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(NPR)   35 years ago to the day, Fleetwood Mac's quintessential late 70s album 'Rumours' was released. To this day, some guy still hates it. BURN HIM AT THE STAKE   (npr.org) divider line 104
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2013-01-30 01:28:58 AM
I had never noticed the balls hanging from Mick.

I also thing it's funny how the author is criticizing Fleetwood Mac for being a bland middle of the road band while he is writing for freaking  NPR!!!
 
2013-01-30 01:50:24 AM
The dude has a point.
 
2013-01-30 02:15:14 AM
Lindsey Buckingham was so HOT in his day. Sigh.
 
2013-01-30 02:38:19 AM
I've never really cared about it either. Not sure why it's relevant, art and music are only relevant to the observer/listener- whatever you like you like, and whatever you don't you don't, and the reasons why are only meaningful to you. I know and like lots of great people who listen to music that would make me stab my eardrums out, and probably vice versa.
 
2013-01-30 04:18:58 AM
Meh.  I have been a Fleetwood Mac fan since, oh, when i was 7 or so .  38 years later- they still sound good, imho.
Plus- Mick made a cool alien in st: tng
 
2013-01-30 05:38:43 AM
I'm still not a fan of Froggy.
 
2013-01-30 06:43:03 AM
Why were men so skinny back then?
 
2013-01-30 06:47:22 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Why were men so skinny back then?


Mountains of cocaine?
 
2013-01-30 06:54:52 AM
(looks up the tracks on Amazon)

I like The Chain. Go Your Own Way isn't bad, either.
 
2013-01-30 06:56:45 AM
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2013-01-30 06:57:37 AM
Album reminds me of being a toddler. Walking around our single wide trailer, mom vacuuming, this album blaring in the Yamaha stereo.


/CSB
 
2013-01-30 07:08:23 AM
Haters can go ahead and hate. All they're doing is missing out.
 
2013-01-30 07:39:20 AM
I'm with that guy. Never understood the love for that album/group.
 
2013-01-30 07:45:13 AM
There will always be people nostalgic for the bland, soulless mass-market pop that came out in a particular era. This same conversation will probably be had in 35 years about the latest Taylor Swift album.
 
2013-01-30 07:50:06 AM

SilentStrider: I'm with that guy. Never understood the love for that album/group.


Go back further... they started out as a white guy blues band in the 60s, moved to more poppy stuff before SN came on board and they became huge. Future Games is a personal favorite. The song of the same title is dreamy psychedelia, kind of Alan Parsons-ish.
 
2013-01-30 07:57:05 AM
Even after having heard it fifty million times back then, I can still listen to those songs today and want to hear them again.

Especially "Songbird".

I can't say the same thing about any other popular successes from the same period. I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...
 
2013-01-30 08:02:54 AM
January 1977 was 36 years ago.

Still a good album.
 
2013-01-30 08:04:55 AM

Krikkitbot: I also thing it's funny how the author is criticizing Fleetwood Mac for being a bland middle of the road band while he is writing for freaking NPR!!!


Ever heard the NPR All Songs Considered podcast?

I"ll save you some time ... it's a roundtable discussion where a bunch of 40 somethings hate your favorite band, and then promote a garage band that they saw live at SXSW this year that banged on trashcans with a boatoar and fed feedback through their amps for 90 minutes. Then they play a 9 minute clip of said boat oars on trashcans and feedback. Then they then take turns in a game of hyperbole one-ups-manship as to who was the most effected by this band.

Guy 1: "When I first heard them, I broke down and openly sobbed remembering the inevitable death and decay of all life".

Guy 2: "Yeah, I had a little stronger reaction than you, because I'm much more sensitive to the power of music than you .... I openly sobbed to start out, but then I started to vomit bile from the sad, morose beauty of it all".

