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(LA Times)   More than ten years after 9/11 and we still can't bring applesauce onto commercial flights   (latimesblogs.latimes.com) divider line 89
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2013-01-30 04:13:15 PM  
No applesauce? Think of the children!
 
2013-01-30 04:39:50 PM  
Well to be fair, the whole liquid rule came about because of the brits in August 2006.
 
2013-01-30 04:40:11 PM  
Two spoon, subby!

/got nothin'
 
2013-01-30 04:41:06 PM  
Security theater makes us safe!
 
2013-01-30 04:41:14 PM  

Teknowaffle: Well to be fair, the whole liquid rule came about because of the brits in August 2006.


Oh? Well then it's okay.
 
2013-01-30 04:43:54 PM  
In fairness, the liquid lunacy started in 2006.

The knee-jerk reaction to that was to ban ALL liquid...even beverages purchased airside and given on airplanes. Then, capitalism reared its ugly head and then all of those for-profit liquids were suddenly deemed safe.

Fact of the matter is, TSA does have equipment to test liquids, but the process of testing is slow and arcane. The reason we have to remove our laptops and shoes is because we as passengers have to continually adapt to the TSA's shortcomings in screening people.

But the TSA has changed their uniforms four times in 10 years, which shows where their real priorities are.
 
2013-01-30 04:44:07 PM  
And how many more 9/11's have there been since the ban?
OK then.
 
2013-01-30 04:44:50 PM  
You're next, pork chops!
 
2013-01-30 04:48:29 PM  

highendmighty: And how many more 9/11's have there been since the ban?
OK then.


I have a rock you may wish to buy.
 
2013-01-30 04:49:08 PM  

Mega Steve: You're next, pork chops!


The TSA hasn't touched my Peter...yet
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-30 04:49:24 PM  
They confiscate your fluids but not your phone which apparently can bring the whole god damn plane down if you so much as text during takeoff.
 
2013-01-30 04:50:06 PM  

buckler: I have a rock you may wish to buy.


Will it make soup?
 
2013-01-30 04:52:01 PM  
Tell us your source for this sauce.
 
2013-01-30 04:55:13 PM  
The whole liquid explosives thing, i.e. TATP, doesn't seem like it would work very well.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/flying_toilet_terror_labs/
 
2013-01-30 04:55:19 PM  
FTA: All of Hays' previous complaints were rejected by Walsh, who described her second amended complaint - in which more than 60 defendants were named - as "long and rambling."

That made me laugh far more than it should have.
 
2013-01-30 04:55:43 PM  

buckler: highendmighty: And how many more 9/11's have there been since the ban?
OK then.

I have a rock you may wish to buy.


Thank you for allowing me to desire to buy a rock. Although I have never heard your phrase and I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
2013-01-30 04:56:24 PM  
but a glass tupperware container with italian sausage and peppers is okay. I'm lookin' at you lady gaga wannabe.
 
2013-01-30 04:56:56 PM  
/CSB

I inadvertently brought applesauce on the plane home from Myrtle Beach. Didn't realize I still had some squeeze applesauce of my son's until on we were in the air. On the other hand, the TSA flipped out because I had "large canister shaped items" in my camera bag. Hmm, could they be lenses perhaps? Nah, better yank me out of line for the Spanish Inquisition because I have large canisters and am darker than a cafe latte.

//end CSB
 
2013-01-30 04:58:02 PM  
FARK THE TSA
 
2013-01-30 04:58:07 PM  

buckler: highendmighty: And how many more 9/11's have there been since the ban?
OK then.

I have a rock you may wish to buy.


NM. I googled. It's a Simpsons quote, right?
I need to watch that show more/again.
 
2013-01-30 04:58:11 PM  
I fly a lot. I now just bring a bottle that I fill at a water fountain past security, instead of buying a $6 Sprite. (no caffeine, I sleep on flights). Some airports have special bottle filling stations.

/just bring three of those little small applesauce containers under 3oz
//applesauce?
 
2013-01-30 04:58:44 PM  
The presence of a well-regulated blibbity being blabbity to a blah blah, the right of the citizens to apple sauce shall not be infringed.

Why can't I carry my Smuckers Cinnamon Homestyle Apple Sauce Bazooka onto a plane, that's all I'm asking.

Seriously, at some point they'll blow up a plane again and we'll be down to, you cannot bring luggage, you cannot wear clothing, you cannot have hair, you cannot have more than three limbs, you cannot fly.  Pay $500, come to the airport, let us photograph and grope you, and then GTFO.
 
2013-01-30 04:59:05 PM  

LessO2: In fairness, the liquid lunacy started in 2006.

