Do you have adblock enabled?
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(UPI)   FBI raids office of South Florida doctor who allegedly provided prostitutes to Sen. Robert Menendez (D'oh, NJ). Meanwhile, your doctor charges you $500 for a three-minute visit in the exam room   (upi.com) divider line 52
    More: Followup, Robert Menendez, South Florida, FBI, Miami Herald  
•       •       •

797 clicks; posted to Politics » on 30 Jan 2013 at 9:16 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



52 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-01-30 08:21:34 AM  
Meh, he's a Democrat.  It's not like anyone expects them to have any morals.
 
2013-01-30 08:48:56 AM  
Fellacious allegations.
 
2013-01-30 09:20:52 AM  
$25 co-pay, actually.
 
2013-01-30 09:21:36 AM  

BillCo: Meh, he's a Democrat.  It's not like anyone expects them to have any morals.


Did he run on any kind of morality basis? Did he run on family values?

If not, then imho the prostitution thing isn't a big deal, morally. It's illegality means he should be busted like any lawbreaker. Also the issue of someone expecting political favors for providing anything is enough of a scandal.

/You know, unless he's a lobbyist or a PAC and then it's FREE SPEECH!!!!
 
2013-01-30 09:25:17 AM  

timswar: BillCo: Meh, he's a Democrat.  It's not like anyone expects them to have any morals.

Did he run on any kind of morality basis? Did he run on family values?

If not, then imho the prostitution thing isn't a big deal, morally. It's illegality means he should be busted like any lawbreaker. Also the issue of someone expecting political favors for providing anything is enough of a scandal.

/You know, unless he's a lobbyist or a PAC and then it's FREE SPEECH!!!!


You do know it is illegal for americans to hire under age prostitutes even if the country they are in allows it... right?
 
2013-01-30 09:33:22 AM  

MyRandomName: timswar: BillCo: Meh, he's a Democrat.  It's not like anyone expects them to have any morals.

Did he run on any kind of morality basis? Did he run on family values?

If not, then imho the prostitution thing isn't a big deal, morally. It's illegality means he should be busted like any lawbreaker. Also the issue of someone expecting political favors for providing anything is enough of a scandal.

/You know, unless he's a lobbyist or a PAC and then it's FREE SPEECH!!!!

You do know it is illegal for americans to hire under age prostitutes even if the country they are in allows it... right?


Do you even read peoples comments before responding? " It's illegality means he should be busted like any lawbreaker."
 
2013-01-30 09:33:43 AM  
Meanwhile, your doctor charges you $500 for a three-minute visit in the exam room

Yeah, but you can get your balls cupped AND a finger up your ass.

Not saying it's a good deal...maybe you have a fetish that involves paying too much and getting fondled.
 
2013-01-30 09:38:53 AM  
At least they were female prostitutes.
 
2013-01-30 09:45:47 AM  
Were those prescription-strength hookers? Because those over-the-counter hookers hardly do anything.
 
2013-01-30 09:48:10 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Meanwhile, your doctor charges you $500 for a three-minute visit in the exam room

Yeah, but you can get your balls cupped AND a finger up your ass.

Not saying it's a good deal...maybe you have a fetish that involves paying too much and getting fondled.


So this would serve as a reminder to all married guys that Valentine's Day is coming up.
 
2013-01-30 09:50:00 AM  
FTA: "The Daily Caller, a conservative news website, reported just before last year's election Menendez, who is divorced, had had sex with two prostitutes at a resort in the Dominican Republic. The story included interviews with two women who said they were prostitutes."

Great reporting. I had sex with your grandma. Just interview any grandma to confirm that.
 
2013-01-30 09:51:40 AM  
South Florida doctors, eh? Did they also sell him some steroids?
 
2013-01-30 09:54:46 AM  

timswar: BillCo: Meh, he's a Democrat. It's not like anyone expects them to have any morals.

Did he run on any kind of morality basis? Did he run on family values?

If not, then imho the prostitution thing isn't a big deal, morally.


yeah, there is nothing immoral about breaking the law.

moran.
 
2013-01-30 09:56:28 AM  
Democrats don't typically campaign on family values and how morally superior they are to you and I, so when they do something morally corrupt, it's not as big of a deal as when a Republican, who lectures us about the sanctity of marriage and flaunts their superior morals, does it. But to the Right, it's all "media bias" and "we're oppressed!".
 
