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2013-01-29 09:40:52 PM  
Yay guns!
 
2013-01-29 09:41:07 PM  
Boobies
 
2013-01-29 09:41:13 PM  
And here's your daily anti-gun story.

What's this guy's connection with the US government? Ex-marine? Ex-CIA agent?
 
2013-01-29 09:41:39 PM  
So now we have to outlaw hostages?
 
2013-01-29 09:41:46 PM  
If the driver was allowed to carry an assault rifle, this never would have happened. Thanks Obama.
 
2013-01-29 09:42:07 PM  

I Have Assumed Control: Boobies


Ahhhhhhahahaha!
 
2013-01-29 09:42:12 PM  
I'm sure it's another false-flag operation, the child is an actor, etc.
 
2013-01-29 09:42:16 PM  
Whoa, Dothan? Didn't think I'd ever see that towns name again after leaving Fort Rucker. Crazy.
 
2013-01-29 09:43:08 PM  
If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!
 
2013-01-29 09:43:38 PM  
don't worry - the NRA has a rapid response unit ready to deploy at any time and all hours in order to protect the rights of nutball gun owners from gun grabbing libruls!

*whew*.

dodged that one!
 
2013-01-29 09:43:42 PM  
So just another Tuesday in Alabama then?
 
2013-01-29 09:44:20 PM  

Nina Haagen Dazs: So now we have to outlaw hostages?


No. Just six year olds.
 
2013-01-29 09:44:25 PM  
FTA: Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard

WELL!  I mean after THAT clearly a 2nd Amendment solution was absolutely NECESSARY.
 
2013-01-29 09:44:28 PM  
WTF is wrong with people?
 
2013-01-29 09:44:39 PM  
Someone needs to make this illegal, and FAST.
 
2013-01-29 09:44:41 PM  
Oh man.  This is a guy who went so far as to prep an underground bunker on his property.  I'm guessing everything in the area is already boobie-trapped.
This won't end well.
 
2013-01-29 09:44:41 PM  
Where's Dirty Harry when you need him?
 
2013-01-29 09:44:57 PM  
Jimmy Lee Dykes

of course that's his name.
 
2013-01-29 09:45:20 PM  
solution to a school bus hijacking:

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2013-01-29 09:45:22 PM  
FTFA: James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, told the Dothan Eagle that Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff's Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing.

And yet he still had a gun

/why?
 
2013-01-29 09:45:23 PM  
All bus drivers should be armed.
 
2013-01-29 09:45:31 PM  
Pop quiz, hotshot.
 
2013-01-29 09:45:44 PM  
He's headed down to David Koreshville.
 
2013-01-29 09:45:45 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: And here's your daily anti-gun story.

What's this guy's connection with the US government? Ex-marine? Ex-CIA agent?


You seem to equate a small, local news outlet reporting on something rather shocking to ALL of the mass media outlets running this story 24/7. It's tiresome.
 
2013-01-29 09:45:51 PM  
If the Demorats weren't going to take our guns away he wouldn't have felt the urgency to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights.
 
2013-01-29 09:46:26 PM  
Oh hey look, let's post snarky comments about being trendily anti-gun! Not like actually worry about someone's child who's in a horrible situation or someone's father/son/brother who's heading to ICU...

Crap, I'm on fark, what am I thinkin'? How big was the gun's clip? Did it have assault bullets? If only our busses had bulletproof windows and panic rooms.
 
2013-01-29 09:46:27 PM  
Holy shiat. I definately don't see this ending well, but pray it does.
 
2013-01-29 09:46:28 PM  

penthesilea: Oh man.  This is a guy who went so far as to prep an underground bunker on his property.  I'm guessing everything in the area is already boobie-trapped.
This won't end well.


Lots of gunnuts have bunkers, nothing special about that.
 
2013-01-29 09:46:35 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: FTFA: James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, told the Dothan Eagle that Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff's Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing.

And yet he still had a gun

/why?


Probably because he's only been charged, not convicted.
 
2013-01-29 09:47:11 PM  
The article doesn't say which of the players (if any) are black and which are inbred rednecks. How do I know who to pull for?

Go to hell, oppressors!
 
2013-01-29 09:47:11 PM  
Now if the 6 year old was armed, this would have never happened.  Concealed carry works.
 
2013-01-29 09:47:14 PM  
Aw geez, not this shiat again...
 
2013-01-29 09:47:33 PM  
Anybody want to stop for a bag of boiled nuts?
 
2013-01-29 09:47:37 PM  
Took the "Dothan" route from Clearwater, FL up to Bloomington, IN one year instead of just doing I-75 to I-24 to I-65. It's a few hundred miles shorter but takes way longer.

Best thing I remember about Dothan -- hot boiled peanuts some guy just got done making outside his roadside restaurant. Also, there's this store on your way through that sells awesome bonsai trees. Still want to drive through there again and get one.
 
2013-01-29 09:47:47 PM  
I'm sure there's some sort of legislation that could have prevented this.
 
2013-01-29 09:47:49 PM  
Many Dothans died to bring us this headline.

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2013-01-29 09:47:53 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Lots of gunnuts have bunkers, nothing special about that.


so since few gun owners have bunkers, you're conceding that 99.9% of all gun owners are no longer nuts?
 
2013-01-29 09:48:22 PM  
The bus pulled in

ursomniac: FTA: Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard


Did the bus pull into his driveway?
 
2013-01-29 09:48:23 PM  
All Dale County and Ozark City Schools will be closed Wednesday.

Well that's one way to get a day off.
 
2013-01-29 09:48:27 PM  
There you go, just assuming that "shot" means "shot with a gun." It could just mean that he was shooting hoops.
 
2013-01-29 09:48:35 PM  

DoctorCal: Anybody want to stop for a bag of boiled nuts?


lol, read my mind!
 
2013-01-29 09:48:39 PM  
So that would a total of like four teeth involved in all of this?
 
2013-01-29 09:48:44 PM  

Demetrius: All bus drivers six year olds should be armed.

 
2013-01-29 09:48:49 PM  
it's a really big-ass country with a lot of people in it.  shiat's gonna happen.  But Midland CIty, AL, Aurora, CO, Sandy Hook, CT?--they might was well be different countries.  And if this were Europe--they would be.  So it's not like there's some crisis happening in your backyard.  Well, unless you live in Chicago.  Then it might be.

Sorry about that.
 
2013-01-29 09:48:57 PM  

doyner: If the Demorats weren't going to take our guns away he wouldn't have felt the urgency to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights.


Good on you for getting a jump on the trolling. This will surely net you more bites as yet another Fark Gun Thread™ devolves into a sh*tstorm of name-calling, poo-flinging, and general chicanery.

Good luck!
 
2013-01-29 09:49:03 PM  

syrynxx: I'm sure there's some sort of legislation that could have prevented this.


Duh, kids should be homeschooled and not exposed to that hippy liberal sozialist crap that they have to leave the safety of their homes and bibles for.
 
2013-01-29 09:49:05 PM  

error 303: Whoa, Dothan? Didn't think I'd ever see that towns name again after leaving Fort Rucker. Crazy.


Dothan? Dammit I used to live in Enterprise. Stupid Alabama.
 
2013-01-29 09:49:25 PM  
Did I miss it in TFA? Is the Bus Driver OK? I mean, good on 'em for being defiant, but besides "being shot", what happened, how bad are they?

/And: "Who is the Bus Driver"?
 
2013-01-29 09:49:26 PM  
Shoot the hostage.
That's what I learned on TV.
 
2013-01-29 09:49:38 PM  
Oddly, I am in Dothan for work and I just drove by there earlier today. Wait- what if this is me doing this? Dammit.
 
2013-01-29 09:49:49 PM  
When did Alabama get schools?
 
2013-01-29 09:50:04 PM  
Davis said Dykes has lived at a residence on Private Road 1539 for about a year. He said Dykes constructed a "bunker" behind the residence with a PVC pipe leading to the back end of the residence.
"It's the craziest thing. He will be outside in his yard digging dirt at 2:30 in the morning," Davis, Jr. told the Eagle.


Maybe the cops can use the PVC pipe to send in nerve gas or something and peacefully resolve the situation. Who am I kidding this guy is going to get shot at least 20 times simultaneously no matter what.
 
2013-01-29 09:50:06 PM  

cavedonkey: /And: "Who is the Bus Driver"?


John Galt
 
2013-01-29 09:50:07 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: FTFA: James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, told the Dothan Eagle that Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff's Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing.

And yet he still had a gun

/why?


WTF? Second amendment that's why! It's the kid fault. If the six year old's second amendment rights weren't being trampled on by Obama himself, then she would no doubt have been packing, but it was nonetheless her duty as an American to have had that gun so she could prepare for the tyrannical federal government.. And she didn't.

/assumed it's a she. poor little girl.
 
2013-01-29 09:50:17 PM  

kronicfeld: There you go, just assuming that "shot" means "shot with a gun." It could just mean that he was shooting hoops.


Or shot with an arrow.

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2013-01-29 09:50:25 PM  
This armed society is getting more and more polite each day.
 
2013-01-29 09:50:28 PM  
Came for Dirty Harry.

BTW, the bad guy in the movie didn't shoot the bus driver, just knocked her out. Blame violent entertainment all you want but I can't think of any movies or games as bad as what real-life psychos are doing these days.
 
2013-01-29 09:50:42 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: When did Alabama get schools?


Thread over. Everyone else go home. I'm sure the eruption of laughter in a quiet office turned some heads.

Ahem..as you were.
 
