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(Toronto Star)   You know when she asks you to help tidy up around the house? IT'S A TRAP   (thestar.com ) divider line
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2013-01-30 11:16:44 AM  
FTFA: It also found that couples overall reported about five sexual encounters a month.

My god married people average 5 times a month?! They must be gods. I'd be lucky if I broke the 3 mark.
 
2013-01-30 11:54:47 AM  
NAKED APRON
 
2013-01-30 11:54:51 AM  
FTA: It found that couples spend an average of 34 hours a week on so-called "female" chores and 17 hours on more traditional male tasks.

Couples average over 50 hours a week on chores??

Are they doing it wrong or am I just a lazy sloth?

/probably the latter
 
2013-01-30 11:56:24 AM  
Many things in this study seem inaccurate and unrealistic.
 
2013-01-30 11:56:44 AM  
BS article is BS
 
2013-01-30 11:56:48 AM  
well, that pretty much defeats the entire purpose of doing all those damn chores.
 
2013-01-30 11:57:26 AM  
I would never ask my wife to do my job.

And I take umbrage when she asks me to do hers.
 
2013-01-30 11:57:32 AM  

miss diminutive: FTA: It found that couples spend an average of 34 hours a week on so-called "female" chores and 17 hours on more traditional male tasks.

Couples average over 50 hours a week on chores??

Are they doing it wrong or am I just a lazy sloth?

/probably the latter


Well, I'd still marry you. >.>
 
2013-01-30 11:57:38 AM  
People who embrace their gender tend to appreciate the opposite gender.

Oh, I'll change your oil. Frequently.
 
2013-01-30 11:57:38 AM  
Women treated like lesser beings by their significant others have to submit sexually as well.....who'd of thunk.
 
2013-01-30 11:58:16 AM  
It sounds about right that married couples have sex five times a month on average. That's about what I had when I was married. It started stronger and then slowly dwindled. After seven years, divorce.

Now I've been with my girlfriend for two years and we average about 20 times a month. I have no plans to marry her. ;)

/csb
 
2013-01-30 11:58:23 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I would never ask my wife to do my job.

And I take umbrage when she asks me to do hers.


CHARLES, QUIT GETTING ANGRY! I'M RUNNING OUT OF UMBRE!

/obscure
 
2013-01-30 11:59:02 AM  

Citrate1007: Women treated like lesser beings by their significant others have to submit sexually as well.....who'd of thunk.


There's also the other side that men who are passive and submissive to their wives tend to not get sex since it is held back as leverage against them.

The two different scenarios combine to create the statistic in TFA
 
2013-01-30 12:00:23 PM  

miss diminutive: FTA: It found that couples spend an average of 34 hours a week on so-called "female" chores and 17 hours on more traditional male tasks.

Couples average over 50 hours a week on chores??

Are they doing it wrong or am I just a lazy sloth?

/probably the latter


Add child rearing into the mix, and work around the house approaches 4 or 5 hours a day. That brings the average way up.
 
2013-01-30 12:00:46 PM  
Weird, my SO is more likely to get some after he's helped out with the sink full of dishes that he mostly created.
 
2013-01-30 12:01:10 PM  
My experience does not reflect in this study.

I help quite a bit with housework. Except laundry because my wife doesn't like the way I do it. But I help cook, clean, sweep, mop, etc, etc. And I cannot keep up with my wife in terms of sexual frequency; she wants it way more often than I.
 
2013-01-30 12:02:34 PM  

strangeguitar: BS article is BS


Old data is old.
 
GBB
2013-01-30 12:03:02 PM  
Correlation does not equal copulation.
 
2013-01-30 12:04:46 PM  
How does this work for the guys on Fark who live with their mom?
 
2013-01-30 12:06:34 PM  

TNel: FTFA: It also found that couples overall reported about five sexual encounters a month.

My god married people average 5 times a month?! They must be gods. I'd be lucky if I broke the 3 mark.


Next they'll claim blowjobs after marriage are real and then I'll know they're making up stuff.
 
2013-01-30 12:06:56 PM  
almost one less sexual encounter a month

Oh, the horror.
 
2013-01-30 12:09:01 PM  
FTA It also found that couples overall reported about five sexual encounters a month.

Do they mean married couples with kids?

I do all the cooking & shopping, most of the cleaning, and all the outdoorsy 'man' chores. Been married for years, still getting some 3-4 times a week.

No kids though.
 
2013-01-30 12:10:13 PM  
miss diminutive: "Couples average over 50 hours a week on chores??"

When they're answering a survey? You bet your ass (they say) they do.

Not to mention those people who do (or claim to) divide labor to satisfy traditional gender-role expectations are also to be *expected* to also tailor their reported sexual frequency to conform to those same gender-norm expectations.
 
