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(AZ Family) NewsFlash Three people shot in a Phoenix office complex. Clearly, we need to arm every cube dweller from now on   (azfamily.com) divider line 534
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2013-01-30 01:22:45 PM  
Go ahead, take my red staple - see what happens!


/seriously, this is sad stuff
//get a grip, America
 
2013-01-30 01:29:21 PM  
Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.
 
2013-01-30 01:38:02 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Go ahead, take my red staple - see what happens!


/seriously, this is sad stuff
//get a grip, America


Exactly.  Arson is much more effective in such a case.
 
2013-01-30 02:00:15 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.


I knew it!  the turf war between the PC Load Letters and the BSODs has spilled out into the open!
 
2013-01-30 02:08:34 PM  
I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.
 
2013-01-30 02:21:38 PM  

netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.


This is Arizona. No such thing as a gun-free zone. (Legally, maybe, but we likes our guns 'round here, boy.)

It's not like this is a rare occurrence. My husband has witnessed two workplace shootings in Phoenix. One outside a transmission shop in Sunnyslope while he was on his way to pick up his mom when her car broke down, and one right next to his workplace as he was pulling into the parking lot. I'm sure he's relieved he didn't have to see this one.
 
2013-01-30 02:55:28 PM  
AZ totes cray!
 
2013-01-30 02:55:59 PM  
Administration agents pulling in overtime.

Keep 'em coming, spooks! The tide is almost turned.
 
2013-01-30 02:56:19 PM  
I am numb to this
 
2013-01-30 02:56:21 PM  

KawaiiNot: AZ totes cray!


You are the reason we need to own firearms.
 
2013-01-30 02:56:27 PM  

netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.


No, it's because we took God out of the cubicles.

/your team is just as retarded as mine.
 
2013-01-30 02:56:32 PM  
Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.
 
2013-01-30 02:56:34 PM  
Solution: Moar guns!

/Glad to not be 'Merican.
 
2013-01-30 02:56:50 PM  
 
2013-01-30 02:57:10 PM  
"PC Load Letter"? What the fark does that mean?!?!
 
2013-01-30 02:57:12 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Administration agents pulling in overtime.

Keep 'em coming, spooks! The tide is almost turned.


notsureifpotato.jpg
 
2013-01-30 02:57:30 PM  
We don't need to arm every cube dweller, but there is no reason those who are allowed to CC legally shouldn't be armed if they want to be.
 
2013-01-30 02:57:33 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

I knew it!  the turf war between the PC Load Letters and the BSODs has spilled out into the open!


I blame the schools.
 
2013-01-30 02:57:35 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

/NEVER FORGET
 
2013-01-30 02:57:45 PM  
Why is this even news?

"Some Americans shot some other Americans" is as much news as "Some Frenchman drank a glass of wine"

It's just what they do...
 
2013-01-30 02:57:57 PM  
Tommy Thompson? Really?
 
2013-01-30 02:58:30 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.


there are some people at my office who are pretty territorial with the copier and the toaster oven since we got it two months ago. it browns up chicken breasts real nice (the toaster oven, not the copier).
 
2013-01-30 02:58:34 PM  
That'll teach them to leave off the new TPS report cover sheet.
 
2013-01-30 02:58:59 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Administration agents pulling in overtime.

Keep 'em coming, spooks! The tide is almost turned.


I think you missed a dose.
 
2013-01-30 02:59:01 PM  
In other news: Teenage female who played at President Obamas inauguration shot dead.
 
2013-01-30 02:59:15 PM  

Stitch Jones: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 300x250]

/NEVER FORGET


I poured out a 40 in memory of OG HK.
 
2013-01-30 02:59:16 PM  
This is clearly the fault of video games, films and that eeeevil rap music.
 
2013-01-30 02:59:37 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Go ahead, take my red staple - see what happens!


/seriously, this is sad stuff
//get a grip, America


I see that I was beaten to an "Office Space" reference. And by a large margin, too.
 
2013-01-30 02:59:46 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


Helps the Fark agenda.
 
2013-01-30 02:59:46 PM  
It must be the heat.
 
2013-01-30 02:59:58 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.


Obviously the guy has been watching a Jason Statham movie

Time to ban Jason Statham movies.
 
GBB
2013-01-30 03:00:10 PM  
jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-30 03:00:29 PM  
They should've given him back his red stapler. But they wouldn't listen...
 
2013-01-30 03:00:43 PM  
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-01-30 03:00:51 PM  
Mounting one of these in my cubicle...

www.geekalerts.com
 
2013-01-30 03:01:00 PM  

Stitch Jones: /NEVER FORGET


Hell, I don't think a hundred LODs could have helped in this case... but I'd like to see him try.
 
2013-01-30 03:01:15 PM  

coont4: Tommy Thompson? Really?


Just don't take the girl
 
GBB
2013-01-30 03:01:22 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


Hey, whatever it takes to let everyone know that mass murder-suicide is the best method....
 
2013-01-30 03:01:33 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.


Ohhhhhhhh I see.... I was going to suggest stricter gun-control laws, but if this is gang related then nevermind!

/dipsh*t indeed
 
2013-01-30 03:01:56 PM  

TXEric: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Helps the Fark agenda.


Which is?

//Hint: Page hits and ad revenue.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 03:02:10 PM  
Every time LaPierre speaks there is a mass shooting.

Correlation = Causation. Shut him up!!!!!
 
2013-01-30 03:02:10 PM  
Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.
 
2013-01-30 03:02:33 PM  
The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

/you know how I know I am in Texas? my desk drawer has a gun safe built into it.
//And that poor kid was killed who performed at Obama's inaugation
///but universal background checks won't help! We just have to keep the status quo!!!
 
2013-01-30 03:02:39 PM  
You libs are driving me nuts! I bet the mayor of Phoenix has armed security, farking hippocrits.
 
2013-01-30 03:02:41 PM  

KawaiiNot: AZ totes cray!


It's the heat.

It's also Phoenix, the sweaty undertaint of America.
 
2013-01-30 03:02:51 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

I knew it!  the turf war between the PC Load Letters and the BSODs has spilled out into the open!


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

"Die, motherfarker! Die, motherfarker! Die!"
 
2013-01-30 03:02:59 PM  
If we only banned offices...
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 03:03:08 PM  

meat0918: TXEric: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Helps the Fark agenda.

Which is?

//Hint: Page hits and ad revenue.


Fark agenda: Make you keep hitting F5 so you can see more snorg girls.
 
2013-01-30 03:03:20 PM  
Right now one of the principals has his AR on his desk and another guy brought in his new .40 to show off. We like our firearms in this office.
 
2013-01-30 03:03:27 PM  
Subby, I agree.
 
2013-01-30 03:03:42 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


There's an agenda to be pursued here dammit!
 
2013-01-30 03:04:05 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Go ahead, take my red staple - see what happens!


/seriously, this is sad stuff
//get a grip, America

Exactly.  Arson is much more effective in such a case.


You could always put strychnine in the guacamole.
 
2013-01-30 03:04:24 PM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

there are some people at my office who are pretty territorial with the copier and the toaster oven since we got it two months ago. it browns up chicken breasts real nice (the toaster oven, not the copier).


image.shutterstock.com

HOW MANY TIMES i GOTTA TELL YOU MUTHERFARKERS: DON'T LEAVE YOUR FARKING FOOD IN THE FARKING MICROWAVE OR I WILL BUST A CAP IN YOUR ASS! AND WHERE'S THAT FARKING TPS REPORT JOHNSON!?!
 
2013-01-30 03:04:42 PM  
If no armed security at Office entrance, why not have a pistol handy? Sane, Gentle People don't pose any threat to an attacker unless armed. Also, the Same Sane, Gentle people pose no threat to others, even when armed.
 
2013-01-30 03:04:52 PM  
My nearby coworker wants to BAN all GUNS! His cubicle is NOT ARMED! Out of respect for his opinion I promise NOT to use MY GUNS to PROTECT HIM.
 
2013-01-30 03:04:58 PM  

moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

/you know how I know I am in Texas? my desk drawer has a gun safe built into it.
//And that poor kid was killed who performed at Obama's inaugation
///but universal background checks won't help! We just have to keep the status quo!!!


It an extension of the "Liberal plants are killing people to help further the UN takeover and gungrabber agenda" crowd.
 
2013-01-30 03:05:09 PM  
Just like we have that list of things that are a threat to America (someone or some people on this site own it), we need a list of people and things that require armed security/metal detectors.

Elementary schools
Movie theaters
Army bases
Shopping malls
Single family houses
Apartment units
Cars
Postmen,
Etc.
 
2013-01-30 03:05:13 PM  

moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?


Wait, a year ago conservative commenter said angry liberals were filthy hobos who sat in the streets all day to protest banks. Now they've all gotten jobs and are shooting people?

Something doesn't add up here.
 
2013-01-30 03:05:21 PM  
We just need to post armed sheriff deputies at the entrance to ever office building and everything will be fine.
 
2013-01-30 03:05:46 PM  

Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]


So basically it's not guns that kill people, it's Americans?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 03:06:04 PM  

pedrop357: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

There's an agenda to be pursued here dammit!


duh dum DUuuuu! The FARK AGENDA!
 
2013-01-30 03:06:34 PM  
Shouldn't have taken his red stapler.
 
2013-01-30 03:06:35 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


You're right, mass shootings are completely normally and non-newsworthy.
 
2013-01-30 03:06:43 PM  

natmar_76: The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.


See, now we're getting down to the heart of the matter. I had always thought PEOPLE were the problem behind all this violence. Guns just sit there idle until some nutter picks one up and starts blasting away with it.

That other article on Fark, with the 5 common-sense ideas, includes people as one of the major components to curbing gun violence. Sure, limiting access to guns will help, but it won't fix the core problem. I mean, what does it say about our culture where shootings and blood and other mayhem is perfectly OK on prime-time TV, but YOU JUST SHOW ONE NIPPLE AND EVERYONE LOSES THEIR shiat!!!

We've got some messed-up priorities.
 
2013-01-30 03:06:49 PM  
There are three boxes open in the Super Bowl pool.
 
2013-01-30 03:06:59 PM  
Well, you'd better be ready if your employees aren't sufficiently gruntled:

dilbert.com

dilbert.com

dilbert.com

dilbert.com
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 03:07:04 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: Just like we have that list of things that are a threat to America (someone or some people on this site own it), we need a list of people and things that require armed security/metal detectors.

Elementary schools
Movie theaters
Army bases
Shopping malls
Single family houses
Apartment units
Cars
Postmen,
Etc.


Dollhouses
Doghouses
Port-o-Johns
Key Kiosks
 
2013-01-30 03:07:14 PM  
Hmm. Seems a sort of saturation point has been reached.

Time to ease off the incidents for a while.

Stand down, agents.
 
2013-01-30 03:07:17 PM  
From now on I'm going to assume that every mass shooting in America was perpetrated by UN operatives in cahoots with the Shartbama administration, with the ultimate goal of confiscating all of our guns, destroying American sovereignty and supremacy, and transforming our land into an Islamosocialist dystopia.
 
2013-01-30 03:07:19 PM  

Stitch Jones: /NEVER FORGET


I pretty much need that on a T shirt
 
2013-01-30 03:08:34 PM  
Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 03:09:05 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: From now on I'm going to assume that every mass shooting in America was perpetrated by UN operatives in cahoots with the Shartbama administration, with the ultimate goal of confiscating all of our guns, destroying American sovereignty and supremacy, and transforming our land into an Islamosocialist dystopia.


An *Atheist* Islamofacist dystopia. Get it right. jessh...
 
2013-01-30 03:09:47 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


well, let's set a threshold then. what's newsworthy? five shot? ten? fifteen? what's the NRA-approved number that indicates a "mass" shooting?
 
2013-01-30 03:09:49 PM  

d23: meat0918: TXEric: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Helps the Fark agenda.

Which is?

//Hint: Page hits and ad revenue.

Fark agenda: Make you keep hitting F5 so you can see more snorg girls.


T-shirt Ashley: Terrorist?

/i knew those couldn't be mere breasts in those shirts
 
2013-01-30 03:10:23 PM  

MrEricSir: moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

Wait, a year ago conservative commenter said angry liberals were filthy hobos who sat in the streets all day to protest banks. Now they've all gotten jobs and are shooting people?

Something doesn't add up here.


We laugh, but only because the ability of Conservatives to blame the failures of their own policies in anybody but themselves has become so pervasive and transparent.
 
2013-01-30 03:11:10 PM  

Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?


You're right. They happen so often, why even report them anymore? Let's all just ignore it and it'll go away.
 
2013-01-30 03:12:02 PM  

MrEricSir: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

You're right, mass shootings are completely normally and non-newsworthy.


If we just don't talk about them they'll go away. Just like the ghost in Paranormal Activity.
 
2013-01-30 03:12:09 PM  
As an AZ cube dweller who is at this very moment legally armed, I'm getting a kick out of this headline.
 
2013-01-30 03:12:14 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: From now on I'm going to assume that every mass shooting in America was perpetrated by UN operatives in cahoots with the Shartbama administration


WILLIAM F*CKING SHATBAMANER

/don't know why that got in my head, but there you go
//I blame Obama
 
2013-01-30 03:12:16 PM  
Is this really news? Why the Newsflash tag?
 
2013-01-30 03:12:52 PM  

meat0918: moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

/you know how I know I am in Texas? my desk drawer has a gun safe built into it.
//And that poor kid was killed who performed at Obama's inaugation
///but universal background checks won't help! We just have to keep the status quo!!!

It an extension of the "Liberal plants are killing people to help further the UN takeover and gungrabber agenda" crowd.


Riiiiiight. I need to update my conspiracy theory list. These people are starting to scare me.
 
2013-01-30 03:13:38 PM  
we need to ban Phoenix, offices, people
 
2013-01-30 03:13:46 PM  

Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?


WayneKerr: Is this really news? Why the Newsflash tag?


styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


mass shootings are regular events, people! they're not news! welcome to wayne la pierre's america!
 
2013-01-30 03:13:46 PM  
 
2013-01-30 03:14:20 PM  
You know, if everyone had their own cubicle, this wouldn't have happened. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a cubicle is a good guy with a cubicle. We shouldn't move towards universal background checks for cubicles because criminals who want cubicles will get them. You can pry my cubicle from my cold dead hands.
 
2013-01-30 03:14:25 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?
 
2013-01-30 03:14:27 PM  

MrEricSir: moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

Wait, a year ago conservative commenter said angry liberals were filthy hobos who sat in the streets all day to protest banks. Now they've all gotten jobs and are shooting people?

Something doesn't add up here.


Kompetanz In-kompetanz?

/abuse of a German legal phrase which doesn't really apply here, but it amused me.
 
2013-01-30 03:16:13 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

I knew it!  the turf war between the PC Load Letters and the BSODs has spilled out into the open!


And here I thought its was between the PDFs and XLSs....
 
2013-01-30 03:16:35 PM  

FlashHarry: Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?

WayneKerr: Is this really news? Why the Newsflash tag?

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

mass shootings are regular events, people! they're not news! welcome to wayne la pierre's america!


Exactly: The point is that this would be news in a civilised country. The fact that people are bleating it isn't news because it happens loads IS THE PROBLEM.
 
2013-01-30 03:16:39 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


Yes.
 
2013-01-30 03:16:45 PM  
I'm getting really tired of resetting the Too Soon To Talk About It clock.
 
2013-01-30 03:17:43 PM  
Are we still struggling to come to terms with technological advancement and human nature people?
 
2013-01-30 03:17:59 PM  
Just more responsible gun owners being responsible.
 
2013-01-30 03:18:01 PM  
inb4 red stapler
 
2013-01-30 03:18:44 PM  
I'm somewhat torn here.

On the one hand, every farking assault and murder in the US making FARK is pretty goddamned annoying, since there are 300+ million of us so even if we were all secretly Ghandi there'd be over 10 of those stories a day.

On the other, at least we're reflecting an actual awareness that there is crime outside the really statistically weird shiat like mass shootings, and outside guns.

On the third hand-sized dexterous appendage (ladies), that story about the dude running over his wife, calling 911, and then curb-stomping her was not good for my mood that day, at least guns are a clean-kill weapon more or less.

Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]


Oh, yes, Somalia and Uganda have less than 5 guns per 100 people, that infographic is totally, definitely using a completely legit source with a solid methodology.
 
2013-01-30 03:18:45 PM  

d23: Fark agenda: Make you keep hitting F5 so you can see more snorg girls.


I'd say that agenda really doesn't need any additional help. Jeebus, I don't know where they got that one redhead, but JEEBUS....
 
2013-01-30 03:19:14 PM  
natmar_76
2013-01-30 03:02:10 PM

Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.

www.pursuit.eu
 
2013-01-30 03:19:43 PM  
www.virtualstapler.com
 
2013-01-30 03:20:10 PM  

Carn: Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?

You're right. They happen so often, why even report them anymore? Let's all just ignore it and it'll go away.


They also happened before the current media fascination with gun crime. A year ago, someone shooting 3 people in an office complex would have been local news maybe. But News Flash? Nope.

I don't have strong feelings either way on the issue, but I think the current trend of news flashing every time a person is shot is unnecessary.
 
2013-01-30 03:20:26 PM  
If the man was Muslim, it's just typical work place violence. Nothing to see here, folks.
 
2013-01-30 03:20:35 PM  
Can we please stop with the 'we need to arm or ban' headlines.
They aren't very creative and are being way overused.
 
2013-01-30 03:20:40 PM  
It's getting hard to keep track of these. It's the new norm.
 
2013-01-30 03:20:42 PM  

Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]


There is at least one country in the 50-75 bracket, with the US being the only one in the 75+ bracket.

If that country in the 50-75 is at 75, and the US is at 76, then there certainly is a country to compare to the US.

Poorly done graphic is poorly done.

/Not that I disagree with its summary
//Just that the data it presents doesn't conclusively show what it claims to
 
2013-01-30 03:21:38 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.



Yeah, every time I have a mancation/staycation at the Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak Resort, the thing that drags me down are the roving gangs busting caps in my ass and trying to "turn me out".
 
2013-01-30 03:21:52 PM  
They should make shooting people illegal.

Then things like this won't happen anymore.
 
2013-01-30 03:21:55 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Oh, yes, Somalia and Uganda have less than 5 guns per 100 people, that infographic is totally, definitely using a completely legit source with a solid methodology.


Uh, do you really think it would help the NRA's cause to be lumped in as a country with Somalia and Uganda? I'd say they're doing the paranoid crazies a favor by undercounting. It would look worse otherwise.
 
2013-01-30 03:21:59 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?


herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?
 
2013-01-30 03:22:12 PM  

Nina Haagen Dazs: It's getting hard to keep track of these. It's the new norm.


according to pro-gun farkers, it is. it doesn't even warrant a news flash!
 
2013-01-30 03:22:30 PM  

natmar_76: Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.


SO MUCH THIS
 
2013-01-30 03:22:32 PM  
Clearly the guns are to blame, we should lock them all up right now!

What a retarded headline.
 
2013-01-30 03:22:43 PM  
So who is the first to file a grievance to HR for a

**takes off sunglasses**

Hostile workplace


YEAAHHHHHHHH
 
2013-01-30 03:22:57 PM  

netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.


only 5 posts in before someone made this comment. ok, i'm convinced you people are just trolling me now.

\FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU
 
2013-01-30 03:23:21 PM  
As an office worker who watched a 20-minute "preventing violence in the workplace" video this morning, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Apparently saying "You're all gonna pay for this!" is frowned upon
//Who knew?
///Slashies come in threes
 
2013-01-30 03:24:16 PM  

d23: meat0918: TXEric: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Helps the Fark agenda.

Which is?

//Hint: Page hits and ad revenue.

Fark agenda: Make you keep hitting F5 so you can see more snorg girls.


Just GIS Ashley Pridgen and you are good to go for life
 
2013-01-30 03:24:42 PM  
Also churches. We need to make sure every church has guns and firebombs.
 
2013-01-30 03:24:57 PM  

Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]


Awesome.
USA! USA! USA!

I have 4.
.22, .30-.30 , .30-.06 , 12GA Pump
 
2013-01-30 03:25:31 PM  
Bring back the farking death penalty, and I mean the real one, in mass shootings.
That farker from Ft. Hood, the waste of flesh from Newtown, that "joker" dipshiat from CO.

We know they did it. There is no reasonable doubt. Death! No appeals, no farking books, no movies, no interviews on tv, no last meal, fark all that, kill 'em.

The problem is there is no deterrent from being a murdering cock-sucker. If a guy can kill 26 people, 20 of which are children, and get 3 hot meals, a bed, heat, water, cable tv, and sell his story to the highest bidder, where is the punishment? I've been deployed twice, once to Iraq, once to Afghanistan, and farking criminals live and eat better than I did. That's bullshiat!