2013-01-29 09:51:51 PM  

Nem Wan: BTW, the bad guy in the movie didn't shoot the bus driver, just knocked her out. Blame violent entertainment all you want but I can't think of any movies or games as bad as what real-life psychos are doing these days.


I dunno dude, did you see Mulan? Biatch be genocidin some Huns... and that's a KIDS movie.
 
2013-01-29 09:52:00 PM  

syrynxx: I'm sure there's some sort of legislation that could have prevented this.


Mandatory armed guards on every schoolbus (and outside every bunker.)
 
2013-01-29 09:52:14 PM  
I totally blame violent video games for this sort of thing.  Obviously, we NEED to ban Civilization V!  it leads to excessive violence of the most extreme sort.
 
2013-01-29 09:52:21 PM  
Oh no......
 
2013-01-29 09:52:28 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: When did Alabama get schools?


In 8th grade my gym coach was also my science teacher. We still had to call him "Coach". Or Sir.
 
2013-01-29 09:52:36 PM  

NittLion78: Many Dothans died to bring us this headline.

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Awesome
 
2013-01-29 09:52:38 PM  

MichiganFTL: KarmicDisaster: Lots of gunnuts have bunkers, nothing special about that.

so since few gun owners have bunkers, you're conceding that 99.9% of all gun owners are no longer nuts?


Didn't take you long to switch from "think about the poor child!!" did it?
 
2013-01-29 09:52:39 PM  
The man who is believed to be holed up in the Midland City hostage situation following a shooting on a school bus is Jimmy Lee Dykes, 65, who was scheduled to be in court Wednesday for a bench trial on a menacing charge.

My guess is that he's guilty.
 
2013-01-29 09:52:47 PM  
This is what happens when God isn't allowed on our school buses.
 
2013-01-29 09:52:54 PM  

doyner: If the Demorats weren't going to take our guns away court hadn't released him the first time he threatened someone with a gun he wouldn't have felt the urgency to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights been able to commit this crime with a gun too.


FTFY

FTA - "James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, told the Dothan Eagle that Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff's Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing."

This is what should have happened to him instead...

Link

Or

Link
 
2013-01-29 09:53:11 PM  

Eeek: Oddly, I am in Dothan for work and I just drove by there earlier today. Wait- what if this is me doing this? Dammit.


Hah! I didn't know that.
 
2013-01-29 09:53:22 PM  

mediablitz: Didn't take you long to switch from "think about the poor child!!" did it?


About 29 seconds, 2 clicks and an oreo.
 
2013-01-29 09:53:33 PM  

Nem Wan: Came for Dirty Harry.


Phrasing.
 
2013-01-29 09:53:51 PM  
But in the end the hostage-taker will get shot so I guess guns are a net good.

But he did shoot the bus driver, so I guess guns are neutral.

And at least two people will be dead, so I guess...

never mind.
 
2013-01-29 09:53:53 PM  
I think we all know what the bus driver's last words were.
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2013-01-29 09:54:05 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: The bus pulled inursomniac: FTA: Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard

Did the bus pull into his driveway?


That adds a sexual assault charge.
 
2013-01-29 09:54:31 PM  
Another responsible, law-abiding gun owner protecting us!
 
2013-01-29 09:55:10 PM  
For the love of all things holy, this nation needs mandatory Charm School.

You have shamed yourself again humanity.  It's easy to topple the brick tower in Romper Room and call youself the destroyer of worlds.

Try doing shiate that's cool for a change.
 
2013-01-29 09:55:26 PM  
If only there was a law against taking hostages, that poor child would be perfectly ok. Because laws prevent actions.
 
2013-01-29 09:55:30 PM  
Any relation to Judge Gladys Dykes?
/State v. Stoner.
 
2013-01-29 09:55:46 PM  
I wonder what type of gun he used. A Winchester .303 no doubt.
 
2013-01-29 09:56:31 PM  

KarmicDisaster: penthesilea: Oh man.  This is a guy who went so far as to prep an underground bunker on his property.  I'm guessing everything in the area is already boobie-trapped.
This won't end well.

Lots of gunnuts have bunkers, nothing special about that.


It's where they keep their well-regulated militias.
 
2013-01-29 09:56:32 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I wonder what type of gun he used. A Winchester .303 no doubt.


Duh! It was either an AR-15 or an AK-47.
 
2013-01-29 09:57:17 PM  

kronicfeld: Nem Wan: Came for Dirty Harry.

Phrasing.


Boom
 
2013-01-29 09:57:18 PM  
Alabama is definitely on my Top 50 list for Best States in the Union.
 
2013-01-29 09:58:02 PM  
People who turn tragic events into ways to forward their own agenda suck.
 
2013-01-29 09:58:20 PM  
This is exactly why we need to ban buses.
 
2013-01-29 09:58:22 PM  
A nut in an underground hut. This should end well.
 
2013-01-29 09:58:23 PM  
If all 6 year olds were allowed to carry concealed bazookas, this wouldn't have happened.
 
2013-01-29 09:58:30 PM  
...Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard...

WellThatEscalatedQuickly.jpg
 
2013-01-29 09:58:41 PM  
Omfg.
Wtf is wrong with people?
I'm rooting for the next plague.
 
2013-01-29 09:58:58 PM  

pxlboy: cameroncrazy1984: I wonder what type of gun he used. A Winchester .303 no doubt.

Duh! It was either an AR-15 or an AK-47.


It could have been a Glock.
 
2013-01-29 09:59:05 PM  

FinFangFark: This is exactly why we need to bang buses.

 
2013-01-29 09:59:08 PM  

Weaver95: I totally blame violent video games for this sort of thing. Obviously, we NEED to ban Civilization V! it leads to excessive violence of the most extreme sort.


Can we ban Doomsday Preppers from TV as well?
 
2013-01-29 09:59:09 PM  

MichiganFTL: Oh hey look, let's post snarky comments about being trendily anti-gun! Not like actually worry about someone's child who's in a horrible situation or someone's father/son/brother who's heading to ICU...

Crap, I'm on fark, what am I thinkin'? How big was the gun's clip? Did it have assault bullets? If only our busses had bulletproof windows and panic rooms.


To be fair, when I was a kid I'd have liked to have had access to a panic room on the school bus.
 
2013-01-29 09:59:19 PM  

LazerFish: People who turn tragic events into ways to forward their own agenda suck.


Especially when that agenda is to avoid tragic events!
 
2013-01-29 09:59:23 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: And here's your daily anti-gun story.

What's this guy's connection with the US government? Ex-marine? Ex-CIA agent?


A secret agent? cause that's what I am!

//bonus if you get the reference
 
2013-01-29 09:59:29 PM  

Surool: If all 6 year olds were allowed to carry concealed bazookas, this wouldn't have happened.


Backpazooka. Thanks for the idea for a new product.
 
2013-01-29 09:59:33 PM  

LazerFish: People who turn tragic events into ways to forward their own agenda suck.


Except that everyone not associated with the incident will do this whether they have a valid point or not. People are opportunistic dickholes, what can you do?
 
2013-01-29 10:00:11 PM  
As long as no one gets their gun taken away, we'll have a happy ending!
 
2013-01-29 10:00:37 PM  

Weaver95: Obviously, we NEED to ban Civilization V!


I am constantly asked why I NEED a trebuchet.  People ask me to download mods with reasonable restrictions on siege weapons, but I say they're in the original rules and I'm not compromising.
 
2013-01-29 10:00:37 PM  

untaken_name: If only there was a law against taking hostages, that poor child would be perfectly ok. Because laws prevent actions.


There are laws against taking hostages.

And they impede the rights of the majority of people who don't take hostages.
 
2013-01-29 10:00:46 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: LazerFish: People who turn tragic events into ways to forward their own agenda suck.

Especially when that agenda is to avoid tragic events!


Why oppose war only when there is a war?
 
2013-01-29 10:01:06 PM  

illannoyin: doyner: If the Demorats weren't going to take our guns away court hadn't released him the first time he threatened someone with a gun he wouldn't have felt the urgency to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights been able to commit this crime with a gun too.

FTFY

FTA - "James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, told the Dothan Eagle that Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff's Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing."

This is what should have happened to him instead...

Link

Or

Link


He was just ACCUSED. I'd be fine with his weapons being taken away until trial.
 
2013-01-29 10:01:18 PM  
I want to ask why the guy insisted he needed two kids aged 6-8 but I really don't want to know.
 
2013-01-29 10:01:19 PM  
The world has gone mad
 
2013-01-29 10:01:34 PM  
All gunfuggery aside, anyone else notice that he had an oddly specific requirement for hostages? Plus the whole bunker and thing?

/I've been to Dothan. It's the taint of Alabama.
 
2013-01-29 10:02:13 PM  

b0rg9: Took the "Dothan" route from Clearwater, FL up to Bloomington, IN one year instead of just doing I-75 to I-24 to I-65. It's a few hundred miles shorter but takes way longer.

Best thing I remember about Dothan -- hot boiled peanuts some guy just got done making outside his roadside restaurant. Also, there's this store on your way through that sells awesome bonsai trees. Still want to drive through there again and get one.


The best boiled peanuts are always sold by some guy on the side of the highway with fewer teeth than fingers, who looks like they haven't had a bath in about a year, usually with a big boiling pot and stove setup in the back of their pickup truck.
 
2013-01-29 10:02:22 PM  
But seriously, is the bus driver okay? The article doesn't say.
 
2013-01-29 10:02:39 PM  

MichiganFTL: mediablitz: Didn't take you long to switch from "think about the poor child!!" did it?

About 29 seconds, 2 clicks and an oreo.


