruntled employee or a personal affair brought to the workplace. the cops said it is not random.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:10 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Adolf Oliver Nipples: You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.

I don't really give a rat's ass either way, I only know that whatever enrages the RIght is good for America.

Enjoy.


I enjoy the fact that you are enraged that I have a collection of weapons and ammunition.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:35 PM  
That's definitely not the way to end a mediation session.
Not if you want to win.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:42 PM  

coeyagi: China White Tea: natmar_76: Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society.

I really liked all of the, "He had it coming," and "good riddance," type of comments coming from the anti-gun crowd after the FPSRussia guy got murdered. Large swaths of Americans are more than happy to revel in the death of anyone they find suitably offensive.

I am pretty sure people on both sides of the argument love it when someone dies. But thanks for playing, Captain Anecdotal Evidence.


Good job responding to an argument I didn't actually posit, Captain Strawman Argument.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:56 PM  

Outlaw Thirds: Bendal: ariseatex: As an office worker who watched a 20-minute "preventing violence in the workplace" video this morning, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Apparently saying "You're all gonna pay for this!" is frowned upon
//Who knew?
///Slashies come in threes

Just last year we had someone in our building fired for saying that at a job performance review. He said something to the effect of "I'm feeling like snapping and bringing a gun up here" and was escorted immediately off the grounds by the "security" (which is made up of unarmed retirees). The next day his work team refused to show up at work and we were all told to alert security immediately if anyone saw him around the building.

After he was fired, he lost his house, got arrested, was out on bail, got arrested in another state, out on bail again, and then blew his head off with a shotgun.

/no mental evaluation was ever made for him
//it was recommended though when he was fired
///fat lot of good that did for him

So a guy that said he was ready to snap actually snapped, and they did the right thing by firing him and alerting security?


Depends. Did he snap because he was fired, lost his house, his wife divorced him (forgot that part), and was arrested twice, or was the firing what caused him to snap months later?

Seems to me the "right thing to do" when someone says "he was ready to snap" isn't throw him on the street, where he's almost certain to snap, but to make sure he gets some mental health help so he doesn't snap.

/just saying "go get help" doesn't help, either
//that's what the firing board recommended
///after they fired him, that is
 
2013-01-30 04:14:59 PM  

H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said


that's some brand of stupid you're sporting there
 
2013-01-30 04:15:17 PM  

Clutch2013: PsiChick: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

The whole culture is debating gun control. Fark's not exempt. It  is a newsflash.

/I'd like to think murder\attempted murder would deserve a newsflash on its own...

Yeah, but here (at the very least) it's starting (*snert*) to get ridiculous. Every thread on guns - whether guns are the primary focus, secondary, tertiary or, just for the sheer hell of it, not even part of the initial topic itself and just ended up that way because someone came in and threadshiat - have gone into the high hundreds of posts as each side just ends up fellating the other.

Literally, every topic goes like this: one side or the other comes in first and spends about 25-50 posts harping up their side. Then the other guys come in and spend the same amount of time rebuking it. Then, for the remainder of the duration, each side trades barbs back and forth like two ex's who can't stand being around the other for any longer than it takes to finish their regularly scheduled epic hate-farking sessions.

The gun threads - which used to be amusing and, in some cases, informative - have become what the election threads were for the last two years. Actually, they're worse, because at least in those threads, there was actual humor to be found.


Something I learned pretty early after being diagnosed with Asperger's is that there actually is no point to trying to force everyone to stick to topics you like. Some topics should not show up on Fark, because the majority of Fark ends up acting like rabid animals (misogyny and fattie threads, anyone?), but a gun thread? Everyone's having fun, airing their viewpoint, and there's no more asshattery than usual. I'm all for getting rid of unoriginality, but at some point you have to accept that not only are you not going to win, there's no point starting the fight. There's other threads, and nobody's really doing anything horrible in this one. Just skip over if you're bored.
 
