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(Esquire)   Deval Patrick appoints William Cowen to serve as the replacement for John Kerry until the recall election this June. Believe it or not, this means that we will have 2 black Senators for the first time in American history   (esquire.com) divider line 62
    More: Interesting, Deval Patrick, John Kerry, backup player, recall election, Charles Grassley, Lawrence O'Donnell, Barney Frank, ancient Greeks  
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2013-01-30 10:49:11 AM
And neither were elected. Strange.
 
2013-01-30 11:56:29 AM
Poor Barney, I was rooting for him.
 
2013-01-30 12:52:36 PM

DamnYankees: And neither were elected. Strange.


This is just another step in Obama's plan to have America ruled by unelected black people.
 
2013-01-30 01:03:14 PM
DRTFA but how is it a 'Recall Election'? Wouldn't it just be a special election?
 
2013-01-30 01:10:52 PM

Aar1012: DRTFA but how is it a 'Recall Election'? Wouldn't it just be a special election?


Yes.
 
2013-01-30 01:32:12 PM

Aar1012: DRTFA but how is it a 'Recall Election'? Wouldn't it just be a special election?


Yeah, I farked that up.
 
2013-01-30 01:47:09 PM
William COWEN, as opposed to William Cohen.

Interesting.
 
2013-01-30 01:52:36 PM
cdn100.iofferphoto.com
 
2013-01-30 01:54:45 PM

kbronsito: DamnYankees: And neither were elected. Strange.

This is just another step in Obama's plan to have America ruled by unelected black people.


Which is exactly what my grandmother warned me about after his first election.

"Now everyone will think this is normal."
 
2013-01-30 02:28:41 PM
However, they only get 3/5th of a vote each.

/because they're appointed. What were you thinking?
 
2013-01-30 02:35:01 PM
I thought Elizabeth Warren was Native American. I had no idea that she as black too.
 
2013-01-30 02:38:09 PM

johnryan51: Poor Barney, I was rooting for him.


Heh... Me too. Purely for the whining and gnashing of teeth from the GOP which would have ensued.


Would have happily voted for Frank again if he had not retired. Loved having him as my Representative in Congress.
 
2013-01-30 02:38:39 PM
I thought I saw something on Twitter on how there have only been 8 black Senators, and only 4 have been elected.

I'm not double checking that, because I'm lazy. But I'll repeat it nonetheless.
 
2013-01-30 02:39:28 PM
Barney Frank sure is butthurt about this, and not in the way he's accustomed to.
 
2013-01-30 02:40:30 PM
Recall election? Does subby know something we dont?
 
2013-01-30 02:46:20 PM

soopey: I thought Elizabeth Warren was Native American. I had no idea that she as black too.


Oh....THIS was the joke?

/facepalm
 
2013-01-30 02:48:12 PM

soopey: I thought Elizabeth Warren was Native American. I had no idea that she as black too.


The other one is Tim Scott (R-SC).

And some people on the right have a problem with that.

Link
 
2013-01-30 02:50:35 PM
It's not a box of crayons
 
2013-01-30 02:50:59 PM

Car_Ramrod: I thought I saw something on Twitter on how there have only been 8 black Senators, and only 4 have been elected.

I'm not double checking that, because I'm lazy. But I'll repeat it nonetheless.


According to Wiki:

8 total
5 elected (2 before 17th Amendment)
3 appointed
 
2013-01-30 02:55:45 PM

SixPaperJoint: Car_Ramrod: I thought I saw something on Twitter on how there have only been 8 black Senators, and only 4 have been elected.

I'm not double checking that, because I'm lazy. But I'll repeat it nonetheless.

According to Wiki:

8 total
5 elected (2 before 17th Amendment)
3 appointed


Gracias.
 
2013-01-30 02:57:36 PM
HighonCraic

And I bet stormfront had a problem with it too. VDare is a white supremacist site.
 
2013-01-30 02:57:50 PM
I enjoy the fact that Elizabeth Warren is now the senior Senator from MA.
 
2013-01-30 03:00:40 PM
And the state's next elected Senator will be brown

/coulda had Barney, Deval, if you put aside your ego
 
2013-01-30 03:01:05 PM

Herman Borrach: I enjoy the fact that Elizabeth Warren is now the senior Senator from MA.


It'll be even funnier if Scott Brown wins the special election... Then he'll be the junior senator.

Though, personally, I'd rather not have Scott Brown anywhere near any elected office for the Commonwealth again.
 
2013-01-30 03:03:08 PM

zerkalo: And the state's next elected Senator will be brown


It's not really a gimme for him... he's still got good numbers, in general, but he burned a lot of good will in the election against Warren.

He really cam across as a douche bag in pretty much all the debates and he lost a lot of support from women.

Really depends on who the MA Dems nominate, I guess.
 
2013-01-30 03:03:19 PM
Affirmative action
 
2013-01-30 03:05:37 PM

birdboy2000: HighonCraic

And I bet stormfront had a problem with it too. VDare is a white supremacist site.


