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2013-01-30 10:01:54 AM  
10 votes:
OK, I read all that, and I am very happy for Microsoft and its strategic goals to do whatever it is that it is doing.

But, like 99.9999999% of Office users, I type memos, write letters, and maybe gin up the occasional form. I worry about creating bullets, indenting paragraphs, and formatting a title page. If I am having a really techy day, I might create a mail list or use the document markup to review a spec.

As near as I can tell, the main goal of Microsoft seems to be to make these things harder and more obscure.
2013-01-30 10:04:25 AM  
5 votes:

mr_a: OK, I read all that, and I am very happy for Microsoft and its strategic goals to do whatever it is that it is doing.

But, like 99.9999999% of Office users, I type memos, write letters, and maybe gin up the occasional form. I worry about creating bullets, indenting paragraphs, and formatting a title page. If I am having a really techy day, I might create a mail list or use the document markup to review a spec.

As near as I can tell, the main goal of Microsoft seems to be to make these things harder and more obscure.


This is why I switched to OpenOffice years ago

/also too cheap to pay $100 for a freaking word processor
2013-01-30 07:07:48 PM  
2 votes:
I find that Open Office is great when you want to predicate every document you send to someone with "Ok, so, I did this in Open Office so it may open funny on your system."
2013-01-30 10:56:15 AM  
2 votes:
I been using OpenOffice for a while. The ability to save docs as PDFs makes it worthwhile for me. Otherwise I use Celtx (also free) for screenplays.
2013-01-30 10:31:52 AM  
2 votes:

somedude210: mr_a: OK, I read all that, and I am very happy for Microsoft and its strategic goals to do whatever it is that it is doing.

But, like 99.9999999% of Office users, I type memos, write letters, and maybe gin up the occasional form. I worry about creating bullets, indenting paragraphs, and formatting a title page. If I am having a really techy day, I might create a mail list or use the document markup to review a spec.

As near as I can tell, the main goal of Microsoft seems to be to make these things harder and more obscure.

This is why I switched to OpenOffice years ago

/also too cheap to pay $100 for a freaking word processor


I've been using Office 2003 on my home desktop since it came out. That disc has been through three computers, and whenever I get around to getting some new hardware, it's going on that too.

Openoffice is fine for my laptop, but it doesn't have some of the more advanced Find features that Office has that make ebook formatting possible. If not for the 1% of the time when I need those, Openoffice and Office are interchangeable.
2013-01-30 10:15:36 AM  
2 votes:
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2013-02-01 01:19:57 AM  
1 votes:

BKITU: jonrey: Nuclear Monk: I suppose it's too much to hope that Excel 2013 would automatically create separate instances of Excel AND allow easy cut and paste between those two instances. (like Word)

According to What's new in Excel 2013, it does!

Holy dogshiat, FINALLY!


Sweet...I will look forward to using it in 5 years when my IT department finally gets around to upgrading it.
2013-01-30 04:38:03 PM  
1 votes:
I've been using Office since pretty much the beginning and I've always had it free from work so I'm used to it. Open Office is pretty bad-ass for opening corrupt word documents though.
2013-01-30 04:00:45 PM  
1 votes:
Openoffice/Google docs

As a guy who will touch about 1,000 multi-tabbed spreadsheets with links in a year and maybe a few hundred word docs.... hell no. I use google docs a lot for my personal shiat. Simple shiat. It's fine. Openoffice... just no. If I had to work with that tripe on a daily basis I'd get less than half as much done and wants to stab myself in the eye with a badger. I'm not in love with msft office, it's a tool. But there's nothing anywhere near it on the market today.
2013-01-30 02:43:20 PM  
1 votes:
Call me weird, but I find it much easier to make complex documents in Libre/Open office then in M$ Office. At work I use M$ Office 2010 and I use Libre at home. Libre for me is just easier to use. Unlike Office which hides a large bulk of its formatting tools, Libre uses the tried and true menus and toolbars method (the ribbon was a bad idea and they should feel bad). However, there is a set back: Documents made in one look like shiat in the other. I could have a beautiful document made in Libre and then open it up in Office and now it looks like I gave my 5 year old nephew the keyboard and asked him to format it for me. This goes both ways and I just don't understand it.
2013-01-30 02:34:03 PM  
1 votes:
<I>Microsoft's hope is that subscription pricing will create a predictable, fixed sales stream it can count on every year.</i>

