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(AZCentral)   Due to complaint from unnamed corporation, Arrogant Brewer renames itself Peoria Artisan Brewery. Bastard   (azcentral.com) divider line 51
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2013-01-30 12:55:55 PM  
Gee, I wonder which company complained.
 
2013-01-30 01:23:36 PM  
I hope it was Stone. I throw no accusations of malevolence, but Stone was "Arrogant" first.
 
2013-01-30 01:29:21 PM  
Jan Brewer?
 
2013-01-30 02:33:02 PM  
Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...
 
2013-01-30 02:33:07 PM  
Jim Brewer is a menace to society. Forcing hard working people to change the name of their ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff..........................
 
2013-01-30 02:58:48 PM  
Sonsofbiatches!
 
2013-01-30 03:00:27 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...


Yes. Yes, it is.
 
2013-01-30 03:11:12 PM  
Stone also has an amazing bar at their brewery.

They seemed too cool to do this sort of thing, I'm glad to see it wasn't them.
 
2013-01-30 03:21:59 PM  
They wanted to use the new full name, but were also threatened with litigation:
Peoria Artisan Brewery, So There!
 
2013-01-30 03:22:17 PM  
The only bastard I care about:

thekegtap.com
 
2013-01-30 03:38:08 PM  
Hierarchy of Bastards: Backwoods > Double > Lukcy > Arrogant > Dirty
 
2013-01-30 03:39:22 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...


Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.
 
2013-01-30 03:42:21 PM  

valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.


You know that not all of Stone's beers are hop laden, right? And very few breweries are even what I would consider "hop-centric". They might have made their names with hoppy offerings, but they are not limited to that style.
 
2013-01-30 03:57:31 PM  

valkore: Please stop this god awful trend

liking what I don't like

Well, at least you said please.
 
2013-01-30 04:21:14 PM  

valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.


Arrogant Bastard ale is not hoppy, it's a malt sledgehammer.
Stone Ruination IPA, on the other hand, will knock you flat with over 100+ IBUs.
TMYK.
 
2013-01-30 04:28:57 PM  

Maud Dib: valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.

Arrogant Bastard ale is not hoppy, it's a malt sledgehammer.
Stone Ruination IPA, on the other hand, will knock you flat with over 100+ IBUs.
TMYK.


I'm pretty sure AB is up there on the IBU scale although it does have a ton of malt flavor as well. A quick Google search for "Arrogant Bastard IBU" seems to confirm the normal (not a special release) recipe is over 100.
 
2013-01-30 04:31:43 PM  

valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.


It's the same as wine, really. The highest rated wines these days are flavor bombs with high tannin levels. Speculation was that years of drinking has nuked their palate so they trend towards stronger flavor because that's all they can taste. Same could apply to beer aficionados I imagine
 
2013-01-30 04:55:44 PM  

bhcompy: valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.

It's the same as wine, really. The highest rated wines these days are flavor bombs with high tannin levels. Speculation was that years of drinking has nuked their palate so they trend towards stronger flavor because that's all they can taste. Same could apply to beer aficionados I imagine


There was an article posted lately that stated something to that extent.
 
2013-01-30 05:01:16 PM  
i only drink the Barley Wine now ... Their old Guardian barley wine is awesome!!
 
2013-01-30 05:06:43 PM  

mjones73: bhcompy: valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.

It's the same as wine, really. The highest rated wines these days are flavor bombs with high tannin levels. Speculation was that years of drinking has nuked their palate so they trend towards stronger flavor because that's all they can taste. Same could apply to beer aficionados I imagine

There was an article posted lately that stated something to that extent.


I don't think that's entirely it- I don't drink a lot of beer (avoiding the calories) but I can't tolerate beers without flavor, either malt or hops. Generic lite lagers don't taste good- the flavor combination just doesn't work. I was accidentally served one at a bar last weekend and almost spit it out. It's the reason Coors keeps selling the "serve it freezing cold" meme- it's because you can't actually taste them if they are that cold.

I'm convinced the only reasons that the mass lagers still sell are 1) price 2) habit.
 
2013-01-30 05:23:07 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: I'm convinced the only reasons that the mass lagers still sell are 1) price 2) habit.


3) Beer is an acquired taste and some people like the effect without heavy flavor
 
2013-01-30 05:34:07 PM  
Don't know if it's the best, or hoppiest beer, but the label is the stuff of legend.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-30 05:51:02 PM  

bhcompy: Glockenspiel Hero: I'm convinced the only reasons that the mass lagers still sell are 1) price 2) habit.

