people: Neondistraction: Reminds me of when I worked as a waiter back when I was younger. Instead of a tip, one day one of the waitresses got one of those stupid things that looked like a folded up $100 bill, but in reality was a note that said something to the effect of "Disappointed? You won't be if you accept Jesus into your life". That led to one of the most impressive strings of profanity I've ever heard. Not tipping is kind of a dick move anyway, but that's taking it to a whole new level.Aaaannnd. Holy crap, thats realFriend received this "tip" from a group of uppity Christians. It was folded in half so it would seem legit. Bill was $105
Mr Guy: gulogulo: No one is saying it's 'theft'. They're saying he's a asshole.No, we're actually saying if the automatic gratuity is listed on the menu, as it is almost everywhere, then he's legally obligated to pay it because it's a contract stipulation that's legally enforceable when disclosed in advance. He stole, indignant or not.
PostApocalypticTribe: When I was a waitress, minimum wage was somewhere around $5.25 and I made $2.15 an hour. My paycheck was a joke./csb//People who don't tip suck.///I'm pretty sure he's going to hell.
Zaelath: Ok.. why? Is 5 tables of 4 less work?Oh and "learn to type".
jayhawk88: Having a receipt that suggests 18% on a $35 bill is sort of ridiculous. Fix your computer.
AnubisMan: Not going to defend this guy but he did tip 18% which is more than some farkers routinely tip... Also someone tell this dumbass putting Pastor on the receipt doesn't make a bit of difference
Da Bum: Why would a business do such a thing when I pay for what I ate? Is a person who pays what they are obligated to pay the price they charge for the food unprofitable? If that was the case, then every single restaurant would be unprofitable because they are undercharging for their food. If the price I pay should include a tip, include it into the price on the menu, not in some outdated system that allows slackers to game the system and make more than they claim on taxes. I do my job, do I expect those I help for a tip for a job well done? No, I don't. I did my damn job and I don't complain because I got stiffed on a tip. I get paid what my employer pays me and we agreed to those terms. If I don't like the pay I get, I would find another job.
Da Bum: Yes, I can afford to tip. I choose not to buy into that system. And if I'm a part of a large group, half the time I'll grab a table that is separate but right next to them to bypass the "auto gratuity".
Bendal: At our regular Sunday lunch restaurant, we were seated when a huge group showed up to eat. Our regular waitress told us quietly this group had called ahead for seating for 12, but they were now up to 18, over a third of them were kids under the age of 8, and more "might show up".The party was seated at two large tables (created by shoving smaller tables together, of course; that right there messes up the server's tables), with the small kids at one table (unsupervised) and the adults at the other. Sure enough, two more families show up and want to be seated with the larger party. More tables get shoved together, to the point where the only remaining non-party seating left are the booths.The restaurant pulls two servers off the booths to handle this party. The kids start getting noisy; the adults get noisier to talk over the kids. The servers have trouble getting anything like a coherent order from the kids, and their parents are just the "well let them order for themselves" type. Our regular server, btw, got pulled off the booths and onto helping with the party (she keeps our table though).The kids are now getting up and running around; parents either ignore them, deep in their own conversations, or just throwing out "now go and sit back down now" that the kids ignore.Another regular customer shows up, and is seated in a booth next to the kids' table. She has a book and clearly intends to sit and read while her meal is prepared. The kids by now are deafening. After a few minutes of this, the customer stands up and yells "will you kids please BEHAVE yourselves!", and then gets up and walks to the last remaining table at the back of the restaurant, near the restrooms.The rest of us non-party customers begin clapping. The kids sit back down; the parents quiet their conversational roar for a few minutes, then begin over again./we left shortly afterward//our waitress apologized profusely for not paying as much attention to us as she normally did///we unders ...
liam76: bustemup: Just to clarify (since some people seem to still have it wrong), the 34.93 is before the 18% gratuity. You can tell because 18% of 34.93 is 6.29, had the 34.93 been after the 18% gratuity, then the gratuity would have been $5.33You don't give gratuity on taxes.what do taxes that have to do with anything? Lowering the subtotal simply makes it even clearer that gratuity wasn't included. It is mathematically impossible for $34.93 to include an 18% gratuity of $6.29 on anything.let me put it this way. for an 18% gratuity on a subtotal to be $6.29, the subtotal was about $34.93 (well, about that due to rounding). So it clearly didn't include the gratuity.
FuryOfFirestorm: If you're too cheap to leave a tip, then don't bother going out to eat. Funny how a lot of these assholes gladly drop $300 for dinner and $200 on a bottle of wine, but can't "afford" to leave at least a 10% tip. I always leave a 20% when I go out, unless the waiter had a nasty attitude or stood around texting on an iPhone instead of taking my order.There should be a level of Hell reserved for people who leave those stupid religious tracts in lieu of a tip.
06Wahoo: One thing that wasn't in that post nor seems to have been questioned yet is the quality of service. I know 20 people is a lot and it can be tough on waiters, but that isn't an excuse for bad service. If this guy got good service, he isn't really in a position to feel too indignant, but if he was treated like crap, why should he have to give a tip? Without more details, I think this is just a bunch of people wanting to find a reason to whine about Christians by looking at one example that we still know very few little about.