2013-01-30 09:56:31 AM  

skygod: MyRandomName: timswar: BillCo: Meh, he's a Democrat.  It's not like anyone expects them to have any morals.

Did he run on any kind of morality basis? Did he run on family values?

If not, then imho the prostitution thing isn't a big deal, morally. It's illegality means he should be busted like any lawbreaker. Also the issue of someone expecting political favors for providing anything is enough of a scandal.

/You know, unless he's a lobbyist or a PAC and then it's FREE SPEECH!!!!

You do know it is illegal for americans to hire under age prostitutes even if the country they are in allows it... right?

Do you even read peoples comments before responding? " It's illegality means he should be busted like any lawbreaker."


He apparently didn't even read the headline. Let alone the article. Let alone the comment he was responding to.

Underage? Yeah, I know that's illegal... but it's not what was happening here. Just regular run of the mill prostitutes.

But he's gonna try and make this worse. Because that would be the honest thing to do.
 
2013-01-30 10:02:29 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: timswar: BillCo: Meh, he's a Democrat. It's not like anyone expects them to have any morals.

Did he run on any kind of morality basis? Did he run on family values?

If not, then imho the prostitution thing isn't a big deal, morally.

yeah, there is nothing immoral about breaking the law.

moran.


You're right, breaking the law is not immoral...good job!
 
2013-01-30 10:04:43 AM  
If he broke the law, and there is ample evidence to convict, he should be tried and, if found guilty, punished and removed from office.

That's about all I have to say about this story until more concrete evidence is made public.
 
2013-01-30 10:04:43 AM  

Pascal's Bookie: tenpoundsofcheese: timswar: BillCo: Meh, he's a Democrat. It's not like anyone expects them to have any morals.

Did he run on any kind of morality basis? Did he run on family values?

If not, then imho the prostitution thing isn't a big deal, morally.

yeah, there is nothing immoral about breaking the law.

moran.

You're right, breaking the law is not immoral...good job!


Do you are saying that breaking the law is a moral thing to do.  Interesting viewpoint you have.
 
2013-01-30 10:11:47 AM  
Meanwhile, your doctor charges you $500 for a three-minute visit in the exam room

No he doesn't. I have health insurance.
Heh, actually, they didn't even charge me my co-pay last week.
 
2013-01-30 10:13:59 AM  
FBI raids office of South Florida doctor who allegedly provided prostitutes to Sen. Robert Menendez (D'oh, NJ).

I, for one, welcome this new aspect of the health-care industry brought to us by the democrats and Obamacare.
 
2013-01-30 10:14:33 AM  
Last time I went to the doctor, I had to pay $100 for a prostate exam.

I still don't understand how the doctor was able to give me the exam while he had both hands on my shoulders.
 
2013-01-30 10:15:30 AM  
Look, if you are responding to BillCo or 10lbsofcheese in such a way that I am forced to take their side, you are ON THE WRONG PATH.

Jesus, guys! Taking advantage of 16 year old girls is a legal issue and a moral issue. The mans in his 50s, it's revolting, and he shouldn't be elected dog catcher at this point. This isn't a Democrat/Republican issue, its a set this guy on fire if he's guilty issue.
 
2013-01-30 10:18:28 AM  
Okay, before you all get into this, I would encourage you to read the original source of the info rather than an account from somewhere like the Daily Caller. I feel like they could have a bigger agenda than "exposing government corruption". Especially since it involves a very powerful Democrat, and one in a position to help broker an immigration reform deal.

As for Bob, if he slept with underage prostitutes, then he ought to be arrested, if not lose his job. I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem finding another competent Dem to fill that seat (Cory Booker?), so there may not be many other reasons for him to stay in the face of scandal, except the immigration thing I mentioned earlier.
 
2013-01-30 10:18:50 AM  

DoomPaul: Last time I went to the doctor, I had to pay $100 for a prostate exam.

I still don't understand how the doctor was able to give me the exam while he had both hands on my shoulders.


Afterwards, did you get the traditional Dinner and a Movie, or just the Dozen Roses?
 
2013-01-30 10:25:03 AM  

Mexican Jew Lizard: Okay, before you all get into this, I would encourage you to read the original source of the info rather than an account from somewhere like the Daily Caller. I feel like they could have a bigger agenda than "exposing government corruption". Especially since it involves a very powerful Democrat, and one in a position to help broker an immigration reform deal.