3) Beer is an acquired taste and some people like the effect without heavy flavor


But if you just want to get drunk then why not just do Everclear and fruit juice?  It will taste better and get you drunk far faster.
 
2013-01-30 05:58:45 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: But if you just want to get drunk then why not just do Everclear and fruit juice?  It will taste better and get you drunk far faster.




Hard liquors make me feel awful the next day. Just one or two shots and I'm not going anywhere or doing anything useful until at least 6pm.
 
2013-01-30 06:06:59 PM  

bhcompy: valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.

It's the same as wine, really. The highest rated wines these days are flavor bombs with high tannin levels. Speculation was that years of drinking has nuked their palate so they trend towards stronger flavor because that's all they can taste. Same could apply to beer aficionados I imagine


I went in the opposite direction: I used to love IPAs and other hop-heavy beers, but the more I drink the more I enjoy subtlety and complexity. I think it's just that most people have poor taste.
 
2013-01-30 06:08:35 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: bhcompy: Glockenspiel Hero: I'm convinced the only reasons that the mass lagers still sell are 1) price 2) habit.

3) Beer is an acquired taste and some people like the effect without heavy flavor

But if you just want to get drunk then why not just do Everclear and fruit juice?  It will taste better and get you drunk far faster.


Because there is a difference with knocking back a few beers with friends and pounding hard liquor?
 
2013-01-30 06:16:49 PM  
Budweiser called them for infringement?
 
2013-01-30 07:26:06 PM  

valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.


I tend to agree with you. Thankfully Arrogant Bastard is not extremely hoppy ... more like a strong Guinness
 
2013-01-30 07:52:27 PM  

ghall3: Stone also has an amazing bar at their brewery.


And tasting rooms in other places around the area.

/love the one in downtown Oceanside
 
2013-01-30 08:17:24 PM  

valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.


This. Hops for the sake of hops is a terrible trend. There are some massively hopped beers I enjoy, but there are far more that are just overhopped crap. Adding a farkton of hops is not a shortcut to a good beer. It has to be balanced.
 
2013-01-30 08:46:26 PM  
beerpulse.com

Good for you and the doggies too.
 
2013-01-30 09:49:18 PM  
Wait, they brew that in Peoria?   ... Why am I just finding out...... Oh not them..... wait the fake Peoria.   Now I understand
 
2013-01-30 09:58:11 PM  

ghall3: Stone also has an amazingly overpriced bar at their brewery.


FTFY.  I love Stone, and have been to their on-site restaurant several times, but never on my own dime.  I'm not in the proper tax bracket.
 
2013-01-30 10:16:45 PM  

ghall3: Stone also has an amazing bar at their brewery.

They seemed too cool to do this sort of thing, I'm glad to see it wasn't them.


The problem is that you have to defend your trademarks against all comers or risk losing them.
 
2013-01-30 11:04:16 PM  

HotWingAgenda: ghall3: Stone also has an amazingly overpriced bar at their brewery.

FTFY.  I love Stone, and have been to their on-site restaurant several times, but never on my own dime.  I'm not in the proper tax bracket.


Stone's restaurant is pricey, but I wouldn't consider it OVERpriced.  Not something I could afford to do every week, but I'm not driving out to Escondido every week, either.

/especially as I live in Brooklyn, NY.
 
2013-01-30 11:38:05 PM  

RogermcAllen: The problem is that you have to defend your trademarks against all comers or risk losing them.


Unless that trademark is so well-known and confusion is highly likely, normally the TM holder has no right to the individual words of a name composed of two or more common English words. That is, unless the company in question is a cable manufacturer with an unstoppable monster of a legal team...
 
2013-01-31 02:08:14 AM  
i can't get all beer snobby. i gladly go mouth to ass on a first date so you know my taste buds are not refined.
 
2013-01-31 07:14:05 AM  
My company has an insurance product that contains the word "pal".
We got a cease and desist order from eBay/PayPal. Evidently, their lawyers think that they own "Pal".

CSB
 
2013-01-31 09:38:50 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: mjones73: bhcompy: valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.

It's the same as wine, really. The highest rated wines these days are flavor bombs with high tannin levels. Speculation was that years of drinking has nuked their palate so they trend towards stronger flavor because that's all they can taste. Same could apply to beer aficionados I imagine

There was an article posted lately that stated something to that extent.