The knee-jerk reaction to that was to ban ALL liquid...even beverages purchased airside and given on airplanes. Then, capitalism reared its ugly head and then all of those for-profit liquids were suddenly deemed safe.

Fact of the matter is, TSA does have equipment to test liquids, but the process of testing is slow and arcane. The reason we have to remove our laptops and shoes is because we as passengers have to continually adapt to the TSA's shortcomings in screening people.

But the TSA has changed their uniforms four times in 10 years, which shows where their real priorities are.


There's some kind of correlation here between TSA overreaction and the current debate on  assault weapons, but I just can't put my finger on it.  Something about liberty and security...
 
2013-01-30 05:00:20 PM  
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-01-30 05:00:46 PM  
Really? Aren't they usually pretty small? I've never had a problem traveling with my kids with that kind of thing.

/Granted, I don't travel with them much
//For the sanity of everyone
 
2013-01-30 05:01:56 PM  

CruJones: I fly a lot. I now just bring a bottle that I fill at a water fountain past security, instead of buying a $6 Sprite. (no caffeine, I sleep on flights). Some airports have special bottle filling stations.

/just bring three of those little small applesauce containers under 3oz
//applesauce?


Ahh. That's why my applesauce made it through. It was a small squeeze pack, probably under 3oz.

Still packed some extremely dangerous camera lenses.
 
2013-01-30 05:04:02 PM  
That'll teach those terrorist Applesauces!!
 
2013-01-30 05:05:14 PM  

highendmighty: buckler: highendmighty: And how many more 9/11's have there been since the ban?
OK then.

I have a rock you may wish to buy.

Thank you for allowing me to desire to buy a rock. Although I have never heard your phrase and I have no idea what you're talking about.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZU8K64OmxQ
 
2013-01-30 05:05:34 PM  

Dahnkster: Mega Steve: You're next, pork chops!

The TSA hasn't touched my Peter...yet
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 615x463]


I have no idea why but that made me spit vodak all over my keyboard... You owe me man haha...
 
2013-01-30 05:09:22 PM  
How about apples and a mini-blender?

Excuse me, stewardess! Can you do something for me!

I suppose the knife might be a problem unless you can cut the apples with a knife from the airplane meal.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! I make a funny!

Try mint jelly. You don't need more than a tablespoon per chop. Hide it between two slices of bread and pretend it is a sandwich. They might not notice you have more than three ounces if it is in a sandwich.

If you fail, sandwiches will be banned on airplanes. So much for the old couple with tuna salad stinking up the whole compartment! Ha! Ha!
 
2013-01-30 05:09:28 PM  

QueenMamaBee: /CSB

I inadvertently brought applesauce on the plane home from Myrtle Beach. Didn't realize I still had some squeeze applesauce of my son's until on we were in the air. On the other hand, the TSA flipped out because I had "large canister shaped items" in my camera bag. Hmm, could they be lenses perhaps? Nah, better yank me out of line for the Spanish Inquisition because I have large canisters and am darker than a cafe latte.

//end CSB


If it makes you feel any better, I got the same thing the last time I flew into the States with my camera bag.  I have my portrait lens, my wide angle, and my 70-200 meter lens.  And I'm white as alabaster.  So you weren't profiled, they are just really really stupid.

Mine actually said "Sir, you have to understand it from our point of view.  You have three inside there.  That's suspicious.  Why would you travel with more than the one?  Why would you need so many?"

/seriously, you've never had photographers come through here before?
 
2013-01-30 05:13:06 PM  
I had to give up a pair of nail scissors in my carry on a few years ago. Then I got on the plane and ordered a coffee. They gave me a 5 inch, hard plastic stirring stick with a end sharp enough that I could easily have stabbed someone to death with it.

/ Too much, Too late.
 
2013-01-30 05:14:39 PM  

QueenMamaBee: CruJones: I fly a lot. I now just bring a bottle that I fill at a water fountain past security, instead of buying a $6 Sprite. (no caffeine, I sleep on flights). Some airports have special bottle filling stations.

/just bring three of those little small applesauce containers under 3oz
//applesauce?

Ahh. That's why my applesauce made it through. It was a small squeeze pack, probably under 3oz.

Still packed some extremely dangerous camera lenses.


To be fair, you can shoot people with those. lol
 
2013-01-30 05:16:29 PM  

highendmighty: And how many more 9/11's have there been since the ban?
OK then.


Wouldn't that be 1 every year?
 
2013-01-30 05:18:06 PM  
Just curious, can you bring bananas on a plane? They are radioactive, so I wondered if they would set off the detectors.
 
2013-01-30 05:18:29 PM  

hitlersbrain: I had to give up a pair of nail scissors in my carry on a few years ago. Then I got on the plane and ordered a coffee. They gave me a 5 inch, hard plastic stirring stick with a end sharp enough that I could easily have stabbed someone to death with it.