As for Bob, if he slept with underage prostitutes, then he ought to be arrested, if not lose his job. I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem finding another competent Dem to fill that seat (Cory Booker?), so there may not be many other reasons for him to stay in the face of scandal, except the immigration thing I mentioned earlier.


What are the rules in NJ regarding replacing resigned senators? Christie would presumably appoint a rep, if that's how it works there.
 
2013-01-30 10:25:22 AM  

keylock71: If he broke the law, and there is ample evidence to convict, he should be tried and, if found guilty, punished and removed from office.

That's about all I have to say about this story until more concrete evidence is made public.


Yes, but, but HE'S A DEM! SO ALL DEMS DO THIS! BOTH SIDES ARE BAD!

/The shills will say with no self awareness.
 
2013-01-30 10:26:23 AM  

Mexican Jew Lizard: Okay, before you all get into this, I would encourage you to read the original source of the info rather than an account from somewhere like the Daily Caller. I feel like they could have a bigger agenda than "exposing government corruption". Especially since it involves a very powerful Democrat, and one in a position to help broker an immigration reform deal.

As for Bob, if he slept with underage prostitutes, then he ought to be arrested, if not lose his job. I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem finding another competent Dem to fill that seat (Cory Booker?), so there may not be many other reasons for him to stay in the face of scandal, except the immigration thing I mentioned earlier.


Some random asshole's blog. The joke. I get it.
 
2013-01-30 10:28:18 AM  

whandall: Look, if you are responding to BillCo or 10lbsofcheese in such a way that I am forced to take their side, you are ON THE WRONG PATH.


Welcome to the dark side.
 
2013-01-30 10:28:29 AM  

Mexican Jew Lizard: Okay, before you all get into this, I would encourage you to read the original source of the info rather than an account from somewhere like the Daily Caller. I feel like they could have a bigger agenda than "exposing government corruption". Especially since it involves a very powerful Democrat, and one in a position to help broker an immigration reform deal.

As for Bob, if he slept with underage prostitutes, then he ought to be arrested, if not lose his job. I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem finding another competent Dem to fill that seat (Cory Booker?), so there may not be many other reasons for him to stay in the face of scandal, except the immigration thing I mentioned earlier.


Well put. About 100x clearer than I did. Guess I was too busy getting grossed out by the mental image of Bob getting it on.
 
2013-01-30 10:29:00 AM  

keylock71: If he broke the law, and there is ample evidence to convict, he should be tried and, if found guilty, punished and removed from office.

That's about all I have to say about this story until more concrete evidence is made public.


I'm trying to remember the last time I read a comment similar to this from a conservative leaning person about a conservative leaning politician in a similar situation. I'm coming up empty.
 
2013-01-30 10:34:02 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: What are the rules in NJ regarding replacing resigned senators?


Biggest bribe gets the seat.
 
2013-01-30 10:36:13 AM  
The Reagan Administration had a male prostitution ring being run out of the White House.
 
2013-01-30 10:36:59 AM  

Jake Havechek: The Reagan Administration had a male prostitution ring being run out of the White House.


Allegedly that ring even included male children.
 
2013-01-30 10:43:52 AM  

lennavan: keylock71: If he broke the law, and there is ample evidence to convict, he should be tried and, if found guilty, punished and removed from office.

That's about all I have to say about this story until more concrete evidence is made public.

I'm trying to remember the last time I read a comment similar to this from a conservative leaning person about a conservative leaning politician in a similar situation. I'm coming up empty.


I assume they exist... Though, I'm not nearly as confident about that after the last few years of unhinged GOP nonsense. I'm an unenrolled voter, so I'm not tied to either major party (though, the last few years, I've voted for far more democrats as they've taken over the center of the political spectrum as the GOP has gone off the deep end into right-wing yahoo land).
 
2013-01-30 10:49:09 AM  

Jake Havechek: The Reagan Administration had a male prostitution ring being run out of the White House.


I think you're confusing the White House with Barney Frank's house.
 
2013-01-30 10:50:43 AM  
$500? Seriously? In Belgium we also use insurance (there is no public health service) and most doctors charge less than €50 ($68).
 