No doubt. It just highlights the difficultry Republicans have with reaching out to minorities; the far right fringe gets aggravated whenever it happens.
 
2013-01-30 03:06:14 PM
If anyone's listening to Kerry's farewell speech, it's pretty good.....man if this guy was president
instead of he who shall not be named..ugg
 
2013-01-30 03:12:21 PM

keylock71: zerkalo: And the state's next elected Senator will be brown

It's not really a gimme for him... he's still got good numbers, in general, but he burned a lot of good will in the election against Warren.

He really cam across as a douche bag in pretty much all the debates and he lost a lot of support from women.

Really depends on who the MA Dems nominate, I guess.


It also depends on how dedicated the Democrats are to holding the seat; to wit, who the Democrats have stumping for the candidate. If they've got Obama, and Warren, and Kerry, and Patrick, and Biden out there, Scotty2Hotty will have quite the uphill climb.
 
2013-01-30 03:14:12 PM
That's a bit of a weird choice. He's not one of the favorites to win the special election (even with appointed incumbency on his side), he doesn't have a lot of political experience and he doesn't have large name recognition. Maybe Patrick is trying to change that?
 
2013-01-30 03:17:16 PM

zerkalo: And the state's next elected Senator will be brown

/coulda had Barney, Deval, if you put aside your ego


Hastor: That's a bit of a weird choice. He's not one of the favorites to win the special election (even with appointed incumbency on his side), he doesn't have a lot of political experience and he doesn't have large name recognition. Maybe Patrick is trying to change that?


You guys do realize the fact that this guy is just a placeholder until the special election when Patrick will be running for the seat himself, right?
 
2013-01-30 03:21:03 PM

Hastor: That's a bit of a weird choice. He's not one of the favorites to win the special election (even with appointed incumbency on his side), he doesn't have a lot of political experience and he doesn't have large name recognition. Maybe Patrick is trying to change that?


I think the understanding is that the person appointed will not run in the special election.
 
2013-01-30 03:21:51 PM

johnryan51: Poor Barney, I was rooting for him.


me too. i'm hoping he will run and win but that's not looking too good.
 
2013-01-30 03:39:36 PM
I don't think Frank wants any part of running again. He just wanted the interim appointment (to tweak McTurtle and friends). Cowen just retired as Patrick's chief-of-staff to go back to the private sector, he's not going to want to run, either.

/MA elected the first African-American Senator (Edward Brooke) back in 1966.
 
2013-01-30 03:40:07 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: zerkalo: And the state's next elected Senator will be brown

/coulda had Barney, Deval, if you put aside your ego

Hastor: That's a bit of a weird choice. He's not one of the favorites to win the special election (even with appointed incumbency on his side), he doesn't have a lot of political experience and he doesn't have large name recognition. Maybe Patrick is trying to change that?

You guys do realize the fact that this guy is just a placeholder until the special election when Patrick will be running for the seat himself, right?


Ed Markey is the favorite for that. Patrick will probably run somewhere down the line after Markey serves a term or two- he's not young, he probably won't serve that long.
 
2013-01-30 03:43:41 PM
Oh.....Brooke was a "Republican"
 
2013-01-30 03:44:26 PM

wooden_badger: I don't think Frank wants any part of running again. He just wanted the interim appointment (to tweak McTurtle and friends). Cowen just retired as Patrick's chief-of-staff to go back to the private sector, he's not going to want to run, either.

/MA elected the first African-American Senator (Edward Brooke) back in 1966.


The general idea on appointments like this is to appoint somebody who absolutely won't run. You want somebody qualified who's also willing to not get in the way of the real campaign. That way, you don't get accused of playing politics and trying to give your favorite an advantage over party rivals in the primary, or the opposition candidate in the general.
 
2013-01-30 03:50:51 PM

cptjeff: wooden_badger: I don't think Frank wants any part of running again. He just wanted the interim appointment (to tweak McTurtle and friends). Cowen just retired as Patrick's chief-of-staff to go back to the private sector, he's not going to want to run, either.

/MA elected the first African-American Senator (Edward Brooke) back in 1966.

The general idea on appointments like this is to appoint somebody who absolutely won't run. You want somebody qualified who's also willing to not get in the way of the real campaign. That way, you don't get accused of playing politics and trying to give your favorite an advantage over party rivals in the primary, or the opposition candidate in the general.


Of course.

In that vein, it would have been rather amusing had Patrick appointed Scott Brown back in.
/yeah, I know, I'm ducking.
//hell, he should have offered residency and the seat to Sarah Palin. Comedians would love him for it.
 
2013-01-30 03:52:27 PM

Hastor: That's a bit of a weird choice. He's not one of the favorites to win the special election (even with appointed incumbency on his side), he doesn't have a lot of political experience and he doesn't have large name recognition. Maybe Patrick is trying to change that?