Is Obama the oreo?
 
2013-01-29 10:02:56 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Weaver95: I totally blame violent video games for this sort of thing. Obviously, we NEED to ban Civilization V! it leads to excessive violence of the most extreme sort.

Can we ban Doomsday Preppers from TV as well?


nope, sorry but the NRA has made it very clear that video games (like Civilization) are to blame.  oh, and movies.  movies like...hmm...Star wars!  yeah, star wars showed an ENTIRE PLANET getting shot!  totally violent.  Doomsday Preppers?  that's not violent, that's just common sense for real 'muricans who just wanna be ready for when them damn libruls take over the gubbermint.

oh hells.  I can't hate on doomsday preppers.  I like the damn show.  can we leave that outta this?
 
2013-01-29 10:03:22 PM  
RESET THE CLOCK!!
 
2013-01-29 10:03:32 PM  

davidphogan: pxlboy: cameroncrazy1984: I wonder what type of gun he used. A Winchester .303 no doubt.

Duh! It was either an AR-15 or an AK-47.

It could have been a Glock.


Probably a Perazzi. I'm thinking he is a high end trap shooter, Alabama and all...
 
2013-01-29 10:03:55 PM  

PanicMan: But seriously, is the bus driver okay? The article doesn't say.


The bus driver was killed for not letting him grab two kids.
 
2013-01-29 10:04:26 PM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Is Obama the oreo?


I just had the weirdest image including Biden and Oprah...
 
2013-01-29 10:05:18 PM  

b0rg9: Took the "Dothan" route from Clearwater, FL up to Bloomington, IN one year instead of just doing I-75 to I-24 to I-65. It's a few hundred miles shorter but takes way longer.

Best thing I remember about Dothan -- hot boiled peanuts some guy just got done making outside his roadside restaurant. Also, there's this store on your way through that sells awesome bonsai trees. Still want to drive through there again and get one.


Big ups to B-town.
 
2013-01-29 10:05:24 PM  

Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!


Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?
 
2013-01-29 10:06:28 PM  
Does anyone have any updated info?
 
2013-01-29 10:06:37 PM  

Gwendolyn: PanicMan: But seriously, is the bus driver okay? The article doesn't say.

The bus driver was killed for not letting him grab two kids.


Damn.
 
2013-01-29 10:07:00 PM  

LrdPhoenix: b0rg9: Took the "Dothan" route from Clearwater, FL up to Bloomington, IN one year instead of just doing I-75 to I-24 to I-65. It's a few hundred miles shorter but takes way longer.

Best thing I remember about Dothan -- hot boiled peanuts some guy just got done making outside his roadside restaurant. Also, there's this store on your way through that sells awesome bonsai trees. Still want to drive through there again and get one.

The best boiled peanuts are always sold by some guy on the side of the highway with fewer teeth than fingers, who looks like they haven't had a bath in about a year, usually with a big boiling pot and stove setup in the back of their pickup truck.


So while he's holed up with the chillins, we're gonna have to settle for the second best. Ideas?
 
2013-01-29 10:07:00 PM  
News says it's a Dyke that did the shooting.
 
2013-01-29 10:07:09 PM  
If prayer is not allowed on school busses, of course this is going to happen. Also, the shooter should have had more personal responsibility and taxes are too high.
 
2013-01-29 10:08:29 PM  

muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?


Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?
 
2013-01-29 10:08:38 PM  
As The Onion article succinctly pointed out - the real outrage of gun violence is that it creates an endless cycle of debate, and that makes Wayne LaPierre have a sad.

//Drew however probably makes big time dinero when kids die. Thanks a lot, link-clicking Farkers!
 
2013-01-29 10:09:13 PM  

PanicMan: Gwendolyn: PanicMan: But seriously, is the bus driver okay? The article doesn't say.

The bus driver was killed for not letting him grab two kids.

Damn.


I've only seen reports that the driver was shot 4 times (CNN). I haven't seen any confirmation that the driver was killed.
 
2013-01-29 10:09:15 PM  

Godscrack: News says it's a Dyke that did the shooting.


I didn't ask. Why did they tell?
 
2013-01-29 10:09:48 PM  
While I'm pretty sure that most gun owners don't have bunkers, I'm also pretty sure that most bunker owners have guns. Here's a idea: You can have a bunker or guns but not both. Would go a long way as a mental health test I'll bet.
 
2013-01-29 10:09:58 PM  

MichiganFTL: Oh hey look, let's post snarky comments about being trendily anti-gun! Not like actually worry about someone's child who's in a horrible situation or someone's father/son/brother who's heading to ICU...

Crap, I'm on fark, what am I thinkin'? How big was the gun's clip? Did it have assault bullets? If only our busses had bulletproof windows and panic rooms.


Because "I hope the kid will be OK" posts are so very useful, right?

There's a legitimate, ongoing, nationwide debate going on about taking legal steps to limit access to guns. Any situation that arises where guns are used in an unusual (and therefore newsworthy) criminal act is going to be fodder for that debate. Each such incident has the potential to change minds, and as such is a legitimate reason to continue the debate, folding the incident into the conversation, until the issue is settled. That's worthy of discussion.

No post here about hopes for the child's safety, or prayers for the bus driver, or sympathy for the kids on the bus or their parents will do much beyond making the poster feel good about having said something in empathy or sympathy for the people involved. Such wishes, well-intended as they might be, are not really worthy of discussion.

Hence, this thread becomes a discussion of the larger issues at hand.

/Interesting that not one of your own posts has anything to say about the people affected (precisely the lament here), nor do any of them seem to advance the debate on the larger issue. They're pretty much all snarky comments.
 
2013-01-29 10:10:33 PM  
ABC confirming bus driver fatality.
 
2013-01-29 10:12:15 PM  
 
2013-01-29 10:12:24 PM  

GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!


Clearly raising taxes on the wealthiest americans would have prevented this.
 
2013-01-29 10:12:29 PM  

Bontesla: ABC confirming bus driver fatality.


Have you seen how they call elections?  I like his odds.
 
2013-01-29 10:13:14 PM  
The NRA has made a statement......

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At least I think they made a statement. It could of been a stroke.


/"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,"
//Then the U.S. created an army and the second amendment was voided, just like a republicans bowels when a blackman votes.
 
2013-01-29 10:13:15 PM  

Bontesla: ABC confirming bus driver fatality.


*sigh*

another one for the list I guess.
 
2013-01-29 10:13:19 PM  

Bontesla: PanicMan: Gwendolyn: PanicMan: But seriously, is the bus driver okay? The article doesn't say.

The bus driver was killed for not letting him grab two kids.

Damn.

I've only seen reports that the driver was shot 4 times (CNN). I haven't seen any confirmation that the driver was killed.


That does it. We should issue bus drivers kevlar. Or maybe give them armor with counter measures - a flamethrower that activates when it senses a speeding projectile?
 
2013-01-29 10:13:29 PM  

Phony_Soldier: GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!

Clearly raising taxes on the wealthiest americans would have prevented this.


No, raising taxes on bunker owners might have though.
 
2013-01-29 10:13:48 PM  

mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?


Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.
 
2013-01-29 10:14:17 PM  

Phony_Soldier: GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!

Clearly raising taxes on the wealthiest americans would have prevented this.


Universal gay marriage rights would have prevented this.
 
2013-01-29 10:14:21 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: FTFA: James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, told the Dothan Eagle that Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff's Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing.

And yet he still had a gun

/why?


Because socialism.
 
2013-01-29 10:14:41 PM  

LadySusan: Does anyone have any updated info?


The only thing I've found so far is that the bus driver is dead.
 
2013-01-29 10:15:07 PM  

muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.


Wayne LaPierre wasn't being blamed.
 
2013-01-29 10:15:09 PM  

Katolu: I Have Assumed Control: Boobies

Ahhhhhhahahaha!


i.imgur.comView Full Size

/appalled at the sensless violence; encourages boobies
 
2013-01-29 10:15:33 PM  

muck4doo: Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?


I'd be happier if he gave him a bunch of flowers and a foot massage, but we should probably stick to the facts of the situation.
 
2013-01-29 10:15:42 PM  

coeyagi: Phony_Soldier: GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!

Clearly raising taxes on the wealthiest americans would have prevented this.

Universal gay marriage rights would have prevented this.


Legalized marijuana would have too!
 
2013-01-29 10:15:45 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: FTFA: James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, told the Dothan Eagle that Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff's Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing.

And yet he still had a gun

/why?

Because socialism.


Corporations are to blame, you idiot.
 
2013-01-29 10:16:41 PM  

muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.


the theory goes that if maybe crazy people had less access to weaponry with high rates of fire, then maybe less death would be the result.  which, you have to admit, is an argument with some merit.  after all, it takes time to hunt down and chop a school bus full of kids into hamburger meat with an ax.  using a gun?  about 40 seconds sustained fire on full auto.  then pause to reload, and bullet hose the bus again for luck.  shiat, with the right gun you don't even have to get on the bus...you'll shoot right through the damn engine block.
 
2013-01-29 10:16:41 PM  

Wyalt Derp: muck4doo: Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

I'd be happier if he gave him a bunch of flowers and a foot massage, but we should probably stick to the facts of the situation.


Yes, the gun is to blame then.
 
2013-01-29 10:16:54 PM  
Gun owners vehemently defend their right to own guns and offer no solutions to reducing violence because they're patriots who care so much about their country by not caring about it. News at 11.
 
2013-01-29 10:17:09 PM  

muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.


It takes BOTH, get it? I realize you DESPERATELY don't want to admit it, but the crazy guy NEEDS the gun.