I guaran-goddamned-tee you that if those farkers were lined up and hung on the 50 yard line during halftime at the Super Bowl people would think twice about going on a killing spree. fark all this bleeding-heart "if we do that we're no better than them" shiat. We are better than them. We don't arbitrarily murder innocent people, and they have no place whatsoever in our society, bury the bastards and move on.

You want to see mass shootings and gun violence in general decline? Punish the motherfarkers who commit those crimes. In public. Permanently.
 
2013-01-30 03:25:55 PM  
So another crazy white guy shot up the place...otherwise known as day ending in "Y". And no, dont let us arm the cube dwellers. I'm pretty sure i work with people that would love to have a shotgun/handguns/Hunting knives in their cube to protect themselves from the evil doers of the suburbs our office is in.
 
2013-01-30 03:26:22 PM  
The comments on that site are priceless.
You've got the rational leftwingers and then you have the card(communist?) carrying gun nuts who want to join in the crossfire so badly that they wet their pants thinking of pumping some guy full of hot material.

/So we now will ban anyone over 60 from having a gun.
//And anyone that votes republican shall also be banned from having a gun.
///As per the mental health act that was just approved by the senate and congress and President Obama signed.
///Enjoy your jail time you republican facebook nutters.
 
2013-01-30 03:26:41 PM  
Locked offices could have prevented this.

Turrets mounted on each end of a cube farm that can sense speeding projectiles... could have prevented this.

Wayne LaPierre flying through the air on a cloud of Eagle Feathers painted red, white and blue... could have prevented this.
 
2013-01-30 03:26:43 PM  

FlashHarry: Nina Haagen Dazs: It's getting hard to keep track of these. It's the new norm.

according to pro-gun farkers, it is. it doesn't even warrant a news flash!


Well, they are all beginning to blend together. I don't think I've seen an original thought/comment/ response since the 3rd or 4th shooting. Sad. Sad and scary.
 
2013-01-30 03:27:00 PM  

Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?


Someone will start a "shooting channel", all shootings all the time, mark my words.
 
2013-01-30 03:27:20 PM  

JGolbez: Solution: Moar guns!

/Glad to not be 'Merican.


Then STFU
 
2013-01-30 03:27:32 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


I'm glad that this has already been covered.
Guess what, America is a very violent country. If you don't want to stick around, Delta is ready when you are!

I'm all for trying to stop the violence, but I'm not going to give up my right to inflict violence on someone who is trying to inflict violence upon me. When we've made significant progress towards addressing the lunatics, whackos, crazy people, and drugged up coke-heads, I'll start looking at packing away my small collection. Until then, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to ensure that every office building has two or three people carrying, sane enough, and responsible enough to use force properly. Unless they're attacking a donut shop, the bad guys will beat the police to the crime scene every time.
 
2013-01-30 03:27:39 PM  

FlashHarry: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

well, let's set a threshold then. what's newsworthy? five shot? ten? fifteen? what's the NRA-approved number that indicates a "mass" shooting?


How about a new tab? Not a Gun? Second Amendment? Guns? Gunz? It could go right next to the Politics tab.
 
2013-01-30 03:27:48 PM  

rrife: Subby, I agree.


there would be a lot more people shot in the heat of passion. yeah, great idea.
 
2013-01-30 03:27:58 PM  

rickythepenguin: CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.


Yeah, every time I have a mancation/staycation at the Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak Resort, the thing that drags me down are the roving gangs busting caps in my ass and trying to "turn me out" yelling "Next time, stay at the Phoenician!"


FTFY
 
2013-01-30 03:27:58 PM  
My wife is clinic director of a PT clinic. Both she and one of the secretaries has a CCW and carries in the office. They had a patient come in one time who had a CCW and was carrying. Instead of anybody flipping out, they had a nice conversation about what type of weapon it was (Glock), how he liked it, and if he thought it made a good carry piece.

We've joked about making a sign for the door of the clinic that said "CCW and Open Carry Welcome Here" to counteract the "No Weapons" signs you typically in medical offices.

Here in NC the state will grant a permit to own a fully automatic rifle only under a few circumstances. One of those is to protect a place of business. I've daydreamed about getting a permit and a machine gun, but can't really justify the expense.

// Yes, cube dwellers should be allowed to be armed at work when properly trained and permitted according to state and federal law.
 
2013-01-30 03:28:03 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?

Someone will start a "shooting channel", all shootings all the time, mark my words.


On the phone with my venture capitalist now... thanks Karm!
 
2013-01-30 03:28:07 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


pedrop357: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

There's an agenda to be pursued here dammit!


Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?


WayneKerr: Is this really news? Why the Newsflash tag?



Translation:
i99.photobucket.com

There's nothing going on here folks. You people are looking for problems that don't exist.
 
2013-01-30 03:28:11 PM  

DownTheRabbitHole: natmar_76: Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.

SO MUCH THIS


The problem with changing the culture is that no one can agree on which culture we should change to.
 
2013-01-30 03:28:12 PM  
CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

And FTA we have this: "The suspect is a white male, possibly in his 60s." I doubt very much that this was gang related.
 
2013-01-30 03:28:13 PM  
If only we'd banned assault weapons...
 
2013-01-30 03:28:31 PM  
And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and they were merry, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire...
 
2013-01-30 03:29:51 PM  

BHShaman: Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]

Awesome.
USA! USA! USA!

I have 4.
.22, .30-.30 , .30-.06 , 12GA Pump


Funny, I had the exact same arsenal growing up. Love the 'odd-6', but it was a bit much for gophers. I see Canada is hot-pink behind blood-red America on that graphic.
 
2013-01-30 03:29:52 PM  

LarryDan43: My nearby coworker wants to BAN all GUNS! His cubicle is NOT ARMED! Out of respect for his opinion I promise NOT to use MY GUNS to PROTECT HIM.


that's wise, because you'd probably end up doing more harm than good.
 
2013-01-30 03:29:56 PM  
I think it's a comprehensive issue that is far deeper than a single inanimate object. I'm looking for more of the motive side than the act. There seems to be cultural, gang, economical, and psychological issues at play that are far deeper and more widespread than simply access to metal. Let's look at them ALL (yes, including guns). I think it's just naive to focus only on one.

Destigmatize mental health? How about street lights in cities that are actually on and have bulbs? Maybe if we didn't glorify every mass shooter for months? Stiffer penalties for gangs along with a decentralized penal system which would separate them in prison (Oh you're a member of an LA gang? Welcome to Pedokah, SD penitentiary)? Stimulus for vocational/technical schools (no, not everyone needs to go to college or is a precious PhD waiting to happen) and encourage at-risk groups to attend, maybe even incentivize? Along with options like this, we can have reasonable restrictions to firearms like we already have, if you want me to complete a licensing test to show proficiency/safety yearly (for a REASONABLE fee, not like $10,000, but $50 is acceptable), let's talk.
 
2013-01-30 03:30:12 PM  
He may have left the scene in a white Kia Optima

Isn't there a five-day cooling off period for them?
 
2013-01-30 03:30:13 PM  
Hopefully they all watching the preparedness video....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VcSwejU2D0
 
2013-01-30 03:30:14 PM  

wombatsrus: DownTheRabbitHole: natmar_76: Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.

SO MUCH THIS

The problem with changing the culture is that no one can agree on which culture we should change to.


I'd prefer one where vuvezelas are in every household versus a gun in every household.
 
2013-01-30 03:30:15 PM  
People do get cranky when you take their leftover lunch from yesterday.
 
2013-01-30 03:30:18 PM  
Holy shiat you Americans are dumb motherfarkers.
 
2013-01-30 03:30:27 PM  

wombatsrus: DownTheRabbitHole: natmar_76: Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.

SO MUCH THIS

The problem with changing the culture is that no one can agree on which culture we should change to.


Peaceful and salaries that are more equal rather than just the top people being comfortable is out of the question, apparently
 
2013-01-30 03:30:35 PM  
Maybe if we give the guns guns, gun owners will think twice before picking up a gun to kill people with the gun because the gun will pull a gun and gun them down before they can get the gun away from the gun.

You gun goofed, dun owners.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 03:30:49 PM  

Latinwolf: CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

And FTA we have this: "The suspect is a white male, possibly in his 60s." I doubt very much that this was gang related.


Nope. It's probably "people walking on my lawn" related.
 
2013-01-30 03:30:53 PM  

justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?

herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?


When are you going to give me the cite I asked for in the last thread?

As for the "10,000 homicides, more than half of them are suicides and a large percentage of the remainder are criminal-on-criminal. But hey, OUTRAGE! I know, I'll spam the queue with all the automobile deaths, which should leave approximately zero room for anything else. Since we care so much about life and all, and we're not pushing agendas or anything like that.

Anyway, get me that cite, willya? Thanks ever so very much.
 
2013-01-30 03:30:56 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?



That might be an interesting comparison; I'm too lazy to run the math myself (and gotta GBTW) but what would be the numbers on innocent people killed by guns vs. criminals killed by civilians protecting themselves with guns? Not that any such info would actually change anybody's opinions; but it might be good for a "hmm!"
 
2013-01-30 03:31:11 PM  
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-30 03:31:13 PM  
This is why I'm nice to everyone at work. Doesn't matter if they're completely nuts or creepy. It also helps that I can work at home 4 days a week.
 
2013-01-30 03:32:13 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: It's not like this is a rare occurrence. My husband has witnessed two workplace shootings in Phoenix. One outside a transmission shop in Sunnyslope while he was on his way to pick up his mom when her car broke down, and one right next to his workplace as he was pulling into the parking lot. I'm sure he's relieved he didn't have to see this one.


Let me guess. Neither one of those was a Fark Newsflash? I'd bet neither was labeled a "Mass Shooting" either.
 
2013-01-30 03:32:21 PM  

Latinwolf: CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

And FTA we have this: "The suspect is a white male, possibly in his 60s." I doubt very much that this was gang related.


Shouldn't be hard to catch him; he's probably in a golf cart headed back toward Sun City.
 
2013-01-30 03:32:37 PM  

solyhhit: Holy shiat you Americans are dumb motherfarkers.


The ones who kill each other over trivial shiat?

The ones who advocate more guns are the solution?

The ones who think gun control is the solution?

Or Option D, me, someone who thinks gun culture, sensationalization of these crimes, the drug trade and mental health are the culprit?

Please provide specificity, because undoubtedly not all Americans are dumb motherfarkers by your value system.
 
2013-01-30 03:32:53 PM  

natmar_76: Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society.


I really liked all of the, "He had it coming," and "good riddance," type of comments coming from the anti-gun crowd after the FPSRussia guy got murdered. Large swaths of Americans are more than happy to revel in the death of anyone they find suitably offensive.
 
2013-01-30 03:33:13 PM  

Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]


thats kind of a misleading map i think.

I know there are a shiat ton of guns in the middle east and africa.

Or are africans committing genocide with rocks?
 
2013-01-30 03:34:07 PM  
Grand_Moff_Joseph: " the turf war between the PC Load Letters and the BSODs has spilled out into the open!"

Accountz Rezeevable 4 Life Muthafarkaz!

Third Floor East Wing needs to respect our refrigerator space!
 
2013-01-30 03:34:08 PM  

Latinwolf: CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

And FTA we have this: "The suspect is a white male, possibly in his 60s." I doubt very much that this was gang related.


Well not in this part of town.

Now, on the east side, where the Sunland Village Crips fight for territory against the Leisure World Locos, watch out.
 
2013-01-30 03:34:13 PM  
Ever notice how it's mostly white men doing all the shootings?
 
2013-01-30 03:34:30 PM  

China White Tea: natmar_76: Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society.

I really liked all of the, "He had it coming," and "good riddance," type of comments coming from the anti-gun crowd after the FPSRussia guy got murdered. Large swaths of Americans are more than happy to revel in the death of anyone they find suitably offensive.


I am pretty sure people on both sides of the argument love it when someone dies. But thanks for playing, Captain Anecdotal Evidence.
 
2013-01-30 03:34:38 PM  

cabbyman: They should make shooting people illegal.

Then things like this won't happen anymore.


as I said in a previous thread, why not just legalize rape since people are still being raped? if it weren't for the fear of imprisonment, i'd be grabbing boob and ass all day long. Fortunately for the ladies, there are lawa against that, so I don't do it.
 
2013-01-30 03:34:39 PM  

Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?


Just another snowstorm in winter.
 
2013-01-30 03:35:07 PM  

Sid_the_sadist:
You want to see mass shootings and gun violence in general decline? Punish the motherfarkers who commit those crimes. In public. Permanently.


I thought the issue was mental illness. And if it is, how is teh death penalty going to deter someone with mental illness.

/It's not
 
2013-01-30 03:35:23 PM  
imageshack.us

At this rate, by the time some actual legislation or real action comes into play, this site will have farked KFC, Bojangle's and Popeye's right out of business.
 
2013-01-30 03:35:43 PM  

OnlyM3: natmar_76
2013-01-30 03:02:10 PM

Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.
[www.pursuit.eu image 273x386]


We DON'T have a violent society. We have a drug war where organized criminals kill eachother over illicit distribution rights to a product that SHOULD be completely legal, and it's considerably worse South of the border. Get rid of that war and there's no reason to kill anybody over who gets to sell where - that's almost the entire source of violence in America. As for mass shootings, I'm going to be intellectually honest and say that a repeating firearm does in fact make it easy to shoot in rapid manner(kinda the whole point of being a repeater), but I'm also going to make a prediction that this guy is like pretty much every other mass shooter - a social outcast that's been on at least one and maybe more than one type of psychotropic medication, and he just happens to be part of the 1% that that experienced the decreased inhibitions, suicidal tendencies, and violent outbursts that are now known to be associated with such drugs.

This shiat happens in every major country these days, even in countries that have an extreme shortage of guns, so just maybe this is a disease of civilization and there's nothing really that can be done except clean up the mess.
 
2013-01-30 03:36:16 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.

This is Arizona. No such thing as a gun-free zone. (Legally, maybe, but we likes our guns 'round here, boy.)

It's not like this is a rare occurrence. My husband has witnessed two workplace shootings in Phoenix. One outside a transmission shop in Sunnyslope while he was on his way to pick up his mom when her car broke down, and one right next to his workplace as he was pulling into the parking lot. I'm sure he's relieved he didn't have to see this one.


I think we need an ARIZONA tag
 
2013-01-30 03:36:19 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Ever notice how it's mostly white men doing all the shootings?


It stands to reason, since their white daughters are the only kids abducted.
 
2013-01-30 03:36:31 PM  

DownDaRiver: Can we please stop with the 'we need to arm or ban' headlines.
They aren't very creative and are being way overused.


I'm afraid we're going to have to ask you to leave.
 
2013-01-30 03:36:48 PM  

SovietCanuckistan: Love the 'odd-6', but it was a bit much for gophers.


Deer and Moose.
Though now mostly a bowhunter.

Would like to get a SCar17S just for the AWESOME factor.
Way too expensive. Though I guess it is cheaper than a Corvette as a penile extension device.
 
2013-01-30 03:37:00 PM  
If Haworth Partitions become illegal, then only the criminals will have Haworth Partitions.
 
2013-01-30 03:37:31 PM  
Newsflash headline should only be used when at least 10 people are shot and more than 5 are killed.
 
2013-01-30 03:37:42 PM  

Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]


I wonder if it is a coincidence that the USA owns the most guns and the most freedom...
 
2013-01-30 03:38:14 PM  

ontariolightning: Newsflash headline should only be used when at least 10 people are shot and more than 5 are killed.


Or if there's a "smokin' hot" British lady.
 
2013-01-30 03:38:23 PM  

eggrolls: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Go ahead, take my red staple - see what happens!


/seriously, this is sad stuff
//get a grip, America

Exactly.  Arson is much more effective in such a case.

You could always put strychnine in the guacamole.


Takes too long; arson is quicker!
 
2013-01-30 03:38:34 PM  
s3.amazonaws.com

Wanted for questioning.
 
2013-01-30 03:39:15 PM  

moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

/you know how I know I am in Texas? my desk drawer has a gun safe built into it.
//And that poor kid was killed who performed at Obama's inaugation
///but universal background checks won't help! We just have to keep the status quo!!!


Almost all shootings happen in blue counties/states.
 
2013-01-30 03:39:29 PM  
Charlton Heston is dead... so can't we pry from his cold hands already?
 
2013-01-30 03:39:41 PM  

Somacandra: You know, if everyone had their own cubicle, this wouldn't have happened. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a cubicle is a good guy with a cubicle. We shouldn't move towards universal background checks for cubicles because criminals who want cubicles will get them. You can pry my cubicle from my cold dead hands.


I'm reading this in a cubicle so I'm getting a kick out of your replies.
 
2013-01-30 03:39:59 PM  
 
2013-01-30 03:40:06 PM  

MBooda: He may have left the scene in a white Kia Optima

Isn't there a five-day cooling off period for them?

I thought it was a five-day warming up period for those...
 
2013-01-30 03:40:22 PM  

Bullseyed: moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

/you know how I know I am in Texas? my desk drawer has a gun safe built into it.
//And that poor kid was killed who performed at Obama's inaugation
///but universal background checks won't help! We just have to keep the status quo!!!

Almost all shootings happen in blue counties/states.


LOL
 
2013-01-30 03:40:23 PM  

TheOwnage: You don't see mass stabing stories,or mass chemical attack stories EVER.


Seriously. Google before you speak.
Ever?
 
2013-01-30 03:40:42 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: From now on I'm going to assume that every mass shooting in America was perpetrated by UN operatives in cahoots with the Shartbama administration, with the ultimate goal of confiscating all of our guns, destroying American sovereignty and supremacy, and transforming our land into an Islamosocialist dystopia.


With the budget deficit and all, I hope Fartbongo Soetoro Obama is at getting a bulk discount due to the number of "crisis actors" he is hiring.
 
2013-01-30 03:40:42 PM  
cdn.theatlantic.com

GANGNAM STYLE!
 
2013-01-30 03:40:48 PM  
Lots o' good stats or links to stats.
 
2013-01-30 03:40:58 PM  
I'll bet at least one of these recent attacks was a false flag operation. The odds are starting to look good.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 03:41:28 PM  

MBooda: He may have left the scene in a white Kia Optima

Isn't there a five-day cooling off period for them?


If I was forced to drive a POS like that I would probably either shoot the salesman or myself out of sadness.
 
2013-01-30 03:41:31 PM  

Latinwolf: And FTA we have this: "The suspect is a white male, possibly in his 60s." I doubt very much that this was gang related.


He might be a Jet. You know, when you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way; from your first all-boy three-way to your last dyin' day.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-30 03:42:03 PM  
"One person is in extremely critical condition."

Extremely Critical Condition

So.... this is like waaay worse than regular old critical condition?
 
2013-01-30 03:42:08 PM  
Logic in this Fark gun debate? Off with his head!

/Arming everyone isn't going to stop deaths people. Neither will banning all guns. I believe more research is badly needed to see what actually works.
 
2013-01-30 03:42:10 PM  
Remember, it doesn't matter how many people we kill with drones, land mines, cluster bombs or economic sanctions. We just don't want you killing each other.
 
2013-01-30 03:42:34 PM  

lecavalier: I'll bet at least one of these recent attacks was a false flag operation. The odds are starting to look good.


Okay, how much do you want to lose because you're placing bets on the basis that you're deluded?
 
2013-01-30 03:42:47 PM  
: TheOwnage: You don't see mass stabing stories,or mass chemical attack stories EVER.


Seriously. Google before you speak.
Sarin - Japan
 
2013-01-30 03:43:09 PM  
America is becoming more and more like mexico to us Canadians. Its a nice place to visit, if your in the right/protected area, but not a chance of moving/living there
 
2013-01-30 03:43:15 PM  

lecavalier: I'll bet at least one of these recent attacks was a false flag operation. The odds are starting to look good.


images.sodahead.com
 
2013-01-30 03:43:39 PM  
An example of how foreigners teach their kids math

8 injured in georgia tornado

3 injured in this shooting

8+3= 11 americans injured
 
2013-01-30 03:44:26 PM  
If only every American were armed with a cubicle...

*sigh* This meme is getting old...
 
2013-01-30 03:44:28 PM  

socoloco: Remember, it doesn't matter how many people we kill with drones, land mines, cluster bombs or economic sanctions. We just don't want you killing each other.


i99.photobucket.com

Nothing to see here. Move along people.
 
2013-01-30 03:44:32 PM  

theToadMan: America is becoming more and more like mexico to us Canadians. Its a nice place to visit, if your in the right/protected area, but not a chance of moving/living there


Thank God for that. We carry enough dead weight.
 
2013-01-30 03:44:44 PM  

DownTheRabbitHole: natmar_76: Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.

SO MUCH THIS


This is all true. But let's face it, cultural change is either impossible or will take generations. In the short term, reducing the number of guns will reduce the number of gun incidents. Yes, you are stuck with a violent, messed-up culture but that doesn't mean you should throw your hands up in defeat and do nothing.
 