I don't think that's entirely it- I don't drink a lot of beer (avoiding the calories) but I can't tolerate beers without flavor, either malt or hops. Generic lite lagers don't taste good- the flavor combination just doesn't work. I was accidentally served one at a bar last weekend and almost spit it out. It's the reason Coors keeps selling the "serve it freezing cold" meme- it's because you can't actually taste them if they are that cold.

I'm convinced the only reasons that the mass lagers still sell are 1) price 2) habit.


Not entirely.

My favorite beer types are stouts, whether Guiness, Murphy's, Sam Smith Imperial, Souther Star Bury the Hatchet, whatever.

That being said, when it's 100 degrees out and i've been busting ass in the garage or yard i like a freezing cold coors light. It actually is refreshing.
 
2013-01-31 09:54:21 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: mjones73: bhcompy: valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.

It's the same as wine, really. The highest rated wines these days are flavor bombs with high tannin levels. Speculation was that years of drinking has nuked their palate so they trend towards stronger flavor because that's all they can taste. Same could apply to beer aficionados I imagine

There was an article posted lately that stated something to that extent.

I don't think that's entirely it- I don't drink a lot of beer (avoiding the calories) but I can't tolerate beers without flavor, either malt or hops. Generic lite lagers don't taste good- the flavor combination just doesn't work. I was accidentally served one at a bar last weekend and almost spit it out. It's the reason Coors keeps selling the "serve it freezing cold" meme- it's because you can't actually taste them if they are that cold.

I'm convinced the only reasons that the mass lagers still sell are 1) price 2) habit.


Really dude?
 
2013-01-31 11:08:24 AM  
beeradvocate.com

Meh.  You aren't a true beer snob unless you only drink Oaked Arrogant Bastard.
Or Oaked Double Bastard.  Or Lukcy 13astartd

urbanbeernerd.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-31 11:12:38 AM  

valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.


actually, the issue is that your taste buds become less sensitive to hops over time.  When someone first drinks hoppy beers, the hoppiness is overwhelming.  Over time, they become desensitized and require more hops to create that overwhelming hoppy feeling they expect.  So breweries respond by adding more hops to their beers.  Less hoppy beers stop selling and get discontinued and the hoppier end of the line keeps moving to more and more hops.  That is why you are seeing beers get more and more hoppy.
 
2013-01-31 12:20:58 PM  

SlothB77: valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.

actually, the issue is that your taste buds become less sensitive to hops over time.  When someone first drinks hoppy beers, the hoppiness is overwhelming.  Over time, they become desensitized and require more hops to create that overwhelming hoppy feeling they expect.  So breweries respond by adding more hops to their beers.  Less hoppy beers stop selling and get discontinued and the hoppier end of the line keeps moving to more and more hops.  That is why you are seeing beers get more and more hoppy.


i think that the beer world has really hit its stride right now.  super hoppiness is still popular, but brewers seem to be focusing more on making the right beer.  The selection right now is awesome.  even at crappy bars that only have a couple of taps, I don't see bud lite or coors lite any more, i'm seeing real beers on tap.

in conclusion, i don't think i responded to anything you said, but hooray beer.
 
2013-01-31 01:04:31 PM  

valkore: HellRaisingHoosier: Arrogant Bastard is amazing.

That is all ...

Why most craft beer drinkers insist on having a metric ton of hops dropped on their tastebuds when enjoying a brew, I will never understand. Please stop this god awful trend.


I think that part of it is America's infatuation with IPAs. The way I see it craft beer is just starting to hit its stride. Many people whose only prior experience with beer is "lager", "amber bock", or whatever other words the big companies slap on their bottles will have a gut-check reaction against a typical beer type and go for something which is appreciably different (hence the IPA love). We've finally gotten past the initial surge, so you see craft breweries currently expanding their offerings. Personally, I insist on having a metric ton of Imperial Russian Stout dropped on my tastebuds, and the selection at my haunts leads me to believe I'm not alone.
 
2013-01-31 02:34:51 PM  
bertor_vidas:

I think that part of it is America's infatuation with IPAs. The way I see it craft beer is just starting to hit its stride. Many people whose only prior experience with beer is "lager", "amber bock", or whatever other words the big companies slap on their bottles will have a gut-check reaction against a typical beer type and go for something which is appreciably different (hence the IPA love). We've finally gotten past the initial surge, so you see craft breweries currently expanding their offerings. Personally, I insist on having a metric ton of Imperial Russian Stout dropped on my tastebuds, and the selection at my haunts leads me to believe I'm not alone.

