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Dragonflew		2013-01-29 09:45:37 PM

Well, that is about the rate they add new movies, at least for the Canadian version. Luckily I have a VPN.

Tarkus		2013-01-29 11:37:54 PM

I'd be happy if they just added 5 NEW movies a month.

zerkalo		2013-01-30 01:25:58 AM

If cable doesn't move to ala carte channel selections they may make it

Genevieve Marie		2013-01-30 01:26:04 AM

if they do original content as well as HBO does, I'll be incredibly impressed.

They should look at doing some adaptations of John Green novels- those would be excellent to watch. I think The Fault in Our Stars has already been purchased, but Paper Towns would be great to watch.

IlGreven		2013-01-30 01:29:47 AM

Tarkus: I'd be happy if they just added 5 NEW movies a month.

Oh, they do; they just don't advertise them unless they're blockbusters. And for those you'll have to wait 28 days.

coeyagi		2013-01-30 01:30:29 AM

coeyagi, movies you might enjoy:

1) Some dogshiat direct-to-DVD action flick starring Dolph Lundgren
2) Some dogshiat direct-to-DVD action flick starring Cuba Gooding Jr.
3) Phantoms starring Ben Affleck
4) Some dogshiat direct-to-DVD action flick starring Ray Liotta.
5) Gigli.

Nice algorithm you got going there, Lou.

Genevieve Marie		2013-01-30 01:33:49 AM

IlGreven: Tarkus: I'd be happy if they just added 5 NEW movies a month.

Oh, they do; they just don't advertise them unless they're blockbusters. And for those you'll have to wait 28 days.

They just added a TON of older Disney movies. I was really excited- I got to watch The Rescuers for the first time since I was a kid.

lelio		2013-01-30 01:38:19 AM

if they do original content as well as HBO does, I'll be incredibly impressed.

Same here. But they won't. They are a distribution company that doesn't really know about creating content. It isn't something that you can just buy off the street, no matter how they think they can do it.

Also the egos involved that are required to run a studio isn't going to mesh well with the rest of the company where everyone else probably thinks they could make a couple of shows a year, easy.

But who knows, SyFy did have Battlestar Gallactica. There must have been some sort of glitch in the matrix for that show to continue on that horrible channel.

MadSkillz		2013-01-30 01:38:25 AM

Dragonflew: Well, that is about the rate they add new movies, at least for the Canadian version. Luckily I have a VPN.

Hahah I have Canadian Netflix too!

What I like is the blog "What's New on Netflix Canada". Unfortunately every couple of days they buy the rights to a bunch of worthless movies in Hindi. The movies typically suck ass and the language isn't sexy. I'll watch movies in Mandarin or Japanese or pretty much any European language(not Welsh), but oh god these Indian movies suuuuck.

/waiting for OTHER science fiction shows to show up. (other Trek shows? Please?)
//I know that the broadcast rights were being held up by Bell for a lot of them as they wanted to buy another company and set up a competitor to Netflix, which probably would've cost more and had less content and some forced commercials.
///I haven't delved into the VPN->USA thing because the whole thing is sort of a grey area. I'm held to an extremely high ethical standard for my profession and if it were to become outright "illegal", I'd hate to lose my job because I wanted to watch some shiatty TV shows.

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist		2013-01-30 01:38:36 AM

Their whole production strategy is idiotic. People subscribe to Netflix so that they can wait for other people to do the dirty work of watching, criticizing, and rating television shows. "I'll catch it on Netflix" isn't some affirmative, marketing bullshiat. If something is decent, it'll show up on Netflix sooner or later, and I'll just burn through the whole series then. Nobody's going to sit around on a Tuesday night waiting for the next streaming episode of House of Cards to be released. If anything, they'll just wait until they entire series has been released, then watch it based on whether or not the algorithm thinks they'll like it... like they do with every other farking show on your service, Netflix, you dumb farks.

moothemagiccow		2013-01-30 01:43:23 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Nobody's going to sit around on a Tuesday night waiting for the next streaming episode of House of Cards to be released.

The entire season of House of Cards will be released this Friday

//you really think they didn't think of this?