Guy 3: "Well, I guess I was a little more moved by the music than both of you, probably because you're both pop music loving philistines who probably listen to Carly Rae Jepsen .... but when I first heard this album, I openly sobbed, then vomited bile and then went a step further and put on a teaparty dress and started cutting myself because daddy never told me I was a pretty boy. I guess I just love real, authentic music that much than you, but you two go ahead and enjoy your Call Me Maybes"
 
2013-01-30 08:06:03 AM

phaseolus: Even after having heard it fifty million times back then, I can still listen to those songs today and want to hear them again.

Especially "Songbird".

I can't say the same thing about any other popular successes from the same period. I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...


images.amazon.com

www.welcometothe70s.com

www.retro-cafe.com

www.rollingstone.com

images.amazon.com
 
2013-01-30 08:07:36 AM
Meh.
 
2013-01-30 08:09:04 AM
 
2013-01-30 08:14:55 AM
McVie and Buckingham were awesome pop writers/performers. The rest of that lineup could vanish, and I personally wouldn't notice.
 
2013-01-30 08:20:15 AM

Count_0: The Best Fleetwood Mac song.


Another video of same song (jump to 2:00 for the band entrance if you are impatient)
 
2013-01-30 08:24:55 AM
The funny thing about the pop version of Fleetwood Mac is that it's still consummate musicianship, it's just been layered and tweaked and folded and smoothed out. And although everyone loves to make fun of Stevie Nicks and her gravelly voice, she can still sing like a motherfarker.

Anyway, "Rumours" is not something that I put on every day, but it has it's place. Much like Gerry Rafferty's "City to City". And if you're looking for a self-contained lesson in how to properly record, mix and layer a studio album, just pop on some headphones and listen to the magic.
 
2013-01-30 08:26:35 AM
I loathe them.
I had to sit through watching them become popular and live with their fans.
ba-a-a-a-a-a-a
 
2013-01-30 08:27:00 AM

FirstNationalBastard: phaseolus: Even after having heard it fifty million times back then, I can still listen to those songs today and want to hear them again.

Especially "Songbird".

I can't say the same thing about any other popular successes from the same period. I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...

[images.amazon.com image 300x292]

[www.welcometothe70s.com image 385x385]

[www.retro-cafe.com image 500x503]

[www.rollingstone.com image 500x500]

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Nice list. I would also throw in Bowie and Rolling Stones as peakers in the 70s.
 
2013-01-30 08:27:10 AM

Count_0: The Best Fleetwood Mac song.


Yeah, I made the mistake of buying that (premium-priced double album) also.
 
2013-01-30 08:29:07 AM

Shotgun Justice: FirstNationalBastard: phaseolus: Even after having heard it fifty million times back then, I can still listen to those songs today and want to hear them again.

Especially "Songbird".

I can't say the same thing about any other popular successes from the same period. I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...

[images.amazon.com image 300x292]

[www.welcometothe70s.com image 385x385]

[www.retro-cafe.com image 500x503]

[www.rollingstone.com image 500x500]

[images.amazon.com image 301x300]

Nice list. I would also throw in Bowie and Rolling Stones as peakers in the 70s.


and Roxy Music
 
2013-01-30 08:29:39 AM

Shotgun Justice: Nice list. I would also throw in Bowie and Rolling Stones as peakers in the 70s.


The only Stones that I actually like is the louche, sleazy, disco-tinged Stones around the time of "Emotional Rescue", "Miss You" and "Waiting on a Friend".
 
2013-01-30 08:31:50 AM

Shotgun Justice: FirstNationalBastard: phaseolus: Even after having heard it fifty million times back then, I can still listen to those songs today and want to hear them again.

Especially "Songbird".

I can't say the same thing about any other popular successes from the same period. I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...

[images.amazon.com image 300x292]

[www.welcometothe70s.com image 385x385]

[www.retro-cafe.com image 500x503]

[www.rollingstone.com image 500x500]

[images.amazon.com image 301x300]

Nice list. I would also throw in Bowie and Rolling Stones as peakers in the 70s.


Those albums are only from 1977, same year as Rumours.

The Stones didn't have a new album that year, but Bowie had Low and Heroes.
 
2013-01-30 08:32:07 AM

SilentStrider: I'm with that guy. Never understood the love for that album/group.