2013-01-30 12:11:27 PM  
Sure, I'll do the chores, Peg.
idannyb.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-30 12:12:18 PM  
In my experience, married men who do "traditionally female" housework are doing it simply because their wives won't, not out of some sense of duty or equality; it would seem reasonable to me that there would be less resentment between couples where both partners view the other as "pulling his/her weight", which would encourage more sexytime.

//Not saying it's right or wrong, just an observation...
 
2013-01-30 12:13:03 PM  
So, conservative roles lead to more sex.

This "science" article brought to you today by the Heritage Foundation.
 
2013-01-30 12:13:28 PM  

miss diminutive: FTA: It found that couples spend an average of 34 hours a week on so-called "female" chores and 17 hours on more traditional male tasks.

Couples average over 50 hours a week on chores??

Are they doing it wrong or am I just a lazy sloth?

/probably the latter


Let's do the math (no one said there wouldn't be any):

Shopping: 120 minutes
Cooking: 210 minutes*
Cleaning: 360 minutes
Laundry: 30 minutes**
------------
Total: 720 minutes/week

So just 12 hours. I really wouldn't know how to get to 17. Let alone 34. I guess "those people" clean everything daily, as if most items get dirty that fast.

Probably helps that I live alone and don't have kids.

*includes doing the dishes of the previous day and cleaning the tuff I used but don't need anymore.
**based on 2 loads, includes folding. Ironing is for morons (does not count if you iron your work clothes).
 
2013-01-30 12:14:54 PM  

Monster Island: FTA It also found that couples overall reported about five sexual encounters a month.

Do they mean married couples with kids?

I do all the cooking & shopping, most of the cleaning, and all the outdoorsy 'man' chores. Been married for years, still getting some 3-4 times a week.

No kids though.


I do all the cooking, cleaning, watching the kids and the manly stuff too. I'd say about 5 times a month is right.
 
2013-01-30 12:16:06 PM  
#12 FTW. I'm not even 30 and I can't stand being in that dimly lit hellhole.
 
2013-01-30 12:20:21 PM  
www.thestar.com

I feel bad that this dude, who is working as a custodian at a conference center, is now the face of "gets less sex because he vacuums." (I feel less bad that this is somehow Lieberman's fault.)

Seriously, it's not like Getty doesn't have a few thousand stock photos of guys doing housework they could use. This guy's just doing his job. He doesn't need this shiat.
 
2013-01-30 12:21:06 PM  
Also, he's using a ShopVac, not a wussy Dyson.
 
2013-01-30 12:21:17 PM  

Citrate1007: Women treated like lesser beings by their significant others have to submit sexually as well.....who'd of thunk.


notsureifserious.jpg

//"Who'd of"? Really?
 
2013-01-30 12:22:23 PM  

Loaf's Tray: In my experience, married men who do "traditionally female" housework are doing it simply because their wives won't, not out of some sense of duty or equality;


Sounds about right.  I love my wife, but if I left her in charge of the cleaning, it would happen once a month.  Maybe.  Her apartment before we married?  *shudder*
 
2013-01-30 12:23:36 PM  

Citrate1007: Women treated like lesser beings by their significant others have to submit sexually as well.....who'd of thunk.


no. what happens is in my experince the opposite. At the beginning of the marriage chores get divied up and then at some point the following conversation happens.

husband (typically) - we don't have sex as often as we used to and I don't like it.

wife (typically) - well I'm always so tired from housework\kids\RandomExcuseGoesHere that I just want to go to sleep at night.

husband (in his head) - that's funny, because before we got married you went to work, we'd go out or stay up late and you'd still have tons of energy. I don't get a nap in the middle of the day but somehow I have energy...

wife (while husband is thinking) - if you helped with the kids more and did the dishes I'd have more energy....

husband - OK.

Next week husband goes all out, handles work and kids and chores and sees no change in thier sex life. What is does see is his wife spending more talking on the phone, doing her nails, reading, etc Husband gets pissed. sex drops off even more, husband gets more pissed and says "screw this" to the extra work.

Every husband I know has gotten the "well if you help me more with the stuff I aggreed to do but don't like doing, we'd have more\better sex" routine. I don't know of a single couple that ended up having more sex as a result of the husband doing more of the work. I do know of a lot of husbands that feel like they were lied to.
 
2013-01-30 12:25:10 PM  
correlation≠causation

This seems obvious: quit helping with the house chores ≠ more sex

Here's a more convincing conclusion from this data:
Men who, for what ever reason, are allowed to relax while their wives cook, clean, and raise the children are also able to have sex with them more often.

Seems reasonable.
Maybe she's indoctrinated by some conservative value system.
Maybe she's in thrall to him for some charisma related reason.
Maybe she's not doing the chores either, and they live rutting in horrid squalor.
 
2013-01-30 12:25:36 PM  
FTA: One of the study's drawbacks is its reliance on data that is now two decades old.