Genevieve Marie		2013-01-30 01:45:22 AM

lelio: Same here. But they won't. They are a distribution company that doesn't really know about creating content. It isn't something that you can just buy off the street, no matter how they think they can do it.

Well, they are bringing us new episodes of Arrested Development. You have to admit, that's pretty impressive.

coeyagi		2013-01-30 01:45:45 AM

lelio: if they do original content as well as HBO does, I'll be incredibly impressed.

Same here. But they won't. They are a distribution company that doesn't really know about creating content. It isn't something that you can just buy off the street, no matter how they think they can do it.

Also the egos involved that are required to run a studio isn't going to mesh well with the rest of the company where everyone else probably thinks they could make a couple of shows a year, easy.

But who knows, SyFy did have Battlestar Gallactica. There must have been some sort of glitch in the matrix for that show to continue on that horrible channel.

It's about building credibility and critical mass. Where the hell did AMC come from all of a sudden? A few hit shows and now production companies are signing up with AMC big time. Not saying Netflix can do it, but they need a hit, and then need to have a few more hits in quick succession to make it a viable plan.

Dibikad		2013-01-30 01:46:44 AM

Bring back Better off Ted

Supes		2013-01-30 01:51:21 AM

Tarkus: I'd be happy if they just added 5 NEW movies a month.

They're adding movies all the time, just most of them are crap. Here's a list of new titles, with the newest first. Looks like about 30 added in the past week. And here's a list of new titles upcoming (though that list is never perfect, usually there's more titles that aren't on there).

The problem isn't the lack of quantity or lack of new titles. The problem is the lack of quality.

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist		2013-01-30 01:56:22 AM

moothemagiccow: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Nobody's going to sit around on a Tuesday night waiting for the next streaming episode of House of Cards to be released.

The entire season of House of Cards will be released this Friday

//you really think they didn't think of this?

With the way they've been running their company lately, I honestly thought they were going to do one a week (or something even dumber).

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist		2013-01-30 01:58:02 AM

Genevieve Marie: Well, they are bringing us new episodes of Arrested Development. You have to admit, that's pretty impressive.

It's going to suck, and I say that as a diehard lover of Arrested Development.

It won't be the same.

Mad_Radhu		2013-01-30 02:05:22 AM

MadSkillz: What I like is the blog "What's New on Netflix Canada". Unfortunately every couple of days they buy the rights to a bunch of worthless movies in Hindi. The movies typically suck ass and the language isn't sexy. I'll watch movies in Mandarin or Japanese or pretty much any European language(not Welsh), but oh god these Indian movies suuuuck

You're watching the wrong Indian movies.

Doogled		2013-01-30 02:17:10 AM

Bring it back, and we'll talk.

Tron-tonian		2013-01-30 02:20:21 AM

The addition of Disney should keep them well-stocked for quite some time.

Granted, I say that as a parent, but Disney has a lot under it, including ABC and, more recently, Star Wars. Be nice to see them start moving that content over as it becomes available....

/Canuck
//US feed

corq		2013-01-30 02:26:02 AM

<a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="<a href=" http:="" instantwatcher.com="" titles="" 189502"="" target="_blank">The Man From Beijing. from that list is looking pretty good, and compared to a great deal of american made noir; you're missing out if you're not at least sampling some of those Asian/Scandinavian titles. Henning Makell titles are getting plenty of notice from BBC as they have been adapting his Wallander series with Kenneth Branaugh for several seasons. Do yourself a favor and queue up some of the original Scandinavian titles, you won't be sorry.

US movie studios are squeezing Netflix by metering what they'll release to them etc, etc. Meanwhile, I've been checking out their rapidly expanding foreign titles that netflix is getting in reciprocal deals for getting into those markets as a service. This is an excellent strategy IMO.

For my taste, the domestic movie market has been pretty 'meh' for a while with all their reboots of better film I grew up seeing already. Foreign titles is where Netflix is beginning to shine and set themselves apart, and it's keeping my viewing pretty interesting. You just have to know what you're looking for, or step outside your comfort zone and try something new once in a while.

corq		2013-01-30 02:27:13 AM

//pardon the urlbarf.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom		2013-01-30 02:47:49 AM

I remember when Netflix had a much more user-friendly search feature, where you could even filter by release date and see all the new movies added to the site in a given week. Much better than whatever 75 randomly chosen movies they add to the genre categories.

