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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   Pick your ban: Teen girl who performed at Obama's inauguration fatally shot in Chicago   (startribune.com) divider line 576
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2013-01-30 10:53:34 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: cptjeff: Bubbarella: She shouldn't have been hanging out with gang members.

She wasn't. She was waiting with friends at a bus stop in a decent part of the city, and was hit by stray gunfire.

The man jumped a fence, shot at them, then jumped in a car and sped away.

That's not stray, that's deliberate.


The tv news report I saw said otherwise, and I just posted to that effect, but I'm quoting you just to ensure you see it if you have notifications on.
 
2013-01-30 10:53:40 AM  

Cybernetic: I see that Chicago's strict gun-control laws are working as well as ever.


If only those kids had been armed.
 
2013-01-30 10:54:04 AM  

IlGreven: And therefore, everyone should have guns.


Curious, but why does it have to be one or the other? Are you a sith?
 
2013-01-30 10:54:14 AM  
This article states that

Many of the teens with Pendleton at the time of the shooting were believed to be gang members and left the scene, according to reports.

Wonder if some gangster got street cred for killing her? Wonder if some in the black community might hate her because she performed at the inaugural? The old crab in the bucket syndrome?
 
2013-01-30 10:54:23 AM  
But guns are banned in Chicago.
 
2013-01-30 10:54:50 AM  

factoryconnection: What the living hell is wrong with people? Charge at a group of kids huddled in the rain and just start firing? Although I assume this is personal, the wanton disregard for any sort of humanity is still appalling. I hate these "I have a beef with someone you know/love, now you die!" stories that come out of the dregs of society and gangster movies.


I know, in our rarer shootings and gang murders here in the UK the same attitude is displayed. Is it a sort of massive arrogance? "I'm so important that I'll risk the lives of innocent bystanders who are nothing to do with my beef."? Or is it retarded deludedness: "I'm such an incredibly good shot despite not knowing shiat about guns nor ever having bothered to learn."?
Personally I think massive ignorance breeds massive arrogance.
 
2013-01-30 10:54:51 AM  

mjones73: Ed Grubermann: Cybernetic: I see that Chicago's strict gun-control laws are working as well as ever.

And our thread's designated asshole makes himself known...

For stating the obvious?


Are you an idiot?

So now correlation equals causation? Okay good, then we have 4x the homicide rate as the UK because we can get guns way easier, having a gun around you makes you more likely to kill your family than an intruder, southern states with more lax gun control have higher homicide rates than even Illinois, New York, etc because they have more lax gun control, and CCW holders are just as likely to commit homicide by gun on another person than non, meaning despite alleged higher responsibility, they're actually equal or more prone to shooting other people.

Now shut up or GTFO.
 
2013-01-30 10:54:59 AM  
I don't know how to feel. This is really horrible but it's pretty much common place in Chicago now.
 
2013-01-30 10:55:00 AM  

ScouserDuck: IlGreven: Keep defending your gun rights to the hilt, Wayne. You'll get counter-examples every day.

/NRA against every reasonable measure to curb gun violence, up to and including mental health screenings.
//Mainly because they have many health organizations and more than a few insurance companies on their "Enemies of the 2nd Amendment" blacklist.

This absolutely a counter example....of how strict gun control doesn't work.


What strict gun control? One city having strict laws means absolutely nothing. Travel just outside the city, and you get the same lax gun laws as everywhere else.
 
2013-01-30 10:55:05 AM  

MichiganFTL: IlGreven: And therefore, everyone should have guns.

Curious, but why does it have to be one or the other? Are you a sith?


I think you need to calibrate your sarcasm detector.
 
2013-01-30 10:55:05 AM  

cptjeff: AverageAmericanGuy: cptjeff: Bubbarella: She shouldn't have been hanging out with gang members.

She wasn't. She was waiting with friends at a bus stop in a decent part of the city, and was hit by stray gunfire.

The man jumped a fence, shot at them, then jumped in a car and sped away.

That's not stray, that's deliberate.

The tv news report I saw said otherwise, and I just posted to that effect, but I'm quoting you just to ensure you see it if you have notifications on.


I do, but it takes a long time before I get the email. Better to just feed my OCD and hit Command-R.
 
2013-01-30 10:55:08 AM  

cptjeff: She wasn't. She was waiting with friends at a bus stop in a decent part of the city, and was hit by stray gunfire.


From another article: Many of the teens with Pendleton at the time of the shooting were believed to be gang members and left the scene, according to reports.

Not too sure how decent a part of the city it really is, either. It says she was near her school, and the school itself is in a decidedly red area on richblockspoorblocks.
 
2013-01-30 10:55:20 AM  
Fast and furious, Baby.
 
2013-01-30 10:55:27 AM  
we should ban teens, girls, Obamas, Chicago, performances, fatalities

did i miss anything?
 
2013-01-30 10:55:36 AM  

cgraves67: Chacago: "You're safe here; guns are illegal"


all you got to do is buy them from a neighboring city where they are still legal. duh
 
2013-01-30 10:55:38 AM  

Ed Grubermann: Cybernetic: I see that Chicago's strict gun-control laws are working as well as ever.

