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(NPR)   35 years ago to the day, Fleetwood Mac's quintessential late 70s album 'Rumours' was released. To this day, some guy still hates it. BURN HIM AT THE STAKE   (npr.org) divider line 104
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2013-01-30 08:56:11 AM

b0rscht: SilentStrider: I'm with that guy. Never understood the love for that album/group.

Go back further... they started out as a white guy blues band in the 60s, moved to more poppy stuff before SN came on board and they became huge. Future Games is a personal favorite. The song of the same title is dreamy psychedelia, kind of Alan Parsons-ish.


You can divide the band's output into three eras, more or less: the Peter Green blues-rock band at the start, and the Hollywood MOR stuff of the later period.

The middle period, with Bob Welch and Christine McVie doing most of the writing, and Danny Kirwan and Bob Weston supplying the guitar hooks, was always the most interesting to me. Albums like Kiln House, Mystery to Me, Future Games and Bare Trees were getting airtime on the college radio circuit and perhaps in some of the major metro areas in the states, but they were really a cult favorite through those years. "Mystery to Me" is having a comeback, of sorts, on Adult Alternative playlists.

Here ya go.

Thing is, I really like Lindsay Buckingham's songwriting. I just find the later work of the band to be over-produced and over-played.
 
2013-01-30 08:58:35 AM

OldManDownDRoad: b0rscht: SilentStrider: I'm with that guy. Never understood the love for that album/group.

Go back further... they started out as a white guy blues band in the 60s, moved to more poppy stuff before SN came on board and they became huge. Future Games is a personal favorite. The song of the same title is dreamy psychedelia, kind of Alan Parsons-ish.

You can divide the band's output into three eras, more or less: the Peter Green blues-rock band at the start, and the Hollywood MOR stuff of the later period.

The middle period, with Bob Welch and Christine McVie doing most of the writing, and Danny Kirwan and Bob Weston supplying the guitar hooks, was always the most interesting to me. Albums like Kiln House, Mystery to Me, Future Games and Bare Trees were getting airtime on the college radio circuit and perhaps in some of the major metro areas in the states, but they were really a cult favorite through those years. "Mystery to Me" is having a comeback, of sorts, on Adult Alternative playlists.

Here ya go.

Thing is, I really like Lindsay Buckingham's songwriting. I just find the later work of the band to be over-produced and over-played.


His solo stuff is by and large pretty enjoyable.
 
2013-01-30 08:58:47 AM

OldManDownDRoad: Thing is, I really like Lindsay Buckingham's songwriting. I just find the later work of the band to be over-produced and over-played.


I saw a special on the making of National Lampoon's Vacation recently, and Buckingham did their theme song himself, as a one man band.
 
2013-01-30 08:59:41 AM

Alphax: OldManDownDRoad: Thing is, I really like Lindsay Buckingham's songwriting. I just find the later work of the band to be over-produced and over-played.

I saw a special on the making of National Lampoon's Vacation recently, and Buckingham did their theme song himself, as a one man band.


Love that song. The dog bark sample during the fadeout is so breathtakingly goofy.
 
2013-01-30 09:00:22 AM

markfara: Shotgun Justice: FirstNationalBastard: phaseolus: Even after having heard it fifty million times back then, I can still listen to those songs today and want to hear them again.

Especially "Songbird".

I can't say the same thing about any other popular successes from the same period. I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...

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Nice list. I would also throw in Bowie and Rolling Stones as peakers in the 70s.

and Roxy Music


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2013-01-30 09:04:03 AM

markfara: Alphax: OldManDownDRoad: Thing is, I really like Lindsay Buckingham's songwriting. I just find the later work of the band to be over-produced and over-played.

I saw a special on the making of National Lampoon's Vacation recently, and Buckingham did their theme song himself, as a one man band.

Love that song. The dog bark sample during the fadeout is so breathtakingly goofy.


I'll have to check that out.

I watched Buckingham do "Bleed to Love Her" as a promo in a local radio station for one of his solo tours. It's a great song and he played his heart out. Apparently he's a flake IRL, but most musicians are, more or less.