Sad to see you willfully ignorant.
 
2013-01-29 10:18:15 PM  

coeyagi: Phony_Soldier: GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!

Clearly raising taxes on the wealthiest americans would have prevented this.

Universal gay marriage rights would have prevented this.


Or was it tax cuts?
 
2013-01-29 10:18:32 PM  

coeyagi: Gun owners vehemently defend their right to own guns and offer no solutions to reducing violence because they're patriots who care so much about their country by not caring about it. News at 11.


remember - discussing gun violence after a massacre and/or murder means you are 'playing politics'.  because - reasons!  yeah.
 
2013-01-29 10:18:54 PM  

mediablitz: Some updates here


The comments there make the Politics page look like Plato's classroom.
 
2013-01-29 10:18:58 PM  

great_tigers: coeyagi: Phony_Soldier: GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!

Clearly raising taxes on the wealthiest americans would have prevented this.

Universal gay marriage rights would have prevented this.

Legalized marijuana would have too!


Not canceling Firefly would have prevented this.
 
2013-01-29 10:19:05 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: Because "I hope the kid will be OK" posts are so very useful, right?


*hugs* Stay safe, subby!
 
2013-01-29 10:19:32 PM  

mediablitz: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

It takes BOTH, get it? I realize you DESPERATELY don't want to admit it, but the crazy guy NEEDS the gun.

Sad to see you willfully ignorant.


Are you new here? Its muckadoo.
 
2013-01-29 10:19:40 PM  
I drove by there on my way home from work wondering what happened. That section of town is Deliverance type area. From everything they were saying on TV, the guy is certifiably nuts. He always called local talk shows going on about the government conspiracies and stuff.

But of course, here come the gun control folks trying to link this to Aurora and Sandy Hook. News flash: HE'S farkING CRAZY. Gun control laws won't protect ordinary citizens from people like this.
 
2013-01-29 10:19:45 PM  

muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: muck4doo: Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

I'd be happier if he gave him a bunch of flowers and a foot massage, but we should probably stick to the facts of the situation.

Yes, the gun is to blame then.


He had already been charged with menacing. Too bad there isn't a law saying you need to turn over your weapons until court.

But, you know, he was GOING to use a baseball bat this time. Cuz access to guns had NOTHING to do with this. Everyone holds hostages with a baseball bat, right?

Just change your handle to "willfully ignorant". It's more suitable.
 
2013-01-29 10:20:13 PM  

DoctorCal: 100 Watt Walrus: Because "I hope the kid will be OK" posts are so very useful, right?

*hugs* Stay safe, subby!



Pray for Omarion.
 
2013-01-29 10:20:30 PM  

Karma Curmudgeon: Demetrius: All bus drivers six year olds should be armed.



All six-year-old bus drivers should be armed.
 
2013-01-29 10:20:39 PM  

LadySusan: mediablitz: Some updates here

The comments there make the Politics page look like Plato's classroom.


The answer, clearly, is MORE PRAYER.
 
2013-01-29 10:20:43 PM  

muck4doo: The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.


Someone said it was your fault?
 
2013-01-29 10:21:05 PM  
Google maps are kind of blurry there. It looks like we have what, a junkyard, a black church and maybe a couple nice homes at the end of the road. Or maybe just Alabama nice. Better aerial pix, anyone?
 
2013-01-29 10:21:14 PM  

Weaver95: Bontesla: ABC confirming bus driver fatality.

*sigh*

another one for the list I guess.


Tree of liberty and all that.
 
2013-01-29 10:21:24 PM  

ariseatex: kronicfeld: There you go, just assuming that "shot" means "shot with a gun." It could just mean that he was shooting hoops.

Or shot with an arrow.

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What if he used be an adventurer, like you?
 
2013-01-29 10:21:56 PM  
All buses should be armed with facial-recognition turrets tied into a national criminal database. Boom. C'mon, defense contractors and IT behemoths, you've got some skin in the game here.
 
2013-01-29 10:22:01 PM  

Weaver95: NewportBarGuy: Weaver95: I totally blame violent video games for this sort of thing. Obviously, we NEED to ban Civilization V! it leads to excessive violence of the most extreme sort.

Can we ban Doomsday Preppers from TV as well?

nope, sorry but the NRA has made it very clear that video games (like Civilization) are to blame.  oh, and movies.  movies like...hmm...Star wars!  yeah, star wars showed an ENTIRE PLANET getting shot!  totally violent.  Doomsday Preppers?  that's not violent, that's just common sense for real 'muricans who just wanna be ready for when them damn libruls take over the gubbermint.


You blame those preppers? Their bunkers serve as life pods for when an evil liberal Death Star does a drive-by on the planet.

But seriously, what the ever living fark is wrong with people? I cannot believe this sort of activity is uncommon, and only getting reported because of gun debates and 24-hour news channels. Have we, as a society, gone over the bend?
 
2013-01-29 10:22:02 PM  
Lift your coat and touch your toes, I'm gonna Jesus your schoolbus
 
2013-01-29 10:22:11 PM  

TheUltimateLink: But of course, here come the gun control folks trying to link this to Aurora and Sandy Hook. News flash: HE'S farkING CRAZY. Gun control laws won't protect ordinary citizens from people like this.


Even if they're gun control laws that prevent crazy folks from owning guns? Seems like that might be relevant.
 
2013-01-29 10:22:23 PM  

coeyagi: great_tigers: coeyagi: Phony_Soldier: GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!

Clearly raising taxes on the wealthiest americans would have prevented this.

Universal gay marriage rights would have prevented this.

Legalized marijuana would have too!

Not canceling Firefly would have prevented this.


So far, I think "not cancelling Firefly, and legalizing weed" are the best suggestions for preventing this.

/I still think farkettes should do their part by sleeping around more.
//It might help.
 
2013-01-29 10:23:02 PM  

muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.


Your point may have some validity, but your deliberately missing the point you're arguing against just makes you look stupid.

Had this wacko been wielding an ax, do you think, for example, the bus driver might have had a better chance of defending himself/herself against the guy? Little bit harder to fight back against bullets at point blank range.

Again, if you have a salient point to make, try to make it without resorting to derp.
 
2013-01-29 10:23:22 PM  

PainfulItching: All gunfuggery aside, anyone else notice that he had an oddly specific requirement for hostages? Plus the whole bunker and thing?

/I've been to Dothan. It's the taint of Alabama.


Allow me to clarify, The unshaven, unwashed, nursing home quality taint of Alabama.

And don't ever, under any circumstances whatsover go to Opp, Alabama. That's pure concentrated Florida rednekkindess in one small town.

http://www.stationindex.com/tv/markets/Dothan

Links to local TV stations where these guys haven't even thought about the idea of streaming video.
 
2013-01-29 10:23:41 PM  

mediablitz: LadySusan: mediablitz: Some updates here

The comments there make the Politics page look like Plato's classroom.

The answer, clearly, is MORE PRAYER.


It's the least you can do.
 
2013-01-29 10:23:54 PM  

muck4doo: Corporations are to blame, you idiot.


Follow the money is always good advice, and

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2013-01-29 10:24:33 PM  

wambu: Katolu: I Have Assumed Control: Boobies

Ahhhhhhahahaha!

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/appalled at the sensless violence; encourages boobies


Woha. I'll be in my bunker.
 
2013-01-29 10:24:34 PM  

Phony_Soldier: coeyagi: great_tigers: coeyagi: Phony_Soldier: GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!

Clearly raising taxes on the wealthiest americans would have prevented this.

Universal gay marriage rights would have prevented this.

Legalized marijuana would have too!

Not canceling Firefly would have prevented this.

So far, I think "not cancelling Firefly, and legalizing weed" are the best suggestions for preventing this.

/I still think farkettes should do their part by sleeping around more.
//It might help.


Legalizing weed may not be enough; it may need to be mandated.
 
2013-01-29 10:24:48 PM  

Weaver95: Bontesla: ABC confirming bus driver fatality.

*sigh*

another one for the list I guess.


Over and over and over again
 
2013-01-29 10:24:48 PM  

Gaseous Anomaly: TheUltimateLink: But of course, here come the gun control folks trying to link this to Aurora and Sandy Hook. News flash: HE'S farkING CRAZY. Gun control laws won't protect ordinary citizens from people like this.

Even if they're gun control laws that prevent crazy folks from owning guns? Seems like that might be relevant.


People who make serious dinero from armed psychopaths and the criminally insane frown upon your shenanigans.

It's comments like this that make Baby Jesus cry and thusly lobby Wayne LaPierre to unleash the Facebook Photoshop infographic brigade.

For shame.
 
2013-01-29 10:25:04 PM  

LadySusan: mediablitz: Some updates here

The comments there make the Politics page look like Plato's classroom.


Gotta turn the tide... Why the hell are so many gun owners just straight-up murdering cocksuckers? Gun owners should do more gun-owning and less murdering.
 
2013-01-29 10:25:10 PM  

mediablitz: illannoyin: doyner: If the Demorats weren't going to take our guns away court hadn't released him the first time he threatened someone with a gun he wouldn't have felt the urgency to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights been able to commit this crime with a gun too.

FTFY

FTA - "James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, told the Dothan Eagle that Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff's Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing."

This is what should have happened to him instead...

Link

Or

Link

He was just ACCUSED. I'd be fine with his weapons being taken away until trial.


Absolutely. This is not some concealed carry guy defending himself. This is an unstable arsehole who was arrested for pulling a gun on a guy and his kid for driving on his lawn. Everyone in the neighborhood knows who this guy is. Get their testimony and build a case to...