And our thread's designated asshole makes himself known...


Because the very day a tragedy involving the use of guns happens, that's the right time to talk about more gun control as with Sandy Hook, but if circumstance shows that gun control is doing nothing, then it's "too soon" to talk about the problem with gun control, right?
 
2013-01-30 10:55:48 AM  

cptjeff: Bubbarella: She shouldn't have been hanging out with gang members.

She wasn't. She was waiting with friends at a bus stop in a decent part of the city, and was hit by stray gunfire.


Don't care, pointless news. How many where killed in the last 24 hours? So what is someone blew a White House official to let her perform. Farking pointless news.
 
2013-01-30 10:56:00 AM  

ScouserDuck: IlGreven: Keep defending your gun rights to the hilt, Wayne. You'll get counter-examples every day.

/NRA against every reasonable measure to curb gun violence, up to and including mental health screenings.
//Mainly because they have many health organizations and more than a few insurance companies on their "Enemies of the 2nd Amendment" blacklist.

This absolutely a counter example....of how strict gun control doesn't work.


Then the UK is absolute proof gun control does.
 
2013-01-30 10:56:34 AM  
It's not GDI America, it's GDI Chicago.
 
2013-01-30 10:56:36 AM  
How about banning dumb black teenagers who randomly shoot into large groups of people without even hitting their intended target.

How farking stupid are they to just point and shoot?

This is why they can't be serial killers. White people are farked in the head, but they're smart enough to kill their targets.
 
2013-01-30 10:56:42 AM  

TheDumbBlonde: Fast and furious, Baby.


Living up to your handle one post at a time.
 
2013-01-30 10:56:59 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Lexx: His hands are tied even though people he now personal ties to are dying.

He should make shooting people illegal and also say it is immoral.
If only there was a Mayor in Chicago who 0bama could talk to and if only there were strict gun laws.


Do you ever say anything that doesn't make you sound like a tool?
 
2013-01-30 10:57:10 AM  

KiwDaWabbit: God damn it, America.


as you wish
 
2013-01-30 10:57:13 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: MichiganFTL: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Paradise.

So what you're really saying is that Hispanics are winning?

Looks like 'Other' is the winner.


Nothing Sam the Slayer can't fix
 
2013-01-30 10:57:26 AM  

DoomPaul: But guns are banned in Chicago.


all you got to do is buy them from a neighboring city where they are still legal. duh
 
2013-01-30 10:57:40 AM  

WeenerGord: This article states that

Many of the teens with Pendleton at the time of the shooting were believed to be gang members and left the scene, according to reports.

Wonder if some gangster got street cred for killing her? Wonder if some in the black community might hate her because she performed at the inaugural? The old crab in the bucket syndrome?


Great.  Now I'm hungry for crabs.
 
2013-01-30 10:58:09 AM  

I drunk what: we should ban teens, girls, Obamas, Chicago, performances, fatalities

did i miss anything?


You forgot inaugurations.
 
2013-01-30 10:58:29 AM  

MichiganFTL: mjones73: For stating the obvious?

You put 2.7mil people in a 234 sq mi area, throw in some poverty, gangs and racial tension...


So you're saying it's not a gun problem, but a people problem?
 
2013-01-30 10:58:30 AM  

China White Tea: cptjeff: She wasn't. She was waiting with friends at a bus stop in a decent part of the city, and was hit by stray gunfire.

From another article: Many of the teens with Pendleton at the time of the shooting were believed to be gang members and left the scene, according to reports.

Not too sure how decent a part of the city it really is, either. It says she was near her school, and the school itself is in a decidedly red area on richblockspoorblocks.


Huh, I'm gonna try to dig up something by a real journalist. Not that I don't trust TV news or regional newspapers, but...
 
2013-01-30 10:58:44 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: [www.wnd.com image 607x405]
[www.wnd.com image 609x517]

Paradise.


Blacks and hispanics with a disproportionate amount of the violence? Sounds racist.
 
2013-01-30 10:58:49 AM  
Gun morons - "nothing is casual until we can use it to our advantage, despite all evidence to the contrary."
 
2013-01-30 10:59:48 AM  
I hope the conservatives' cheers were just a tad more subdued than when Chicago didn't get to host the Olympics.
 
2013-01-30 11:00:00 AM  
Or pick the other ban about how kids were dying from guns in Obama's home city "not so good" area before the school shooting.
 
2013-01-30 11:00:04 AM  

justtray: ScouserDuck: IlGreven: Keep defending your gun rights to the hilt, Wayne. You'll get counter-examples every day.

/NRA against every reasonable measure to curb gun violence, up to and including mental health screenings.
//Mainly because they have many health organizations and more than a few insurance companies on their "Enemies of the 2nd Amendment" blacklist.

This absolutely a counter example....of how strict gun control doesn't work.

Then the UK is absolute proof gun control does.