2013-01-30 04:15:51 PM  

justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?

herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?

When are you going to give me the cite I asked for in the last thread?

As for the "10,000 homicides, more than half of them are suicides and a large percentage of the remainder are criminal-on-criminal. But hey, OUTRAGE! I know, I'll spam the queue with all the automobile deaths, which should leave approximately zero room for anything else. Since we care so much about life and all, and we're not pushing agendas or anything like that.

Anyway, get me that cite, willya? Thanks ever so very much.

What cite?


The one that substantiates the claim you made here.

"But but i thought guns are easy enough to make and if they werent available criminals would just make explosives. Are you now saying that was a total lie? No..... Couldnt be.... "

You said that they make the claim in every thread. So, until such time as you admit that you're talking out of your ass or substantiate it, every time you respond to me I'm going to ask for it. Since you respond to me in every recent gun-related thread like some kind of stalker, I shouldn't be that hard to find when you're ready to put up or shut up.
 
2013-01-30 04:16:18 PM  
So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

I mean, more people than that are killed in Chicago on a daily basis, same goes for Baltimore and DC. But it's suddenly something horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot and not a crack house or down by the docks?
 
2013-01-30 04:17:04 PM  

H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said



www.cityhyd.info
Is not amused by your suggestion that she be outlawed.



/Gunfappers
//Too stupid to spell
 
2013-01-30 04:17:10 PM  

PsiChick: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

The whole culture is debating gun control. Fark's not exempt. It  is a newsflash.

/I'd like to think murder\attempted murder would deserve a newsflash on its own...


Funny that it's only guns, only recently and things like killings without guns and/or killing by police officers goes by without so much as a greenlight, much less a newsflash. Remember the link about the LV cop who murdered his wife and son, then killed himself? Neither do I.
 
2013-01-30 04:17:48 PM  
Oh, no, no, do not arm me, I deal with annoying sales people (my colleagues) multiple times a day. I would very quickly become a statistic.

Or do they give you gifts for ventilating salescritters these days?
 
gja
2013-01-30 04:18:09 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.


Ah, there it is. The 'male member' analogy fail.
When you have no creative, rational, and cognizant thought, inject anatomical comparos.
 
2013-01-30 04:18:39 PM  

jfarkinB: Sid_the_sadist: The problem is there is no deterrent from being a murdering cock-sucker. If a guy can kill 26 people, 20 of which are children, and get 3 hot meals, a bed, heat, water, cable tv, and sell his story to the highest bidder, where is the punishment?

You know, you're right. We should totally dig that guy up and hang him on the 50-yard line, instead of digging him up and giving him three hot meals, a bed, heat, and water that won't do anything except make him smell worse because HE ALREADY FARKING KILLED HIMSELF.

/Poe's law doesn't seem to stop anybody, either


To follow up:
www.abc.net.au
Does this guy really look like he could give a shiat on how you punish him?
How about this guy?
www.rippdemup.com
You cant convince these guys to do shiat other than hopefully take their meds. Which they didnt.
 
2013-01-30 04:18:42 PM  

MichiganFTL: [i5.photobucket.com image 550x300]

Pretty much this.


you get TF because I quote that scene daily
 
2013-01-30 04:18:49 PM  

Propain_az: Insatiable Jesus: Adolf Oliver Nipples: You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.

I don't really give a rat's ass either way, I only know that whatever enrages the RIght is good for America.

Enjoy.

I enjoy the fact that you are enraged that I have a collection of weapons and ammunition.


I am not enraged, I am amused by adults who still play army.

/plenty well armed
 
2013-01-30 04:18:56 PM  
The common thread I see in all the shootings is that the perp drove there... So, if we ban cars for everyone but the government and police, because who really needs a car, we should all be safer. Let's see someone trying to pull off a bus by shooting.
 
2013-01-30 04:19:08 PM  

H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said


why have any laws, amirite?
 
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