Kyoowashugi: lunchinlewis:I wonder if they still listen through hydrophones anymore, or even have something similar on these ships. If you read through some of the old WWII submarine stories, they talk about fixing their position off shore by using bearings from the sounds of wave action on particular reefs/shoals they had on their charts.Not on a minesweeper, they don't. And I hope no surface ships are using passive sonar bearings for navigation...that sounds like a terrible idea. Bearing error alone would put you on the rocks in no time at all.The CO may survive this one, given the chart issue. Add that to the fact that the OOD is given standing orders to report (in my ship's case) any greater than a 20% difference between the charted depth and the fathometer readout, and you've got a very very fired Ensign over there.
Karac: I wonder how many out of the box ideas have been spitballed for this thing or how many people just don't want to chance being associated with the epic fail.You could try the aforementioned Ping-Pong balls; they worked on mythbusters, although that yacht was fully submerged. Or maybe putting strap some inflatable air bags around the hull. According to Wikipedia, the ship weighs in at around 1300 tons, and the record lift capacity for helicopters is around 44.Maybe unload all the fuel, weapons, bunk beds, ice cream in the freezer - basically unbolt & part out everything you can to make the thing lighter, then wait for max high tide, try to lift it and pull it off with a tug. It wouldn't take any longer than showing up with a bunch of cutting torches and trying to figure a safe way to dismantle the thing.
Valiente: Bollocks to the bad chart excuse. They didn't keep a proper lookout, didn't apparently either use or read the extensive forward sonar array they must have (warning: Coral cliff ahead!) and didn't keep a proper distance from known hazards. Bad chart, my bilge pump.Everyone involved should be turned into ladled chum./have run aground and got off myself without aid or further damage.
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