From CNN, and it's dead on. It has nothing to do with the user, it has to do with the shareholders wanting reliable revenue instead of huge bursts every few years.
2013-01-30 02:29:37 PM  
1 votes:
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2013-01-30 01:07:13 PM  
1 votes:
What I really want is an Excel (and other Office apps) that has the collaboration features of Google Docs. Having 50 people simultaneously edit a single spreadsheet is pure badass.
2013-01-30 01:01:42 PM  
1 votes:
I hate that Outlook won't let me embed animated gif images in my e-mails.
2013-01-30 12:58:16 PM  
1 votes:
I suppose it's too much to hope that Excel 2013 would automatically create separate instances of Excel AND allow easy cut and paste between those two instances. (like Word)
2013-01-30 12:48:16 PM  
1 votes:
I'm hoping the next OS X release of Office will make Excel more usable. It's pretty annoying that if I filter rows, the more rows I hide the slower the damn thing scrolls. They realllly need to fix that.
2013-01-30 12:47:24 PM  
1 votes:

xynix: With that said I rarely use anything in office. I don't give powerpoint presentations anymore because I hated that as a customer and it's a boring way to deliver information. Instead I use a whiteboard and talk about the customer and their environment. As Steve Jobs once said, "People who know what they're talking about don't need PowerPoint."


Only applies in certain fields. Sorry but if you are going to give a scientific or technical talk of any kind have fun trying to "chalk and talk" when you need to present actual data coherently.
2013-01-30 12:46:39 PM  
1 votes:
You know, if you just listened to Fark threads you would think companies should never ever ever ever release new versions of anything or change their products in anyway. But only after some arbitrary point that subby happens to like.
2013-01-30 12:41:04 PM  
1 votes:
Most folks forget the training aspect. Microsoft has thousands of partners that offer official MS training courses, and the new versions fuel this business.

We pay on average about $500/day for official MS training, and we're an underfunded university. Large corporations typically spend a *lot* of money on training.
2013-01-30 11:53:11 AM  
1 votes:

DanZero: Ca$hgrab?


That's exactly it. One more way for them to suck money out of your wallet.

/LibreOffice FTW
2013-01-30 11:49:56 AM  
1 votes:

ThatGuyGreg: Office 2013 > Office 2010 in a good number of ways. If you can get by with the free stuff, great, but I can't.

Then again, I seem to be one of the very few I work with that actually tries to make their docs & presentations not look like regurgitated dog shiat.


So you can't be bothered to tell us what is in 2013 that makes it better?
2013-01-30 11:28:20 AM  
1 votes:
An excuse to get you to buy your office suite all over again?

/DNRTFA
2013-01-30 11:01:32 AM  
1 votes:
Office 2013 > Office 2010 in a good number of ways. If you can get by with the free stuff, great, but I can't.

Then again, I seem to be one of the very few I work with that actually tries to make their docs & presentations not look like regurgitated dog shiat.
2013-01-30 10:54:45 AM  
1 votes:
I get office for $10 for at home use because of my companies enterprise license. If you want office for the cheap then see if your company has that type of license. A lot of them are moving in that direction since so many people work from home or are trending in that direction.

With that said I rarely use anything in office. I don't give powerpoint presentations anymore because I hated that as a customer and it's a boring way to deliver information. Instead I use a whiteboard and talk about the customer and their environment. As Steve Jobs once said, "People who know what they're talking about don't need PowerPoint."

mr_a: As near as I can tell, the main goal of Microsoft seems to be to make these things harder and more obscure.


Also this. Took me forever to figure out how to sort in excel again and for the life of me and I can no longer find the farking outline toolbar.
2013-01-30 10:21:12 AM  
1 votes:
Ca$hgrab?
 
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