2013-01-30 03:45:04 PM  
moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

Yeah liberals attacking in violent rage never happens

JFK - killed by liberal

Lincoln (Republican) - killed by democrat

MLK (Republican) - killed by democrat

Andrew Joseph Stack III, flew his Piper Dakota into IRS building after posting anti Bush/business manifesto online.

Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski (AKA Uni-bomber) - Left wing eco terrorist Multiple murders and attempted murder

Floyd Lee Corkins II ( liberal gay activist) Entered "Conservative" Family Research Center and opened fire

James Chester Blanning (Planted multiple bombs around Aspen banks) A snippet from his threat:
Do not f*** with us or there will be mass death like we have all been part of over in that f***ing quicksand trap that rove and chaney's monkey bush put us into

*sounds like farkers

Bill Ayers (Obama friend and supporter) "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough."

Carol Anne Burger (writer for the Huffington Post ) - stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver [ thank god she didn't have a gun]
Her final article for huff-po? "Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for. "

John Patrick Bedell (Registered democrat) - Pentagon shooter.

Liberal talk show host Charles Karel Bouley on the air.
"F*** God D*mned Joe the God D*mned Motherf*cking plumber! I want Motherf*cking Joe the plumber dead."

Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church) - Long time fundraiser for and friend of al gore
www.freedomsphoenix.com
 
2013-01-30 03:45:39 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


Of course not. We'd have to have several dozen a day. And that's a pretty good reason to keep reminding people of the damage guns do.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 03:45:59 PM  

Salmon: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 850x605]

GANGNAM STYLE!


LOL!!!!

You rock....

/thanks for the laugh, you made my day a little nicer
 
2013-01-30 03:46:05 PM  

FlashHarry: Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?

WayneKerr: Is this really news? Why the Newsflash tag?

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

mass shootings are regular events, people! they're not news! welcome to wayne la pierre's america!


This just in! Humans are a violent species!

\this is not a repeat from every year since homo sapiens evolved from homo beforus
 
2013-01-30 03:46:14 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: theToadMan: America is becoming more and more like mexico to us Canadians. Its a nice place to visit, if your in the right/protected area, but not a chance of moving/living there

Thank God for that. We carry enough dead weight.


Enjoy buying our blackberries and our Canadians winning the stanley cup for your hockey teams
 
2013-01-30 03:47:02 PM  

OnlyM3: moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?
Yeah liberals attacking in violent rage never happens

JFK - killed by liberal

Lincoln (Republican) - killed by democrat

MLK (Republican) - killed by democrat

Andrew Joseph Stack III, flew his Piper Dakota into IRS building after posting anti Bush/business manifesto online.

Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski (AKA Uni-bomber) - Left wing eco terrorist Multiple murders and attempted murder

Floyd Lee Corkins II ( liberal gay activist) Entered "Conservative" Family Research Center and opened fire

James Chester Blanning (Planted multiple bombs around Aspen banks) A snippet from his threat:
Do not f*** with us or there will be mass death like we have all been part of over in that f***ing quicksand trap that rove and chaney's monkey bush put us into
*sounds like farkers

Bill Ayers (Obama friend and supporter) "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough."

Carol Anne Burger (writer for the Huffington Post ) - stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver [ thank god she didn't have a gun]
Her final article for huff-po? "Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for. "

John Patrick Bedell (Registered democrat) - Pentagon shooter.

Liberal talk show host Charles Karel Bouley on the air.
"F*** God D*mned Joe the God D*mned Motherf*cking plumber! I want Motherf*cking Joe the plumber dead."

Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church) - Long time fundraiser for and friend of al gore
[www.freedomsphoenix.com image 255x225]


NOW THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE!


11/10
 
2013-01-30 03:47:04 PM  
Told you so.
 
2013-01-30 03:47:55 PM  

ontariolightning: Enjoy buying our blackberries and our Canadians winning the stanley cup for your hockey teams


Do they still play hockey? I thought the NHL folded. It's never on TV down here.
 
2013-01-30 03:48:05 PM  
Malthusian crisis?
 
2013-01-30 03:48:13 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: lecavalier: I'll bet at least one of these recent attacks was a false flag operation. The odds are starting to look good.

Okay, how much do you want to lose because you're placing bets on the basis that you're deluded?


Can I parlay it with something more grounded in reality? Say "Odds there will be a post following this one?" That should bring me back to 1:1 odds and then we can make the bet.
 
2013-01-30 03:48:46 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


The whole culture is debating gun control. Fark's not exempt. It  is a newsflash.

/I'd like to think murder\attempted murder would deserve a newsflash on its own...
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 03:48:52 PM  

OnlyM3: Carol Anne Burger (writer for the Huffington Post ) - stabbed her roommate 222 times with a screwdriver [ thank god she didn't have a gun]
Her final article for huff-po? "Yes, those Christians and Palin fans -- they're the ones you have to watch out for. "


I had forgotten about her. 222 times?!?
Think about that. She probably had to stop mid-run to rest up and finish it because it wore her out.

/freakin nuts
 
2013-01-30 03:49:09 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: theToadMan: America is becoming more and more like mexico to us Canadians. Its a nice place to visit, if your in the right/protected area, but not a chance of moving/living there

Thank God for that. We carry enough dead weight.


Grand slam!

/Suck it, America's Hat.
 
2013-01-30 03:49:11 PM  
Has the NRA gone on record yet with the declaration that the shooting in Phoenix would have been avoided if the other cube dwellers were packing heat?

/was at Tucson last year for the Festival of Books
//Tucsonites? Tucsononians? Tucsoners? told me several times that they were jokingly considering seceding from the rest of Arizona to form the state of South Arizona
///to separate themselves from the conservatives up north in Phoenix
////and the folks who do security at Sky Harbor Airport in Phoenix are the most paranoid I've ever encountered
//the only farking airport where I got escorted by security simply for walking around to different concourses to kill time between flights
 
2013-01-30 03:49:41 PM  

natmar_76: Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.


If only there was some non-violent method of conflict resolution that was as fast and affordable as violence. Or less conflict to resolve. Or less emphasis on getting things done immediately.
 
2013-01-30 03:49:50 PM  
media.hammerandnigel.com
 
2013-01-30 03:50:11 PM  
These kinds of arguements against guns are getting old. This is a mental health issue. People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns. Of course people know that but don't want logic to interfear with theit hatred of guns. Pathetic.
 
2013-01-30 03:50:12 PM  
We can stop doing this anytime. People get shot and stabbed EVERYDAY it is what happens. Reporting it now is just dirty laundry.
 
2013-01-30 03:50:26 PM  

Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]


And yet, homicides due to guns are dropping, with 11,101 in 2011 (most recent data available), or 3.6 deaths due to firearms per 100,000 people. [citation]. Of over 2.5 million people who died in 2011, under half a percent of them were murdered with a gun. [citation]. More people (16,634) died of alcoholic liver disease, to say nothing of alcohol-induced death (26,256). Ban booze!

But it is in the news cycle now, so we'll get blasted with every single event that might involve a firearm, even though they are statistical outliers. But they make good copy.
 
2013-01-30 03:51:13 PM  
The only way to stop the violence is to greatly impove your social safety net but that means you'd have to kill every republican because they would not allow that.
 
2013-01-30 03:51:15 PM  
THE GUNS KEEP US SAFE THE GUNS KEEP US SAFE!
 
2013-01-30 03:51:31 PM  
I'm tired of shooting threads. Whatever happened to good ol' boobie threads? Let's make this one of those
almostdumb.com
 
2013-01-30 03:52:05 PM  

Cup_O_Jo: We can stop doing this anytime. People get shot and stabbed EVERYDAY it is what happens. Reporting it now is just dirty laundry.


Yeah guys, local media should stop reporting local murders.
 
2013-01-30 03:52:06 PM  
Let's pass a new law, that will change human nature. It'll work this time, I promise.
 
2013-01-30 03:52:20 PM  
I'm glad that shooter took out THREE tyrannies.

Thank you, brave gun owners, and thank you, Phoenix shooter.  Eventually, we will win the war against tyranny.

Let's win it....  FOR PATRIOT FREEDOM JESUS!
 
2013-01-30 03:52:24 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I'm tired of shooting threads. Whatever happened to good ol' boobie threads? Let's make this one of those
[almostdumb.com image 630x489]


I'd target that.
 
2013-01-30 03:52:24 PM  

Sid_the_sadist: Bring back the farking death penalty, and I mean the real one, in mass shootings.
That farker from Ft. Hood, the waste of flesh from Newtown, that "joker" dipshiat from CO.

We know they did it. There is no reasonable doubt. Death! No appeals, no farking books, no movies, no interviews on tv, no last meal, fark all that, kill 'em.

The problem is there is no deterrent from being a murdering cock-sucker. If a guy can kill 26 people, 20 of which are children, and get 3 hot meals, a bed, heat, water, cable tv, and sell his story to the highest bidder, where is the punishment? I've been deployed twice, once to Iraq, once to Afghanistan, and farking criminals live and eat better than I did. That's bullshiat!

I guaran-goddamned-tee you that if those farkers were lined up and hung on the 50 yard line during halftime at the Super Bowl people would think twice about going on a killing spree. fark all this bleeding-heart "if we do that we're no better than them" shiat. We are better than them. We don't arbitrarily murder innocent people, and they have no place whatsoever in our society, bury the bastards and move on.

You want to see mass shootings and gun violence in general decline? Punish the motherfarkers who commit those crimes. In public. Permanently.


Punishing crazy people doesn't deter crazy people.
 
2013-01-30 03:52:41 PM  

KawaiiNot: Arming everyone isn't going to stop deaths people. Neither will banning all guns.


I have seen major organizations and public figures calling for the former. I have seen no one calling for the latter. Without some evidence, this gives a very misleading impression.
 
2013-01-30 03:52:52 PM  
moonscatter

///but universal background checks won't help! We just have to keep the status quo!!!

So you're angry at obmessiah's administration's refusal to follow up on background checks?

"And to your point, Mr. Baker, regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don't have the time "
--- joe -the plagiarizer- biden when confronted on why the law enforcement branch of the US Government is refusing to enforce firearm laws.

*yet they had the time to ensure that firearms "walked" to buyers who could not pass existing background checks. Those firearms are now turning up at murder scenes. NIce work !!
 
2013-01-30 03:52:58 PM  
Chicago...not impressed.


/too sad
//too soon
///sad slashies
 
2013-01-30 03:53:02 PM  

paygun: Let's pass a new law, that will change human American nature. It'll work this time, I promise.


Let's not pin our shiat on all of humanity.
 
2013-01-30 03:53:12 PM  

Bullseyed: Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]

I wonder if it is a coincidence that the USA owns the most guns and the most freedom...


Don't forget these ...
www.lawnjock.com
 
2013-01-30 03:53:28 PM  

Mija: These kinds of arguements against guns are getting old. This is a mental health issue. People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns. Of course people know that but don't want logic to interfear with theit hatred of guns. Pathetic.


If you truly believe that a screwdriver is just as effective tool for killing human beings as a Bushmaster, then by your own logic there is absolutely no need for a Bushmaster for self defense since a screwdriver is in every way an equivalent substitute.

Sorry, people are just tetting testy because they're tired of gun nuts slaughtering school children.
 
2013-01-30 03:54:05 PM  

natmar_76: The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).


I'm picturing a massacre like Sandy Hook being a bit more difficult with only bare hands.

Let's take this line of thinking to its logical limits. Say instead of guns, there was a bank of switches on a wall. Flip a switch, and someone dies. Could you still stand up in public and say "this mass killing would have happened even if we deactivated the switches"?
 
2013-01-30 03:54:15 PM  
FTA: "The suspect is a white male, possibly in his 60s"

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-01-30 03:54:20 PM  

Cup_O_Jo: We can stop doing this anytime. People get shot and stabbed EVERYDAY it is what happens. Reporting it now is just dirty laundry.


Know what happens when you click on these links or comment in these threads?
 
2013-01-30 03:55:17 PM  

MBooda: He may have left the scene in a white Kia Optima

Isn't there a five-day cooling off period for them?


Well, I guess we know the chase will only top 60mph before the car falls apart.
 
2013-01-30 03:55:40 PM  
Oh, look. Another shooting story that I will ignore.
 
2013-01-30 03:56:02 PM  

Godscrack: FTA: "The suspect is a white male, possibly in his 60s"

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 273x200]


I'm betting he previously would have called himself a "responsible gun owner" prior to today, as well.
 
2013-01-30 03:56:32 PM  
Paint all the guns Hello Kitty pink. Attach a tassle to the butt end.
 
2013-01-30 03:56:40 PM  
"ever notice how it's mostly white men doing the shootings"

...
you mean the ones you read about right? I wonder why that is.
 
2013-01-30 03:57:30 PM  

ariseatex: As an office worker who watched a 20-minute "preventing violence in the workplace" video this morning, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Apparently saying "You're all gonna pay for this!" is frowned upon
//Who knew?
///Slashies come in threes


Just last year we had someone in our building fired for saying that at a job performance review. He said something to the effect of "I'm feeling like snapping and bringing a gun up here" and was escorted immediately off the grounds by the "security" (which is made up of unarmed retirees). The next day his work team refused to show up at work and we were all told to alert security immediately if anyone saw him around the building.

After he was fired, he lost his house, got arrested, was out on bail, got arrested in another state, out on bail again, and then blew his head off with a shotgun.

/no mental evaluation was ever made for him
//it was recommended though when he was fired
///fat lot of good that did for him
 
2013-01-30 03:57:33 PM  

Mija: People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns.


Of course.  And, I'm sure they'll just find something as efficient at killing as a semi-automatic is.

Like...  I don't know...  maybe a hammer?
 
2013-01-30 03:58:08 PM  

doczoidberg: Oh, look. Another shooting story that I will ignore.


Yet you take the time to post in it. Very interesting.
 
2013-01-30 03:59:17 PM  
But hey, you're allowed a gun, in your first amendment or something like that right?
 
2013-01-30 03:59:50 PM  

knowless: "ever notice how it's mostly white men doing the shootings"

...
you mean the ones you read about right? I wonder why that is.


They shoot a lot of people. But please, expand on this.
 
2013-01-30 04:00:50 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Mija: People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns.

Of course.  And, I'm sure they'll just find something as efficient at killing as a semi-automatic is.

Like...  I don't know...  maybe a fertilizer and diesel fuel hammer?


/depends upon how much time they have.
 
2013-01-30 04:01:04 PM  

OnlyM3: Lincoln (Republican) - killed by democrat conservative

MLK (Republican) - killed by democrat conservative


8/10
 
2013-01-30 04:01:49 PM  

NightOwl2255: doczoidberg: Oh, look. Another shooting story that I will ignore.

Yet you take the time to post in it. Very interesting.


I don't know about you, but I am glad he took the time to come in here and show us all how he is above all of this.

I'm pretty sure he was into mass-shooting stories before they were cool.  In fact, his favorite was this one in Portland, but he's sure you never heard of it.  It was kind of obscure.
 
2013-01-30 04:03:20 PM  

Bendal: ariseatex: As an office worker who watched a 20-minute "preventing violence in the workplace" video this morning, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Apparently saying "You're all gonna pay for this!" is frowned upon
//Who knew?
///Slashies come in threes

Just last year we had someone in our building fired for saying that at a job performance review. He said something to the effect of "I'm feeling like snapping and bringing a gun up here" and was escorted immediately off the grounds by the "security" (which is made up of unarmed retirees). The next day his work team refused to show up at work and we were all told to alert security immediately if anyone saw him around the building.

After he was fired, he lost his house, got arrested, was out on bail, got arrested in another state, out on bail again, and then blew his head off with a shotgun.

/no mental evaluation was ever made for him
//it was recommended though when he was fired
///fat lot of good that did for him


So a guy that said he was ready to snap actually snapped, and they did the right thing by firing him and alerting security?
 
2013-01-30 04:03:24 PM  

InmanRoshi: If you truly believe that a screwdriver is just as effective tool for killing human beings as a Bushmaster, then by your own logic there is absolutely no need for a Bushmaster for self defense since a screwdriver is in every way an equivalent substitute.


Well said. This is going into my profile! Thank you.
 
2013-01-30 04:03:31 PM  

Whiskey Dickens: natmar_76: The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).


I'm picturing a massacre like Sandy Hook being a bit more difficult with only bare hands.

Let's take this line of thinking to its logical limits. Say instead of guns, there was a bank of switches on a wall. Flip a switch, and someone dies. Could you still stand up in public and say "this mass killing would have happened even if we deactivated the switches"?


Well you cant get rid of all the guns, you simply cant. Its hillarious that some people think they could. You might be able to find and identify crazy people on a more regular basis and get them medicated. Maybe. Dont know, we have never tried. We as a country have tried many times to regulate guns. In some places like Detroit they have tried heavily regulating guns. It hasnt worked out very well. And no, dont cite sources for umbumfarkistan or wherever since those countries arent full of, well, Americans.

My mother who has been screaming for a ban on all gun's forever nearly had a breakdown over the news stories today. The last thing she screamed for the day was "I dont care what the damn politicians do today but they have to do SOMETHING now!". She said "something". Thats exactly what we are going to get at this point, "something". It may be pointless, it probably wont do jack shiat but irritate a small group of people and affect the numbers farkall. But at least they did something right?

/sit back and have some more popcorn. Aint none of us gonna make it out of this stupid show alive anyhow.
 
2013-01-30 04:03:47 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-30 04:04:00 PM  
ontariolightning

The only way to stop the violence is to greatly impove your social safety net but that means you'd have to kill every republican because they would not allow that.

More fark liberals calling for murder.

Party of peace and tolerance.
 
2013-01-30 04:05:10 PM  

Bullseyed: moonscatter: The comments on Chron.com (Houston newspaper) are blaming this on liberals who are angry. Riiiiiight. I wonder if that's the new talking point?

/you know how I know I am in Texas? my desk drawer has a gun safe built into it.
//And that poor kid was killed who performed at Obama's inaugation
///but universal background checks won't help! We just have to keep the status quo!!!

Almost all shootings happen in blue counties/states.


Coincidental.
High population areas attract crime gangs, mobsters complain to the politicians they sponsor about their victims shooting back, gun laws happen. After these laws are in place, everyone gets happy that something has been done (even if that something has resulted in a worse situation).
 
2013-01-30 04:05:12 PM  

dabbletech: DownDaRiver: Can we please stop with the 'we need to arm or ban' headlines.
They aren't very creative and are being way overused.

I'm afraid we're going to have to ask you to leave.



i877.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-30 04:05:23 PM  

HeadLever: Vodka Zombie: Mija: People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns.

Of course.  And, I'm sure they'll just find something as efficient at killing as a semi-automatic is.

Like...  I don't know...  maybe a fertilizer and diesel fuel hammer?

/depends upon how much time they have.


The problem with bombs is that they are notoriously unreliable.  I'd still much rather use a hammer.  It's not as crazy as using a gun, nor as cowardly as using a bomb.  It's an honest, more personal kill, ya know?  It's like the friendly handshake of mass murders.
 
2013-01-30 04:05:27 PM  
Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.
 
2013-01-30 04:06:07 PM  

PsiChick: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

The whole culture is debating gun control. Fark's not exempt. It  is a newsflash.

/I'd like to think murder\attempted murder would deserve a newsflash on its own...


Yeah, but here (at the very least) it's starting (*snert*) to get ridiculous. Every thread on guns - whether guns are the primary focus, secondary, tertiary or, just for the sheer hell of it, not even part of the initial topic itself and just ended up that way because someone came in and threadshiat - have gone into the high hundreds of posts as each side just ends up fellating the other.

Literally, every topic goes like this: one side or the other comes in first and spends about 25-50 posts harping up their side. Then the other guys come in and spend the same amount of time rebuking it. Then, for the remainder of the duration, each side trades barbs back and forth like two ex's who can't stand being around the other for any longer than it takes to finish their regularly scheduled epic hate-farking sessions.

The gun threads - which used to be amusing and, in some cases, informative - have become what the election threads were for the last two years. Actually, they're worse, because at least in those threads, there was actual humor to be found.
 
2013-01-30 04:06:44 PM  
KNOCK IT OFF, ASSHOLES.
 
2013-01-30 04:07:44 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: paygun: Let's pass a new law, that will change human American nature. It'll work this time, I promise.

Let's not pin our shiat on all of humanity.


It's true, Americans aren't human.
 
2013-01-30 04:07:46 PM  
FlashHarry

OnlyM3: Lincoln (Republican) - killed by democrat conservative

MLK (Republican) - killed by democrat conservative

Sorry, you can have all the opinions you like. What you can't have facts you make up.
Care to post the stats on which party supported and which party opposed the Civil rights act (Hint algore's father did the latter)?
 