/know from long experience
 
2013-01-30 09:06:49 AM

markfara: theorellior: FirstNationalBastard: /Costello was also doing better country music in that era than Nashville was crapping out.

Indeed he was.

That's because he did country, rather than that "rock-with-a-twang" sh*t that passes for country nowadays.


Y'know, I feel I should have expanded on that statement... Nashville generally always puts out crappy pop with fiddles, and Costello's dabbling in country was and is generally better than anything coming out of mainstream country.

However, in the late-70s, Waylon and Willie and the boys were putting out some great stuff over in the Outlaw Country genre.

/and it's still going on today, where FM Pop Country still sucks, but the Alt Country stuff you have to search for is great.
 
2013-01-30 09:11:24 AM

FirstNationalBastard: However, in the late-70s, Waylon and Willie and the boys were putting out some great stuff over in the Outlaw Country genre.


Waxing nostalgic about Luckenbach, Texas, are we?
 
2013-01-30 09:11:51 AM

OldManDownDRoad: markfara: Alphax: OldManDownDRoad: Thing is, I really like Lindsay Buckingham's songwriting. I just find the later work of the band to be over-produced and over-played.

I saw a special on the making of National Lampoon's Vacation recently, and Buckingham did their theme song himself, as a one man band.

Love that song. The dog bark sample during the fadeout is so breathtakingly goofy.

I'll have to check that out.

I watched Buckingham do "Bleed to Love Her" as a promo in a local radio station for one of his solo tours. It's a great song and he played his heart out. Apparently he's a flake IRL, but most musicians are, more or less.

/know from long experience


I hear you. I used to hang some with a female musician whose name you would know. She was pretty brilliant, but how enjoyable spending time with her was really depended on which of her six or seven personalities was online at the time.

Her twin sister, on the other hand, was amazingly normal. Go figure. . . .
 
2013-01-30 09:18:14 AM

HAMMERTOE: FirstNationalBastard: However, in the late-70s, Waylon and Willie and the boys were putting out some great stuff over in the Outlaw Country genre.

Waxing nostalgic about Luckenbach, Texas, are we?


Actually, that was kind of the end of the good stuff.

'75 was a damn good year, though, with Red Headed Stranger, I'm A Rambling Man, and Dreaming My Dreams.
 
2013-01-30 09:25:10 AM

FirstNationalBastard: '75 was a damn good year, though, with Red Headed Stranger, I'm A Rambling Man, and Dreaming My Dreams.


And Kenny Rogers hadn't become the face of country music yet. I get you.
 
2013-01-30 09:27:01 AM
Listening to the album right now. The 2004 Deluxe Reissue that put Silver Springs back on the album, between Songbird and The Chain.
 
2013-01-30 09:33:22 AM

Count_0: The Best Fleetwood Mac song.


It has a good beat and I can dance to it.
 
2013-01-30 09:57:49 AM
Chicks were the downfall of the band.
When it was all just musicians, they were OK.
 
2013-01-30 09:58:26 AM
I'll even bring the stake for you.
 
2013-01-30 10:16:03 AM

InmanRoshi: Then they then take turns in a game of hyperbole one-ups-manship as to who was the most effected by this band.


So, what are their Fark handles? Have you read this thread? :D
 
2013-01-30 10:52:12 AM

Count_0: The Best Fleetwood Mac song.


That better be Tusk, click

Ok then, carry on
 
2013-01-30 11:34:23 AM
Then burn me at the stake. Sh*tty band, sh*tty album.
 
2013-01-30 12:36:24 PM

The English Major: Listening to the album right now. The 2004 Deluxe Reissue that put Silver Springs back on the album, between Songbird and The Chain.


this has to be one of your threads
 
2013-01-30 12:53:44 PM
Could have sworn that was late '77
 
2013-01-30 01:04:40 PM
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I'd have laid her down in the tall grass and done my stuff...
 
2013-01-30 01:12:59 PM
It was fine for its time and I had a copy that I played to death, but the years have not been kind to it. Plus, it was the Clintons anthem, which admittedly helped to turn me off to it.
 
2013-01-30 01:30:02 PM

geocacherphil: Count_0: The Best Fleetwood Mac song.

That better be Tusk, click

Ok then, carry on


Nah,,, Silver Springs for the win.
 