Sure..but UK style gun control is unconstitutional.... On the other hand, there are 5,000 glassing incidents in the UK a year.....I'd rather be shot.
 
2013-01-30 11:00:09 AM  
This is a good reminder why everyone should carry at least one gun.
 
2013-01-30 11:00:17 AM  
so with the combined massive Brainpower of Fark™, how about tossing out some solutions to this dilemma?
 
2013-01-30 11:00:28 AM  

IlGreven: /NRA against every reasonable measure to curb gun violence, up to and including mental health screenings.


you are an idiot.  stop getting your talking points from Schultz and Madow, you are just embarrassing yourself.

The NRA has supported mental health as part of background checks.

They have been blocked by some states who are resisting.

Here, from libby MA
 
2013-01-30 11:00:30 AM  
We've got a black people problem.
 
2013-01-30 11:00:31 AM  

Ed Grubermann: Cybernetic: I see that Chicago's strict gun-control laws are working as well as ever.

And our thread's designated asshole makes himself known...


Indeed he has.
 
2013-01-30 11:01:40 AM  
Ms Chambers, from Chicago, recently had the 4th of her children killed by gunfire.

/damn
 
2013-01-30 11:02:10 AM  

d23: IlGreven: Keep defending your gun rights to the hilt, Wayne. You'll get counter-examples every day.

/NRA against every reasonable measure to curb gun violence, up to and including mental health screenings.
//Mainly because they have many health organizations and more than a few insurance companies on their "Enemies of the 2nd Amendment" blacklist.

The NRA is a corporate lobby group. They have no care for public safety. Their goal is to sell as many guns as possible. Why aren't people getting that? The only nominally represent gun owners... they really don't give a shiat about them. They are a corporate group. Stop listening to them about gun safety. They don't care.


The NRA was against legally required trigger locks as a violation of your Constitutional rights.

That is...they were against the idea until a rider that immunized gun manufacturers from lawsuits was attached to a trigger lock bill. Somehow, that made them reconsider their opposition.

It's almost as if the NRA is primarily interested in representing the gun industry.
 
2013-01-30 11:02:12 AM  

KiwDaWabbit: God damn it, America.


No, god damn it criminals
 
2013-01-30 11:02:12 AM  

devilEther: cgraves67: Chacago: "You're safe here; guns are illegal"

all you got to do is buy them from a neighboring city where they are still legal. duh



You think gangbangers buy their guns only from legal sources? HAHA!

They wait for the background check too, right? HAHA!

Wise up America!
 
2013-01-30 11:02:13 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: So you're saying it's not a gun problem, but a people problem?


I don't believe I really made a point to either side, but I think it's a comprehensive issue that is far deeper than a single inanimate object. I'm looking for more of the motive side than the act. There seems to be cultural, gang, economical, and psychological issues at play that are far deeper and more widespread than simply access to metal. Let's look at them ALL (yes, including guns). I think it's just naive to focus only on one.
 
2013-01-30 11:02:23 AM  
I vote it DID have something to do with the President.
 
2013-01-30 11:02:44 AM  
SPORTSMEN
 
2013-01-30 11:02:49 AM  

Raharu: tenpoundsofcheese: Lexx: His hands are tied even though people he now personal ties to are dying.

He should make shooting people illegal and also say it is immoral.
If only there was a Mayor in Chicago who 0bama could talk to and if only there were strict gun laws.

Do you ever say anything that doesn't make you sound like a tool?


So you are don't support laws against killing people, you think it is moral?  Good to know who you really are.
 
2013-01-30 11:03:02 AM  

cptjeff: Huh, I'm gonna try to dig up something by a real journalist. Not that I don't trust TV news or regional newspapers, but...


It is possible that she *was* in a decent (or, at least, financially above-average) area. The best resolution for the location of the shooting that I've seen states "blocks away" from the school, which could put her in any of a number of neighborhoods. On average, though, when I think of "decent neighborhoods in Chicago", I don't think of any further south than I-55.
 
2013-01-30 11:03:42 AM  

justtray: mjones73: Ed Grubermann: Cybernetic: I see that Chicago's strict gun-control laws are working as well as ever.

And our thread's designated asshole makes himself known...

For stating the obvious?

Are you an idiot?

So now correlation equals causation? Okay good, then we have 4x the homicide rate as the UK because we can get guns way easier, having a gun around you makes you more likely to kill your family than an intruder, southern states with more lax gun control have higher homicide rates than even Illinois, New York, etc because they have more lax gun control, and CCW holders are just as likely to commit homicide by gun on another person than non, meaning despite alleged higher responsibility, they're actually equal or more prone to shooting other people.

Now shut up or GTFO.


Sounds like you have gunaphobia, get help
 
2013-01-30 11:04:29 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: mjones73: Ed Grubermann: Cybernetic: I see that Chicago's strict gun-control laws are working as well as ever.

And our thread's designated asshole makes himself known...

For stating the obvious?

In Fartbongo Bizarro World, yes.


Yes, it's Farbongo Bizarro because it doesn't agree with your view...we get it
 
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