2013-01-30 04:07:50 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?

herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?

When are you going to give me the cite I asked for in the last thread?

As for the "10,000 homicides, more than half of them are suicides and a large percentage of the remainder are criminal-on-criminal. But hey, OUTRAGE! I know, I'll spam the queue with all the automobile deaths, which should leave approximately zero room for anything else. Since we care so much about life and all, and we're not pushing agendas or anything like that.

Anyway, get me that cite, willya? Thanks ever so very much.


What cite?
 
2013-01-30 04:07:53 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.


Which report indicated that a Bushmaster model firearm was utilized in the reported incident?
 
2013-01-30 04:08:10 PM  

teeny: KNOCK IT OFF, ASSHOLES.


Gotta get yer killin in now, Obongo is about to usurp our rights to kill people.
 
2013-01-30 04:09:14 PM  
We need to turn this into a hipster thing.

I was mass-shooting before it was cool.
 
2013-01-30 04:09:52 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.


No, we don't feel it. We see your impotent flailing about and generally laugh at you. None of the laws that you think are coming are going to pass. None of them. What's more, you know that we had a nearly-identical law for a decade and it accomplished nothing except the loss of control of Congress for the Democrats, so you actually don't want them to pass anything. You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.
 
2013-01-30 04:09:58 PM  
I think we need to start building "Fun Parks" like they had in Farenheit 451. A place where people can do and actually destroy things in a somewhat controlled environment would do a lot of good in venting the stress that causes these kinds of tragedies. That or it would just provide a place for these nuts to practice.

On the topic of America being a violent culture, as far as I can tell from history, the world-dominant civilization has always been the most violent. It's a strong indicator that violence, while something to be avoided whenever possible by an individual, is a successful trait for a society to have and to hone. Like it or not, America's power is fueled by the power of our military might. It's a strong subtext in our culture that guns equal power. In our culture, when people feel powerless one of the choices available to them is to pick up a gun and create chaos, thus satisfying their want of power. We should make every effort to curtail these kinds of incidents by providing people with more attractive and less deadly methods of regaining their own power. Curtailing freedom, which may be a successful method of reducing these kind of events, is going to do nothing to make this a better society. It's a kneejerk solution to the problem and it will not fix it.
 
2013-01-30 04:10:02 PM  
i5.photobucket.com

Pretty much this.
 
2013-01-30 04:10:09 PM  

Dimensio: Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.

Which report indicated that a Bushmaster model firearm was utilized in the reported incident?


Welcome to the world Fox News built for you - where such facts are irrelevant. Enjoy.
 
2013-01-30 04:10:18 PM  

Outlaw Thirds: Bendal: ariseatex: As an office worker who watched a 20-minute "preventing violence in the workplace" video this morning, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Apparently saying "You're all gonna pay for this!" is frowned upon
//Who knew?
///Slashies come in threes

Just last year we had someone in our building fired for saying that at a job performance review. He said something to the effect of "I'm feeling like snapping and bringing a gun up here" and was escorted immediately off the grounds by the "security" (which is made up of unarmed retirees). The next day his work team refused to show up at work and we were all told to alert security immediately if anyone saw him around the building.

After he was fired, he lost his house, got arrested, was out on bail, got arrested in another state, out on bail again, and then blew his head off with a shotgun.

/no mental evaluation was ever made for him
//it was recommended though when he was fired
///fat lot of good that did for him

So a guy that said he was ready to snap actually snapped, and they did the right thing by firing him and alerting security?


Wouldnt it be nice if there was some sort of federally funded program that could step in, put this guy under evaluation, talk to him about his problems and find actual solutions to whats really farking with his head? If he's stressed or just chemically unbalanced maybe some free mood stabilizers and monthly checkups that he cant legally turn down as long as he appears to be a danger maybe?

Or just fark him, turn him into a social pariah until he kills himself and or others? Liberal American logic
 
2013-01-30 04:11:12 PM  

paygun: HotWingConspiracy: paygun: Let's pass a new law, that will change human American nature. It'll work this time, I promise.

Let's not pin our shiat on all of humanity.

It's true, Americans aren't human.


I learned today that we have 40x more flame retardant chemical residue in our blood than anyone else on the planet, so we seem to be evolving in to some fire proof species that feeds only on HFCS.
 
2013-01-30 04:11:16 PM  

Dimensio: Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.

Which report indicated that a Bushmaster model firearm was utilized in the reported incident?


I'm pretty sure Jesus was just talking in general terms and not really talking about this particular incident.

You probably know that too, though.
 
2013-01-30 04:11:32 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Mija: People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns.

Of course.  And, I'm sure they'll just find something as efficient at killing as a semi-automatic is.

Like...  I don't know...  maybe a hammer?


or a car? or gasoline? bombs are easy as fark to make seriously bro, your logic is bad here.

you know how much background checks they do on a beater off of craigslist and as much gas as you could buy with what a pistol costs?

seriously dude, i know americans are dumb and there schools suck, but i bet there are at least a few left who know basic chemistry...
 
2013-01-30 04:11:33 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


That is what happens in normal countries...
 
2013-01-30 04:12:00 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Dimensio: Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.

Which report indicated that a Bushmaster model firearm was utilized in the reported incident?

Welcome to the world Fox News built for you - where such facts are irrelevant. Enjoy.


I have little concern for any creations of Fox News.

You did not address my question.
 
2013-01-30 04:12:12 PM  

Carn: Treygreen13: Seriously, do we need to have a News Flash for every gun crime?

You're right. They happen so often, why even report them anymore? Let's all just ignore it and it'll go away.


And yet you are not posting news flashes for rape. Why do you like rape so much?
 
2013-01-30 04:12:12 PM  
i mean really, they seem to have an easy enough time making meth.
 
2013-01-30 04:12:28 PM  

Sid_the_sadist: The problem is there is no deterrent from being a murdering cock-sucker. If a guy can kill 26 people, 20 of which are children, and get 3 hot meals, a bed, heat, water, cable tv, and sell his story to the highest bidder, where is the punishment?


You know, you're right. We should totally dig that guy up and hang him on the 50-yard line, instead of digging him up and giving him three hot meals, a bed, heat, and water that won't do anything except make him smell worse because HE ALREADY FARKING KILLED HIMSELF.

/Poe's law doesn't seem to stop anybody, either
 
2013-01-30 04:12:39 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.


I don't really give a rat's ass either way, I only know that whatever enrages the RIght is good for America.

Enjoy.
 
2013-01-30 04:13:38 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: I'm getting really tired of resetting the Too Soon To Talk About It clock.


Nothing to reset; we've never stopped talking about it.
 
2013-01-30 04:13:50 PM  
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

/nuff said
 
2013-01-30 04:13:51 PM  
It has been 0 DAYS since our last mass shooting.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:05 PM  

justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?

herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?

When are you going to give me the cite I asked for in the last thread?

As for the "10,000 homicides, more than half of them are suicides and a large percentage of the remainder are criminal-on-criminal. But hey, OUTRAGE! I know, I'll spam the queue with all the automobile deaths, which should leave approximately zero room for anything else. Since we care so much about life and all, and we're not pushing agendas or anything like that.

Anyway, get me that cite, willya? Thanks ever so very much.

What cite?


Lets clarify the~10k does not include suicides. That would put the number at roughly 30-40k. I can see why you want cites being so woefully ignorant.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:08 PM  

MrEricSir: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

You're right, mass shootings are completely normally and non-newsworthy.


people have been getting murdered every day on most countries, and definitely this one, forever. this is not a mass shooting ti s a disgruntled employee or a personal affair brought to the workplace. the cops said it is not random.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:10 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Adolf Oliver Nipples: You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.

I don't really give a rat's ass either way, I only know that whatever enrages the RIght is good for America.

Enjoy.


I enjoy the fact that you are enraged that I have a collection of weapons and ammunition.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:35 PM  
That's definitely not the way to end a mediation session.
Not if you want to win.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:42 PM  

coeyagi: China White Tea: natmar_76: Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society.

I really liked all of the, "He had it coming," and "good riddance," type of comments coming from the anti-gun crowd after the FPSRussia guy got murdered. Large swaths of Americans are more than happy to revel in the death of anyone they find suitably offensive.

I am pretty sure people on both sides of the argument love it when someone dies. But thanks for playing, Captain Anecdotal Evidence.


Good job responding to an argument I didn't actually posit, Captain Strawman Argument.
 
2013-01-30 04:14:56 PM  

Outlaw Thirds: Bendal: ariseatex: As an office worker who watched a 20-minute "preventing violence in the workplace" video this morning, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Apparently saying "You're all gonna pay for this!" is frowned upon
//Who knew?
///Slashies come in threes

Just last year we had someone in our building fired for saying that at a job performance review. He said something to the effect of "I'm feeling like snapping and bringing a gun up here" and was escorted immediately off the grounds by the "security" (which is made up of unarmed retirees). The next day his work team refused to show up at work and we were all told to alert security immediately if anyone saw him around the building.

After he was fired, he lost his house, got arrested, was out on bail, got arrested in another state, out on bail again, and then blew his head off with a shotgun.

/no mental evaluation was ever made for him
//it was recommended though when he was fired
///fat lot of good that did for him

So a guy that said he was ready to snap actually snapped, and they did the right thing by firing him and alerting security?


Depends. Did he snap because he was fired, lost his house, his wife divorced him (forgot that part), and was arrested twice, or was the firing what caused him to snap months later?

Seems to me the "right thing to do" when someone says "he was ready to snap" isn't throw him on the street, where he's almost certain to snap, but to make sure he gets some mental health help so he doesn't snap.

/just saying "go get help" doesn't help, either
//that's what the firing board recommended
///after they fired him, that is
 
2013-01-30 04:14:59 PM  

H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said


that's some brand of stupid you're sporting there
 
2013-01-30 04:15:17 PM  

Clutch2013: PsiChick: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

The whole culture is debating gun control. Fark's not exempt. It  is a newsflash.

/I'd like to think murder\attempted murder would deserve a newsflash on its own...

Yeah, but here (at the very least) it's starting (*snert*) to get ridiculous. Every thread on guns - whether guns are the primary focus, secondary, tertiary or, just for the sheer hell of it, not even part of the initial topic itself and just ended up that way because someone came in and threadshiat - have gone into the high hundreds of posts as each side just ends up fellating the other.

Literally, every topic goes like this: one side or the other comes in first and spends about 25-50 posts harping up their side. Then the other guys come in and spend the same amount of time rebuking it. Then, for the remainder of the duration, each side trades barbs back and forth like two ex's who can't stand being around the other for any longer than it takes to finish their regularly scheduled epic hate-farking sessions.

The gun threads - which used to be amusing and, in some cases, informative - have become what the election threads were for the last two years. Actually, they're worse, because at least in those threads, there was actual humor to be found.


Something I learned pretty early after being diagnosed with Asperger's is that there actually is no point to trying to force everyone to stick to topics you like. Some topics should not show up on Fark, because the majority of Fark ends up acting like rabid animals (misogyny and fattie threads, anyone?), but a gun thread? Everyone's having fun, airing their viewpoint, and there's no more asshattery than usual. I'm all for getting rid of unoriginality, but at some point you have to accept that not only are you not going to win, there's no point starting the fight. There's other threads, and nobody's really doing anything horrible in this one. Just skip over if you're bored.
 
2013-01-30 04:15:51 PM  

justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?

herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?

When are you going to give me the cite I asked for in the last thread?

As for the "10,000 homicides, more than half of them are suicides and a large percentage of the remainder are criminal-on-criminal. But hey, OUTRAGE! I know, I'll spam the queue with all the automobile deaths, which should leave approximately zero room for anything else. Since we care so much about life and all, and we're not pushing agendas or anything like that.

Anyway, get me that cite, willya? Thanks ever so very much.

What cite?


The one that substantiates the claim you made here.

"But but i thought guns are easy enough to make and if they werent available criminals would just make explosives. Are you now saying that was a total lie? No..... Couldnt be.... "

You said that they make the claim in every thread. So, until such time as you admit that you're talking out of your ass or substantiate it, every time you respond to me I'm going to ask for it. Since you respond to me in every recent gun-related thread like some kind of stalker, I shouldn't be that hard to find when you're ready to put up or shut up.
 
2013-01-30 04:16:18 PM  
So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

I mean, more people than that are killed in Chicago on a daily basis, same goes for Baltimore and DC. But it's suddenly something horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot and not a crack house or down by the docks?
 
2013-01-30 04:17:04 PM  

H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said



www.cityhyd.info
Is not amused by your suggestion that she be outlawed.



/Gunfappers
//Too stupid to spell
 
2013-01-30 04:17:10 PM  

PsiChick: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

The whole culture is debating gun control. Fark's not exempt. It  is a newsflash.

/I'd like to think murder\attempted murder would deserve a newsflash on its own...


Funny that it's only guns, only recently and things like killings without guns and/or killing by police officers goes by without so much as a greenlight, much less a newsflash. Remember the link about the LV cop who murdered his wife and son, then killed himself? Neither do I.
 
2013-01-30 04:17:48 PM  
Oh, no, no, do not arm me, I deal with annoying sales people (my colleagues) multiple times a day. I would very quickly become a statistic.

Or do they give you gifts for ventilating salescritters these days?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 04:18:09 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.


Ah, there it is. The 'male member' analogy fail.
When you have no creative, rational, and cognizant thought, inject anatomical comparos.
 
2013-01-30 04:18:39 PM  

jfarkinB: Sid_the_sadist: The problem is there is no deterrent from being a murdering cock-sucker. If a guy can kill 26 people, 20 of which are children, and get 3 hot meals, a bed, heat, water, cable tv, and sell his story to the highest bidder, where is the punishment?

You know, you're right. We should totally dig that guy up and hang him on the 50-yard line, instead of digging him up and giving him three hot meals, a bed, heat, and water that won't do anything except make him smell worse because HE ALREADY FARKING KILLED HIMSELF.

/Poe's law doesn't seem to stop anybody, either


To follow up:
www.abc.net.au
Does this guy really look like he could give a shiat on how you punish him?
How about this guy?
www.rippdemup.com
You cant convince these guys to do shiat other than hopefully take their meds. Which they didnt.
 
2013-01-30 04:18:42 PM  

MichiganFTL: [i5.photobucket.com image 550x300]

Pretty much this.


you get TF because I quote that scene daily
 
2013-01-30 04:18:49 PM  

Propain_az: Insatiable Jesus: Adolf Oliver Nipples: You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.

I don't really give a rat's ass either way, I only know that whatever enrages the RIght is good for America.

Enjoy.

I enjoy the fact that you are enraged that I have a collection of weapons and ammunition.


I am not enraged, I am amused by adults who still play army.

/plenty well armed
 
2013-01-30 04:18:56 PM  
The common thread I see in all the shootings is that the perp drove there... So, if we ban cars for everyone but the government and police, because who really needs a car, we should all be safer. Let's see someone trying to pull off a bus by shooting.
 
2013-01-30 04:19:08 PM  

H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said


why have any laws, amirite?
 
2013-01-30 04:19:16 PM  
tallen702: "it's suddenly something horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot and not a crack house or down by the docks?"

Basically.
But it's not 'suddenly' the case. It's been about 20 years since the public consciousness stopped denying the media problem and accepted it as fact.
But good for you that you can still get worked up over it.
 
2013-01-30 04:20:22 PM  
Only 3? Clearly not an assault "clip."
 
2013-01-30 04:20:54 PM  

Der Poopflinger: H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said

that's some brand of stupid you're sporting there


Please. You have to be ignorant to think that banning assault rifles or high capacity mags will stop any of this crap. People who want to do bad, will do bad, and nothing will stop them. It may cost more, or be harder to get, but when properly motivated, they'll get what they want.

Our society is in a deep, deep down-slide. We glorify violence and think that sex is okay whenever and wherever with whomever. Simultaneously, we openly accept homosexuality, which is clearly the opposite of natural. Our children are being raised more and more often in single parent (often mother) households. We're screwed as a culture, and somehow people think banning certain guns is the answer?

/smh
 
2013-01-30 04:21:14 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: It has been 0 DAYS since our last mass shooting.


This is "going postal" it appears. Not enough people to be considered "mass".

farkALL we cant even agree on the verbage! how can we agree on a solution?
 
2013-01-30 04:21:19 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?

herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?

When are you going to give me the cite I asked for in the last thread?

As for the "10,000 homicides, more than half of them are suicides and a large percentage of the remainder are criminal-on-criminal. But hey, OUTRAGE! I know, I'll spam the queue with all the automobile deaths, which should leave approximately zero room for anything else. Since we care so much about life and all, and we're not pushing agendas or anything like that.

Anyway, get me that cite, willya? Thanks ever so very much.

What cite?

The one that substantiates the claim you made here.

"But but i thought guns are easy enough to make and if they werent available criminals would just make explosives. Are you now saying that was a total lie? No..... Couldnt be.... "

You said that they make the claim in every thread. So, until such time as you admit that you're talking out of your ass or substantiate it, every time you respond to me I'm going to ask for it. Since you respond to me in every recent gun-related thread like some kind of stalker, I shouldn't be that hard to find when you're ready to put up or shut up.


Oh yeah, sorry i dont cite hyperbole. If that means youll pretend like its not repeatedly said whenever gun bans are brought up, thats your own problem.

You also think the gun homicides include suicides, so you've proven yourself to be willfully ignorant. Ill leave it to you to rectify that when you can come to terms with it.
 
2013-01-30 04:23:17 PM  

ringersol: tallen702: "it's suddenly something horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot and not a crack house or down by the docks?"

Basically.
But it's not 'suddenly' the case. It's been about 20 years since the public consciousness stopped denying the media problem and accepted it as fact.
But good for you that you can still get worked up over it.


Since when did Drew and the Modmins become "The media" I'm pretty sure Mr. Curtis wrote a book about how shiatty the media is. CNN and the network nightly news I can understand and ignore, but I thought that the Modmins were above trolling by greenlighting shiat like this... I guess not.
 
2013-01-30 04:23:19 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


Fark is part of teh liebrul lame stream MSM main stream media.
 
2013-01-30 04:23:58 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2013-01-30 04:24:53 PM  

jfarkinB: Sid_the_sadist: The problem is there is no deterrent from being a murdering cock-sucker. If a guy can kill 26 people, 20 of which are children, and get 3 hot meals, a bed, heat, water, cable tv, and sell his story to the highest bidder, where is the punishment?

You know, you're right. We should totally dig that guy up and hang him on the 50-yard line, instead of digging him up and giving him three hot meals, a bed, heat, and water that won't do anything except make him smell worse because HE ALREADY FARKING KILLED HIMSELF.

/Poe's law doesn't seem to stop anybody, either


I agree. Take his ratty ass corpse, hang it up on the 50-yard-line during Super Bowl, and let drunks pay $100 a pop to piss on his corpse. Donate the proceeds to a scholarship fund in the victims name. Take his corpse, put it in a concrete box in a hole in the ground and light it on fire. Fill the box with waste from a near by pig farm. Put a lid on the box. Fill in the hole in with dirt. Plant some poison ivy. Show it all on live television. No marker. Then walk away without ever disclosing the actual location.
 
2013-01-30 04:25:11 PM  

H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said


Uh, They are illegal and that does reduce their occurrence by quite a bit.
 
2013-01-30 04:25:39 PM  
Unfortunately my workplace has a business dress code. Hopefully if there is a shooting here I'll have time to put on my jean cut offs and then it's Death Qwan Doe time baby!
 
2013-01-30 04:25:55 PM  

H0llyw00d: Der Poopflinger: H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said

that's some brand of stupid you're sporting there

Please. You have to be ignorant to think that banning assault rifles or high capacity mags will stop any of this crap. People who want to do bad, will do bad, and nothing will stop them. It may cost more, or be harder to get, but when properly motivated, they'll get what they want.

Our society is in a deep, deep down-slide. We glorify violence and think that sex is okay whenever and wherever with whomever. Simultaneously, we openly accept homosexuality, which is clearly the opposite of natural. Our children are being raised more and more often in single parent (often mother) households. We're screwed as a culture, and somehow people think banning certain guns is the answer?

/smh


I don't even know where to start with any of that stupid you've laid out, so I'll just stick to the gun portion
If you make something difficult and more expensive to get it can rapidly demotivate an individual to get that item
 
2013-01-30 04:26:02 PM  

H0llyw00d: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 348x448]

/nuff said


spelling error. straw man argument.

8/10!
 
2013-01-30 04:26:53 PM  

DubtodaIll: I think we need to start building "Fun Parks" like they had in Farenheit 451. A place where people can do and actually destroy things in a somewhat controlled environment would do a lot of good in venting the stress that causes these kinds of tragedies. That or it would just provide a place for these nuts to practice.

