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(Christian Science Monitor)   Egypt's Arab Spring experiencing the equivalent of tornado season   (csmonitor.com) divider line 9
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2013-01-30 03:31:45 PM  
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The Irresponsible Captain: They're still sorting it out over there. I'm glad the opposition is remaining persistent, it means there's still hope.


the best we can hope for is that they get it right this time. probably their last chance...
2013-01-30 12:26:22 PM  
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2013-01-30 11:32:58 AM  
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Did anyone else find this quote telling:

As it has slowly risen to power in the past two years, the Muslim Brotherhood has broken many promises about the role it would play in representative government. Its flip-flops and power grabs in forming a new regime have only added to a worry among democracy advocates that Mr. Morsi would define his authority from Islam, or sharia law, rather than from constitutional rights and secular pluralism. ... an old guard sticks to al-sama' wa'l-ta'a, or "hearing and obeying."

The Arab spring to "freedom" has brought about a winter of distrust.

The problem with Democracy is that it is literally Demo (mob) - cracy (rule). If a large enough sector of the mob is militant, organized, and unwilling to compromise, they can take over a whole country. Religious and nationalistic zealots often get people to fall in line or into a grave, as did democratically elected Hitler.

Democracy =/= greater freedom in the jungle ... Democracy = two wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat
2013-01-30 11:15:07 AM  
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cgraves67: tolallorti: Who wasn't expecting unrest? Revolutions tend to lead to more revolution until everyone collectively gets tired of that shiat. Like, it's like lays potato chips, you can't have just one.

Yeah, I don't know who didn't see this coming. It has all the hallmarks of going into a Reign of Terror ala France.


Countries suddenly lurching into democracy really only work if they were formerly British colonies.
2013-01-30 11:11:57 AM  
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tolallorti: Who wasn't expecting unrest? Revolutions tend to lead to more revolution until everyone collectively gets tired of that shiat. Like, it's like lays potato chips, you can't have just one.


Yeah, I don't know who didn't see this coming. It has all the hallmarks of going into a Reign of Terror ala France.
2013-01-30 11:10:20 AM  
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Donnchadha: [www.tvovermind.com image 630x389]

Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!


And a hard-boiled egg.
2013-01-30 11:08:39 AM  
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The Mideast needs leaders like Saddam, Assad, Qaddafi, and Mubarak. Left to their own devices, the people in that area seem to have a tendency towards religious zealotry and fundamentalism, and that's not what it takes to succeed in a growingly secular Western world. As the Far East, the Indian sub-continent, Europe, and North America (excluding Mexico) become more secular and more technologically and educationally advanced, the Mideast stagnates under the constant threat of fundamentalist violence.

They are isolating themselves, and that is in large part due to the lack of strong leadership. Leadership that America has taken a leading role in eliminating. So when Egypt falls into sectarian violence, or Iraq's religious zealots attack the government, or Syria's fundamentalist enclaves riot against the secular government, much of the blood is on our hands.

As distasteful as it may be, violent strongmen willing to pay lip service to religion and interested in secularism are what we should promote, even if it means the occasional crushing of opposition. The opposition is almost always worse.
2013-01-30 11:02:04 AM  
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Donnchadha: Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!


Damn you! I saw the movie last week and had just got that earworm out of my head, you asshole.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 09:49:18 AM  
1 votes:
Reinstate military dictatorship at the national level and let citizens work out democracy in local governments until they have more practice.
 
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