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(Times Union)   New York governor wants to charge fee to plea bargain speeding tickets because traffic court judges are diverting too much state ticket revenue to their towns   ( divider line
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2013-01-30 11:24:50 AM  
4 votes:
Remember, traffic citations aren't for your safety - they're a tax, charged against the reckless, the inept, and the dangerous. In theory.

In practice, it's a crapshoot - the truly depressing part is that it's shiat like this that makes normal, honest, otherwise happy citizens fearful of the police. We understand that it's a crapshoot, and that no matter how good a driver you are, you may still get snagged by a cop looking to make his quota, or a cop who has flat-out made a mistake.

What's fun is that you'll now be punished if you protest. You will be fined if you contest a ticket. You will be fined if you don't contest a ticket. Basically, you will be fined if you're noticed - and that's why normal, honest, otherwise happy citizens fear the police. We don't want cops to notice us. We don't call you when a crime occurs, unless it's so heinous we can't deal with it ourselves, because cops often make a situation far worse by bringing it to their notice. We don't see you as a positive, protective presence, because you're just as likely to turn on us for no discernable reason, simply because you noticed us.

We gave you military weapons and tactics to protect us in extreme situations, You use them on no-knock warrants for a kid that might have pot. We gave you tools to protect us from terrorists. You use them on protestors and homless citizens. We try to restrain your capability to do inadvertent harm. You shoot us. We try to provide oversight. You circumvent it.

Is it any wonder we fear you? You do as much harm as those criminals you claim to protect us against, and there's even less recourse for us against you than there is against those criminals.
2013-01-30 11:06:22 AM  
3 votes:

New York governor wants to charge fee to plea bargain speeding tickets

Why should people be charged for what is basically due process?
2013-01-30 11:05:02 AM  
3 votes:
If it were about public safety, the money would go to charity and not be a budgeted source of income.
2013-01-30 10:38:50 AM  
2 votes:
How is this "saving lives"? Is the extra $80 supposed to be a discouragement to people who text and drive, or violate cell phone laws?

It won't. These people are already operating under the idea that "it won't happen to them." Not the ticket, not the accident, and not the vehicular manslaughter, so they certainly aren't worried about an extra charge.

Plus if they're able to afford to plea out, I'm guessing another $80 isn't hurting them. If it's not hurting, it's not discouraging. In the end, all that happens is the state gets more money.

But you already knew that.
2013-01-30 01:41:03 PM  
1 vote:
After he came up with that idea, he went home and banged this:

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2013-01-30 01:24:57 PM  
1 vote:

garandman1a: court created right to abortion

Much better than the court-created right to be obligated to follow someone else's religious bullshiat.
2013-01-30 11:32:09 AM  
1 vote:

ZAZ: The governor has two proposals: First, make sure you get points on your license

the insurance company who donated to the governor's campaign can jack up your rates for a ticky-tack offense

Fixed for you.

Cuomo is better than most but that's still a -NY after his name and you trust one of those at your peril.

This measure is a sop to New York City, where there's not as much highway-speed driving going on as there is upstate and on Lawn Guyland.

The trouble is that the state and local governments have gotten so addicted to using ticket revenue to paper over massive budget holes, there's no possible way to try all the cases that would go to court if this plan went through - in other words, the governor's flunky is full of shiat. There are plenty of spots in New York with artificially-low speed limits, where it's a piece of cake to get popped for going 20 over the limit.
2013-01-30 11:27:16 AM  
1 vote:
Cue all the cops saying that finding violations and writing tickets is not all about revenue...
2013-01-30 11:20:30 AM  
1 vote:
Because the only crime that really matters to governments is speeding.
Burglary, murder, actual real "Crime"is too much hard work and it's just not profitable enough.
2013-01-30 11:12:50 AM  
1 vote:
Amazing what subjects will put up with.
2013-01-30 11:12:02 AM  
1 vote:

stevejovi: I'd make fun of NY, but the sad truth is that every other state behaves like this, too. Some more than others, true....

No, they deserve to be mocked, just as every other state that adopts this bullshiat approach to revenue generation.
2013-01-30 11:05:33 AM  
1 vote:
As usual... NYS government (much like the local governments) don't have citizens, we're ATMs

Load of crap
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