Lock him up

Have him evaluated by three psychiatrists

Have him committed because he's crazy (normal people don't pull a gun for driving on their lawn no matter how old and crotchety they are) and get him the help he needs

While he's in the klink get a search warrant to unload his bunker

Sell all the guns and ammo confiscated to help offset the cost of his treatment

/There should be no second chance when it comes to gun crimes
 
2013-01-29 10:25:19 PM  
What a derp-fest in the comments.
"PRAY FOR THEM!"

How bout ask that we get an excellent sharpshooter that can take out this scumbag with one well placed shot to the forehead?
 
2013-01-29 10:25:27 PM  

mediablitz: Phony_Soldier: GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!

Clearly raising taxes on the wealthiest americans would have prevented this.

No, raising taxes on bunker owners might have though.


What you call a bunker, they call a shelter in tornado country.
 
2013-01-29 10:25:50 PM  
Have they fired up the Situation Room yet?
 
2013-01-29 10:26:02 PM  

mediablitz: LadySusan: mediablitz: Some updates here

The comments there make the Politics page look like Plato's classroom.

The answer, clearly, is MORE PRAYER.


My favorite is poor Jessica who misread the article and was called out for blaming the bus driver. Instead of responding with "oops, my bad" or just deleting her post she goes full moran.
 
GBB
2013-01-29 10:26:05 PM  
An unregulated nutball, being necessary to the media for free page hits, the right of these "people" to keep and bear arms shall never be questioned.

FTF everyone.
 
2013-01-29 10:26:05 PM  
The suspect, who has not been identified by law enforcement, is reported to be inside an underground bunker by his home,

The suspect, who has not been identified by law enforcement, is reported to be inside an underground bunker by his home,

The suspect, who has not been identified by law enforcement, is reported to be inside an underground bunker by his home,

/come the fark on, people
 
2013-01-29 10:26:14 PM  

Weaver95: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

the theory goes that if maybe crazy people had less access to weaponry with high rates of fire, then maybe less death would be the result.  which, you have to admit, is an argument with some merit.  after all, it takes time to hunt down and chop a school bus full of kids into hamburger meat with an ax.  using a gun?  about 40 seconds sustained fire on full auto.  then pause to reload, and bullet hose the bus again for luck.  shiat, with the right gun you don't even have to get on the bus...you'll shoot right through the damn engine block.


We know you are a Dem lefty. You don't have to keep pretending to be a Libertarian. Matches and fuel have also killed many people at a time(see Happyland for an example). Maybe you can get the government to ban them too. We know you just want free access to drugs.
 
2013-01-29 10:26:57 PM  

muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.


But Muck4doo, a gun is a tool. Like a butcher knife or a harpoon, or uhh... an alligator.
 
2013-01-29 10:27:12 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: Have we, as a society, gone over the bend?


Unfortunately, I think it's starting to look that way. People are farking unhinged man, for one reason or another. Is it a right-wing media machine that is increasingly moving away from objective reality? Is it a culture of violence that seemingly encourages people to solve their problems with a firearm rather than with words? Is it hyperpartisanship, or the fact that every political and economic debate is now a zero-sum game? Is it because we value winning the argument rather than using the argument to find the right answer?

I don't know, but I'm starting to think this country is becoming collectively unglued.
 
2013-01-29 10:27:15 PM  

Fista-Phobia: Have they fired up the Situation Room yet?


We're gonna need graphics and theme music.
 
2013-01-29 10:27:21 PM  
How can we have a reasonable discussion when a Newtown victim's parent has heckled while he was testifying about what happened?
This is the state of discussion in this country. "Sorry your kid's tiny body was riddled with a dozen rounds of fiery death, but Second Amendment!"
 
2013-01-29 10:27:35 PM  

TheUltimateLink: I drove by there on my way home from work wondering what happened. That section of town is Deliverance type area. From everything they were saying on TV, the guy is certifiably nuts. He always called local talk shows going on about the government conspiracies and stuff.

But of course, here come the gun control folks trying to link this to Aurora and Sandy Hook. News flash: HE'S farkING CRAZY. Gun control laws won't protect ordinary citizens from people like this.


He threatened a man and his daughter with a gun last month.
 
2013-01-29 10:28:05 PM  

muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

the theory goes that if maybe crazy people had less access to weaponry with high rates of fire, then maybe less death would be the result.  which, you have to admit, is an argument with some merit.  after all, it takes time to hunt down and chop a school bus full of kids into hamburger meat with an ax.  using a gun?  about 40 seconds sustained fire on full auto.  then pause to reload, and bullet hose the bus again for luck.  shiat, with the right gun you don't even have to get on the bus...you'll shoot right through the damn engine block.

We know you are a Dem lefty. You don't have to keep pretending to be a Libertarian. Matches and fuel have also killed many people at a time(see Happyland for an example). Maybe you can get the government to ban them too. We know you just want free access to drugs.


Actually, I can recall thinking Weaver95 was right of center back in 2002/2003 when I first started lurking.
I prefer to think that the world has shifted, not him.
 
2013-01-29 10:28:38 PM  

muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

the theory goes that if maybe crazy people had less access to weaponry with high rates of fire, then maybe less death would be the result.  which, you have to admit, is an argument with some merit.  after all, it takes time to hunt down and chop a school bus full of kids into hamburger meat with an ax.  using a gun?  about 40 seconds sustained fire on full auto.  then pause to reload, and bullet hose the bus again for luck.  shiat, with the right gun you don't even have to get on the bus...you'll shoot right through the damn engine block.

We know you are a Dem lefty. You don't have to keep pretending to be a Libertarian. Matches and fuel have also killed many people at a time(see Happyland for an example). Maybe you can get the government to ban them too. We know you just want free access to drugs.


Sane person: Maybe the insane shouldn't have access to guns.
Insane person: YOU'RE.... HURRRRRRR..... COMIN' FER ME GUNS!

Muck, dude, you have just proven you're insane.
 
2013-01-29 10:28:43 PM  

DoctorCal: Fista-Phobia: Have they fired up the Situation Room yet?

We're gonna need graphics and theme music.


Better have some CGI renditions or else!
 
2013-01-29 10:28:58 PM  
Yep. All the dumbass anti-gun morons jumped right is as expected.
Did any of you give a damn about to 500 plus people murdered in the gun free utopia of Chicago last year?
I didn't think so.
F*cking idiots.
 
2013-01-29 10:29:07 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

But Muck4doo, a gun is a tool. Like a butcher knife or a harpoon, or uhh... an alligator.


No, it's clearly the guns fault.
 
2013-01-29 10:29:34 PM  

Fista-Phobia: DoctorCal: Fista-Phobia: Have they fired up the Situation Room yet?

We're gonna need graphics and theme music.

Better have some CGI renditions or else!


I miss the Katrina coverage. That little black kid with the G-Unit t-shirt in their go-to still was awesome!
 
2013-01-29 10:30:17 PM  

LadySusan: mediablitz: LadySusan: mediablitz: Some updates here

The comments there make the Politics page look like Plato's classroom.

The answer, clearly, is MORE PRAYER.

My favorite is poor Jessica who misread the article and was called out for blaming the bus driver. Instead of responding with "oops, my bad" or just deleting her post she goes full moran.


I had to go back and look for this. Didn't even realize there were comments.

/Ghostery, my favorite browser extension
 
2013-01-29 10:30:25 PM  

Fista-Phobia: DoctorCal: Fista-Phobia: Have they fired up the Situation Room yet?

We're gonna need graphics and theme music.

Better have some CGI renditions or else!


You would think that they would have the school shootings stuff ready to go at this point, just type in the names.
 
2013-01-29 10:30:32 PM  

Witty_Retort: How can we have a reasonable discussion when a Newtown victim's parent has heckled while he was testifying about what happened?
This is the state of discussion in this country. "Sorry your kid's tiny body was riddled with a dozen rounds of fiery death, but Second Amendment!"


Debate on issues of policy used to serve as a means of comparing opposing ideas, and then integrating the best thoughts from all points of view. Nowadays, winning the debate is all that matters. Our public discourse is no longer a search for truth, it's a game where shouting louder than your opponent gives you a touchdown.
 
2013-01-29 10:30:34 PM  

LadySusan: mediablitz: LadySusan: mediablitz: Some updates here

The comments there make the Politics page look like Plato's classroom.

The answer, clearly, is MORE PRAYER.

My favorite is poor Jessica who misread the article and was called out for blaming the bus driver. Instead of responding with "oops, my bad" or just deleting her post she goes full moran.


And kept at it. She must be a Politics Tab veteran...
 
2013-01-29 10:30:35 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Yep. All the dumbass anti-gun morons jumped right is as expected.
Did any of you give a damn about to 500 plus people murdered in the gun free utopia of Chicago last year?
I didn't think so.
F*cking idiots.


Dag phone it in.
 
2013-01-29 10:30:38 PM  
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Here's the Dyke with a gun.
 
2013-01-29 10:31:02 PM  

coeyagi: muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

the theory goes that if maybe crazy people had less access to weaponry with high rates of fire, then maybe less death would be the result.  which, you have to admit, is an argument with some merit.  after all, it takes time to hunt down and chop a school bus full of kids into hamburger meat with an ax.  using a gun?  about 40 seconds sustained fire on full auto.  then pause to reload, and bullet hose the bus again for luck.  shiat, with the right gun you don't even have to get on the bus...you'll shoot right through the damn engine block.