On the topic of America being a violent culture, as far as I can tell from history, the world-dominant civilization has always been the most violent. It's a strong indicator that violence, while something to be avoided whenever possible by an individual, is a successful trait for a society to have and to hone. Like it or not, America's power is fueled by the power of our military might. It's a strong subtext in our culture that guns equal power. In our culture, when people feel powerless one of the choices available to them is to pick up a gun and create chaos, thus satisfying their want of power. We should make every effort to curtail these kinds of incidents by providing people with more attractive and less deadly methods of regaining their own power. Curtailing freedom, which may be a successful method of reducing these kind of events, is going to do nothing to make this a better society. It's a kneejerk solution to the problem and it will not fix it.


Machiavelli agrees.
 
2013-01-30 04:26:57 PM  

tallen702: So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

I mean, more people than that are killed in Chicago on a daily basis, same goes for Baltimore and DC. But it's suddenly something horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot and not a crack house or down by the docks?


Uh..yes it is more horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot instead of a crack house or down by the docks. Gang bangers getting shot? Who the fark cares? People in an office complex or public area get shot? News worthy.

Do you really deny that? enormous difference when the dregs of the Earth get killed vs innocent people that contribute to society.
 
2013-01-30 04:27:42 PM  

devilEther: cabbyman: They should make shooting people illegal.

Then things like this won't happen anymore.

as I said in a previous thread, why not just legalize rape since people are still being raped? if it weren't for the fear of imprisonment, i'd be grabbing boob and ass all day long. Fortunately for the ladies, there are lawa against that, so I don't do it.


That is absurd. We need sex control and you know it. Every act of sex should require a signed and notorized contract between all involved parties which should be filed with the local government before the act in question takes place. Any act of sex performed without a contract should be automatically prosecuted as a rape. This would eliminate the whole he said/she said problem and make rape a thing of the past.

If you disagree with me then you must be a rapist. Your convenience doesn't trump my right to not be raped.
 
2013-01-30 04:27:50 PM  
Look, guys, it's obvious that [proposed change] won't stop every incident of gun violence ever, so we should instead do more of the opposite.
 
2013-01-30 04:27:55 PM  

coeyagi: Wayne LaPierre flying through the air on a cloud of Eagle Feathers painted red, white and blue... could have prevented this.


Someone absolutely needs to do a photoshop of this. Preferably with plenty of flags and sparklies.

FlashHarry: OnlyM3: Lincoln (Republican) - killed by democrat conservative

MLK (Republican) - killed by democrat conservative

8/10


No, no, no! Don't you see? He's trying to demonstrate that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VIOLENT CONSERVATIVE!
 
2013-01-30 04:29:59 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: No, no, no! Don't you see? He's trying to demonstrate that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VIOLENT CONSERVATIVE!


by citing conservative violence? hmm....
 
2013-01-30 04:30:41 PM  
A bit off topic, but every time these happen and people squawk about gun control, the gun crowd panic buys everything not nailed down.

People are stockpiling ammo on a scale that would make guerrilla war fighters envious. You know, 10-20 years from now these people are going to die and their families will be stuck with ammo dumps to deal with.

It's already to the point where fire departments just back off and let these places burn to the ground.

/Hoarders. Hoarders never change.
 
2013-01-30 04:31:10 PM  

justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Yep, until they get their way and the latest gun-ban-that-won't-do-anything passes. This is how it works, once a group of people decide that they want to do something they grind away and wear down their opponents.

Since nothing is going to happen, be prepared for another few years of news flashes every time someone dies. Unless it's a criminal, because guns are only used to kill innocent people. Amirite?

herp a derp derp

There's ~10,000 gun homicides per year. So where are the other ~25 threads for today, every day?

When are you going to give me the cite I asked for in the last thread?

As for the "10,000 homicides, more than half of them are suicides and a large percentage of the remainder are criminal-on-criminal. But hey, OUTRAGE! I know, I'll spam the queue with all the automobile deaths, which should leave approximately zero room for anything else. Since we care so much about life and all, and we're not pushing agendas or anything like that.

Anyway, get me that cite, willya? Thanks ever so very much.

What cite?

The one that substantiates the claim you made here.

"But but i thought guns are easy enough to make and if they werent available criminals would just make explosives. Are you now saying that was a total lie? No..... Couldnt be.... "

You said that they make the claim in every thread. So, until such time as you admit that you're talking out of your ass or substantiate it, every time you respond to me I'm going to ask for it. Since you respond to me in every recent gun-related thread like some kind of stalker, I shouldn't be that hard to find when you're ready to put up or shut up.

Oh yeah, sorry i dont cite hyperbole. If that means youll pretend like its not repeatedly said whenever gun bans are brought up, thats your own problem.

You also think the g ...


So hyperbole=lying. Gotcha. What's another lie in an argument full of them? I'll take that as your concession to the fact that you're full of shiat.
 
2013-01-30 04:32:33 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


It's not sad that we're marking shootings with a newsflash.

It's sad that there's so many shootings that it's no longer news.
 
2013-01-30 04:32:35 PM  

Private_Citizen: A bit off topic, but every time these happen and people squawk about gun control, the gun crowd panic buys everything not nailed down.

People are stockpiling ammo on a scale that would make guerrilla war fighters envious. You know, 10-20 years from now these people are going to die and their families will be stuck with ammo dumps to deal with.

It's already to the point where fire departments just back off and let these places burn to the ground.

/Hoarders. Hoarders never change.


You are correct. And you can thank the rhetoric of President Obama and Senator Feinstein, they have probably caused the biggest run on guns and ammo in the history of the US.
 
2013-01-30 04:33:07 PM  
This is not a random shooting.

Are we going to have a NEWSFLASH every time there is a shooting now until liberals can have their way?

When you have to use misinformation to sway people to your side of an argument your side of the argument is probably wrong.
 
2013-01-30 04:33:39 PM  

netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.


What would it matter if it did? There isn't a single place in the US that isn't a few hours down the highway from somewhere else you can easily buy nearly any gun you want. So long as we allow the States to have different gun laws, we will continue to see gun-crime even in those places with decent controls because all it will take is cash and a car to get around them.
 
2013-01-30 04:34:11 PM  

pedrop357: PsiChick: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

The whole culture is debating gun control. Fark's not exempt. It  is a newsflash.

/I'd like to think murder\attempted murder would deserve a newsflash on its own...

Funny that it's only guns, only recently and things like killings without guns and/or killing by police officers goes by without so much as a greenlight, much less a newsflash. Remember the link about the LV cop who murdered his wife and son, then killed himself? Neither do I.


See the bolded.
 
2013-01-30 04:35:04 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: Are we going to have a NEWSFLASH every time there is a shooting now until liberals can have their way?


nah. they're the norm now. hell, they don't even merit a mention. is this a great country or what!
 
2013-01-30 04:36:27 PM  

Propain_az: Private_Citizen: A bit off topic, but every time these happen and people squawk about gun control, the gun crowd panic buys everything not nailed down.

People are stockpiling ammo on a scale that would make guerrilla war fighters envious. You know, 10-20 years from now these people are going to die and their families will be stuck with ammo dumps to deal with.

It's already to the point where fire departments just back off and let these places burn to the ground.

/Hoarders. Hoarders never change.

You are correct. And you can thank the rhetoric of President Obama and Senator Feinstein, they have probably caused the biggest run on guns and ammo in the history of the US.


Obama is the gun salesman of the Century.

They should put a bronze bust of the man at the entrance of every gun show...it would drive up sales.
 
2013-01-30 04:37:28 PM  

PsiChick: Funny that it's only guns, only recently and things like killings without guns and/or killing by police officers goes by without so much as a greenlight, much less a newsflash. Remember the link about the LV cop who murdered his wife and son, then killed himself? Neither do I


THIS

I'm pretty certain at this point that someone could go on a stabbing spree and it would not garner a story in the back of the local newspaper but if a kid shoots a bird with a pellet gun it would make national news.
It's actually so absurd at this point that it is almost comical.
 
2013-01-30 04:37:53 PM  
biatch and moan all you want, we're all still going to have our guns. All you anti-gun cry babies should just get with the program and arm yourselves. If you can't beat em, join em. At least you'll be safer when some crackhead wants to kill you for your watch.
 
2013-01-30 04:38:48 PM  

FlashHarry: nah. they're the norm now. hell, they don't even merit a mention. is this a great country or what!


Did you have an argument that justifies why this story deserves to be a "newsflash"? I heard there was an earthquake in Chile today...
 
2013-01-30 04:39:30 PM  
I told you all. Warned you, even. You do not walk into accounts receivables and take Herbert Kromfeld's letter-opener.
 
2013-01-30 04:42:04 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: This is not a random shooting.

Are we going to have a NEWSFLASH every time there is a shooting now until liberals can have their way?

When you have to use misinformation to sway people to your side of an argument your side of the argument is probably wrong.


Oh, so that fact that it wasn't random means guns are ok then. Right. Jesus can you not read what you just wrote? "That a disgruntled employee can plan and carry out a shooting with ease says nothing about the nature of our gun laws. If that's what gun-control advocates are using as an argument then they're a bunch of liars(?!?)".
 
2013-01-30 04:42:12 PM  
Not to make light of any situation; but are we really going to post headlines for every small shooting? If so - it will be a daily link from Chicago, Detroit, New York, etc.
 
2013-01-30 04:42:40 PM  

umad: devilEther: cabbyman: They should make shooting people illegal.

Then things like this won't happen anymore.

as I said in a previous thread, why not just legalize rape since people are still being raped? if it weren't for the fear of imprisonment, i'd be grabbing boob and ass all day long. Fortunately for the ladies, there are lawa against that, so I don't do it.

That is absurd. We need sex control and you know it. Every act of sex should require a signed and notorized contract between all involved parties which should be filed with the local government before the act in question takes place. Any act of sex performed without a contract should be automatically prosecuted as a rape. This would eliminate the whole he said/she said problem and make rape a thing of the past.

If you disagree with me then you must be a rapist. Your convenience doesn't trump my right to not be raped.


I'm not sure what is going on here, but just to be sure I'm not misunderstood I will reiterate that the law prevents me (and most others) from doing things I might otherwise do in a moment of weakness.
 
2013-01-30 04:45:08 PM  

kukukupo: Not to make light of any situation; but are we really going to post headlines for every small shooting? If so - it will be a daily link from Chicago, Detroit, New York, etc.


Rapey teachers are a staple. Why not shootings?
 
2013-01-30 04:45:20 PM  

Propain_az: Private_Citizen: A bit off topic, but every time these happen and people squawk about gun control, the gun crowd panic buys everything not nailed down.

People are stockpiling ammo on a scale that would make guerrilla war fighters envious. You know, 10-20 years from now these people are going to die and their families will be stuck with ammo dumps to deal with.

It's already to the point where fire departments just back off and let these places burn to the ground.

/Hoarders. Hoarders never change.

You are correct. And you can thank the rhetoric of President Obama and Senator Feinstein, they have probably caused the biggest run on guns and ammo in the history of the US.


*Eye Roll* What has he said to scare gun owners? The rhetoric behind this hoarding isn't coming from Obama, it's coming from gun manufacturers and the right-wing polemicists they hold on retainer to spook you fools into reaching for steel every time a Dem or a Minority gets mentioned on the news.
 
2013-01-30 04:45:23 PM  
Oops, apologies ImageShack is not cooperating. Let me try this again:

i.imgur.com

Or you can see it here.
 
2013-01-30 04:48:14 PM  

Heron: Oh, so that fact that it wasn't random means guns are ok then. Right. Jesus can you not read what you just wrote? "That a disgruntled employee can plan and carry out a shooting with ease says nothing about the nature of our gun laws. If that's what gun-control advocates are using as an argument then they're a bunch of liars(?!?)".


I said nothing of the sort. Please focus on what I'm saying:
Treating this story as National news is implying that it was a random shooting since other shootings do not garner half the attention as this. Doing so is an attempt to frame the story and advertise it as a random shooting to (unethically) sway people towards one side of an argument. If you feel strongly about your argument for more gun laws then argue your points. Misinformation is unhealthy for everyone.
 
2013-01-30 04:48:34 PM  

Pert: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

That is what happens in normal countries...


Unless its a black person.
 
2013-01-30 04:49:00 PM  

Damili: [www.virtualstapler.com image 450x215]


yes!
 
2013-01-30 04:49:10 PM  
FlashHarry

according to pro-gun farkers, it is. it doesn't even warrant a news flash!

Yes, it's gun owners who are suppressing the news:

Just from the past couple weeks

The links those with an agenda are afraid to greenlight.
AKA: Why do you need more than 10 rounds
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Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder
Link
A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.

The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar.

But the man eventually found the family.


The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets
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1 dead, 4 jailed after failed robbery
Link
...Anthony Barwick, 20, of Dayton, was shot in the leg. He was treated and released into police custody. Barwick, along with London Norman, 23, Deron McGuire Jr., 23, and Tavaughn Lewis, 19, the other men police said were involved in the home invasion, are all being held in the Greene County Jail on charges of felony aggravated burglary, aggravated robbery, and kidnapping.

Police said the men went to the house with the intent to rob the occupants....

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Link
When the first units arrived they learned a mother and a 6-year-old child were home alone when three Hispanic males broke into the home.
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Homeowner shoots armed burglar in the buttocks
Link
...the homeowner had Stewart at gunpoint when he told the homeowner that he was not going back to jail. That is when Stewart drew a pistol from his jacket and shot at the homeowner. The homeowner returned fire and shot Stewart in the buttocks. ...
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Father of Sandy Hook victim speaks out on gun violence
Link
*Video link
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AR-15 Used to Stop Home Invasion Robbery in New York
Link
... the RIT student noticed two men standing in the downstairs portion of his apartment.

"They were waiting for me at the bottom of the stairs," said Boise.

One of them had a handgun trained on Boise.

Within moments, Boise screamed. His cries were heard by his roommate, Raymond.

"It wasn't like a, 'I stepped by stepped on a piece of glass' kind of scream," Raymond said. "So, I instinctively went to my gun bag."

Raymond owns an AR-15 which is a military style rifle...
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Gutsy grandma shoots at robber after attack
56-year-old grandmother from Clinton Township attacked
Link
...The 56-year-old grandmother and great grandmother from Clinton Township has a permit to carry a gun, and when she was attacked on a city bus, she used it....
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D.C. man who shot dogs biting boy
Link
three pit bulls attacked an 11-year-old boy as he rode his bicycle through the Brightwood neighborhood of Northwest, according to a police report.

...When the man, a neighbor, saw the boy being mauled by the dogs, he went inside his home and got a gun. The man killed one of the dogs....

And in true PD fasion. The PD is going after this hero for doing thier job better than they do it.
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Armed Homeowner in Ohio Captures Two Daytime Burglars
Link
An Ohio homeowner came home during the day and found a man burglarizing his home. The homeowner, who has a concealed weapons permit, drew his gun and ordered the suspect to the ground.

*So much for idiot farker myth that gun owners will just open fire.
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Gun owner stops robbery
Link
Set against the backdrop of a national debate over gun control, a shooting early Tuesday in a Stone Oak-area subdivision that left one burglary suspect dead and another critically injured
 
2013-01-30 04:49:19 PM  
Sure it wasn't just this guy?

www.luminomagazine.com

/Can't believe this hasn't shown up yet
 
2013-01-30 04:49:33 PM  
At what point does the 'news flash' tag stop being applicable?
 
2013-01-30 04:50:07 PM  
if anyone turns on the news, there's almost always a story about a shooting somewhere.. it's depressingly common.. and in most of these cases it's someone going into a school, theater, office, etc and shooting unarmed victims. this is tragic and it understandably makes headlines. but in these cases, one can't possibly deny that this wouldn't happen if the guns were not available to these people. no other weapon enables a user to do so much damage so easily, it's incredibly dangerous, by definition, and as such I fully support tight regulation to keep it out of the hands of idiotic, psychotic, alcoholic, irrational people and instead in the hands of responsible, disciplined, cool-headed, trained owners. I think we can all agree on this ideal. but to enforce it, one can't help but admit that gun ownership must be treated more as a privilege than a right.
 
2013-01-30 04:50:10 PM  

Heron: Propain_az: Private_Citizen: A bit off topic, but every time these happen and people squawk about gun control, the gun crowd panic buys everything not nailed down.

People are stockpiling ammo on a scale that would make guerrilla war fighters envious. You know, 10-20 years from now these people are going to die and their families will be stuck with ammo dumps to deal with.

It's already to the point where fire departments just back off and let these places burn to the ground.

/Hoarders. Hoarders never change.

You are correct. And you can thank the rhetoric of President Obama and Senator Feinstein, they have probably caused the biggest run on guns and ammo in the history of the US.

*Eye Roll* What has he said to scare gun owners? The rhetoric behind this hoarding isn't coming from Obama, it's coming from gun manufacturers and the right-wing polemicists they hold on retainer to spook you fools into reaching for steel every time a Dem or a Minority gets mentioned on the news.


Go read the statements from the President and Feinstein. In any case, any time any President says that we need to control, regulate, ban, etc. any product, commodity, service, etc. it creates demand for that product, commodity, service, etc. In addition, I hardly think that people reach for "steel" every time somebody is mentioned on the news.
 
2013-01-30 04:50:18 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: So hyperbole=lying. Gotcha. What's another lie in an argument full of them? I'll take that as your concession to the fact that you're full of shiat.


No, that's not what hyperbole means. And so far, you're the only proven liar, Mr. 10k Homicides include suicides.

Then again, these are all still personal problems partaining only to you
 
2013-01-30 04:52:47 PM  
What, now every shooting in the USA is going to be greenlit?

I understand the newtown thing being worthy, but every shooting?

How about we green light every death caused by fast food as well.
 
SH
2013-01-30 04:55:13 PM  
Why are gun owners such drama queens?

All conservatives for that matter.
 
2013-01-30 04:59:57 PM  

Heron: tallen702: So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

I mean, more people than that are killed in Chicago on a daily basis, same goes for Baltimore and DC. But it's suddenly something horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot and not a crack house or down by the docks?

No they're not you ass. Three people a day would be a 900+ out of 100,000 per year murder rate, and no place in the US has anything near that high.


Wiki says Chicago had 506 homicides last year. So, more than 1/day. And in the story, 0 people were murdered. So really, more people are murdered every day in Chicago than were killed in this shooting (so far; I suppose the one in critical condition could die).
 
2013-01-30 05:01:08 PM  

SH: Why are gun owners such drama queens?

All conservatives for that matter.


You shouldn't even be here, I pulled out of your mom way early.

//lude
 
2013-01-30 05:01:54 PM  

SH: Why are gun owners such drama queens?

All conservatives for that matter.


I'm a liberal, and I own a gun. I'm also gay, so maybe the 'queen' part fits.

I'd be interested to know: There was an office shooting in Minneapolis in September of last year that resulted in four fatalities; did that get a 'News Flash' tag? If not, then seems like decent corroboration of the idea that this is only a 'News Flash' because of current anti-gun sentiment.
 
2013-01-30 05:03:43 PM  

tallen702: So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

I mean, more people than that are killed in Chicago on a daily basis, same goes for Baltimore and DC. But it's suddenly something horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot and not a crack house or down by the docks?


one is now dead. asshat.
 
2013-01-30 05:05:38 PM  

aelat: Heron: tallen702: So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

I mean, more people than that are killed in Chicago on a daily basis, same goes for Baltimore and DC. But it's suddenly something horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot and not a crack house or down by the docks?

No they're not you ass. Three people a day would be a 900+ out of 100,000 per year murder rate, and no place in the US has anything near that high.

Wiki says Chicago had 506 homicides last year. So, more than 1/day. And in the story, 0 people were murdered. So really, more people are murdered every day in Chicago than were killed in this shooting (so far; I suppose the one in critical condition could die).


But but but guns .... Warblegabble...glurt....glurt.... I'm fark...slurp slurp slurp....and I'm afraid of guns.....gurgle, slurp, gag, gag, glurt, slurp...guns...Guns...GUNS...Ahhhhh.......swallow

/liberal self fellatio
 
2013-01-30 05:05:46 PM  
Man, what can we do about all this goddam traffic? It's backed up to like, forever, again! I know! More cars! That'll fix the problem.

Love,
The Auto Industry
 
2013-01-30 05:06:46 PM  
www.cvs.com

www.cvs.com

www.cvs.com


/Roll on, Farkers
 
2013-01-30 05:08:09 PM  
This wouldn't happen if we would just lower corporate tax rate and lower the income tax rates.
 
2013-01-30 05:09:35 PM  
But lets keep ignoring the elephant in the room, there was like what 1 person that went postal with a gun in between 1492 and the early 1980s when the congressional dems and St. Ronnie decided that you shouldn't be able to lock crazy people in a sanitarium unless they had already tried killing someone, including right through the 1930s when you could be a felon and buy a full auto tommy gun with a 100 round mag with no background check from a hardware store. But yes(being sarcastic) guns are the problem not crazy people, right?
 