2013-01-30 10:54:34 AM  

TheDumbBlonde: Jake Havechek: The Reagan Administration had a male prostitution ring being run out of the White House.

I think you're confusing the White House with Barney Frank's house.


HAR, the joke being Barney Frank's GAY and being GAY means he has sex with male prostitutes, because being GAY is ICKY! HAR!

Now the real info. Link. It was actually alleged to have involved Lawrence King, who ran Franklin Credit Union in Omaha, NE and was a rising star in the GOP. He got busted for embezzlement, I believe, but the prostitution charges were dismissed. My mother in law swears up and down that King ran a hooker racket that included children. Her ex-husband was King's limo driver for a time. But my MIL believes angels appear to her from time to time, so I take much of her ramblings with a truckload of salt.
 
2013-01-30 10:57:12 AM  

TheDumbBlonde: I think you're confusing the White House with Barney Frank's house.


img368.imageshack.us
 
2013-01-30 11:01:56 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo:
What are the rules in NJ regarding replacing resigned senators? Christie would presumably appoint a rep, if that's how it works there.


According to the law:

19:3-26 Vacancies in United States senate; election to fill; temporary appointment by governor.

19:3-26. If a vacancy shall happen in the representation of this State in the United States senate, it shall be filled at the general election next succeeding the happening thereof, unless such vacancy shall happen within 70 days next preceding such election, in which case it shall be filled by election at the second succeeding general election, unless the governor of this State shall deem it advisable to call a special election therefor, which he is authorized hereby to do.

The governor of this State may make a temporary appointment of a senator of the United States from this State whenever a vacancy shall occur by reason of any cause other than the expiration of the term; and such appointee shall serve as such senator until a special election or general election shall have been held pursuant to law and the Board of State Canvassers can deliver to his successor a certificate of election.

amended 2011, c.37, s.37.

Christie could appoint someone if he so chose until the next election (2018?), or he could call a special election for the seat. The governor could do either; I think Christie could go either way given he's not the most partisan Republican out there.
 
2013-01-30 11:02:41 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: TheDumbBlonde: I think you're confusing the White House with Barney Frank's house.

[img368.imageshack.us image 850x510]


That entire article was obviously photoshopped.

/ Also: "see PROBE, page A7" lulz
 
2013-01-30 11:02:46 AM  

So, just to put things in perspective:

Senator David Vitter (R-LA) - busted for frequenting prostitutes (and having weird fetishes) despite being married and flogging a family values platform. Never charged, won reelection as senator

Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) - see headline
Menendez should tell everyone to fark off so long as Vitter is still in good standing.
 
2013-01-30 11:10:41 AM  

keylock71: If he broke the law, and there is ample evidence to convict, he should be tried and, if found guilty, punished and removed from office.

That's about all I have to say about this story until more concrete evidence is made public.


I feel like this ought to be a standard attitude to have about any scandal like this, regardless of party or politician. Isn't one of the tenets of the U.S. legal system "presumption of innocence"? This is probably going to come across as naive, but political discussions involve jumping to conclusions so often it makes it hard to find common ground. Just look at any Fark Politics Thread for examples.

Basically: come on guys. Seriously.
 
2013-01-30 11:23:11 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: So, just to put things in perspective: Senator David Vitter (R-LA) - busted for frequenting prostitutes (and having weird fetishes) despite being married and flogging a family values platform. Never charged, won reelection as senator

Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) - see headlineMenendez should tell everyone to fark off so long as Vitter is still in good standing.


This is true, diaper-boy Vitter is still loved by the Tea Party.
 
2013-01-30 11:30:25 AM  

verbaltoxin: keylock71: If he broke the law, and there is ample evidence to convict, he should be tried and, if found guilty, punished and removed from office.

That's about all I have to say about this story until more concrete evidence is made public.

Yes, but, but HE'S A DEM! SO ALL DEMS DO THIS! BOTH SIDES ARE BAD!


/The shills will say with no self awareness.


The irony of your statement eludes you, doesn't it?
 
2013-01-30 12:08:43 PM  
But, given that huge chunks of the right wing establishment suggested people were racist for voting for Obama, doesn't... doesn't that mean, say, FOX also performed voter suppression? By their own arguments?
 
2013-01-30 12:19:59 PM  

Felgraf: But, given that huge chunks of the right wing establishment suggested people were racist for voting for Obama, doesn't... doesn't that mean, say, FOX also performed voter suppression? By their own arguments?


