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(KATU)   If you took a picture of Portland's famous "White Stag" sign, you owe the city a $100 royalty. Subby reminds everyone that he purchased the Brooklyn Bridge photo rights, and is charging $50 for a one-time license   (katu.com) divider line 62
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2013-01-30 03:56:20 AM
Yeah, good luck with that, Portlandia.
 
2013-01-30 07:00:31 AM
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
Maybe Google will pay you the royalty, Portland, that's where I found this picture (along with dozens more of the same sign). Good luck collecting.
 
2013-01-30 08:16:39 AM
If it's so "iconic" how come I've never heard of it before this in my life?  Granted I'm way on the other side of the country, but I am keenly aware of the iconic "Hollywood" sign, the famous Vegas signs and others.  Never heard of this.
 
2013-01-30 08:17:45 AM
www.esa.org

Lots of money to be found on google.
 
2013-01-30 08:45:15 AM

basemetal: [www.esa.org image 769x350]

Lots of money to be found on google.


If they are serious, I wonder if Robert May's estate will want a piece of the action.  That looks a lot like Rudolf up there.
 
2013-01-30 09:04:41 AM
I believe the same is true for the Eiffel Tower when it's lit up at night. You can't use photos or video of it without paying some royalty or some such thing.

They say it's not the tower that's copyrighted (or trademarked or whatever) but the lighting on it. Which is why in daytime it's fair game.

This would be for commercial use photos/video.
 
2013-01-30 09:06:32 AM
It's the fault of the new mayor, I'm sure
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-30 09:18:32 AM
These guys need to talk to the experts.  Here's a sign you pay to look at.

upload.wikimedia.org

Hot, like your mom.
 
2013-01-30 09:19:42 AM
Someone has to pay to clean up all those f*cking hipsters.
 
2013-01-30 09:21:16 AM
From the portlandoregon.gov web site:
If you'd like to use an image of the Sign for any sort of commercial purpose, such as licensing, filming, or photography please contact the Bureau of Internal Business Services. Contact and fee information is listed below.

Don't worry, your vacation photos are fine.
 
2013-01-30 10:22:35 AM

Krieghund: From the portlandoregon.gov web site:
If you'd like to use an image of the Sign for any sort of commercial purpose, such as licensing, filming, or photography please contact the Bureau of Internal Business Services. Contact and fee information is listed below.

Don't worry, your vacation photos are fine.


FOR NOW.
 
2013-01-30 10:22:58 AM
www.shimelle.com

/quit running up Drew's bill to Oregon
//Farkers
 
2013-01-30 10:26:24 AM

Krieghund: From the portlandoregon.gov web site:
If you'd like to use an image of the Sign for any sort of commercial purpose, such as licensing, filming, or photography please contact the Bureau of Internal Business Services. Contact and fee information is listed below.

Don't worry, your vacation photos are fine.


Yeah I was figuring BS. You can take photos in any public place for personal use, which is why so many security guards and cops get in trouble for trying to stop it.
 
2013-01-30 10:26:51 AM

Krieghund: Don't worry, your vacation photos are fine.


The guffawing morons won't understand that. Let them have their fun.
 
2013-01-30 10:30:24 AM
www.esa.org

See that RED NOSE on the deer in your "iconic" sign. Portland?


upload.wikimedia.org


The Rudolph Company, L.P. would like a word with you.
 
2013-01-30 10:32:38 AM

nekom: If it's so "iconic" how come I've never heard of it before this in my life?  Granted I'm way on the other side of the country, but I am keenly aware of the iconic "Hollywood" sign, the famous Vegas signs and others.  Never heard of this.


The sign lets you know you are entering the hobo haven part of town as well as a place to find strip clubs, drag shows and bacon donuts
 
2013-01-30 10:32:40 AM
I think that they will have some control over the sign's commercial use. Colorado used a photo of Wyoming's Tetons promoting tourism in Colorado. Wyoming sued and won.
 
2013-01-30 10:33:16 AM

Barfmaker: I believe the same is true for the Eiffel Tower when it's lit up at night. You can't use photos or video of it without paying some royalty or some such thing.

They say it's not the tower that's copyrighted (or trademarked or whatever) but the lighting on it. Which is why in daytime it's fair game.

This would be for commercial use photos/video.


That's exactly true. The company that manges the Eiffel Tower tried to get royalties out of postcard publishing companies, but they got told off by the court. So, they declared the lighting of the tower as a work of art, and demand royalties for all pictures taken at night. Daylight pictures are still royalty-free, but hey, that's something.

So, basically, considering that the sign COULD be considered a work of art, royalties could be demanded for reproduction for commercial purpose.
 
2013-01-30 10:34:55 AM
Ummmm, Molon Labe?
 