Wayne 985		2013-01-30 02:58:03 AM

I just signed up for Netflix's DVD service, and I'm still catching up with slightly older movies I haven't seen. Because I'm bored, here's my queue:

[MIB 3 was first and already returned.]
1. The Aviator
2. The Grey
3. Cowboys and Aliens
4. Rise of the Planet of the Apes
5. Star Trek
6. The Fighter
7. Milk
8. The Cabin in the Woods
9. Dredd
10. Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy

Five of those are 2012 releases. I don't know what qualifies as "new", per se, but Netflix is doing pretty well by me thus far. Heck, Dredd was released not even a month ago on DVD.

Apik0r0s		2013-01-30 03:06:30 AM

corq: <a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="<a href=" http:="" instantwatcher.com="" titles="" 189502"="" target="_blank">The Man From Beijing. from that list is looking pretty good, and compared to a great deal of american made noir; you're missing out if you're not at least sampling some of those Asian/Scandinavian titles. Henning Makell titles are getting plenty of notice from BBC as they have been adapting his Wallander series with Kenneth Branaugh for several seasons. Do yourself a favor and queue up some of the original Scandinavian titles, you won't be sorry.

US movie studios are squeezing Netflix by metering what they'll release to them etc, etc. Meanwhile, I've been checking out their rapidly expanding foreign titles that netflix is getting in reciprocal deals for getting into those markets as a service. This is an excellent strategy IMO.

For my taste, the domestic movie market has been pretty 'meh' for a while with all their reboots of better film I grew up seeing already. Foreign titles is where Netflix is beginning to shine and set themselves apart, and it's keeping my viewing pretty interesting. You just have to know what you're looking for, or step outside your comfort zone and try something new once in a while.

www.imfdb.org

The Man From Nowhere did it for me, as far as getting me to look at foreign films. I swear this is the greatest action flick ever made, and every bit the quality of any turd Hollywood pinches off these days. Smilla's Sense of Snow and any of the The Girl With The... movies are great too. As near as I can tell, the worse movies in the world are made in whatever remains of the English Empire.

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist		2013-01-30 03:10:06 AM

Wayne 985: Five of those are 2012 releases. I don't know what qualifies as "new", per se, but Netflix is doing pretty well by me thus far. Heck, Dredd was released not even a month ago on DVD

When people complain about Netflix, it's usually about their streaming catalogue. Granted I love it because I can watch documentaries and foreign flicks all day, but that's about it as far as it goes. I think I rewatched Thor the other night as one of their recently added blockbusters. Thor and Iron Man are the movies that keep popping up as evidence that Netflix streaming isn't garbage, and they came out like three years ago and weren't all that good to begin.

The other day I was trying to find something to watch with my niece that wasn't Bubble Guppies (creation of the devil) and I googled "best netflix streaming kids movies" or something like that. I ran through a list of movies like The Iron Giant, Up, Monsters Inc., and a bunch of other classic Disney and Pixar movies. Turns out none of the movies that I was excited about were still streaming, so I just turned on some cartoon from the eighties that I remembered fondly.

That just about sums up Netflix streaming.

Wayne 985		2013-01-30 03:15:56 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Wayne 985: Five of those are 2012 releases. I don't know what qualifies as "new", per se, but Netflix is doing pretty well by me thus far. Heck, Dredd was released not even a month ago on DVD

When people complain about Netflix, it's usually about their streaming catalogue. Granted I love it because I can watch documentaries and foreign flicks all day, but that's about it as far as it goes. I think I rewatched Thor the other night as one of their recently added blockbusters. Thor and Iron Man are the movies that keep popping up as evidence that Netflix streaming isn't garbage, and they came out like three years ago and weren't all that good to begin.

The other day I was trying to find something to watch with my niece that wasn't Bubble Guppies (creation of the devil) and I googled "best netflix streaming kids movies" or something like that. I ran through a list of movies like The Iron Giant, Up, Monsters Inc., and a bunch of other classic Disney and Pixar movies. Turns out none of the movies that I was excited about were still streaming, so I just turned on some cartoon from the eighties that I remembered fondly.

That just about sums up Netflix streaming.