We know you are a Dem lefty. You don't have to keep pretending to be a Libertarian. Matches and fuel have also killed many people at a time(see Happyland for an example). Maybe you can get the government to ban them too. We know you just want free access to drugs.

Sane person: Maybe the insane shouldn't have access to guns.
Insane person: YOU'RE.... HURRRRRRR..... COMIN' FER ME GUNS!

Muck, dude, you have just proven you're insane.


Where did I say insane people should have guns? Insane people blame the gun and not the person. The insane person i was originally responding to blamed the gun.
 
2013-01-29 10:31:48 PM  

PainfulItching: mediablitz: Phony_Soldier: GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!

Clearly raising taxes on the wealthiest americans would have prevented this.

No, raising taxes on bunker owners might have though.

What you call a bunker, they call a shelter in tornado country.


I'm sorry tornado shelters have to also pay for the crazy gun owners with bunkers.

But hey... REVENUE!!!
 
2013-01-29 10:31:49 PM  
Obama calling Benghazi a "Terrorist Act" rather than an "Act of Terror" would have prevented this.
 
2013-01-29 10:31:52 PM  

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2013-01-29 10:32:11 PM  

muck4doo: Where did I say insane people should have guns? Insane people blame the gun and not the person. The insane person i was originally responding to blamed the gun.


Where is the pro-gun lobby calling for better mental health screening and gun licensing?

OH WAIT
 
2013-01-29 10:32:12 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Yep. All the dumbass anti-gun morons jumped right is as expected.
Did any of you give a damn about to 500 plus people murdered in the gun free utopia of Chicago last year?
I didn't think so.
F*cking idiots.


We care so little that we want to remove all gun control legislation.
 
2013-01-29 10:32:22 PM  

ph0rk: muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

the theory goes that if maybe crazy people had less access to weaponry with high rates of fire, then maybe less death would be the result.  which, you have to admit, is an argument with some merit.  after all, it takes time to hunt down and chop a school bus full of kids into hamburger meat with an ax.  using a gun?  about 40 seconds sustained fire on full auto.  then pause to reload, and bullet hose the bus again for luck.  shiat, with the right gun you don't even have to get on the bus...you'll shoot right through the damn engine block.

We know you are a Dem lefty. You don't have to keep pretending to be a Libertarian. Matches and fuel have also killed many people at a time(see Happyland for an example). Maybe you can get the government to ban them too. We know you just want free access to drugs.

Actually, I can recall thinking Weaver95 was right of center back in 2002/2003 when I first started lurking.
I prefer to think that the world has shifted, not him.


Does that mean he isn't calling himself a libertarian anymore?
 
2013-01-29 10:32:26 PM  

muck4doo: No, it's clearly the guns fault.


You're quite convincing that the guns have nothing to do with people getting killed by guns. You should keep this tact; it's very effective.
 
2013-01-29 10:32:30 PM  

Witty_Retort: How can we have a reasonable discussion when a Newtown victim's parent has heckled while he was testifying about what happened?
This is the state of discussion in this country. "Sorry your kid's tiny body was riddled with a dozen rounds of fiery death, but Second Amendment!"


False. Video is cleverly edited, but not real. Patton Oswalt went full Hulkamanic about it on facebook and then said he had been bamboozled.
 
2013-01-29 10:32:38 PM  

muck4doo: coeyagi: muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

the theory goes that if maybe crazy people had less access to weaponry with high rates of fire, then maybe less death would be the result.  which, you have to admit, is an argument with some merit.  after all, it takes time to hunt down and chop a school bus full of kids into hamburger meat with an ax.  using a gun?  about 40 seconds sustained fire on full auto.  then pause to reload, and bullet hose the bus again for luck.  shiat, with the right gun you don't even have to get on the bus...you'll shoot right through the damn engine block.

We know you are a Dem lefty. You don't have to keep pretending to be a Libertarian. Matches and fuel have also killed many people at a time(see Happyland for an example). Maybe you can get the government to ban them too. We know you just want free access to drugs.

Sane person: Maybe the insane shouldn't have access to guns.
Insane person: YOU'RE.... HURRRRRRR..... COMIN' FER ME GUNS!

Muck, dude, you have just proven you're insane.

Where did I say insane people should have guns? Insane people blame the gun and not the person. The insane person i was originally responding to blamed the gun.


I amend my diagnosis from "insane" to "illiterately insane".

//hint: read it again, for understanding this time.
 
2013-01-29 10:33:23 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: LadySusan: mediablitz: LadySusan: mediablitz: Some updates here

The comments there make the Politics page look like Plato's classroom.

The answer, clearly, is MORE PRAYER.

My favorite is poor Jessica who misread the article and was called out for blaming the bus driver. Instead of responding with "oops, my bad" or just deleting her post she goes full moran.

I had to go back and look for this. Didn't even realize there were comments.

/Ghostery, my favorite browser extension


The comments are often the best part. Always read the comments.
 
2013-01-29 10:33:25 PM  

muck4doo: Igor Jakovsky: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

But Muck4doo, a gun is a tool. Like a butcher knife or a harpoon, or uhh... an alligator.

No, it's clearly the guns fault.


Why can't it be both the gun's and the wielder's fault? The wielder for being the one to bring death, the weapon for being an easy, relatively inexpensive method to obtain death?
 
2013-01-29 10:33:31 PM  

muck4doo: Igor Jakovsky: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

But Muck4doo, a gun is a tool. Like a butcher knife or a harpoon, or uhh... an alligator.

No, it's clearly the guns fault.


You WANT to look stupid, don't you? There is no other explanation.

I guess this is cheaper than the BDSM club? Humiliation costs a lot, so you go for the freebie?
 
2013-01-29 10:33:35 PM  

muck4doo: Actually, I can recall thinking Weaver95 was right of center back in 2002/2003 when I first started lurking.
I prefer to think that the world has shifted, not him.

Does that mean he isn't calling himself a libertarian anymore?


No, it just means the "far right" has hit lunatic fringe status.
 
2013-01-29 10:33:41 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Yep. All the dumbass anti-gun morons jumped right is as expected.
Did any of you give a damn about to 500 plus people murdered in the gun free utopia of Chicago last year?
I didn't think so.
F*cking idiots.


Unusual crimes make news. News spurs discussion. Who have thunk it? Everyday crimes that by and large affect mostly other criminals do not make news, as terrible as they may be. If you can get a green-light here on a story of a workaday Chicago murder, you'd likely see the same debate you see here.

But please continue with your false equivalence. It's very helpful to the discussion.
 
2013-01-29 10:33:52 PM  

ph0rk: muck4doo: Where did I say insane people should have guns? Insane people blame the gun and not the person. The insane person i was originally responding to blamed the gun.

Where is the pro-gun lobby calling for better mental health screening and gun licensing?

OH WAIT


I'm not an NRA member. Do you belong to the Brady Group?
 
2013-01-29 10:34:02 PM  
The non-repeal of Glass-Steagall would have prevented this.
 
2013-01-29 10:34:25 PM  
Rest assured. The hostage taker has told police that he isn't going to harm the hostage.
 
2013-01-29 10:34:46 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: muck4doo: Igor Jakovsky: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

But Muck4doo, a gun is a tool. Like a butcher knife or a harpoon, or uhh... an alligator.

No, it's clearly the guns fault.

Why can't it be both the gun's and the wielder's fault? The wielder for being the one to bring death, the weapon for being an easy, relatively inexpensive method to obtain death?


Oppenheimer should have blamed the Enola Gay's Bombadier and not himself.
 
2013-01-29 10:35:07 PM  
If Guy Ritchie had used a dental dam on Madonna, it would have prevented this.
 
2013-01-29 10:35:16 PM  
This thread is trending hard toward the single issue posters. Everybody else needs to step it up.
 
2013-01-29 10:35:46 PM  

coeyagi: muck4doo: coeyagi: muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

the theory goes that if maybe crazy people had less access to weaponry with high rates of fire, then maybe less death would be the result.  which, you have to admit, is an argument with some merit.  after all, it takes time to hunt down and chop a school bus full of kids into hamburger meat with an ax.  using a gun?  about 40 seconds sustained fire on full auto.  then pause to reload, and bullet hose the bus again for luck.  shiat, with the right gun you don't even have to get on the bus...you'll shoot right through the damn engine block.

We know you are a Dem lefty. You don't have to keep pretending to be a Libertarian. Matches and fuel have also killed many people at a time(see Happyland for an example). Maybe you can get the government to ban them too. We know you just want free access to drugs.

Sane person: Maybe the insane shouldn't have access to guns.
Insane person: YOU'RE.... HURRRRRRR..... COMIN' FER ME GUNS!

Muck, dude, you have just proven you're insane.

Where did I say insane people should have guns? Insane people blame the gun and not the person. The insane person i was originally responding to blamed the gun.

I amend my diagnosis from "insane" to "illiterately insane".

//hint: read it again, for understanding this time.


I did. Where did I say insane people should have guns? I said the gun shouldn't be the focus of the blame.
 
2013-01-29 10:36:00 PM  
If Lebron had decided to stay with the Cavs, he could have prevented this.
 
2013-01-29 10:36:00 PM  

DoctorCal: This thread is trending hard toward the single issue posters. Everybody else needs to step it up.


I am not nor have I ever been a single issue poster. Sometimes not even in the same thread.
 
2013-01-29 10:36:02 PM  

muck4doo: Where did I say insane people should have guns? Insane people blame the gun and not the person. The insane person i was originally responding to blamed the gun.


Because blaming an imaginary ax is totally sane.
 