2013-01-30 05:10:28 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: Did you have an argument that justifies why this story deserves to be a "newsflash"?


um, i dunno... the fact that there was a mass shooting at a workplace?

or are you saying that it's not news. or at least not newsflash-worthy.
 
2013-01-30 05:11:11 PM  

justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: So hyperbole=lying. Gotcha. What's another lie in an argument full of them? I'll take that as your concession to the fact that you're full of shiat.


No, that's not what hyperbole means. And so far, you're the only proven liar, Mr. 10k Homicides include suicides.

Then again, these are all still personal problems partaining only to you


No, a mistake is not a lie. I made a mistake, I own it. You just made shiat up. Nobody said what you said they said. Hence, lie.
 
2013-01-30 05:11:47 PM  

tallen702: So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?


Since fark became a 24-hour douch-infested liberal circle-jerk.

It really never used to be this way. There was a time when it was actually fairly balanced and not biased. That goes for both mods and community. The last few years this site has really declined. It is now cringe-worthy levels of maximum agenda-based smug liberal douchebaggery on a daily basis. Which is why I rarely go to this site any more.

I have no idea what happened, maybe that's what pays the bills or something.
 
2013-01-30 05:12:59 PM  
www.southwickszoo.com
 
2013-01-30 05:13:35 PM  

Sid_the_sadist: The problem is there is no deterrent from being a murdering cock-sucker.


The problem with your logic is that countries that have banned the death penalty have far lower murder rates than we do.
 
2013-01-30 05:15:22 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Mija: People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns.

Of course.  And, I'm sure they'll just find something as efficient at killing as a semi-automatic is.

Like...  I don't know...  maybe a hammer?


bath tub.
 
2013-01-30 05:16:33 PM  

Evil High Priest: Vodka Zombie: Mija: People who want to kill people will do it even if you destroy all guns.

Of course.  And, I'm sure they'll just find something as efficient at killing as a semi-automatic is.

Like...  I don't know...  maybe a hammer?

bath tub.


bath tub? you a bad motherfarker!
 
2013-01-30 05:16:47 PM  

amquelbettamin: What, now every shooting in the USA is going to be greenlit?

I understand the newtown thing being worthy, but every shooting?

How about we green light every death caused by fast food as well.


Those footlong subs have a very high Ballistic Coefficient.
 
2013-01-30 05:17:26 PM  

amquelbettamin: What, now every shooting in the USA is going to be greenlit?

I understand the newtown thing being worthy, but every shooting?

How about we green light every death caused by fast food as well.


It's not like anyone is holding a gun to your head and making your read it.
 
2013-01-30 05:18:38 PM  

libranoelrose: It must be the heat.


It's not so much the heat, but the lack of humidity.
 
2013-01-30 05:18:58 PM  

AgonistAlex: tallen702: So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

I mean, more people than that are killed in Chicago on a daily basis, same goes for Baltimore and DC. But it's suddenly something horrifying when it happens in an office complex parking lot and not a crack house or down by the docks?

one is now dead. asshat.


Still not national news worthy...
 
2013-01-30 05:19:55 PM  
From now on I submit all links with "newsflash" tag. I recommend everyone else do the same.
 
2013-01-30 05:20:31 PM  

amquelbettamin: But but but guns .... Warblegabble...glurt....glurt.... I'm fark...slurp slurp slurp....and I'm afraid of guns.....gurgle, slurp, gag, gag, glurt, slurp...guns...Guns...GUNS...Ahhhhh.......swallow

/liberal self fellatio


NOT A FETISH.
 
2013-01-30 05:25:25 PM  

ExpressPork: From now on I submit all links with "newsflash" tag. I recommend everyone else do the same.


lol! mass shootings aren't newsflash worthy! they're everyday events like robberies or hit-and-runs! no big deal! pay no attention!
 
2013-01-30 05:25:55 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Gunfappers


likelikelike
 
2013-01-30 05:26:41 PM  

OnlyM3: AKA: Why do you need more than 10 rounds


For the most part, the answer to that seems to be "because the idiots opening fire keep missing".

Good argument. Nothing like stray bullets flying at random around the neighborhood to prove how "responsible" gun owners are thwarting crimes and should have access to even more firepower.
 
2013-01-30 05:27:07 PM  

FlashHarry: ExpressPork: From now on I submit all links with "newsflash" tag. I recommend everyone else do the same.

lol! mass shootings aren't newsflash worthy! they're everyday events like robberies or hit-and-runs! no big deal! pay no attention!


Fark needs a Ho-Hum tag, I guess.
 
2013-01-30 05:27:56 PM  

ExpressPork: tallen702: So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

Since fark became a 24-hour douch-infested liberal circle-jerk.

It really never used to be this way. There was a time when it was actually fairly balanced and not biased. That goes for both mods and community. The last few years this site has really declined. It is now cringe-worthy levels of maximum agenda-based smug liberal douchebaggery on a daily basis. Which is why I rarely go to this site any more.

I have no idea what happened, maybe that's what pays the bills or something.


I suppose the possibility that U.S. demographics, and, hence, popular opinion, might be changing is just too far-fetched for your consideration, eh?
 
2013-01-30 05:30:11 PM  

ExpressPork: Since fark became a 24-hour douch-infested liberal circle-jerk.


i29.tinypic.com
 
2013-01-30 05:30:47 PM  

knowless: i know americans are dumb and there schools suck


Yeah, they am, and them sure does.
 
2013-01-30 05:31:21 PM  
Crazy assed white folk.
 
2013-01-30 05:31:33 PM  
Subby is a liberal douchebag.

That is all.
 
2013-01-30 05:31:39 PM  

ExpressPork: From now on I submit all links with "newsflash" tag. I recommend everyone else do the same.


u mad
 
2013-01-30 05:31:58 PM  

FlashHarry: ExpressPork: From now on I submit all links with "newsflash" tag. I recommend everyone else do the same.

lol! mass shootings aren't newsflash worthy! they're everyday events like robberies or hit-and-runs! no big deal! pay no attention!


Numerous pre-Newton mass office shootings - many that resulted in actual deaths - that were not considered 'Newsflash!' worthy.

Not that Fark's headline tags are really a textbook example of accuracy but :P
 
2013-01-30 05:32:34 PM  

ExpressPork: The last few years this site has really declined. It is now cringe-worthy levels of maximum agenda-based smug liberal douchebaggery on a daily basis. Which is why I rarely go to this site any more.


this is hilarious... considering the shiatloads of greenlit links from WND, newsmax, fox, the blaze, daily caller, malkin, PJM, NRO, business insider, breitbart, etc... that are regularly posted to the main page.
 
2013-01-30 05:34:01 PM  

ExpressPork: tallen702: So, since when is a shooting involving 3 people, all injured none dead, suddenly front-page FARK-worthy?

Since fark became a 24-hour douch-infested liberal circle-jerk.

It really never used to be this way. There was a time when it was actually fairly balanced and not biased. That goes for both mods and community. The last few years this site has really declined. It is now cringe-worthy levels of maximum agenda-based smug liberal douchebaggery on a daily basis. Which is why I rarely go to this site any more.

I have no idea what happened, maybe that's what pays the bills or something.


Member since 2004, lurked for about a year before. I'm ready for a switch. Fark's gotten old and tired. What's a good substitute funny/weird news sites with an active posting community? Preferably >90% American or so?
 
2013-01-30 05:34:34 PM  

xaratherus: Numerous pre-Newton mass office shootings - many that resulted in actual deaths - that were not considered 'Newsflash!' worthy.


[citation needed]

prior to newtown, every mass shooting, from arizona to colorado to wisconsin, was a newsflash as i recall.
 
2013-01-30 05:35:15 PM  

amquelbettamin: Member since 2004, lurked for about a year before. I'm ready for a switch. Fark's gotten old and tired. What's a good substitute funny/weird news sites with an active posting community? Preferably >90% American or so?


i38.tinypic.com
 
2013-01-30 05:35:37 PM  

Oldiron_79: there was like what 1 person that went postal with a gun in between 1492 and the early 1980s


Simone Pianetti
Howard Unruh
Charlie Starkweather
Charles Whitman
Mark James Robert Essex
James Ruppert
Edward Charles

But whatever. Why use facts and shiat when you can just make up silly stuff and post it randomly, right?
 
2013-01-30 05:37:34 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Oldiron_79: there was like what 1 person that went postal with a gun in between 1492 and the early 1980s

Simone Pianetti
Howard Unruh
Charlie Starkweather
Charles Whitman
Mark James Robert Essex
James Ruppert
Edward Charles

But whatever. Why use facts and shiat when you can just make up silly stuff and post it randomly, right?


Oh. And here's a whole Wiki article just on shootings that occurred in U.S. schools as far back as the 1700s.
 
2013-01-30 05:38:22 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: I'm getting really tired of resetting the Too Soon To Talk About It clock.


Just ask Ray Lewis to do it for you. He resets it every day.
 
2013-01-30 05:39:57 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: . And here's a whole Wiki article just on shootings that occurred in U.S. schools as far back as the 1700s.


jesus. the increase in the 2000s and 2010s is alarming.
 
2013-01-30 05:40:21 PM  

FlashHarry: ExpressPork: The last few years this site has really declined. It is now cringe-worthy levels of maximum agenda-based smug liberal douchebaggery on a daily basis. Which is why I rarely go to this site any more.

this is hilarious... considering the shiatloads of greenlit links from WND, newsmax, fox, the blaze, daily caller, malkin, PJM, NRO, business insider, breitbart, etc... that are regularly posted to the main page.


The conservative saw his shadow, back to the echo chamber for 6 more weeks.
 
2013-01-30 05:46:02 PM  

FlashHarry: lol! mass shootings aren't newsflash worthy


This isn't a mass shooting, nor is it "random" as is the case with the other tragic recent events. Did you happen to read the article?
 
2013-01-30 05:49:58 PM  

ExpressPork: This isn't a mass shooting, nor is it "random" as is the case with the other tragic recent events. Did you happen to read the article?


three people shot isn't a mass shooting?

just what, pray tell, constitutes a "mass" shooting? five shot? ten? fifteen?

and what does "random" have to do with anything?
 
2013-01-30 05:49:58 PM  

The Why Not Guy: netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.

No, it's because we took God out of the cubicles.

/your team is just as retarded as mine.


Quit the team and think for yourself.
 
2013-01-30 05:53:32 PM  
Psycat:
/was at Tucson last year for the Festival of Books
//Tucsonites? Tucsononians? Tucsoners? told me several times that they were jokingly considering seceding from the rest of Arizona to form the state of South Arizona


Tucsonans. And we weren't joking.
 
2013-01-30 05:57:41 PM  
Jesus, do we need a newsflash EVERY time there is a gun shooting? There is a shooting all the time. There are DUI drives ALL THE TIME. Lets newsflash everytime someone is killed by a drunk driver. Then talk about banning booze.
 
2013-01-30 05:58:33 PM  

FlashHarry: ExpressPork: This isn't a mass shooting, nor is it "random" as is the case with the other tragic recent events. Did you happen to read the article?

three people shot isn't a mass shooting?

just what, pray tell, constitutes a "mass" shooting? five shot? ten? fifteen?

and what does "random" have to do with anything?


It's a crabby old man who thought a gun would solve his problems. And he's still at large. In my neighborhood. Yay.
 
2013-01-30 06:00:30 PM  

SeaMonkey311: Jesus, do we need a newsflash EVERY time there is a gun shooting? There is a shooting all the time.


oh hai. you must be new here.

shooting one person: not newsflash. going to an office building and shooting three people: newsflash.

get it?
 
2013-01-30 06:04:06 PM  

FlashHarry: ExpressPork: Since fark became a 24-hour douch-infested liberal circle-jerk.

[i29.tinypic.com image 596x394]


you forgot: fabulous, god-hating and anti-christian, but close enough

if you got a problem with that we'll just delete your posts

go cry moar emo poster
 
2013-01-30 06:05:07 PM  

FlashHarry: SeaMonkey311: Jesus, do we need a newsflash EVERY time there is a gun shooting? There is a shooting all the time.

oh hai. you must be new here.

shooting one person: not newsflash. going to an office building and shooting three people: newsflash.

get it?

 I didn't realize there was also a victims quota that needed to be reached before it deserved the newsflash. So enlightening
 
2013-01-30 06:05:26 PM  
 
2013-01-30 06:06:44 PM  
Clearly, banning assault weapons and hi-cap magazines would've prevented this crime.
 
2013-01-30 06:08:40 PM  

SeaMonkey311: FlashHarry: SeaMonkey311: Jesus, do we need a newsflash EVERY time there is a gun shooting? There is a shooting all the time.

oh hai. you must be new here.

shooting one person: not newsflash. going to an office building and shooting three people: newsflash.

get it?
 I didn't realize there was also a victims quota that needed to be reached before it deserved the newsflash. So enlightening


Who knew someone could be so concerned about a tag on FARK....not so enlightening.
 
2013-01-30 06:09:16 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


Nope. It happens every day. And everyday somebody defends the right of criminals to carry those guns, but not to use them.


SeaMonkey311: Jesus, do we need a newsflash EVERY time there is a gun shooting? There is a shooting all the time. There are DUI drives ALL THE TIME. Lets newsflash everytime someone is killed by a drunk driver. Then talk about banning booze.


2009 gun deaths =  31,672; motor vehicle deaths = 33,687

Yup, it's normal. Let's just ignore it. It's the Patriotic thing to do.
 
2013-01-30 06:11:47 PM  

SeaMonkey311: Jesus, do we need a newsflash EVERY time there is a gun shooting?


If it continues to make you look even more butthurt, then yes.  Yes, we do.
 
2013-01-30 06:11:55 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.

This is Arizona. No such thing as a gun-free zone. (Legally, maybe, but we likes our guns 'round here, boy.)

It's not like this is a rare occurrence. My husband has witnessed two workplace shootings in Phoenix. One outside a transmission shop in Sunnyslope while he was on his way to pick up his mom when her car broke down, and one right next to his workplace as he was pulling into the parking lot. I'm sure he's relieved he didn't have to see this one.


You should treat him to a movie at your local theater complex!
 
2013-01-30 06:12:34 PM  
So?  Someone in the world has been shot every single day going back at least a couple of hundred years  About 150 thousand people die every single day.  Some of then are shot.   The troubling statistic is that more than twice that many are born every single day.   Overpopulation will likely be one of the biggest problems facing future generations.  Could make the argument that this guy was doing the world a small favor by thinning the herd by a small bit..
 
2013-01-30 06:12:42 PM  

diddletwat: CheetahOlivetti: netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.

This is Arizona. No such thing as a gun-free zone. (Legally, maybe, but we likes our guns 'round here, boy.)

It's not like this is a rare occurrence. My husband has witnessed two workplace shootings in Phoenix. One outside a transmission shop in Sunnyslope while he was on his way to pick up his mom when her car broke down, and one right next to his workplace as he was pulling into the parking lot. I'm sure he's relieved he didn't have to see this one.

You should treat him to a movie at your local theater complex!


Only after picking up the kids from school.
 
2013-01-30 06:13:43 PM  

xaratherus: SH: Why are gun owners such drama queens?

All conservatives for that matter.

I'm a liberal, and I own a gun. I'm also gay, so maybe the 'queen' part fits.

I'd be interested to know: There was an office shooting in Minneapolis in September of last year that resulted in four fatalities; did that get a 'News Flash' tag? If not, then seems like decent corroboration of the idea that this is only a 'News Flash' because of current anti-gun sentiment.


Drew needs hits, hence the banner asking us not to use ad-block.  More gun threads = more cash.
 
2013-01-30 06:14:50 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: SeaMonkey311: Jesus, do we need a newsflash EVERY time there is a gun shooting?

If it continues to make you look even more butthurt, then yes.  Yes, we do.


Did you power jump to that conclusion?
 
2013-01-30 06:15:31 PM  

edmo: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Nope. It happens every day. And everyday somebody defends the right of criminals to carry those guns, but not to use them.


SeaMonkey311: Jesus, do we need a newsflash EVERY time there is a gun shooting? There is a shooting all the time. There are DUI drives ALL THE TIME. Lets newsflash everytime someone is killed by a drunk driver. Then talk about banning booze.

2009 gun deaths =  31,672; motor vehicle deaths = 33,687

Yup, it's normal. Let's just ignore it. It's the Patriotic thing to do.


I don't think anyone has every defended the right for criminals to carry weapons. Also, how much lower do you think that number goes if you ban guns?
 
2013-01-30 06:16:09 PM  
Oh look.

Another gun thread with way too many comments.
 
2013-01-30 06:16:20 PM  

kombat_unit: Did you power jump to that conclusion?


It was a very easy conclusion to make.
 
2013-01-30 06:18:27 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: diddletwat: CheetahOlivetti: netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.

This is Arizona. No such thing as a gun-free zone. (Legally, maybe, but we likes our guns 'round here, boy.)

It's not like this is a rare occurrence. My husband has witnessed two workplace shootings in Phoenix. One outside a transmission shop in Sunnyslope while he was on his way to pick up his mom when her car broke down, and one right next to his workplace as he was pulling into the parking lot. I'm sure he's relieved he didn't have to see this one.

You should treat him to a movie at your local theater complex!

Only after picking up the kids from school.


I did give him shiat for a while about not wanting to go anywhere with him. The Sunnyslope shooting was the worst. A former employee gunned down the shop owner in the middle of the street as my husband was driving by, and while he was talking to me on his cell phone. His mom was at a gas station, and he couldn't find her because she gave him the wrong street. So the conversation went something like this:
Hubby: "Are you sure she said Cave Creek? I don't see her. Oh, there's a dead guy in the road. Also, the daycare called and said <kid> has a fever. Can you pick him up?"
Me: "Wait. Go back one."
 
2013-01-30 06:18:39 PM  
Vegan Meat Popsicle: Oldiron_79: there was like what 1 person that went postal with a gun in between 1492 and the early 1980s

Simone Pianetti
Howard Unruh
Charlie Starkweather
Charles Whitman
Mark James Robert Essex
James Ruppert
Edward Charles

But whatever. Why use facts and shiat when you can just make up silly stuff and post it randomly, right?


OK so there was like a 6 month supply of shootings over a 400 year time span instead of the only 1 I have ever heard of (Whitman) I still think my point basically stands
 
2013-01-30 06:20:00 PM  
So is Reddit a good Fark substitute?
 
2013-01-30 06:23:31 PM  

amquelbettamin: So is Reddit a good Fark substitute?


No.
 
2013-01-30 06:23:44 PM  
Why is every shooting being sensationalized nowadays?  10 years ago this normal news.  Now whenever someone even buys a bullet it's a farking news flash.
 
2013-01-30 06:24:55 PM  

whidbey: amquelbettamin: So is Reddit a good Fark substitute?

No.


Damn. Maybe I'll just resist the temptation of opening gun threads.
 
2013-01-30 06:26:30 PM  

amquelbettamin: whidbey: amquelbettamin: So is Reddit a good Fark substitute?

No.

Damn. Maybe I'll just resist the temptation of opening gun threads.


It's not that hard to just not open a thread for a subject you aren't interested in.  Well that's what i thought but apparently the FAUX outrage about using newsflash for a thread about people dying has proven me wrong.
 
2013-01-30 06:26:43 PM  

edmo: 2009 gun deaths = 31,672; motor vehicle deaths = 33,687

Yup, it's normal. Let's just ignore it. It's the Patriotic thing to do.


Nice try.  60+% of those deaths are suicide.  Other countries like Japan, South Korea, and even Australia have similar or higher suicide rates and very restrictive gun laws.
 
2013-01-30 06:27:31 PM  

smittyg: Why is every shooting being sensationalized nowadays?  10 years ago this normal news.  Now whenever someone even buys a bullet it's a farking news flash.


Exactly the point I was getting at. Yes, it is a tragedy and there should be a little more done but I think they are going to extremes right now in their regulations. It's lik after 9/11 when they allowed wire tapping, made the TSA with screeners along with everything else. They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
 
2013-01-30 06:28:32 PM  
So by everyone's definition then how did this somehow slipped through the newsflash cracks yesterday?

Was there even a greenlit thread about it?
 
2013-01-30 06:28:46 PM  

SeaMonkey311: smittyg: Why is every shooting being sensationalized nowadays?  10 years ago this normal news.  Now whenever someone even buys a bullet it's a farking news flash.

Exactly the point I was getting at. Yes, it is a tragedy and there should be a little more done but I think they are going to extremes right now in their regulations. It's lik after 9/11 when they allowed wire tapping, made the TSA with screeners along with everything else. They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


Which new regulation is far right?  Please enlighten me.
 
2013-01-30 06:30:41 PM  
Clearly the answer is more guns.
 