Fair point. My brother has a Netflix streaming account and I have his password... And I've watched maybe a couple movies on it. That selection is pretty minimal, but I always thought of it as a "side dish" to the main course (DVDs).

murderguy		2013-01-30 03:19:22 AM

Supes: Tarkus: I'd be happy if they just added 5 NEW movies a month.

They're adding movies all the time, just most of them are crap. Here's a list of new titles, with the newest first. Looks like about 30 added in the past week. And here's a list of new titles upcoming (though that list is never perfect, usually there's more titles that aren't on there).

The problem isn't the lack of quantity or lack of new titles. The problem is the lack of quality.

Thank you so much. I knew there must be sites with this info, but I hadn't found them. I appreciate it.

browntimmy		2013-01-30 03:28:28 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Their whole production strategy is idiotic. People subscribe to Netflix so that they can wait for other people to do the dirty work of watching, criticizing, and rating television shows. "I'll catch it on Netflix" isn't some affirmative, marketing bullshiat. If something is decent, it'll show up on Netflix sooner or later, and I'll just burn through the whole series then. Nobody's going to sit around on a Tuesday night waiting for the next streaming episode of House of Cards to be released. If anything, they'll just wait until they entire series has been released, then watch it based on whether or not the algorithm thinks they'll like it... like they do with every other farking show on your service, Netflix, you dumb farks.

I remember reading somewhere that they're releasing all the Arrested Development episodes at once. Whatever they do it's a hell of a lot better than HBO's strategy of only being available to people who want to pay $100 a month for cable or wait an entire year for the DVDs to come out.

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist		2013-01-30 03:32:28 AM

Wayne 985: Fair point. My brother has a Netflix streaming account and I have his password... And I've watched maybe a couple movies on it. That selection is pretty minimal, but I always thought of it as a "side dish" to the main course (DVDs).

It used to be, before the executives at Netflix got amped up on methamphetamines and tried to split the company into two parts, Netflix and Flixter (or some equally stupid shiat). For the longest time I had both a DVD and a streaming account, since it was like a couple bucks either way to upgrade to the other. Then they split them apart and made them priced equally, and everyone chose sides. Did they watch enough DVDs in a month to make it worth the price, or was the convenience of streaming more than enough to make up for the lack of selection? It's worthwhile to note that streaming used to have a pretty decent selection all-around. After Netflix chased the dragon it has gradually returned to the state it was when it first launched, so unless you like shiatty American direct-to-video movies and PBS documentaries, you're shiat out of luck.

TheJoe03		2013-01-30 03:46:15 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: After Netflix chased the dragon it has gradually returned to the state it was when it first launched, so unless you like shiatty American direct-to-video movies and PBS documentaries, you're shiat out of luck.

They got a good collection of TV shows (and are adding Adult Swim stuff and FX has been putting more content up) and now they got a bunch of Disney movies. Seems they are improving in the movie department, they were pretty bad a year or so ago.

BullBearMS		2013-01-30 04:58:41 AM

I really do think that this is a genius move for companies that want to make streaming video available at an affordable price. If the rights holders for the current networks and movie studios won't allow their content to join the party, then do a complete end run around them.

There are plenty of talented people in the world who can create entertaining content. We don't have to give the networks, studios, and cable/satellite companies a big ass cut of the action anymore.

Paleorific		2013-01-30 05:01:12 AM

Instantwatcher is kind of a must go to site if you have Netflix. Very handy.

"Lilyhammer" was a pretty good Netflix original series.

There are some really top-notch foreign movies, especially from Korea and China of all genres.

gadian		2013-01-30 05:09:11 AM

I'm primarily using Netflix for burning through TV shows I used to watch or heard good things about. I just got all caught up on Supernatural (right before they yanked it from streaming, go me) and now I'm burning through Breaking Bad. It's a great way for me to have noise when everyone else is asleep. I can't say as I've had much trouble with their movie selection. I've really enjoyed a lot of what I've pulled up just because it was there, so I've even gone a little out of my comfort zone. But, I don't know what movies are cool and new, I just find that their little star rating thing is a pretty accurate indicator for me.