Neondistraction: maskedloser: jayhawk88: Having a receipt that suggests 18% on a $35 bill is sort of ridiculous. Fix your computer.It was an auto-gratuity: The pastard was eating with a party of 20 and the picture appears to be his portion of that larger bill. If he had a problem with the tip, he should have spoken with the manager instead of stiffing the guy making $5/h. What a farking douchebag.He probably doesn't even make that much. Most servers are paid $2.13 per hour.
AverageAmericanGuy: a receipt for $34.93 with an automatic gratuity of 18%fark that noise.
SuperNinjaToad: While there are obviously some crummy pastors out there, I find the story hard to believe. Either the whole thing was made up OR the customer wasn't really a pastor and was just trolling the wait staff to cultivate hate for Christians. Perhaps even a farker.
maskedloser: AnubisMan: Not going to defend this guy but he did tip 18% which is more than some farkers routinely tip... Also someone tell this dumbass putting Pastor on the receipt doesn't make a bit of differenceCheck the pic. He didn't tip 18%. He didn't tip at all. He drew in a big fat zero and argued that since God only required 10%, there's no reason why a waiter serving a party of 20 should get an extra $6 and change from the "good" pastor.
Da Bum: Pay the waitstaff a fair wage and get rid of the tipping system. It's annoying and I hate paying the salary directly to waitstaff. It's not my fault that they chose a crappy line of work where they depend on the generosity of others to help them make ends meet.Yes, I can afford to tip. I choose not to buy into that system. And if I'm a part of a large group, half the time I'll grab a table that is separate but right next to them to bypass the "auto gratuity".
Salt Lick Steady: God, I can't make it through all the comments debating whether the "total" amount included the 18% gratuity.Really, people. Seriously.$6.29 is 18% of what? There's your answer.
The My Little Pony Killer: jayhawk88: Having a receipt that suggests 18% on a $35 bill is sort of ridiculous. Fix your computer.He was with a large group that warranted the 18%. Fix your reading comprehension.
Lord Dimwit: AbbeySomeone: This guy is a dick and yes, I believe it is real.Worst tippers - middle aged church ladies.I remember working at Subway in high school and college and having the after church crowd order their food and pay, and then tell me I'm a sinner for working on the Sabbath and refusing to tip.
Off2403: While I do somewhat question this story's legitimacy just due to the frequency of shiatty tipping stories coming out of the woodwork
stuhayes2010: I think most of these tip stories are fake.
orbister: maskedloser: It was an auto-gratuity: The pastard was eating with a party of 20 and the picture appears to be his portion of that larger bill. If he had a problem with the tip, he should have spoken with the manager instead of stiffing the guy making $5/h. What a farking douchebag.His point, I think, was that 18% was sufficiently greedy to merit 0% as a rebuke. I'm ok with that.
sigdiamond2000: Why does God need money?
Endive Wombat: If restaurants were to pay their wait staff say $12 per hour, your meal would go up much more than a blanket 20%. (I do not have any links to articles)
fredklein: ::sigh:::Thisthreadagain.jpgTipping is a scam.It's a scam on the employees: It allows the (for example) restaurant owner to offload personnel problems onto the customers ("I don't have to discipline the bad waiters, the customers will just not tip them"). It allows him to pay shiat wages to his staff (*ching* more money in his pocket!). And it allows him to offer lower prices because he has virtually no payroll expense (lower prices= more customers = more work for the waitstaff, but *ching* more money in the owners pocket). It's also disadvantageous for the waiter, because eh can never tell how much he'll be earning- a good week might be $400, a bad week might be $100. How do you plan for expenses??It's a scam on the customer: Customers see a good price for food, only to pay 10%, 15%, 20% more at the end.And it's extortion, plain and simple; pay me, or I'll mess with your food.The solution is obvious- pay waiters (and other tipped positions) a FAIR wage, and do away with tipping.
Faddy: The pastor tipped 18%, if he didn't want to tip he got screwed over by the automatic gratuity (restaurants please look up gratuity in the dictionary)He could have paid the $28 just for his food and drink an walked away without paying more.If everyone agrees 15% is at least the right amount add it to the cost of food, provide better wages and get rid of mandatory tipping.
philotech: TFA states he ran up a $200 bill with a party of 8 or more... Why is the check for 34.00? I smell shenanigans...
No Such Agency: maskedloser:Check the pic. He didn't tip 18%. He didn't tip at all. He drew in a big fat zero and argued that since God only required 10%, there's no reason why a waiter serving a party of 20 should get an extra $6 and change from the "good" pastor.If it's an automatic gratuity, his little scribble shouldn't have made any difference. It's part of the bill just like the food. That's what sort of confuses me here.
maskedloser: jayhawk88: Having a receipt that suggests 18% on a $35 bill is sort of ridiculous. Fix your computer.It was an auto-gratuity: The pastard was eating with a party of 20 and the picture appears to be his portion of that larger bill. If he had a problem with the tip, he should have spoken with the manager instead of stiffing the guy making $5/h. What a farking douchebag.
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