/ Too much, Too late.


My sister is a flight attendant, and said that a fully uniformed and credentialed pilot of her's couldn't get onto the plane because he had a metal butter knife in his bag that he actually got from the first class galley on the previous plane.  The idea that he could take down the plane without the aid of that butter knife, namely by simply pushing the stick forward and closing his eyes, or that there were literally dozens more of them waiting on the very plane he was about to go fly completely eluded the TSA agent.  

My sister has a ton of stories about the stupid TSA issues, and I myself just seem to have bad luck with them.  Meanwhile, while I live in Europe and travel regularly, I have never gotten more than a "can I take a look into your bag?  Then you, move along."

/my fellow countrymen have become a nation of bed wetters
 
2013-01-30 05:25:18 PM  

Cantankerous Gnome: highendmighty: And how many more 9/11's have there been since the ban?
OK then.

Wouldn't that be 1 every year?


Damn beat me to it.
 
2013-01-30 05:27:03 PM  
As I say in all of these threads:

1) I fly once to twice a month for work. I very rarely have a problem with the TSA.

2) Much more of a pain in the ass is the FAA's stupid rule on e-readers and tablets.
 
2013-01-30 05:27:06 PM  
We really need to quit cleaning up the Bush administration's mess and dissolve the TSA.

The only reason they have power is because Bush farked up and didn't read the intel that the biggest attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor was imminent.
 
2013-01-30 05:27:06 PM  
I don't know where subby got the idea that the post 9-11 (or post 2006) increased security measures were supposed to be temporary.

/yes, it's security theater.
//but it makes enough grandmas feel safe enough to fly that the airline industry hasn't gone bankrupt
///yes it only catches morons
////but you'd have to be a moron to blow up a plane you're on.
 
2013-01-30 05:29:04 PM  

Krieghund: I don't know where subby got the idea that the post 9-11 (or post 2006) increased security measures were supposed to be temporary.

/yes, it's security theater.
//but it makes enough grandmas feel safe enough to fly that the airline industry hasn't gone bankrupt
///yes it only catches morons
////but you'd have to be a moron to blow up a plane you're on.


Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. ~ Milton Friedman (I think)
 
2013-01-30 05:29:05 PM  

Shadowknight: [H]e idea that he could take down the plane without the aid of that butter knife, namely by simply pushing the stick forward and closing his eyes, or that there were literally dozens more of them waiting on the very plane he was about to go fly completely eluded the TSA agent.


The TSA is staffed, by and large, by morons. Morons with power. Never a good combination.
 
2013-01-30 05:30:19 PM  
Let's be honest, if you had enough applesauce you may be able to smother someone, or get them really slimy. and I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to be sitting next to the person covered in applesauce because someone brought applesauce on the plane.
 
2013-01-30 05:30:19 PM  
It's over ten years ago. Let go of it already. Move on.

/Clinton got a beej! Why hasn't he been impeached yet?
//Stop the Vietnam War!
 
2013-01-30 05:32:48 PM  
I think jam would be way worse than applesauce.

content9.flixster.com
 
2013-01-30 05:34:29 PM  

Altair: No applesauce? Think of the children!


I have children. Think of the carpeting!
 
2013-01-30 05:38:46 PM  

LessO2: In fairness, the liquid lunacy started in 2006.

The knee-jerk reaction to that was to ban ALL liquid...even beverages purchased airside and given on airplanes. Then, capitalism reared its ugly head and then all of those for-profit liquids were suddenly deemed safe.

Fact of the matter is, TSA does have equipment to test liquids, but the process of testing is slow and arcane. The reason we have to remove our laptops and shoes is because we as passengers have to continually adapt to the TSA's shortcomings in screening people.

But the TSA has changed their uniforms four times in 10 years, which shows where their real priorities are.


So that's where they found our "uniforms" at such a good price. And they said the colors were based on our company logo colors....
 
2013-01-30 05:51:43 PM  
As long as the United States is controlled by politically correct IDIOTS, crap like this
will never end.
 
2013-01-30 05:54:39 PM  

Cantankerous Gnome: highendmighty: And how many more 9/11's have there been since the ban?
OK then.

Wouldn't that be 1 every year?


You owe me a keyboard. Mine's covered in coffee.
 
2013-01-30 05:58:41 PM  

whidbey: We really need to quit cleaning up the Bush administration's mess and dissolve the TSA.

The only reason they have power is because Bush farked up and didn't read ignored the intel that the biggest attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor was imminent.


FTFY.

World of difference between reading (not only reading, but having been verbally briefed as well) and utterly ignoring what is arguably the most important piece of intel in seventy years.
 
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