Yeah, that's a pretty big drawback.
 
2013-01-30 12:29:47 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Weird, my SO is more likely to get some after he's helped out with the sink full of dishes that he mostly created.


Honey, is that you?

/told you I'd do them after the game.
 
2013-01-30 12:32:42 PM  

TNel: FTFA: It also found that couples overall reported about five sexual encounters a month.

My god married people average 5 times a month?! They must be gods. I'd be lucky if I broke the 3 mark.


Married 9 years, and about 4-6 times a week, and that is on top of the 2-3 times a week with my girlfriend. Ya'll doing something wrong if it's 5 times a month..
 
2013-01-30 12:36:34 PM  
Maybe I should sit down when I pee too!

/if you do anything, fail at it, you won't have to do it again, just hear about it
//no escape from that either way
 
2013-01-30 12:38:13 PM  

Jclark666: [www.thestar.com image 545x365]

I feel bad that this dude, who is working as a custodian at a conference center, is now the face of "gets less sex because he vacuums."


If the vacuum is a Gypsy Mutant, it might get more sex than he does.

www.united-mutations.com

/obscure?
 
2013-01-30 12:38:21 PM  
I'm somewhat appalled at the dismal snoo-snoo statistics that people are happy to share with the rest of Fark.

/26 years old
//Is apparently part rabbit
 
2013-01-30 12:42:29 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I would never ask my wife to do my job.

And I take umbrage when she asks me to do hers.


I hope you didn't marry an AverageAmericanGirl
 
2013-01-30 12:44:23 PM  

I drunk what: AverageAmericanGuy: I would never ask my wife to do my job.

And I take umbrage when she asks me to do hers.

I hope you didn't marry an AverageAmericanGirl


I didn't! Mail order bride, all the way.

And a 2 year warranty if anything breaks.
 
2013-01-30 12:45:02 PM  
OK. Fark Challenge. California style.

Lead in: Add 4 kids. 9 to 20 in age. I am not their father, but the other three are. I'm the resident boyfriend and an old high school crush from the 1980s.

Situation Their mother and grandmother will be on a flight for an Army graduation from San Francisco to Atlanta in 3 hours They will be there 5 days.

Potential issues: Weather en-route looks ugly over Georgia. Angry Portugese GF and mother are like fire and gasoline if they spend more then 3 hours in confined spaces together. Or my farking living room. Then it goes down to 15 minutes. Plane lands at 9pm at ATL.

The challenge: What's the chances of this farker trying to tidy up anything before midnight ET tonight versus having quiet house and a fire in the woodstove burning? Fark: what's the over/under on two people mid-flight and I get a call that one of them got kicked off the plane in Dallas?

The prize? Two one month TF sponsorships if I don't get word that the flight got noisy not because of weather, but those two won't shut the fark up. They will live. I just worry about the other people on THAT plane.

GO!

/today is not one of those entirely snarky days. It's real.
//not sure I have bail or return flight money
///can I use kickstarter for that?
////Mother of God slashies, safe trip please,
 
2013-01-30 12:49:09 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I drunk what: AverageAmericanGuy: I would never ask my wife to do my job.

And I take umbrage when she asks me to do hers.

I hope you didn't marry an AverageAmericanGirl

I didn't! Mail order bride, all the way.

And a 2 year warranty if anything breaks.


THIS
 
2013-01-30 12:51:32 PM  

Farce-Side: strangeguitar: BS article is BS

Old data is old.


Yep.

FTA: "One of the study's drawbacks is its reliance on data that is now two decades old."

Read, people.
Then f*ck.
 
2013-01-30 12:53:29 PM  

miss diminutive: FTA: It found that couples spend an average of 34 hours a week on so-called "female" chores and 17 hours on more traditional male tasks.

Couples average over 50 hours a week on chores??

Are they doing it wrong or am I just a lazy sloth?

/probably the latter


They probably included complaining about things.

I could swear there was an article just last week that was the exact opposite of this.
 
2013-01-30 12:54:00 PM  

weaklingrecords: FTA: One of the study's drawbacks is its reliance on data that is now two decades old.

Yeah, that's a pretty big drawback.


No kidding...

That's like making assumptions about 70's couples by using "Leave it to Beaver."
 
2013-01-30 12:59:45 PM  
The wife and I generally split the housework, and neither of us have any problem with covering errands if the other person can't make it on a particular day or time.  Works just fine for us.

Personally though, I don't mind doing things around the house.  Hell, when she's out of town on business trips, I usually spend the time cleaning the house and consolidating the file cabinets and such.  I know what she gets at the grocery store each week, so I'll tackle that before she gets back too.

/no, I'm not kidding either
 
2013-01-30 01:04:19 PM  
Because she so tired from house work to fight you off.
 
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