No, not at all. You don't appoint someone who wants to win the election, you appoint someone who will be a placeholder until the election is held.
 
2013-01-30 03:53:48 PM

qorkfiend: keylock71: zerkalo: And the state's next elected Senator will be brown

It's not really a gimme for him... he's still got good numbers, in general, but he burned a lot of good will in the election against Warren.

He really cam across as a douche bag in pretty much all the debates and he lost a lot of support from women.

Really depends on who the MA Dems nominate, I guess.

It also depends on how dedicated the Democrats are to holding the seat; to wit, who the Democrats have stumping for the candidate. If they've got Obama, and Warren, and Kerry, and Patrick, and Biden out there, Scotty2Hotty will have quite the uphill climb.


This is true... And at the end of the day, Democrat or Republican, one senator isn't going to change the dynamics of the Senate significantly.

Personally, after the last 4 or 5 years, I have no desire to reward any Republican with a Senate seat. The party has amply demonstrated they don't give a shiat about folks like my family, so I see no reason to reward their shiattiness... Especially, when we're talking about representing the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in the Senate.

I never saw the appeal of Brown, anyway... Always reminded me of the stereotypical, privileged, dumb high school jock.
 
2013-01-30 03:54:06 PM

wooden_badger:
/MA elected the first African-American Senator (Edward Brooke) back in 1966.


Hiram Revels begs to differ.
 
2013-01-30 03:55:10 PM

wooden_badger: //hell, he should have offered residency and the seat to Sarah Palin. Comedians would love him for it.


You shut your whore mouth!!
 
2013-01-30 03:57:15 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: wooden_badger:
/MA elected the first African-American Senator (Edward Brooke) back in 1966.

Hiram Revels begs to differ.


Ah, you are correct. Revels was elected by the MS State Senate as was custom at the time. Brooke was the first elected by popular vote.
 
2013-01-30 04:01:54 PM

Herman Borrach: I enjoy the fact that Elizabeth Warren is now the senior Senator from MA.


Lulz, didn't think of it that way.

Disappointed that it wasn't good ol' Barney Frank and instead a Deval Patrick crony. However, if he does a decent job, I won't care that it was obvious cronyism.

Also, fellow MA citizens, PLEASE don't vote in Scott Brown again. kthx
 
2013-01-30 04:05:04 PM

TheSelphie: Herman Borrach: I enjoy the fact that Elizabeth Warren is now the senior Senator from MA.

Lulz, didn't think of it that way.

Disappointed that it wasn't good ol' Barney Frank and instead a Deval Patrick crony. However, if he does a decent job, I won't care that it was obvious cronyism.

Also, fellow MA citizens, PLEASE don't vote in Scott Brown again. kthx


As long as the Democrats put up someone who doesn't think the seat is automatically theirs (meaning NOT Martha Coakley) Scottie's job will be much tougher.
 
2013-01-30 04:11:36 PM

Aar1012: DRTFA but how is it a 'Recall Election'? Wouldn't it just be a special election?


"special" like subby.
 
2013-01-30 04:19:55 PM

johnryan51: Poor Barney, I was rooting for him.


I wasn't.  I thank the stars he is out of office.  Now I just wish the gay rights groups would stop propping him up at dinners and allow him to go on bitter rants.

/hate bitter queens
 
2013-01-30 04:32:00 PM

keylock71: It'll be even funnier if Scott Brown wins the special election... Then he'll be the junior senator.


i bet he doesn't run. If he does, he will end up facing 4 senate races in 4 years in a tough state for a republican. if he loses the special election or the regular election, he's basically crushed politically. If he waits and runs for governor, he may have a better shot.
 
2013-01-30 04:39:04 PM

tlchwi02: keylock71: It'll be even funnier if Scott Brown wins the special election... Then he'll be the junior senator.

i bet he doesn't run. If he does, he will end up facing 4 senate races in 4 years in a tough state for a republican. if he loses the special election or the regular election, he's basically crushed politically. If he waits and runs for governor, he may have a better shot.


As far as I know, he hasn't made any kind of announcement yet... So, he might not. I hope he doesn't run. I'm kind of sick of listening to his "Aw shucks, I'm just a regular guy with a truck and a barn jacket" routine.

He might be holding out for Governor... Good point.
 
2013-01-30 05:14:39 PM

keylock71: tlchwi02: keylock71: It'll be even funnier if Scott Brown wins the special election... Then he'll be the junior senator.

i bet he doesn't run. If he does, he will end up facing 4 senate races in 4 years in a tough state for a republican. if he loses the special election or the regular election, he's basically crushed politically. If he waits and runs for governor, he may have a better shot.

As far as I know, he hasn't made any kind of announcement yet... So, he might not. I hope he doesn't run. I'm kind of sick of listening to his "Aw shucks, I'm just a regular guy with a truck and a barn jacket" routine.

He might be holding out for Governor... Good point.


You know, I would have considered voting for him for governor, if he hadn't made it so clear in the last campaign that he's a shiat head.
 
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