Bah, wrong thread
 
2013-01-30 12:22:23 PM  
This story still feels like a hoax.  The documents reside on website of unknown origin created just to post the documents.   No one has vouched for their legitimacy of how they were obtained.  No one from the FBI has commented on the matter.

I'm happy to throw this guy under the bus but it is going to take a bit more than a Daily Caller scoop like this.
 
2013-01-30 12:49:13 PM  

mrshowrules: This story still feels like a hoax.  The documents reside on website of unknown origin created just to post the documents.   No one has vouched for their legitimacy of how they were obtained.  No one from the FBI has commented on the matter.

I'm happy to throw this guy under the bus but it is going to take a bit more than a Daily Caller scoop like this.


Did you read any of the actual e-mails?  Because they read like a shiatty catfish (thank you Manti Teo for putting that into the public lexicon).

The guy has been in contact with the agent since August and has not met with him once to present evidence or call on the phone to clarify.  He spends his time "collecting more evidences" (like testimonies from some of the girls, that he typed and sent to the agent.  He's holding onto the originals) rather than turning the investigation over to the FBI.  All the while, the stuff he does give to the agent doesn't seem to pan out (phone numbers that don't work for some of the girls).  It's all very thin at the moment.

If it does come out that this is all true, I'll be more than happy to see his ass to prison and credit the Daily Caller, but at the moment, I'll remain a bit circumspect.
 
2013-01-30 12:58:00 PM  

WI241TH: mrshowrules: This story still feels like a hoax.  The documents reside on website of unknown origin created just to post the documents.   No one has vouched for their legitimacy of how they were obtained.  No one from the FBI has commented on the matter.

I'm happy to throw this guy under the bus but it is going to take a bit more than a Daily Caller scoop like this.

Did you read any of the actual e-mails?  Because they read like a shiatty catfish (thank you Manti Teo for putting that into the public lexicon).

The guy has been in contact with the agent since August and has not met with him once to present evidence or call on the phone to clarify.  He spends his time "collecting more evidences" (like testimonies from some of the girls, that he typed and sent to the agent.  He's holding onto the originals) rather than turning the investigation over to the FBI.  All the while, the stuff he does give to the agent doesn't seem to pan out (phone numbers that don't work for some of the girls).  It's all very thin at the moment.

If it does come out that this is all true, I'll be more than happy to see his ass to prison and credit the Daily Caller, but at the moment, I'll remain a bit circumspect.


Basically this.  I think this is bogus but if isn't, he should (at minimum) resign but also be charged if possible.
 
2013-01-30 01:16:18 PM  

Mexican Jew Lizard: Debeo Summa Credo:
What are the rules in NJ regarding replacing resigned senators? Christie would presumably appoint a rep, if that's how it works there.

According to the law:

19:3-26 Vacancies in United States senate; election to fill; temporary appointment by governor.

19:3-26. If a vacancy shall happen in the representation of this State in the United States senate, it shall be filled at the general election next succeeding the happening thereof, unless such vacancy shall happen within 70 days next preceding such election, in which case it shall be filled by election at the second succeeding general election, unless the governor of this State shall deem it advisable to call a special election therefor, which he is authorized hereby to do.

The governor of this State may make a temporary appointment of a senator of the United States from this State whenever a vacancy shall occur by reason of any cause other than the expiration of the term; and such appointee shall serve as such senator until a special election or general election shall have been held pursuant to law and the Board of State Canvassers can deliver to his successor a certificate of election.

amended 2011, c.37, s.37.

Christie could appoint someone if he so chose until the next election (2018?), or he could call a special election for the seat. The governor could do either; I think Christie could go either way given he's not the most partisan Republican out there.


If history is any guide, the process will be something like:

1. Christie appoints someone, most probably a republican. Per the law as mentioned above.
2. The democrats in the state take the issue to the NJ supreme court, claiming some crap like "must replace democrat with democrat, that's the only fair thing to do!!!!!! WILL OF THE PEOPLE!!!!!11!!!"
3. The NJ Supreme Court ignores every precedent and the state constitution (as mentioned above) and finds for the democrats
4. Senator Cory Booker.

/It's the Torricelli amendment to the State Constitution
 
Displayed 50 of 52 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
Advertisement
On Twitter






In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report