2013-01-30 06:31:06 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: So hyperbole=lying. Gotcha. What's another lie in an argument full of them? I'll take that as your concession to the fact that you're full of shiat.


No, that's not what hyperbole means. And so far, you're the only proven liar, Mr. 10k Homicides include suicides.

Then again, these are all still personal problems partaining only to you

No, a mistake is not a lie. I made a mistake, I own it. You just made shiat up. Nobody said what you said they said. Hence, lie.


Here you go. I didn't have to search, one just came up, because like I said, the argument gets made all the time. Please proceed to set the bar to a new level now, liar.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7565295/82224463#c82224463" target=_blank data-cke-saved-href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7565295/82224463#c8 2224463">Frank N Stein: Evil High Priest: Can't we just outlaw bullets? Does the 2nd Amendment say anything about ammunition?

Because casting lead is so farking difficult.


http://www.fark.com/comments/7565295/Wayne-LaPierre-Background-checks - wont-catch-bad-guys-because-theyll-simply-not-buy-a-gun-to-avoid-being -caught-Sen-Durbin-Thats-farking-point-idiot?startid=82224374
 
2013-01-30 06:32:51 PM  

amquelbettamin: So is Reddit a good Fark substitute?


It can be.  It's vastly superior to Fark in both the breadth and depth of discussions/topics available.
 
2013-01-30 06:38:59 PM  

justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: justtray: Adolf Oliver Nipples: So hyperbole=lying. Gotcha. What's another lie in an argument full of them? I'll take that as your concession to the fact that you're full of shiat.


No, that's not what hyperbole means. And so far, you're the only proven liar, Mr. 10k Homicides include suicides.

Then again, these are all still personal problems partaining only to you

No, a mistake is not a lie. I made a mistake, I own it. You just made shiat up. Nobody said what you said they said. Hence, lie.

Here you go. I didn't have to search, one just came up, because like I said, the argument gets made all the time. Please proceed to set the bar to a new level now, liar.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7565295/82224463#c82224463" target=_blank data-cke-saved-href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7565295/82224463#c8 2224463">Frank N Stein: Evil High Priest: Can't we just outlaw bullets? Does the 2nd Amendment say anything about ammunition?

Because casting lead is so farking difficult.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7565295/Wayne-LaPierre-Background-checks - wont-catch-bad-guys-because-theyll-simply-not-buy-a-gun-to-avoid-being -caught-Sen-Durbin-Thats-farking-point-idiot?startid=82224374


And what does that have to do with explosives? Nothing. But that doesn't matter, because you can make shiat up and call it "hyperbole".
 
2013-01-30 06:39:13 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Could make the argument that this guy was doing the world a small favor by thinning the herd by a small bit..


Funny how people who "could" make this argument never jump to the forefront of volunteers offering to continue thinning the herd by taking themselves out.
 
2013-01-30 06:39:33 PM  
So a 70 year old just ended a 48 year old's life. What a farking waste.
 
2013-01-30 06:40:47 PM  
This list just keeps getting longer:  We must arm the teachers, school bus drivers, the janitors, the principals, and co-workers in a cubical atmosphere. We need 2 armed law enforcement at every school, university, pre-school, military bases (wait..what?), theaters, malls...AND we now need to arm the school bus drivers. Did we ever arm the postal workers?
 
2013-01-30 06:47:30 PM  
img1.fark.net 1500 innocent people died of cancer today in the US alone.
 
2013-01-30 06:51:20 PM  

santadog: This list just keeps getting longer:  We must arm the teachers, school bus drivers, the janitors, the principals, and co-workers in a cubical atmosphere. We need 2 armed law enforcement at every school, university, pre-school, military bases (wait..what?), theaters, malls...AND we now need to arm the school bus drivers. Did we ever arm the postal workers?


Makes you wonder... if we must arm or disarm everybody, which would be easier?
 
2013-01-30 06:51:37 PM  

Bisu: [img1.fark.net image 54x11] 1500 innocent people died of cancer today in the US alone.


We should ban cancer.
 
2013-01-30 06:52:01 PM  
ksaz.images.worldnow.com
Arthur Harmon - Suspect
 
2013-01-30 07:01:57 PM  

China White Tea: amquelbettamin: So is Reddit a good Fark substitute?

It can be.  It's vastly superior to Fark in both the breadth and depth of discussions/topics available.


Cool, guess I'll dip my toe in there a bit too
 
2013-01-30 07:02:30 PM  
The nineties are back with a vegence!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGNALZL6ZoM
 
2013-01-30 07:06:37 PM  

Bisu: [img1.fark.net image 54x11] 1500 innocent people died of cancer today in the US alone.


In a bed, after a long battle, as opposed to unexpectedly having their brains blown out in public.

Yeah, same thing.

/farking idiots.
 
2013-01-30 07:07:20 PM  

TommyymmoT: [ksaz.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]
Arthur Harmon - Suspect


Thought he was dead.

www.sitcomsonline.com
 
2013-01-30 07:08:51 PM  
So now the defense mechanism is the old "why is this news?" blame-the-media angle.

What's next, rationalizing that death by gun is better than death by old age?  Because you're running out of deflections.
 
2013-01-30 07:11:14 PM  

Molavian: Bisu: [img1.fark.net image 54x11] 1500 innocent people died of cancer today in the US alone.

We should ban cancer.


standupcomedyclinic.com

Or we could "declare war" on it, but still not have to do anything constructive.
 
2013-01-30 07:12:31 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.


Sounds like the Crimson Permanent Assurance stirred up some trouble.

Bisu: [img1.fark.net image 54x11] 1500 innocent people died of cancer today in the US alone.


Good point. Let's ban tobacco.
 
2013-01-30 07:18:58 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


No, otherwise you'd see 30,000 + news flashes about gun related deaths in the USA each year. ( wiki )
 
2013-01-30 07:22:00 PM  

ExpressPork: So by everyone's definition then how did this somehow slipped through the newsflash cracks yesterday?

Was there even a greenlit thread about it?


Doesn't fit the agenda BRA. Knives don't kill people, people kill people.
 
2013-01-30 07:22:41 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


Wouldn't it be nice if it gun crime was a newsflash, like it is in civilized countries?
 
2013-01-30 07:23:42 PM  
applejack.ponychan.net
 
2013-01-30 07:24:37 PM  
someone should shoot these people that keep shooting people.
 
2013-01-30 07:30:21 PM  

nerdoverlord: someone should shoot these people that keep shooting people.


That's the best part:  in the winter, the shooter-shooters just freeze to death!
 
2013-01-30 07:37:43 PM  
Wanted for questioning
 
2013-01-30 07:45:15 PM  

Wyalt Derp: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Wouldn't it be nice if it gun crime was a newsflash, like it is in civilized countries?


You know what would have been a good newsflash? The Q4 contraction of our economy when there was a 1.1 % expected growth.

That actually affects us all, but since it makes godbama look like a mistake another gun flame thread to make Obama look smart.
 
2013-01-30 07:45:37 PM  

Wyalt Derp: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Wouldn't it be nice if it gun crime was a newsflash, like it is in civilized countries?


Why does it matter if a gun was involved? Is it totally cool to kill people by other means, and to rob banks with explosives?

If what you're against is homicides and violent crime, then there are no civilized countries with over 1,000,000 people by your criterion. Probably none with over 50,000.
 
2013-01-30 07:47:10 PM  

d23: Every time LaPierre speaks there is a mass shooting.

Correlation = Causation. Shut him up!!!!!


some anti-govt, survivalist,Glenn Beck fan shot a bus driver dead, kidnapped a 6 yr old autistic kid off the school bus and took him to his underground bunker yesterday. They're still in there. The crazy guy is a former vietnam vet with ptsd and a history of aggressive ,crazy actions. Wayne LaPierre speaks for him.
 
2013-01-30 07:47:23 PM  

amquelbettamin: Wyalt Derp: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Wouldn't it be nice if it gun crime was a newsflash, like it is in civilized countries?

You know what would have been a good newsflash? The Q4 contraction of our economy when there was a 1.1 % expected growth.

That actually affects us all, but since it makes godbama look like a mistake another gun flame thread to make Obama look smart.


The entire purpose of these threads is to DISTRACT people from actual problems. Now shut up about the economy.
 
2013-01-30 07:47:40 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.

This is Arizona. No such thing as a gun-free zone. (Legally, maybe, but we likes our guns 'round here, boy.)

It's not like this is a rare occurrence. My husband has witnessed two workplace shootings in Phoenix. One outside a transmission shop in Sunnyslope while he was on his way to pick up his mom when her car broke down, and one right next to his workplace as he was pulling into the parking lot. I'm sure he's relieved he didn't have to see this one.


Incidents like this are exactly why we need more firearms and fewer restrictions on them.
Pretty much anybody should be allowed to carry concealed.

Wait. That's exactly the lunacy we have here.

And it really, really sucks.
 
2013-01-30 07:48:41 PM  

Hobodeluxe: d23: Every time LaPierre speaks there is a mass shooting.

Correlation = Causation. Shut him up!!!!!

some anti-govt, survivalist,Glenn Beck fan shot a bus driver dead, kidnapped a 6 yr old autistic kid off the school bus and took him to his underground bunker yesterday. They're still in there. The crazy guy is a former vietnam vet with ptsd and a history of aggressive ,crazy actions. Wayne LaPierre speaks for him.


I was wondering what became of that insanity. That poor kid.
 
2013-01-30 07:48:41 PM  

amquelbettamin: Wyalt Derp: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Wouldn't it be nice if it gun crime was a newsflash, like it is in civilized countries?

You know what would have been a good newsflash? The Q4 contraction of our economy when there was a 1.1 % expected growth.

That actually affects us all, but since it makes godbama look like a mistake another gun flame thread to make Obama look smart.


that's what happens when you institute austeric measures and threaten to default on the debt.
 
2013-01-30 07:49:25 PM  

BHShaman: Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]

Awesome.
USA! USA! USA!

I have 4.
.22, .30-.30 , .30-.06 , 12GA Pump


I have three...well 2 and a half. 22 rifle, 22 revolver and a cap n ball 44 revolver. It takes so long to load the cap n ball revolver someone could almost pass a background check and receive their modern pistol before I could get off the second six shots.
 
2013-01-30 07:52:06 PM  

OnlyM3: FlashHarry

according to pro-gun farkers, it is. it doesn't even warrant a news flash!
Yes, it's gun owners who are suppressing the news:

Just from the past couple weeks

The links those with an agenda are afraid to greenlight.
AKA: Why do you need more than 10 rounds
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Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder
Link
A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.

The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar.

But the man eventually found the family.


The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets
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1 dead, 4 jailed after failed robbery
Link
...Anthony Barwick, 20, of Dayton, was shot in the leg. He was treated and released into police custody. Barwick, along with London Norman, 23, Deron McGuire Jr., 23, and Tavaughn Lewis, 19, the other men police said were involved in the home invasion, are all being held in the Greene County Jail on charges of felony aggravated burglary, aggravated robbery, and kidnapping.

Police said the men went to the house with the intent to rob the occupants....

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Link
When the first units arrived they learned a mother and a 6-year-old child were home alone when three Hispanic males broke into the home.
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Homeowner shoots armed burglar in the buttocks
Link
...the homeowner had Stewart at gunpoint when he told the homeowner that he was not going back to jail. That is when Stewart drew a pistol from his jacket and shot at the homeowner. The homeowner returned fire and shot ...


Ah, well that outweighs the six thousand Americans who have been shot since the beginning of the year, now doesn't it?
 
2013-01-30 07:55:08 PM  
sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-01-30 07:55:39 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: coeyagi: Wayne LaPierre flying through the air on a cloud of Eagle Feathers painted red, white and blue... could have prevented this.

Someone absolutely needs to do a photoshop of this. Preferably with plenty of flags and sparklies.

FlashHarry: OnlyM3: Lincoln (Republican) - killed by democrat conservative

MLK (Republican) - killed by democrat conservative

8/10

No, no, no! Don't you see? He's trying to demonstrate that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VIOLENT CONSERVATIVE!


NO, no, no to you! He's trying to demonstrate that Libtards aren't docile.
 
2013-01-30 07:59:48 PM  

Hobodeluxe: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x850]


We are well aware of Dr. Kellermann's discredited claim.
 
2013-01-30 08:03:36 PM  

amquelbettamin: So is Reddit a good Fark substitute?


Good luck, we're all counting on you.
 
2013-01-30 08:06:36 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: CheetahOlivetti: netizencain: I wonder if this was in a gun-free zone.  That shiat works.

This is Arizona. No such thing as a gun-free zone. (Legally, maybe, but we likes our guns 'round here, boy.)

It's not like this is a rare occurrence. My husband has witnessed two workplace shootings in Phoenix. One outside a transmission shop in Sunnyslope while he was on his way to pick up his mom when her car broke down, and one right next to his workplace as he was pulling into the parking lot. I'm sure he's relieved he didn't have to see this one.

Incidents like this are exactly why we need more firearms and fewer restrictions on them.
Pretty much anybody should be allowed to carry concealed.

Wait. That's exactly the lunacy we have here.

And it really, really sucks.


I agree. I used to own a .22 rifle (purchased for a college riflery class and sold a few years later), and I'm OK with responsible gun ownership, especially since I grew up around deer and pheasant hunters. But there really do need to be restrictions, and there needs to be a change in "gun culture".  I'm not talking about video games here; I'm talking about ITGs who feel a need to post pictures of their arsenal in every gun thread and every time the topic comes up on Facebook. If I still owned a gun and kept it for home defense, I sure as hell wouldn't be telling anyone about it. But I would also sure as hell make sure it was locked up and that I was trained properly to know how to use it, when to use, and when NOT to use it.
 
2013-01-30 08:07:44 PM  
When I was a kid, Nerf guns didn't kill people.
 
2013-01-30 08:08:24 PM  

MrEricSir: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

You're right, mass shootings are completely normally and non-newsworthy.


They are now.
 
2013-01-30 08:14:26 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: OnlyM3: AKA: Why do you need more than 10 rounds


Why do you need to limit magazines to less than 10 rounds? Do you think it would have made a difference in any of the massacres? Cho Seung Hui used two handguns against adults and had no trouble changing magazines. Do you think if Adam Lanza had only had 10 round magazines on his guns a 6 year old was going to stop him in the 2 seconds it takes to reload?

Since Sandy Hook is the whole reason for the outrage and RUSH RUSH RUSH to get the laws changed, I propose everyone ask a few questions when considering a law/restriction:
1) If in effect, would this have stopped the massacre from occurring?
2) If in effect, would this have significantly decreased the odds of the massacre occurring?
3) If in effect, would this have significantly decreased the severity of the massacre?

Unfortunately, most of the proposals are no, no, and no. I don't understand the rush to IMMEDIATELY legislate things that would have had no effect on the event that has triggered the discussion in the first place.
 
2013-01-30 08:16:22 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Ah, well that outweighs the six thousand Americans who have been shot since the beginning of the year, now doesn't it?


Huh? Where the hell are you getting 6,000 people in the past 30 days?! The highest number I've seen is around 1400, and of that at least 40 are from Chicago (which, in case you haven't heard, has a total gun ban).

People saving themselves and their families from would-be attackers just isn't newsworthy enough to be reported. I'm sure everyday there's a number of people that save themselves by shooting or simply brandishing a gun. Your average histrionic American would never pay attention to that. Instead we get newsflashes of "mass shootings" in which ONE person died in a premeditated attack.
 
2013-01-30 08:25:40 PM  

Bisu: Do you think if Adam Lanza had only had 10 round magazines on his guns a 6 year old was going to stop him in the 2 seconds it takes to reload?


Remember the burglar who was shot five or six times in the face by the lady hiding with her kids? He still made it to his vehicle and drove a short way.

We know two adults rushed Lanza.

What's ten divided by two?
 
2013-01-30 08:29:02 PM  
Stop looking at the weapon, and start looking at the individual.

/lots of years on FARK
//Guns have always been around.  Look to the individual.
 
2013-01-30 08:30:39 PM  

vabeard: Stop looking at the weapon, and start looking at the individual.

/lots of years on FARK
//Guns have always been around.  Look to the individual.


I did.
Apparently he has two guns.
 
2013-01-30 08:34:24 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: I did.
Apparently he has two guns.


Please identify that correctly, we call that an 'arsenal'.
 
2013-01-30 08:38:10 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Bisu: Do you think if Adam Lanza had only had 10 round magazines on his guns a 6 year old was going to stop him in the 2 seconds it takes to reload?

Remember the burglar who was shot five or six times in the face by the lady hiding with her kids? He still made it to his vehicle and drove a short way.

We know two adults rushed Lanza.

What's ten divided by two?


Hmm, not sure what you're getting at.  If the lady in GA had been using a 10 round magazine and the burglar had brought a friend, it seems she'd likely be dead along with her children as she'd have ran out of bullets before the threats were stopped...  Six shots to one guy didn't stop him completely, so it's reasonable to assume she wouldn't have been able to stop him plus one friend.  Note that it's hardly uncommon for burglars/home invasions to be done by more than one guy.

So, it seems like you're making the case that setting an artificial 10 round limit is indeed a bad idea as it leaves honest, law abiding citizens (like a mom protecting her children) unable to adequately defend themselves.  I agree with you, you're right.
 
2013-01-30 08:39:24 PM  

Chimpasaurus: People saving themselves and their families from would-be attackers just isn't newsworthy enough to be reported. I'm sure everyday there's a number of people that save themselves by shooting or simply brandishing a gun. Your average histrionic American would never pay attention to that.


I'm sure they're also all lizard people. What do you mean they're not? You think the lizard-controlled media would report on such a thing?
 
2013-01-30 08:39:43 PM  
Hurr if someone in the office with a C&C had been there DURRR
 
2013-01-30 08:41:26 PM  

vabeard: Stop looking at the weapon, and start looking at the individual.

/lots of years on FARK
//Guns have always been around.  Look to the individual.


Here's a flashback link for voting on best 2002 threads.

2002
 
2013-01-30 08:44:08 PM  
FWIW, here's an update:  http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/free/20130130phoenix-offic e -shooting-abrk.html

The victims are two lawyers (injured) and one call center CEO (dead).  The suspect is a 70 yr old who got mad at a mediation session.  They are looking for him.
 
2013-01-30 08:45:01 PM  

amquelbettamin: Cool, guess I'll dip my toe in there a bit too


The Reddit hivemind is right up your alley. Plenty of well-to-do white male libertarians to vote down any dissenting thoughts.
 
2013-01-30 08:45:42 PM  

remus: The suspect is a 70 yr old who got mad at a mediation session.


"Now, Jim, I hear things haven't been going well at the office.  And don't mind the armed guards behind me..."
 
2013-01-30 08:48:33 PM  

remus: Hmm, not sure what you're getting at.


Lanza may have succeeded in killing his mother and no one else.
 
2013-01-30 08:50:18 PM  

remus: Hmm, not sure what you're getting at.


And the lady in GA would've had four rounds left over.
 
2013-01-30 08:54:05 PM  

Dimensio: Hobodeluxe: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x850]

We are well aware of Dr. Kellermann's discredited claim.


Discredited by who? La Pierre?
 
2013-01-30 09:03:05 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Incidents like this are exactly why we need more firearms and fewer restrictions on them.
Pretty much anybody should be allowed to carry concealed.


Agreed.

It doesn't seem to have made crime go up that's for sure.  Just a partial version of that did wonders for the crime rate in Florida in the late 80s; not to mention the very low crime rate in states like Vermont, with no restrictions on carry and NH and ME with very few.

If it'll save a single life, let's adopt Vermont style carry with NH or UT's minimal number of places off limits.
 
2013-01-30 09:05:05 PM  
I'm kind of happy about all the green-lit shooting stories popping up on aggregating websites like Fark. At least it makes it blindingly obvious just how many fricking people get shot in the USA. And, unfortunately, the stories are so banal or idiotic that it completely reveals just how stupid it is to allow anyone to easily get their hands on a something that they can casually or accidentally kill someone else with.
 
2013-01-30 09:06:27 PM  

ansius: I'm kind of happy about all the green-lit shooting stories popping up on aggregating websites like Fark. At least it makes it blindingly obvious just how many fricking people get shot in the USA. And, unfortunately, the stories are so banal or idiotic that it completely reveals just how stupid it is to allow anyone to easily get their hands on a something that they can casually or accidentally kill someone else with.


You could do the same with all the people killed by things other than guns.  Our non-firearm homicide rate alone dwarfs most countries.
 
2013-01-30 09:07:29 PM  

NkThrasher: Kyro: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 437x555]

There is at least one country in the 50-75 bracket, with the US being the only one in the 75+ bracket.

If that country in the 50-75 is at 75, and the US is at 76, then there certainly is a country to compare to the US.

Poorly done graphic is poorly done.