2013-01-30 02:18:23 PM

HAMMERTOE: markfara: The legendary hitchhiker says that he knows where it's at.

...clean outta reach.


With his two-tone Bible and funny cigarettes, his suntan lotion and his ca-ca-castinets.
 
2013-01-30 02:26:55 PM
I didn't like it much in 1977, but I was a teenager, and I was listening to new wave. I grew to appreciate it more later. The songs are far more relevant to a 30-something.
 
2013-01-30 03:06:03 PM
I was fascinated watching Buckingham play Big Love solo. That was some mad guitar playing.
 
2013-01-30 04:15:01 PM
I like Fleetwood Mac the same way I like the Moody Blues and the Alan Parsons Project. They change some from album to album, so there's always something to suit your mood. Can't say that about a lot of bands today, simply because they haven't been around long enough to evolve.
 
2013-01-30 04:37:55 PM

GameSprocket: I was fascinated watching Buckingham play Big Love solo. That was some mad guitar playing.

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2013-01-30 04:40:39 PM
Why is it that the more obscure a persons taste in music is, the more hip they think they are?

Not everyone is looking to make a bold statement with their taste in music, some of us just like to hear a catchy tune on the radio that we can enjoy and sing along to or tune it out as background noise as the need arises.
 
2013-01-30 04:47:34 PM

ReapTheChaos: Why is it that the more obscure a persons taste in music is, the more hip they think they are?


Read any of Robert Cialdini's books, and you'll get some pretty good insight into it.
 
2013-01-30 04:58:42 PM
Don't ask me what I think of you -- I might not give the answer that you want me to.
 
2013-01-30 06:36:01 PM
Rule numero uno about old school record store clerks: NEVER trust their musical tastes.  They're so farking burned out on pop they have to go for the most obscure shiat on the planet.  It's not to say there isn't good obscure shiat out there (given that I have Deep Blue Something, Morphine and Oleander in my collection and enjoy all three, I kinda am contractually obligated to say so), it's just that there are few things in this life that are harder to find two people who share similar interests in than music.  Even my best friends, most of whom I'm in a band with, have completely different musical tastes than I do.
 
2013-01-30 06:37:49 PM

ReapTheChaos: Why is it that the more obscure a persons taste in music is, the more hip they think they are?

Not everyone is looking to make a bold statement with their taste in music, some of us just like to hear a catchy tune on the radio that we can enjoy and sing along to or tune it out as background noise as the need arises.


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2013-01-30 06:38:47 PM

HAMMERTOE: FirstNationalBastard: Elvis Costello- My Aim is True.jpg.

Holy Schit. Costello was a sublime fusion of Emo, Punk, New Wave, and Pop Mockery. Not many realize the true genius the man represented. What everybody projected onto Jim Morrison's drug-addled corpse, Elvis quietly embodied.


Jim Morrison was an asshole. When I was a teenager (90s), I basically worshiped him. That stupid Oliver Stone movie (but I repeat myself) definitely added to it.

Then one day, for no real reason, it occurred to me that Morrison was a useless, pretentious twatwaffle whose only real claim to fame was being an unapologetic drunk and allegedly showing his penis somewhere in Florida. The 'poetry' was mostly tripe.

 The band itself was pretty good, and I recognize Morrison's "rock star" appeal. But c'mon, why don't more people notice how much a self-important douchenozzle he was?

/still loves "L.A. Woman," though...that song just rocks
 
2013-01-30 06:44:31 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Quantum Apostrophe: Why were men so skinny back then?

Mountains of cocaine?


Or heroin. Mick's beard is thicker than his torso for chrissake.
 
2013-01-30 07:16:21 PM

dickfreckle: HAMMERTOE: FirstNationalBastard: Elvis Costello- My Aim is True.jpg.

Holy Schit. Costello was a sublime fusion of Emo, Punk, New Wave, and Pop Mockery. Not many realize the true genius the man represented. What everybody projected onto Jim Morrison's drug-addled corpse, Elvis quietly embodied.

Jim Morrison was an asshole. When I was a teenager (90s), I basically worshiped him. That stupid Oliver Stone movie (but I repeat myself) definitely added to it.