2013-01-30 10:39:32 AM

dukwbutter: I think that they will have some control over the sign's commercial use. Colorado used a photo of Wyoming's Tetons promoting tourism in Colorado. Wyoming sued and won.


Well, wouldn't you be upset if someone was sending around photos of your Tetons?
 
2013-01-30 10:47:23 AM

Krieghund: From the portlandoregon.gov web site:
If you'd like to use an image of the Sign for any sort of commercial purpose, such as licensing, filming, or photography please contact the Bureau of Internal Business Services. Contact and fee information is listed below.

Don't worry, your vacation photos are fine.


If my business was in Portland use of that icon for $100 would be a screaming deal.
 
2013-01-30 11:02:05 AM

Amos Quito: [www.esa.org image 769x350]

See that RED NOSE on the deer in your "iconic" sign. Portland?


[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x315]


The Rudolph Company, L.P. would like a word with you.


The White Stag Sportswear company would like a word with you.
i212.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-30 11:02:10 AM
Could someone please photoshop that to read

Pornland

Orgasm


I would, but I have to be at the gym...

/No skilz  :-/
 
2013-01-30 11:05:44 AM
The original sign:
i212.photobucket.com

See the deer down below? That predates Rudolph by 26 years.

Here's a version of it from the 90's when it was bought by a company called Made in Oregon:
i212.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-30 11:06:39 AM
Never seen this before in my life. They can have at it.
 
2013-01-30 11:09:52 AM
But it's not "famous"...
 
2013-01-30 11:09:54 AM
Anyone post this yet?

www.shimelle.com
 
2013-01-30 11:10:05 AM

stpauler: It's the fault of the new mayor, I'm sure
[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 233x216]


Ok, I did not see that coming.
i212.photobucket.com

/I said Wheatballs!
 
2013-01-30 11:10:34 AM
Yeah. Keep the lawyers busy. Fark everyone else.
 
2013-01-30 11:13:18 AM
oh hai guize whats going on in this thred, heres a kewl sign i found on the internets

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-30 11:14:11 AM

El_Frijole_Blanco: The sign lets you know you are entering the hobo haven part of town as well as a place to find strip clubs, drag shows and bacon donuts



1.bp.blogspot.com
Old Town?
 
2013-01-30 11:16:40 AM
I found this cool picture of a TV show, but the sign in the background got cut off. Anybody have a full picture?

i212.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-30 11:19:38 AM

Rich Cream: El_Frijole_Blanco: The sign lets you know you are entering the hobo haven part of town as well as a place to find strip clubs, drag shows and bacon donuts


[1.bp.blogspot.com image 550x342]
Old Town?


Yes
 
2013-01-30 11:24:24 AM
Gee, what's the sign look like from the other side. Pure evil. And the city has to pay you $100.
 
2013-01-30 11:24:41 AM

El_Frijole_Blanco: Rich Cream: El_Frijole_Blanco: The sign lets you know you are entering the hobo haven part of town as well as a place to find strip clubs, drag shows and bacon donuts


[1.bp.blogspot.com image 550x342]
Old Town?

Yes


Let me zoom in a bit, I'm not sure...

upload.wikimedia.org

Why, yes it does say 'Old Town'.
 
2013-01-30 11:25:21 AM
The laws regarding the recording of other persons and property by means of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photography">still photography, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videography">videography, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_recording">audio recording vary by location. In many places, it is common for the recording of public property, persons within the public domain, and of private property visible or audible from the public domain to be legal. But laws have been passed in many places restricting such activity in order to protect the privacy of others.
Others, as in people.... not signs.  Good luck with that one, Portland.

News photog for 15 years I was, and if I could SEE it from public property, I could SHOOT it.  That means if your curtains in your house are open, I could legally take pictures of you doing shiat in your own home.
.......and I did.......
 
2013-01-30 11:32:47 AM
They are simply taking a page from the "Patent Troll" business model. Trying to make a pile of cash producing zero value and pissing everyone off.
 
2013-01-30 11:34:10 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-30 11:39:46 AM

El_Frijole_Blanco: nekom: If it's so "iconic" how come I've never heard of it before this in my life?  Granted I'm way on the other side of the country, but I am keenly aware of the iconic "Hollywood" sign, the famous Vegas signs and others.  Never heard of this.

The sign lets you know you are entering the hobo haven part of town as well as a place to find strip clubs, drag shows and bacon donuts


Don't forget the open air heroin and crack market.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-30 11:41:38 AM
gritty charm

Gritty means dirty and you're going to get robbed and left to die in an alley. That doesn't charm me. That tells me stay away.
 