What I've been rambling, trying to say is that, I'm pleased enough with the Netflix service that I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to producing their own shiat. Though I'd urge them to go for quality over quantity.

doczoidberg		2013-01-30 06:55:21 AM

Wake me up when they offer hard core porn.

BalugaJoe		2013-01-30 07:04:01 AM

House of Cards is not new. It is based on a UK tv show.

dragonchild		2013-01-30 07:31:29 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Their whole production strategy is idiotic. People subscribe to Netflix so that they can wait for other people to do the dirty work of watching, criticizing, and rating television shows.

I think the point is that they're trying to change that, and building up their library by cooperating with other content distributors has clearly not been working.

I'm with everyone that thinks they have no idea what they're doing (they've also been trying to become their own CDN), but I can at least see the outline of a forward-thinking market strategy here.

KatjaMouse		2013-01-30 07:42:06 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Nobody's going to sit around on a Tuesday night waiting for the next streaming episode of House of Cards to be released. If anything, they'll just wait until they entire series has been released

The entire series was released on the same day. As was Lilyhammer. And they plan the same thing for Arrested Development.

YodaBlues		2013-01-30 07:44:11 AM

coeyagi: 3) Phantoms starring Ben Affleck

Affleck was the bomb in phantoms, yo!

/Do something.

limeyfellow		2013-01-30 07:58:51 AM

Alas I can't have netflix due to the pathetically small bandwidth limitations on AT&T. 1 or 2 movies a week would go over the limits and so they get away with trying to destoy other streaming services to protect their own network monopoly in the area.

Pick		2013-01-30 07:58:53 AM

Dropped 'Flix. Got tired of watching movies from 10 years ago.

verbaltoxin		2013-01-30 08:00:37 AM

Netflix has slowly but surely proven its worth. Scoring Disney was a real coup. My friends have kids and Netflix is a godsend for them. My wife is working through all of Doctor Who, and I love finding whatever obscure, old horror movie I can find.

/Now if they'd just get "Watcher in the Woods" on there.

bossuniversalAA		2013-01-30 08:08:53 AM

since cable television is conditioning the masses for poverty, (i.e. pawn shops, junkers, storage auctions, repossession). then jail and rehab.television shows where people with blue collar jobs is some how considered entertainment, might as well put a t.v. show about the homeless or soup kitchens and the sad cases that have to eat there.

if you want to experience some hardcore shiat with out having to go to prison., volunteer at a soup kitchen.

Disposable Rob		2013-01-30 08:19:55 AM

BalugaJoe: House of Cards is not new. It is based on a UK tv show.

So are most of the top-rated shows in America. What else is new?

Tommy Moo		2013-01-30 08:21:36 AM

This makes me nervous. If they get into routinely producing high budget, multi-season shows, subscription rates are going to have to go up to pay for that. I wouldn't mind going to $10 or even $15 / month if they are pumping out four or five like The Wire, Breaking Bad, etc. But I don't want the money I'm spending to watch Sons of Anarchy and Arrested Development to go to subsidizing mediocre dreck.

CarnySaur		2013-01-30 08:41:51 AM

They should probably wait to see how Arrested Development and House of Cards play out before making grandiose statements like that.

Carth		2013-01-30 08:45:21 AM

CarnySaur: They should probably wait to see how Arrested Development and House of Cards play out before making grandiose statements like that.

No, they should invest a ton of money in a new show based on the firefly universe.

meanmutton		2013-01-30 08:49:08 AM

zerkalo: If cable doesn't move to ala carte channel selections they may make it

I don't understand the fetish for a la carte cable. You do know that you're not going to save any money, right?

meanmutton		2013-01-30 08:51:22 AM

Tron-tonian: The addition of Disney should keep them well-stocked for quite some time.

Granted, I say that as a parent, but Disney has a lot under it, including ABC and, more recently, Star Wars. Be nice to see them start moving that content over as it becomes available....

/Canuck
//US feed

Phineas and Ferb alone is worth the price of Netflix.

Carth		2013-01-30 08:58:04 AM

meanmutton: zerkalo: If cable doesn't move to ala carte channel selections they may make it

I don't understand the fetish for a la carte cable. You do know that you're not going to save any money, right?

If you want two channels you probably will. Unless a la carte raises prices to $40 a channel.

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