/Not that I disagree with its summary
//Just that the data it presents doesn't conclusively show what it claims to


Actually, looking at the problem on a per capita and per gun basis, you STILL end up with the US being worse by a factor of 2.  Guns are clearly part of the problem, but they're not the totality of the problem.  (My bet is on the drug war being responsible for most of the rest.)
 
2013-01-30 09:11:08 PM  

Bisu: Why do you need to limit magazines to less than 10 rounds?


If you can't hit what you're aiming at within ten rounds, it lowers the damage you'll do to your neighbors and other innocent bystanders.


Chimpasaurus: Huh? Where the hell are you getting 6,000 people in the past 30 days?! The highest number I've seen is around 1400, and of that at least 40 are from Chicago (which, in case you haven't heard, has a total gun ban).


One thousand four hundred forty is the number shot DEAD since Sandy Hook.
On average, 300 Americans are shot every day. I cut it by a quarter for cold weather.  Maybe I should have estimated higher for cabin fever.
 
2013-01-30 09:12:17 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: remus: Hmm, not sure what you're getting at.

And the lady in GA would've had four rounds left over.


FAIL.

By YOUR own statement, she shot 6 times (true) and did NOT STOP the criminal (he ran and drove off).  If he had only one friend (hardly uncommon in home invasions), and she had a 10 round mag (as is being proposed), then, as you say, she'd have had four rounds left, but we just showed that six wasn't enough for one guy.  She would have been at least two rounds short.

Seriously though, Police officers in shootings regularly only hit 20-25% of their shots.  This mom exceeded that by a huge margin and didn't stop the guy.  Let's just say she had been as accurate as a trained Police officer and hit only 25% of her shots.  In order to shoot the one guy she was shooting at and hit him the five times she did, she would have had to shoot TWENTY rounds....  That's why any gun owner simply wants to have a magazine that carries the number of rounds it was originally designed for.   Most modern handguns carry anywhere from 12-19 rounds depending on caliber and style.  It seems pretty reasonable when you realize the accuracy of a typical Policeman and how many rounds it can take to stop a single threat.  It's not like TV where one shot stops a guy.

The real problem is one I face in my Engineering job all the time, it's an optimization exercise.  The problem with this one is that decreasing the rounds might, possibly, decrease the amount of damage a raging shooter can inflict, BUT, it also increases the risk for a legitimate, honest citizen trying to defend their home and babies.  You can't, unfortunately, calculate a "magic number" where these conflicting issues balance perfectly.  An honest citizen may be threatened by a single person, but may also be attacked by a gang of criminals (not hard to find stories about multiple thugs attacking/robbing somebody).  This means, the optimum rounds on the citizen defense side of the calculation can't be reduced without creating a deficit.  Sure, you can reduce the carnage on the first side of the equation, but it comes at the expense of honest citizens trying to simply defend themselves.  Me, I'd rather that woman be able to prevent herself from being raped and killed and who knows what would happen to her babies.
 
2013-01-30 09:16:08 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: If you can't hit what you're aiming at within ten rounds, it lowers the damage you'll do to your neighbors and other innocent bystanders.


Spoken like a true moron.

We all know that attackers always stop after being shot just once, and that one has never been attacked by many.  It's a total lie that a person shot in the heart, and mortally wounded, cannot continue to attack for up to 30 seconds.

Yep 1 shot=1 kill just like on TV.
 
2013-01-30 09:16:08 PM  

Hobodeluxe: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x850]


There are a lot of ways to explain that.  It'd be interesting to look at the statistics to see how each gun ended up killing someone.  Obviously, accidental shootings matter, as do suicides (at least somewhat - yes, suicidal people can find ways to kill themselves, but without a gun, there's more time for a successful intervention).

There's obviously more to the story.

/If you own a gun and a pool, the pool is more likely to kill your kid.  While that does tell you how infrequently guns actually kill people, it also points to a need for pool owners to fence their pools and should probably undergo training to ensure the safety of their children and the children of neighbors.  ie, pools need MORE regulations, not guns less
 
2013-01-30 09:20:24 PM  

remus: The real problem is one I face in my Engineering job all the time, it's an optimization exercise. The problem with this one is that decreasing the rounds might, possibly, decrease the amount of damage a raging shooter can inflict, BUT, it also increases the risk for a legitimate, honest citizen trying to defend their home and babies.


It doesn't even stop mass shooters, they just bring more magazines and guns to offset any magazine limits.  They're also on the offensive and shooting at (nearly always) disarmed people taken by surprise.
They can afford to lug 2 or 3 guns and dozens of magazines in because they only carry it a small distance and don't have to worry about carrying it back out.

Self defense shooters aren't going to be able to carry a bunch of magazines and extra guns, and are typically on the defensive, facing one more pursuing aggressors and can't afford the small amount of time it takes to switch magazines, nor should they be artificially limited just so some people (not saying you) can feel like they're doing something useful.
 
2013-01-30 09:21:00 PM  

remus: You can't, unfortunately, calculate a "magic number" where these conflicting issues balance perfectly.


You can however, control for one variable at a time.

/"what if he brought a HUNDRED friends OMG"
 
2013-01-30 09:29:59 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: remus: You can't, unfortunately, calculate a "magic number" where these conflicting issues balance perfectly.

You can however, control for one variable at a time.

/"what if he brought a HUNDRED friends OMG"


Heck, like I showed, even one guy might not be stopped by a ten round mag if you shoot only as good as a trained policeman.   If that guy has only one friend, you might really be in trouble.

pedrop357 nailed it; the mass shooter won't be slowed or stopped as they'll have already planned and brought what they want.  The only person who really is disadvantaged is the poor, honest citizen who follows the law.

Of, for what it's worth, have you actually seen Nina Hartley's Ass recently?  Let's just say the girl had gotten old and she's put on some extra luggage...
 
2013-01-30 09:31:18 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.

No, we don't feel it. We see your impotent flailing about and generally laugh at you. None of the laws that you think are coming are going to pass. None of them. What's more, you know that we had a nearly-identical law for a decade and it accomplished nothing except the loss of control of Congress for the Democrats, so you actually don't want them to pass anything. You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.


Because people being killed is hilarious, I'm sure.
 
2013-01-30 09:41:54 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.


Do you have an actual convincing point or argument to make or are you content to just make an ass of yourself comparing things you don't like to penises?
 
2013-01-30 09:43:51 PM  

remus: Heck, like I showed, even one guy might not be stopped by a ten round mag if you shoot only as good as a trained policeman. If that guy has only one friend, you might really be in trouble.


Or maybe his friend would have talked him out of it.

Lil' ol' gal from GA only had six and got away unharmed.
 
2013-01-30 10:02:27 PM  
You want to know how well stricter gun laws including 10 round magazine limits work?

This well.
 
2013-01-30 10:05:03 PM  

Hobodeluxe: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x850]


You do know that figure was proven bogus almost as soon as it came out, right?  Kellerman is not really the fount of integrity and honesty you think he is.
 
2013-01-30 10:14:09 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: vabeard: Stop looking at the weapon, and start looking at the individual.

/lots of years on FARK
//Guns have always been around.  Look to the individual.

I did.
Apparently he has two guns.


My father was stabbed to death in 1965.  "Crime of passion".  They found my father at the front door after his girlfriend had 'accidentally stabbed him in the heart twice' because of an argument.

Look to the individual, not the weapon.
.
 
2013-01-30 10:14:42 PM  

Bisu: The entire purpose of these threads is to DISTRACT people from actual problems. Now shut up about the economy.


ITT: Being shot and killed is not an actual problem.
 
2013-01-30 10:17:02 PM  

vabeard: Look to the individual, not the weapon.


So does America just have a whole lot more farked up individuals per capita than other western countries?
 
2013-01-30 10:19:04 PM  
that is all dark is about ever Smith girls Jesus ducking christ
 
2013-01-30 10:21:01 PM  

styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.


It's the distraction du jour.  People will get angry about what the media tells them to.    Despite the truth that violent crime has been falling steadily.   The federal government hasn't figured out how it is going to stay solvent though the end of this year while maintaining current spending levels.  They need a manufactured issue on have the front page headlines so that real issues aren't.
 
2013-01-30 10:21:17 PM  

whatshisname: vabeard: Look to the individual, not the weapon.

So does America just have a whole lot more farked up individuals per capita than other western countries?


YES!!!

Look at our non-firearm murder rate by itself.
 
2013-01-30 10:21:25 PM  

vabeard: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: vabeard: Stop looking at the weapon, and start looking at the individual.

/lots of years on FARK
//Guns have always been around.  Look to the individual.

I did.
Apparently he has two guns.

My father was stabbed to death in 1965.  "Crime of passion".  They found my father at the front door after his girlfriend had 'accidentally stabbed him in the heart twice' because of an argument.

Look to the individual, not the weapon.
.


Everyone's got a story. I still like your odds against a knife better than against a gun.
 
2013-01-30 10:35:19 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: vabeard: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: vabeard: Stop looking at the weapon, and start looking at the individual.

/lots of years on FARK
//Guns have always been around.  Look to the individual.

I did.
Apparently he has two guns.

My father was stabbed to death in 1965.  "Crime of passion".  They found my father at the front door after his girlfriend had 'accidentally stabbed him in the heart twice' because of an argument.

Look to the individual, not the weapon.
.

Everyone's got a story. I still like your odds against a knife better than against a gun.


Wounds to the neck or thorax are just as effective and as speedy as a gun wound.
/knife, sword, blade.
//If you want someone to die, bleeding out works fairly quick.
 
2013-01-30 10:41:54 PM  
tallen702: "CNN and the network nightly news I can understand and ignore, but I thought that the Modmins were above trolling by greenlighting shiat like this... I guess not. "

My mistake. I figured you meant the media at large.  Because FARK has been greenlighting troll-tacular nonsense like this for *years*.
Hell, it seemed like they had damn troll *quota* during the (extended) Presidential campaign.
 
2013-01-30 10:50:55 PM  
Clearly, we need to make shooting people illegal and punish those that do so anyway.
 
2013-01-30 10:59:40 PM  

vabeard: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: vabeard: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: vabeard: Stop looking at the weapon, and start looking at the individual.

/lots of years on FARK
//Guns have always been around.  Look to the individual.

I did.
Apparently he has two guns.

My father was stabbed to death in 1965.  "Crime of passion".  They found my father at the front door after his girlfriend had 'accidentally stabbed him in the heart twice' because of an argument.

Look to the individual, not the weapon.
.

Everyone's got a story. I still like your odds against a knife better than against a gun.

Wounds to the neck or thorax are just as effective and as speedy as a gun wound.
/knife, sword, blade.
//If you want someone to die, bleeding out works fairly quick.

Everyone's got a story

So, which of your parents were murdered brutally?
 
2013-01-30 11:01:46 PM  
The RKBA.

You will beg the government to take it from you.

They will happily oblige.

And some of you will live to regret it.


/Mark
//My
///Words


Rights: Cheap to surrender, all but impossible to regain.
 
2013-01-30 11:14:03 PM  

vabeard: So, which of your parents were murdered brutally?


I don't put that stuff out.
 
2013-01-30 11:28:44 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Dimensio: Hobodeluxe: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x850]

We are well aware of Dr. Kellermann's discredited claim.

Discredited by who? La Pierre?



Actually Kellermann himself revised his numbers from 43x to 2.3x. If that discrepancy isn't enough to discredit Kellermann and his methodology you could look at anything about his studies other than cute little graphics you pick up at Kos or DU and figure it out for yourself.
 
2013-01-30 11:39:29 PM  

Hobodeluxe: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x850]


Kellermann? Spare me. He's about as acceptable as Lott in this discussion.

Pichu0102: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.

No, we don't feel it. We see your impotent flailing about and generally laugh at you. None of the laws that you think are coming are going to pass. None of them. What's more, you know that we had a nearly-identical law for a decade and it accomplished nothing except the loss of control of Congress for the Democrats, so you actually don't want them to pass anything. You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.

Because people being killed is hilarious, I'm sure.


Nope. I don't think it's funny at all. You, on the other hand, are funny, because appeals to emotion are all you have. I didn't say anything about people being killed, you did.
 
2013-01-31 12:19:14 AM  
Why does it matter if a gun was involved?

Because in Great Britain where they use knives and hammers to commit mass murders, they have an intentional homicide rate that is 1/4th of what we have in America.

There's a good reason why people choose to use AR-15 rifles to commit mass murder.  They are far more effective than running around a school with a switch blade.   As we saw in China, where an insane dude went to a school with a knife and slashed 30 kids the same week that Sandy Hook took place.  In China, all the kids that were attacked lived.
 
2013-01-31 12:19:53 AM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: CheetahOlivetti: Some dipshiat on ABC15.com is claiming that this is in a gang area. Right, roving gangs attacking office complexes.

there are some people at my office who are pretty territorial with the copier and the toaster oven since we got it two months ago. it browns up chicken breasts real nice (the toaster oven, not the copier).




I was going to say you needed to get your copier check out.
 
2013-01-31 12:21:16 AM  

TXEric: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Helps the Fark agenda.


If it really did help "the Fark agenda" then there would be several more gun-related newsflashes a day. You're not being persecuted. Get over it.
 
2013-01-31 12:22:45 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: Just like we have that list of things that are a threat to America (someone or some people on this site own it), we need a list of people and things that require armed security/metal detectors.

Elementary schools
Movie theaters
Army bases
Shopping malls
Single family houses
Apartment units
Cars
Postmen,
Etc.


don't forget Sikh temples
 
2013-01-31 12:33:44 AM  

coeyagi: wombatsrus: DownTheRabbitHole: natmar_76: Clearly the answer is more guns.

Sadly, less guns is not going to stop this either. We have a violent society. We glorify violence in media. We've made the military the most important thing in the nation, and arguably the world. Our favorite sports are extremely violent. We still promote violence, not just in action but in speech and interpersonal behavior, as a means to ending disagreements. We treat each other with shocking disregard in every day life. Yet we act surprised when people act violently.

Gun control will not stop random violence. People will use other weapons, bombs, chemicals, or even hand weapons. Gun control is treating the effect, not the cause. The NRA has one thing right, and it's that people kill people (with guns, and bombs, and poisons, and knives, and even their bare hands).

When you change the culture, you'll reduce incidents like this. Until then, it will still happen.

SO MUCH THIS

The problem with changing the culture is that no one can agree on which culture we should change to.

I'd prefer one where vuvezelas are in every household versus a gun in every household.


ok, that's just crazy talk
 
2013-01-31 12:36:26 AM  

Bucky Katt: TXEric: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Helps the Fark agenda.

If it really did help "the Fark agenda" then there would be several more gun-related newsflashes a day. You're not being persecuted. Get over it.


FWIW, I submitted this with a Sad tag, and it was greenlit as such.  At some point, the mods must have changed it to Newsflash.

/subby
 
2013-01-31 02:10:06 AM  

amquelbettamin: Wyalt Derp: styckx: Are we really going to newsflash every farking time there is violence involving a gun? For fark sakes.

Wouldn't it be nice if it gun crime was a newsflash, like it is in civilized countries?

You know what would have been a good newsflash? The Q4 contraction of our economy when there was a 1.1 % expected growth.

That actually affects us all, but since it makes godbama look like a mistake another gun flame thread to make Obama look smart.



Why do you RW guys always call him God?
Do you worship him?
 
2013-01-31 02:18:39 AM  
What do Fark Thread Astroturfers™ get paid in?  Dominos pizzas?  Makers Mark coupons?
 
2013-01-31 02:23:16 AM  

whidbey: What do Fark Thread Astroturfers™ get paid in?  Dominos pizzas?  Makers Mark coupons?


I tend not to buy the notion someone gets paid to do this stuff.  Even at minimum wage, it's absurd to think that you could hire enough people to make a worthwhile difference whether it's Occupy Wall Street, the Tea Party, or shilling on the Internet.  I think you can get fans to do it for you for free, and no matter how retarded something is, there will be rabid sycophants who breathlessly champion the idea online.  Just look at 9/11 conspiracies.
 
drp
2013-01-31 02:47:56 AM  
Fark should quarantine these gun threads in the politics tab.

Confine the shiat to the cesspool.
 
2013-01-31 04:17:33 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Hobodeluxe: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x850]

Kellermann? Spare me. He's about as acceptable as Lott in this discussion.

Pichu0102: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Insatiable Jesus: Do you feel it Gunfappers? Do you feel the walls closing in with every massacre? These shootings will not stop, every one of them is another nail in the coffin of unregulated firearms.

Bushmasters, penis extensions for those too poor to afford a Corvette - and built about as well.

No, we don't feel it. We see your impotent flailing about and generally laugh at you. None of the laws that you think are coming are going to pass. None of them. What's more, you know that we had a nearly-identical law for a decade and it accomplished nothing except the loss of control of Congress for the Democrats, so you actually don't want them to pass anything. You're a poseur, playing at how much you care.

Because people being killed is hilarious, I'm sure.

Nope. I don't think it's funny at all. You, on the other hand, are funny, because appeals to emotion are all you have. I didn't say anything about people being killed, you did.


Do you think this is a motherfarking game? An innocent man is dead, and two others badly wounded.
Not a god damn thing about this is funny. Not the attempts to do something about it, not the victims, not anything.
 
2013-01-31 07:49:33 AM  

remus: FWIW, here's an update:  http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/free/20130130phoenix-offic e -shooting-abrk.html

The victims are two lawyers (injured) and one call center CEO (dead).  The suspect is a 70 yr old who got mad at a mediation session.  They are looking for him.


He got a CEO and two lawyers? Given the current economy there are many who would call him a hero.
 
2013-01-31 08:22:17 AM  
If only it was a gun free zone, this would not have happened.
 
2013-01-31 09:05:13 AM  

dustygrimp: Paint all the guns Hello Kitty pink. Attach a tassle to the butt end.


t3.gstatic.com

I could go for that...
 
2013-01-31 09:39:29 AM  
>demaL-demaL-yeH

>OnlyM3: FlashHarry

Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder


A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.

The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar.

But the man eventually found the family.


The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets.


Comprimise people!

Guns don't kill people,
People don't kill people,

Bullets kill people!


Ban Bullits!
 
2013-01-31 10:33:33 AM  
It's obviously a lack of guns problem, not a socio-economic one, nor a mental health one, nor a poverty one, I mean it has to be because we aren't packing 24/7.
 
2013-01-31 11:00:58 AM  

Joe Blowme: If only it was a gun free zone, this would not have happened.


I have printed out extra copies of our corporate policy section that prohibits weapons in the workplace and leave them in strategic locations.  This way a crazed gunman can be confronted and quickly advised that he is not allowed to be doing what he is doing.
 
2013-01-31 01:02:43 PM  
 
2013-01-31 02:29:58 PM  
The odds are about 120 to 1 that an "Assault Rifle" was involved.

simkatu: Why does it matter if a gun was involved?

Because in Great Britain where they use knives and hammers to commit mass murders, they have an intentional homicide rate that is 1/4th of what we have in America.

There's a good reason why people choose to use AR-15 rifles to commit mass murder.  They are far more effective than running around a school with a switch blade.   As we saw in China, where an insane dude went to a school with a knife and slashed 30 kids the same week that Sandy Hook took place.  In China, all the kids that were attacked lived.


Saying people choose AR-15s to commit mass murder is like saying the NFL is full of gay players.  While there are some...the overwhelming majority of mass murders are committed with weapons that are not AR-15s.

Kinda takes the wind out of your argument, and makes a timely analogy to current events.
 
2013-01-31 03:25:30 PM  

pedrop357: ansius: I'm kind of happy about all the green-lit shooting stories popping up on aggregating websites like Fark. At least it makes it blindingly obvious just how many fricking people get shot in the USA. And, unfortunately, the stories are so banal or idiotic that it completely reveals just how stupid it is to allow anyone to easily get their hands on a something that they can casually or accidentally kill someone else with.

You could do the same with all the people killed by things other than guns.  Our non-firearm homicide rate alone dwarfs most countries.


Might have something to do with the fact that most countries use sensible restrictions on gun ownership and use, reducing the numbers of deaths by guns. Some countries also limit knives and other weapons too (e.g., Australia).
 
2013-01-31 03:37:47 PM  

ansius: Might have something to do with the fact that most countries use sensible restrictions on gun ownership and use, reducing the numbers of deaths by guns. Some countries also limit knives and other weapons too (e.g., Australia).


Those countries had low homicide rates with and without guns before they went gun control crazy.  No matter how you slice it, we're a violent country.  Our non-firearm murder rate ALONE still puts us at or near the top of the list of 1st world/Western/whatever countries.  We have a violence problem that is not gun dependent.

New Zealand has had as good a track record as Australia, yet their laws are far less restrictive than Australia.
Oddly enough, NZ like France, Norway, and Finland do not regulate suppressors at all.
 
2013-01-31 04:14:51 PM  
Shooter killed himself. Game over.
 
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