2013-01-29 10:36:46 PM  

coeyagi: If Guy Ritchie had used a dental dam on Madonna, it would have prevented this.


ha what?? dental dam? Whatever happened to the internet dentist?
 
2013-01-29 10:37:38 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: Why can't it be both the gun's and the wielder's fault?


One is an inanimate object. Does that help?
 
2013-01-29 10:37:42 PM  
Geez. Reading this thread, I didn't know Derp had VTEC. Apparently, it kicked in.
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2013-01-29 10:37:43 PM  

muck4doo: Where did I say insane people should have guns? Insane people blame the gun and not the person. The insane person i was originally responding to blamed the gun.


You can't do it, can you? You just CAN'T admit the ill person HAD to have the GUN to do this. It takes BOTH.

So you would rather play willfully ignorant and repeat "blame the gun!!" over and over, rather than admit the truth: He doesn't do this without access to the gun. They go hand in hand. The shooting in Chicago don't happen without the easy access to guns. They go hand in hand.

Quit being such a farking baby. Quit feigning willful ignorance.

Unless you really are that vacuous. You really are that scared to admit the truth. I think you really are.

Back to your childish ignorance, tool
 
2013-01-29 10:37:54 PM  

muck4doo: coeyagi: muck4doo: coeyagi: muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: mediablitz: muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: Yay guns!

Would it make you happier if he hacked him with an ax instead?

Hmmm. Wonder why he didn't? Maybe because a GUN was handy?

Yes, guns are much easier to get than an ax. Amiright? The guy is crazy. Glad to see you blaming the tool instead.

the theory goes that if maybe crazy people had less access to weaponry with high rates of fire, then maybe less death would be the result.  which, you have to admit, is an argument with some merit.  after all, it takes time to hunt down and chop a school bus full of kids into hamburger meat with an ax.  using a gun?  about 40 seconds sustained fire on full auto.  then pause to reload, and bullet hose the bus again for luck.  shiat, with the right gun you don't even have to get on the bus...you'll shoot right through the damn engine block.

We know you are a Dem lefty. You don't have to keep pretending to be a Libertarian. Matches and fuel have also killed many people at a time(see Happyland for an example). Maybe you can get the government to ban them too. We know you just want free access to drugs.

Sane person: Maybe the insane shouldn't have access to guns.
Insane person: YOU'RE.... HURRRRRRR..... COMIN' FER ME GUNS!

Muck, dude, you have just proven you're insane.

Where did I say insane people should have guns? Insane people blame the gun and not the person. The insane person i was originally responding to blamed the gun.

I amend my diagnosis from "insane" to "illiterately insane".

//hint: read it again, for understanding this time.

I did. Where did I say insane people should have guns? I said the gun shouldn't be the focus of the blame.


I never said you said insane people should have guns. Let me try this again, in REALLY SIMPLE LANGUAGE.

1) Person A, Weaver, says insane people should not have guns.
2) Person B, You, says that libs like him are coming for guns.
3) Person A, by extension, are basically saying you're insane because Person A is coming for your guns because he advocates that insane people shouldn't have guns.

Clear now?
 
2013-01-29 10:38:07 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Yep. All the dumbass anti-gun morons jumped right is as expected.
Did any of you give a damn about to 500 plus people murdered in the gun free utopia of Chicago last year?
I didn't think so.
F*cking idiots.


You make a good point; to save more lives, instead of banning "assault weapons" we should ban handguns; far more people are killed with handguns.

/ducks
 
2013-01-29 10:38:17 PM  
What an imaginary axe might look like:

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Fista-Phobia: coeyagi: If Guy Ritchie had used a dental dam on Madonna, it would have prevented this.

ha what?? dental dam? Whatever happened to the internet dentist?


I think he's an internet golfer now.
 
2013-01-29 10:38:26 PM  
"Alabama school bus driver shot pushed out of window, six-year-old child taken hostage"

There, I fixed it so the gun ban crowd can feel better about the headline.
 
2013-01-29 10:38:41 PM  

DoctorCal: This thread is trending hard toward the single issue posters. Everybody else needs to step it up.


Okay. Boiled peanuts are awesome. You just have to eat them right away. Otherwise you have soggy lukewarm mush.
 
2013-01-29 10:38:53 PM  

Demetrius: All bus drivers should be armed.


I wouldn't mind it.

We are completely vulnerable in a vehicle with children and no way to lock out nutcases who want to get in (Since that would understandably defeat the purpose of having emergency exits for the kids.) We're also notoriously predictable since we drive the same route day after day at the same time.

It's a ridiculously easy target for anyone with half a brain.

/why yes I check behind me for drugged out psychos when I stop at railroad crossings and have to open my doors (which is in that "part" of town).
 
2013-01-29 10:38:57 PM  

Wyalt Derp: muck4doo: Where did I say insane people should have guns? Insane people blame the gun and not the person. The insane person i was originally responding to blamed the gun.

Because blaming an imaginary ax is totally sane.


You dropped out of reading classes in 6th grade, didn't you?
 
2013-01-29 10:39:43 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: FTFA: James Edward Davis, Jr., who lives near Dykes on Private Road 1539, told the Dothan Eagle that Dykes pulled a gun on him and his daughter on Dec. 10 after Dykes believed Davis had driven in Dykes' yard. Davis said he reported Dykes to the Dale County Sheriff's Department. Dykes was arrested Dec. 22 and charged with menacing.

And yet he still had a gun

/why?

Probably because he's only been charged, not convicted.


Yeah, I get the 'innocent until proven guilty' thing, but would it be too much to ask, in circumstances like this at least, to have like a 90 day impound of all firearms until you have your court date?

/at that point, a judge could decide if they should be returned or held pending further action?
 
2013-01-29 10:39:55 PM  
Nate Silver could have prevented predicted this.
 
2013-01-29 10:39:58 PM  
Godscrack:
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Here's the Dyke with a gun.

No Dutchman would put his finger in that.
 
2013-01-29 10:39:59 PM  

Witty_Retort: How can we have a reasonable discussion when a Newtown victim's parent has heckled while he was testifying about what happened?



Wow, FFS we're screwed.
 
2013-01-29 10:40:01 PM  

MichiganFTL: Oh hey look, let's post snarky comments about being trendily anti-gun! Not like actually worry about someone's child who's in a horrible situation or someone's father/son/brother who's heading to ICU...

Crap, I'm on fark, what am I thinkin'? How big was the gun's clip? Did it have assault bullets? If only our busses had bulletproof windows and panic rooms.


Don't forget, only conservatives use fear to push their agenda. IF WE DON'T BAN ALL GUNS, YOU WILL ALL BE SHOT BY A PSYCHO WITH A GUN!
 
2013-01-29 10:40:21 PM  

cuzsis: Demetrius: All bus drivers should be armed.

I wouldn't mind it.

We are completely vulnerable in a vehicle with children and no way to lock out nutcases who want to get in (Since that would understandably defeat the purpose of having emergency exits for the kids.) We're also notoriously predictable since we drive the same route day after day at the same time.

It's a ridiculously easy target for anyone with half a brain.

/why yes I check behind me for drugged out psychos when I stop at railroad crossings and have to open my doors (which is in that "part" of town).


Lol. Yeah. Let's arm drivers with a busload of children.
 
2013-01-29 10:40:40 PM  

PanicMan: DoctorCal: This thread is trending hard toward the single issue posters. Everybody else needs to step it up.

Okay. Boiled peanuts are awesome. You just have to eat them right away. Otherwise you have soggy lukewarm mush.


I'm eating as fast as I can.

/and two more Just Guns have arrived
 
2013-01-29 10:41:02 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: Why can't it be both the gun's and the wielder's fault?


Bring charges against the gun and appoint a public defender and take it to trial.
If you can convince a jury of the gun's peers that it was a willing accomplice acting of it's own volition, you'll win a conviction and you can send the gun to prison.

Now if the gun was forced to go along with this against it's will, you should probably charge the wielder with gunnapping as well.
 
2013-01-29 10:41:07 PM  
Gun deaths are horrible. When someone has good data that show a solution I'll be willing to listen. In the meantime I'd rather worry about lack of adequate health care where the real horrible and unnecessary causes of death occur.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm

Gun deaths aren't even much of a statistic here.
 
2013-01-29 10:41:07 PM  

machoprogrammer: MichiganFTL: Oh hey look, let's post snarky comments about being trendily anti-gun! Not like actually worry about someone's child who's in a horrible situation or someone's father/son/brother who's heading to ICU...

Crap, I'm on fark, what am I thinkin'? How big was the gun's clip? Did it have assault bullets? If only our busses had bulletproof windows and panic rooms.

Don't forget, only conservatives use fear to push their agenda. IF WE DON'T BAN ALL GUNS, YOU WILL ALL BE SHOT BY A PSYCHO WITH A GUN!


Forced sterilizations in red states could have prevented this (debate).
 
2013-01-29 10:41:09 PM  
If only I had prayed harder for Omarian, this wouldn't have happened . . .
 
2013-01-29 10:41:31 PM  

DoctorCal: What an imaginary axe might look like:

[www.2camels.com image 400x267]

Fista-Phobia: coeyagi: If Guy Ritchie had used a dental dam on Madonna, it would have prevented this.

ha what?? dental dam? Whatever happened to the internet dentist?

I think he's an internet golfer now.


Damn. Geoff Tate has really let himself go.
 
2013-01-29 10:42:06 PM  

coeyagi: machoprogrammer: MichiganFTL: Oh hey look, let's post snarky comments about being trendily anti-gun! Not like actually worry about someone's child who's in a horrible situation or someone's father/son/brother who's heading to ICU...