I don't care for Fleetwood Mac much, but I remember listening to that album 900 times when it came out--because those were the day, kids, when a cassette tape (I think it was a cassette and not an 8-track) was a prized possession, and you could only afford a few of them. So when Mom gave you the car to drive around at night, you had to bring your tapes with you or listen to the radio.

And all we had was Rumours. And Boston. There were a few others swimming around, but all I can remember is "Yoooouuuuuuuuuuuuuu, you make lovin fun!"

It amazes how much music I listened to unquestioningly when I was young and a captive audience, only to grow up and think, many years later, You know, I never liked those songs.
 
2013-01-30 08:33:43 AM
I saw them live in the early Eighties. Nicks spent most of the concert in a small, onstage tent, then toward the end of the show came out holding a rose with a ribbon around it. She apologized for being gone, saying that she was busy tying a ribbon around the rose.

Then she sniffed and wiped her nose with her hand. True story.
 
2013-01-30 08:34:34 AM

markfara: I saw them live in the early Eighties. Nicks spent most of the concert in a small, onstage tent, then toward the end of the show came out holding a rose with a ribbon around it. She apologized for being gone, saying that she was busy tying a ribbon around the rose.

Then she sniffed and wiped her nose with her hand. True story.


Oh, and Men at Work opened up for them. (Warren Zevon had cancelled.)
 
2013-01-30 08:36:59 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Elvis Costello- My Aim is True.jpg.


Holy Schit. Costello was a sublime fusion of Emo, Punk, New Wave, and Pop Mockery. Not many realize the true genius the man represented. What everybody projected onto Jim Morrison's drug-addled corpse, Elvis quietly embodied.
 
2013-01-30 08:37:44 AM

phaseolus: I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...


The sad thing is, Boston isn't bad. It's fine arena rock, and Tom Scholz is a decent guitarist. It's just been overplayed so freaking much that I can't hear any of it without getting all stabby.

Seriously, in the late 90s I was working in a shop where the radio was pegged to the Classic Rock station, and they played a Boston song every two hours. Literally. Every. Two. Hours. And not a deep cut. And nothing from "Third Stage", which for classic rock aficionados must've been some anathema from the 80s or something.

After the third repetition of "Foreplay/Long Time" you start getting a little bughouse.
 
2013-01-30 08:38:48 AM
It's an okay album. It's very well done from a production standpoint. I envy Lindsay Buckingham's fingerpicking abilities. If you're really into that period of Mac, skip "Tusk" and jump straight to Stevie Nicks' "Bella Donna." That's the closest thing to a good follow-up to "Rumours."

/Though some people really dig "Tusk."
 
2013-01-30 08:39:03 AM

markfara: I saw them live in the early Eighties. Nicks spent most of the concert in a small, onstage tent, then toward the end of the show came out holding a rose with a ribbon around it. She apologized for being gone, saying that she was busy tying a ribbon around the rose.

Then she sniffed and wiped her nose with her hand. True story.


Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
 
2013-01-30 08:39:33 AM

HAMMERTOE: Holy Schit. Costello was a sublime fusion of Emo, Punk, New Wave, and Pop Mockery. Not many realize the true genius the man represented. What everybody projected onto Jim Morrison's drug-addled corpse, Elvis quietly embodied.


Agreed. I consider his first three albums to be impeccable.
 
2013-01-30 08:39:56 AM

HAMMERTOE: FirstNationalBastard: Elvis Costello- My Aim is True.jpg.

Holy Schit. Costello was a sublime fusion of Emo, Punk, New Wave, and Pop Mockery. Not many realize the true genius the man represented. What everybody projected onto Jim Morrison's drug-addled corpse, Elvis quietly embodied.


Those first four Costello albums were magical (although "Armed Forces" was a bit overproduced).

If you don't squeal like a little girl whenever "Pump it Up" comes on the radio, you're simply not human.
 
2013-01-30 08:42:42 AM
They overplayed it. A lot. It's taken me a long time to be able to listen to it again.
 