2013-01-30 11:49:58 AM
t3.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-30 11:50:49 AM

badscooter: [i.imgur.com image 649x433]


you win an internetz
+1
 
2013-01-30 11:56:11 AM

dukwbutter: I think that they will have some control over the sign's commercial use. Colorado used a photo of Wyoming's Tetons promoting tourism in Colorado. Wyoming sued and won.


Which is a Fair Use purpose. Really, if you use the sign in your Portland strip club ad, then you should expect to pay a royalty.

/not completely snarky.
 
2013-01-30 12:12:58 PM
For all of you people who keep saying that people's vacation photos are OK, the actual answer is that in this case, yes, your personal snaps are fine.

But that's not always the case. If you take a vacation picture of the Atomium in Belgium, you're screwed.

The people who own the Atomium are well known for being absolutely rabid about photographs, especially on the internet. They've given the tourist attraction such a bad name that even one of Brussels' mayors asked them to cool it, but they wouldn't.

I knew a guy who posted a vacation photo of himself standing in front of it on his personal web site, and *BAM* a letter from the "Artist's Rights Society" -- the American collection agency for the Atomium -- demanding payment, or get hauled into court.

He sent several e-mails back-and-forth with the Atomium people and they wouldn't budge and eventually stopped responding to him. He ended up taking down his web site -- his personal web site of vacation photos -- because of it.

/csb

I hope the Belgians don't wonder how they got a reputation for being a bunch of arrogant bureaucrats.
 
2013-01-30 12:20:38 PM

hdhale: El_Frijole_Blanco: Rich Cream: El_Frijole_Blanco: The sign lets you know you are entering the hobo haven part of town as well as a place to find strip clubs, drag shows and bacon donuts


[1.bp.blogspot.com image 550x342]
Old Town?

Yes

Let me zoom in a bit, I'm not sure...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x652]

Why, yes it does say 'Old Town'.



Sin City was a documentary?
 
2013-01-30 12:23:15 PM

reaperducer: For all of you people who keep saying that people's vacation photos are OK, the actual answer is that in this case, yes, your personal snaps are fine.

But that's not always the case. If you take a vacation picture of the Atomium in Belgium, you're screwed.

The people who own the Atomium are well known for being absolutely rabid about photographs, especially on the internet. They've given the tourist attraction such a bad name that even one of Brussels' mayors asked them to cool it, but they wouldn't.

I knew a guy who posted a vacation photo of himself standing in front of it on his personal web site, and *BAM* a letter from the "Artist's Rights Society" -- the American collection agency for the Atomium -- demanding payment, or get hauled into court.

He sent several e-mails back-and-forth with the Atomium people and they wouldn't budge and eventually stopped responding to him. He ended up taking down his web site -- his personal web site of vacation photos -- because of it.

/csb

I hope the Belgians don't wonder how they got a reputation for being a bunch of arrogant bureaucrats.


He couldn't just take down that one photo?
 
2013-01-30 12:25:43 PM

aphyd: I hope the Belgians don't wonder how they got a reputation for being a bunch of arrogant bureaucrats.

He couldn't just take down that one photo?



Then he wouldn't be cutting off his nose to spite his face.

/one-quarter Belgian
 
2013-01-30 12:36:42 PM
Public sign owned by the people, therefore we the people issue a open license for anyone to use the sign in anyway legally possible without destruction of it, for all eternity.

/My particular license plate is copyrighted by me, as per all my documentation showing me as the registered owner, therefore any city camera taking pictures of it owes me $500 per photo.
//Images taken of my person by city cameras is a $1000 fee.
 
2013-01-30 12:40:25 PM
Yeah good luck with that.
 
2013-01-30 12:46:18 PM

aphyd: reaperducer: For all of you people who keep saying that people's vacation photos are OK, the actual answer is that in this case, yes, your personal snaps are fine.

But that's not always the case. If you take a vacation picture of the Atomium in Belgium, you're screwed.

The people who own the Atomium are well known for being absolutely rabid about photographs, especially on the internet. They've given the tourist attraction such a bad name that even one of Brussels' mayors asked them to cool it, but they wouldn't.

I knew a guy who posted a vacation photo of himself standing in front of it on his personal web site, and *BAM* a letter from the "Artist's Rights Society" -- the American collection agency for the Atomium -- demanding payment, or get hauled into court.

He sent several e-mails back-and-forth with the Atomium people and they wouldn't budge and eventually stopped responding to him. He ended up taking down his web site -- his personal web site of vacation photos -- because of it.

/csb

I hope the Belgians don't wonder how they got a reputation for being a bunch of arrogant bureaucrats.

He couldn't just take down that one photo?

I'm sure he could have, but he was quite mad about the whole thing. I think he decided to just give up on the whole web site rather than risk the wrath of another roadside tourist attraction.
 
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