Then one day, for no real reason, it occurred to me that Morrison was a useless, pretentious twatwaffle whose only real claim to fame was being an unapologetic drunk and allegedly showing his penis somewhere in Florida. The 'poetry' was mostly tripe.

 The band itself was pretty good, and I recognize Morrison's "rock star" appeal. But c'mon, why don't more people notice how much a self-important douchenozzle he was?

/still loves "L.A. Woman," though...that song just rocks


  I think you're the reason why people hate freckles on their junk. Jim didn't whip out his dick to become famous, he was famous long before that. The Doors didn't rely on Marilyn Manson "cheap tricks" for fame.    He probably did it to show that famous people can whip out their dicks and get away with it.  If LA woman is your favorite Doors song,,,then  You suck at Doors. Now go back to your nostalgia closet.

/Oh,,, And the Doors movie rocked.
 
2013-01-30 07:31:06 PM

HAMMERTOE: FirstNationalBastard: Elvis Costello- My Aim is True.jpg.

Holy Schit. Costello was a sublime fusion of Emo, Punk, New Wave, and Pop Mockery. Not many realize the true genius the man represented. What everybody projected onto Jim Morrison's drug-addled corpse, Elvis quietly embodied.


I always preferred Graham Parker & The Rumour.
 
2013-01-30 08:34:12 PM

Krikkitbot: I had never noticed the balls hanging from Mick.

I also thing it's funny how the author is criticizing Fleetwood Mac for being a bland middle of the road band while he is writing for freaking  NPR!!!


Rumors is a great album but everything they recorded after that is dull.
 
2013-01-30 09:09:31 PM

FirstNationalBastard: phaseolus: Even after having heard it fifty million times back then, I can still listen to those songs today and want to hear them again.

Especially "Songbird".

I can't say the same thing about any other popular successes from the same period. I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...

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You forgot VH debut album in '77. That farker changed how the guitar was played and sounded.
 
2013-01-30 09:12:49 PM
Oh hell, let's throw this one up there, crica 1980-81 I am guessing.
I'd hate to guess the amount of drugs within 10 feet of those three at that time.
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2013-01-30 09:25:15 PM

ozarkmatt: Oh hell, let's throw this one up there, crica 1980-81 I am guessing.
I'd hate to guess the amount of drugs within 10 feet of those three at that time.
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Ok, Bonnie Raitt for sure, I think maybe David Lee Roth, but who's the youngster on the left?
 
2013-01-30 09:27:58 PM

ozarkmatt: I'd hate to guess the amount of drugs within 10 feet of those three at that time.


Here's a pic:

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2013-01-30 09:45:08 PM

dickfreckle: still loves "L.A. Woman," though...that song just rocks


Favorite song of all time.
 
2013-01-30 09:47:46 PM

ununcle: If LA woman is your favorite Doors song,,,then You suck at Doors


Guess I won't be getting a farking Xmas card from you next year.
 
2013-01-30 10:53:20 PM
The more hip you think they think they think they are. We all like music for our own reasons. When i heard fleetwood mac i didnt think im not gonna not like this on purpose to be bold and just to upset someone on the internet in 20 years
 
2013-01-30 10:57:28 PM
TUSK
 
2013-01-30 11:32:34 PM

Count_0: The Best Fleetwood Mac song.


Nah. This is.

Link
 
2013-01-31 12:37:26 AM

John Buck 41: ununcle: If LA woman is your favorite Doors song,,,then You suck at Doors

Guess I won't be getting a farking Xmas card from you next year.


Don't get me wrong. I love LA woman. It's just IMO "When the musics over" should have been the Doors "Stairway to heaven".  Or hell even "the End".  Oh, for fark sake, Whiskey bar, or moonlight drive or, riders of the storm,,,, or about almoust anything pre- touuch me babe. Just my opinion.
 
2013-01-31 08:33:26 AM

saturn badger: Count_0: The Best Fleetwood Mac song.

Nah. This is.

Link


I'll go with this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaTd_oItViI
 
2013-01-31 11:40:46 AM
February 4, 1977 - January 29 2013 =/= 35 years to the day, subby.
 
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