2013-01-30 08:44:00 AM

theorellior: HAMMERTOE: Holy Schit. Costello was a sublime fusion of Emo, Punk, New Wave, and Pop Mockery. Not many realize the true genius the man represented. What everybody projected onto Jim Morrison's drug-addled corpse, Elvis quietly embodied.

Agreed. I consider his first three albums to be impeccable.


That's exactly what I was going to say.

Those first three albums are amazing.

Everything after? Eh, it has its moments.

/Costello was also doing better country music in that era than Nashville was crapping out.
 
2013-01-30 08:44:04 AM
The only F-Mac album I own is Then Play On.
 
2013-01-30 08:44:28 AM

theorellior: phaseolus: I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...

The sad thing is, Boston isn't bad. It's fine arena rock, and Tom Scholz is a decent guitarist. It's just been overplayed so freaking much that I can't hear any of it without getting all stabby.

Seriously, in the late 90s I was working in a shop where the radio was pegged to the Classic Rock station, and they played a Boston song every two hours. Literally. Every. Two. Hours. And not a deep cut. And nothing from "Third Stage", which for classic rock aficionados must've been some anathema from the 80s or something.

After the third repetition of "Foreplay/Long Time" you start getting a little bughouse.


I heard Boston's 'More than a Feeling' on the way home from work this morning.. very overplayed.
 
2013-01-30 08:46:30 AM

FirstNationalBastard: /Costello was also doing better country music in that era than Nashville was crapping out.


Indeed he was.
 
2013-01-30 08:49:44 AM

theorellior: FirstNationalBastard: /Costello was also doing better country music in that era than Nashville was crapping out.

Indeed he was.


That's because he did country, rather than that "rock-with-a-twang" sh*t that passes for country nowadays.
 
2013-01-30 08:50:46 AM

FirstNationalBastard: /Costello was also doing better country music in that era than Nashville was crapping out.


This.

But I just now had to go listen to Waiting for the End of the World for old time's sake.
 
2013-01-30 08:51:51 AM

Alphax: theorellior: phaseolus: I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...

The sad thing is, Boston isn't bad. It's fine arena rock, and Tom Scholz is a decent guitarist. It's just been overplayed so freaking much that I can't hear any of it without getting all stabby.

Seriously, in the late 90s I was working in a shop where the radio was pegged to the Classic Rock station, and they played a Boston song every two hours. Literally. Every. Two. Hours. And not a deep cut. And nothing from "Third Stage", which for classic rock aficionados must've been some anathema from the 80s or something.

After the third repetition of "Foreplay/Long Time" you start getting a little bughouse.

I heard Boston's 'More than a Feeling' on the way home from work this morning.. very overplayed.


Let me guess - KSHE95?
 
2013-01-30 08:52:39 AM

HAMMERTOE: FirstNationalBastard: /Costello was also doing better country music in that era than Nashville was crapping out.

This.

But I just now had to go listen to Waiting for the End of the World for old time's sake.


The legendary hitchhiker says that he knows where it's at.
 
2013-01-30 08:53:49 AM

verbaltoxin: Alphax: theorellior: phaseolus: I'm looking at you, complete works of Boston...

The sad thing is, Boston isn't bad. It's fine arena rock, and Tom Scholz is a decent guitarist. It's just been overplayed so freaking much that I can't hear any of it without getting all stabby.

Seriously, in the late 90s I was working in a shop where the radio was pegged to the Classic Rock station, and they played a Boston song every two hours. Literally. Every. Two. Hours. And not a deep cut. And nothing from "Third Stage", which for classic rock aficionados must've been some anathema from the 80s or something.

After the third repetition of "Foreplay/Long Time" you start getting a little bughouse.

I heard Boston's 'More than a Feeling' on the way home from work this morning.. very overplayed.

Let me guess - KSHE95?


Bingo.

At least they're going with a 'never repeat the same song in one day' thing lately.
 
2013-01-30 08:55:18 AM

markfara: The legendary hitchhiker says that he knows where it's at.


...clean outta reach.
 
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