Well, for IPAs you expect hoppiness.  And I love a great IPA any time of year.  You don't expect a lots of hops taste with a RIS.  I am a fan of stouts in the winter, but come August when it is 100 degrees and humid here, the last thing i want is something pitch black that tastes like chocolate and coffee.
 
2013-01-31 02:42:22 PM  

pute kisses like a man: i think that the beer world has really hit its stride right now. super hoppiness is still popular, but brewers seem to be focusing more on making the right beer. The selection right now is awesome. even at crappy bars that only have a couple of taps, I don't see bud lite or coors lite any more, i'm seeing real beers on tap.


the worst is, considering the selection of beers available, when you go to a bar and the options on tap are:

Bud whatever
Coors whatever
Miller whatever
yeungling whatever
Token Sam Adams
Token Blue Moon

First, bud light, coors light and miller lite are all the same - bad.  If you are willing to drink one, you are willing to drink all the others.  Just pick one for the plebes, then use the other two taps for something else
Second, having Sam Adams doesn't mean you have a craft beer selection.
Third, if sam adams and blue moon is the limit of your knowledge of beers, you really shouldn't be running a bar

If anyone has seen any flavored Bourbon County Brand Stout other than the coffee, let me know what and where.
 
2013-01-31 03:00:38 PM  

SlothB77: bertor_vidas:

I think that part of it is America's infatuation with IPAs. The way I see it craft beer is just starting to hit its stride. Many people whose only prior experience with beer is "lager", "amber bock", or whatever other words the big companies slap on their bottles will have a gut-check reaction against a typical beer type and go for something which is appreciably different (hence the IPA love). We've finally gotten past the initial surge, so you see craft breweries currently expanding their offerings. Personally, I insist on having a metric ton of Imperial Russian Stout dropped on my tastebuds, and the selection at my haunts leads me to believe I'm not alone.

Well, for IPAs you expect hoppiness.  And I love a great IPA any time of year.  You don't expect a lots of hops taste with a RIS.  I am a fan of stouts in the winter, but come August when it is 100 degrees and humid here, the last thing i want is something pitch black that tastes like chocolate and coffee.


My comment was in response to valkore's lament that everyone and their brother seems to have an IPA or some similar style beer which has a high IBU. I was merely stating that I felt the proliferation of high-IBU beer (IPAs in particular) was due to a revolt against traditional American beer styles (many claim bock, lager stylings but are fairly bland) as part of the craft movement and that both beer lovers and brewers were branching out from the "normal" beer/hoppy beer combination which many companies follow and exploring other styles (using my affection for big black quaffs as an example). Personally, I find IPAs to be fine with meals, but I think that hot temperatures and thirst for beer mean (to borrow from Meet the Engineer) "...drink a bock. And if that don't work, drink more bock. Like this finely-crafted Three Philosopher's Quadrupel."
 
2013-01-31 04:12:35 PM  

SlothB77: Bud whatever
Coors whatever
Miller whatever
yeungling whatever
Token Sam Adams
Token Blue Moon


heh heh heh... this describes the taps of so many bars that I never patronize.  i try to tell people that yeungling is actually not very good beer, but people from the north seem to think it's god's great gift to the world.  and fark sam adams.  no matter how much i want to like sam adams, their beer is crap.  finally, blue moon... i give that shiat to my wife with an orange peel and even she thinks it sucks
 
2013-01-31 05:24:50 PM  

SlothB77: pute kisses like a man: i think that the beer world has really hit its stride right now. super hoppiness is still popular, but brewers seem to be focusing more on making the right beer. The selection right now is awesome. even at crappy bars that only have a couple of taps, I don't see bud lite or coors lite any more, i'm seeing real beers on tap.

the worst is, considering the selection of beers available, when you go to a bar and the options on tap are:

Bud whatever
Coors whatever
Miller whatever
yeungling whatever
Token Sam Adams
Token Blue Moon

First, bud light, coors light and miller lite are all the same - bad.  If you are willing to drink one, you are willing to drink all the others.  Just pick one for the plebes, then use the other two taps for something else
Second, having Sam Adams doesn't mean you have a craft beer selection.
Third, if sam adams and blue moon is the limit of your knowledge of beers, you really shouldn't be running a bar

If anyone has seen any flavored Bourbon County Brand Stout other than the coffee, let me know what and where.


Do you know why?  Because it's buying kegs that expire for beer that no one drinks is stupid.  Plus, craft breweries don't have line cleaners that come and clean your lines for you as part of the contract for having them on tap in the first place.
 
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2013-01-31 07:56:31 PM  
Managed to find a 6 pack of this at the store the other day.

thefullpint.com

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