Crap, I'm on fark, what am I thinkin'? How big was the gun's clip? Did it have assault bullets? If only our busses had bulletproof windows and panic rooms.

Don't forget, only conservatives use fear to push their agenda. IF WE DON'T BAN ALL GUNS, YOU WILL ALL BE SHOT BY A PSYCHO WITH A GUN!

Forced sterilizations in red states could have prevented this (debate).


Why would they need forced sterilizations with all that abstinence only sex-education they get there?
 
2013-01-29 10:42:32 PM  
River Dancing by undocumented Mexicans on their cigarette break could have prevented this.
 
2013-01-29 10:42:51 PM  

DoctorCal: [www.huggingthecoast.com image 388x350]


*drool*
 
2013-01-29 10:42:52 PM  

LadySusan: Gun deaths are horrible. When someone has good data that show a solution I'll be willing to listen. In the meantime I'd rather worry about lack of adequate health care where the real horrible and unnecessary causes of death occur.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm

Gun deaths aren't even much of a statistic here.


Ah. So what's your acceptable threshold of gun deaths? At what point is it too much?
 
2013-01-29 10:42:59 PM  

I Have Assumed Control: Boobies


pervert. the child is 6 years old
 
2013-01-29 10:43:05 PM  

way south: "Alabama school bus driver shot pushed out of window, six-year-old child taken hostage"

There, I fixed it so the gun ban crowd can feel better about the headline.


That afraid to address America's violent gun culture, are ya? Even DISCUSSING it means "ban guns".

How very enlightened of you!
 
2013-01-29 10:43:11 PM  

muck4doo: You dropped out of reading classes in 6th grade, didn't you?


Why don't you ax my teacher?
 
2013-01-29 10:43:24 PM  

coeyagi: River Dancing by undocumented Mexicans on their cigarette break could have prevented this.


I can do half of those dances.

The top half.
 
2013-01-29 10:43:24 PM  

phrawgh: DoctorCal: What an imaginary axe might look like:

[www.2camels.com image 400x267]

Fista-Phobia: coeyagi: If Guy Ritchie had used a dental dam on Madonna, it would have prevented this.

ha what?? dental dam? Whatever happened to the internet dentist?

I think he's an internet golfer now.

Damn. Geoff Tate has really let himself go.


Nothin' but, grit dogs, high-tops and DREAM THEATER.
 
2013-01-29 10:43:59 PM  
Let's all PRAY! That'll make us feel better about doing absolutely nothing.
 
2013-01-29 10:44:43 PM  

Gwendolyn: Let's all PRAY! That'll make us feel better about doing absolutely nothing.


Jesus saves, no need to pray
The gates of pearl have turned to gold
 
2013-01-29 10:44:59 PM  
I heard that 9 shotguns, 9 IEDs, and 9 extra large cheese pizzas could have prevented this. -Herman Cain.
 
2013-01-29 10:45:02 PM  

coeyagi: 1) Person A, Weaver, says insane people should not have guns.
2) Person B, You, says that libs like him are coming for guns.
3) Person A, by extension, are basically saying you're insane because Person A is coming for your guns because he advocates that insane people shouldn't have guns.

Clear now?


I see what you are saying now. I agree with him insane people shouldn't have guns, and I did focus too much on his second point about the weapons rather than his first point about insane people. Your 3rd point still doesn't make sense.
 
2013-01-29 10:45:06 PM  

Wyalt Derp: muck4doo: You dropped out of reading classes in 6th grade, didn't you?

Why don't you ax my teacher?


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2013-01-29 10:45:23 PM  

PanicMan: Okay. Boiled peanuts are awesome. You just have to eat them right away. Otherwise you have soggy lukewarm mush.


You can nuke some life into them for a second round. But, pretty much, yeah.
 
2013-01-29 10:45:55 PM  

DoctorCal: PanicMan: DoctorCal: This thread is trending hard toward the single issue posters. Everybody else needs to step it up.

Okay. Boiled peanuts are awesome. You just have to eat them right away. Otherwise you have soggy lukewarm mush.

I'm eating as fast as I can.

/and two more Just Guns have arrived


Are you familiar with the Boll Weevil Monument, and the Alabama Peanut Festival?
 
2013-01-29 10:45:57 PM  

muck4doo: coeyagi: 1) Person A, Weaver, says insane people should not have guns.
2) Person B, You, says that libs like him are coming for guns.
3) Person A, by extension, are basically saying you're insane because Person A is coming for your guns because he advocates that insane people shouldn't have guns.

Clear now?

I see what you are saying now. I agree with him insane people shouldn't have guns, and I did focus too much on his second point about the weapons rather than his first point about insane people. Your 3rd point still doesn't make sense.


That's too bad, since it is the mental leap you made.
 
2013-01-29 10:46:04 PM  
News coverage in that in that neck of the woods is dismal at best.


MIDLAND CITY, Alabama -- The man who the

The newspaper is reporting that Jimmy Lee Dykes, 65, is holed up in a bunker behind his residence on located near Destiny Church off U.S. 231.
 
2013-01-29 10:46:31 PM  
White people be crazy.
 
2013-01-29 10:46:48 PM  

Wyalt Derp: muck4doo: You dropped out of reading classes in 6th grade, didn't you?

Why don't you ax my teacher?


It can spell ax just like I did or with an "E" at the end. Funny, I know.
 
2013-01-29 10:46:58 PM  

muck4doo: Duck_of_Doom: Why can't it be both the gun's and the wielder's fault?

One is an inanimate object. Does that help?


Would this have happened the same way if the person wielded a sword, or a handful of bullets, or a cricket bat, or a microwave oven, or a pinch of mercury? If "yes the results would be the same", then the inanimate object is not the problem. If no, then there is some factor making these crimes quite deadly. What could it be?
 
2013-01-29 10:47:00 PM  

muck4doo: coeyagi: 1) Person A, Weaver, says insane people should not have guns.
2) Person B, You, says that libs like him are coming for guns.
3) Person A, by extension, are basically saying you're insane because Person A is coming for your guns because he advocates that insane people shouldn't have guns.

Clear now?

I see what you are saying now. I agree with him insane people shouldn't have guns, and I did focus too much on his second point about the weapons rather than his first point about insane people. Your 3rd point still doesn't make sense.


Doesn't make sense..... to you.

Third time's the charm maybe?

Ok, if Weaver says insane people shouldn't have guns, and then you think he's coming for your guns, you're basically admitting that you're insane. Because he isn't saying he's coming for all guns, just the guns of insane people.

Please God, if you exist, please make him understand this time.
 
2013-01-29 10:47:02 PM  

PanicMan: DoctorCal: PanicMan: DoctorCal: This thread is trending hard toward the single issue posters. Everybody else needs to step it up.

Okay. Boiled peanuts are awesome. You just have to eat them right away. Otherwise you have soggy lukewarm mush.

I'm eating as fast as I can.

/and two more Just Guns have arrived

Are you familiar with the Boll Weevil Monument, and the Alabama Peanut Festival?


I am not. How much weight could a guy like me pack on during such an event?
 
2013-01-29 10:47:12 PM  
White people, why you be so cray-cray?
 
2013-01-29 10:47:22 PM  

b0rg9: PanicMan: Okay. Boiled peanuts are awesome. You just have to eat them right away. Otherwise you have soggy lukewarm mush.

You can nuke some life into them for a second round. But, pretty much, yeah.


Cut it out, guys. I haven't had dinner, and now I'm jonesin'. Can't we talk about something else?
 
2013-01-29 10:47:39 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yeah, I get the 'innocent until proven guilty' thing, but would it be too much to ask, in circumstances like this at least, to have like a 90 day impound of all firearms until you have your court date?


Granted that sounds like a reasonable idea, but would it have been legal?
 
2013-01-29 10:47:40 PM  
A school bus newsflash at like 9:30 pm? Yeah, fark!
 
2013-01-29 10:48:10 PM  

Person: White people, why you be so cray-cray?


Dwindling majority, obviously.
 
2013-01-29 10:48:26 PM  

machoprogrammer: Don't forget, only conservatives use fear to push their agenda. IF WE DON'T BAN ALL GUNS, YOU WILL ALL BE SHOT BY A PSYCHO WITH A GUN!


TEN ROUND MAGAZINES ARE TYRANNY!!!

/TYRANNY!
 
2013-01-29 10:48:50 PM  
If hummers were offered more freely by members of the fairer gender, this could have been prevented.
 
2013-01-29 10:49:24 PM  
Why is it when a nut commits a crime, the first thing we wanna discuss is the tools he used rather then the fact he is a raving farking nut that built a bunker and kidnapped a kid?

This is a NUT problem, not a gun problem.
 
2013-01-29 10:49:28 PM  

Gaseous Anomaly: jehovahs witness protection: Yep. All the dumbass anti-gun morons jumped right is as expected.
Did any of you give a damn about to 500 plus people murdered in the gun free utopia of Chicago last year?
I didn't think so.
F*cking idiots.

You make a good point; to save more lives, instead of banning "assault weapons" we should ban handguns; far more people are killed with handguns.

/ducks


No reason to duck. That's the truth. But the left wing derp brigade follows everything they see/hear on MSNBC.
Again...F*CKING MORONS.
 
2013-01-29 10:49:43 PM  

muck4doo: Wyalt Derp: muck4doo: You dropped out of reading classes in 6th grade, didn't you?

Why don't you ax my teacher?

ItYou can spell ax just like I did or with an "E" at the end. Funny, I know.


/FTFM. Argggh!

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ax
 
2013-01-29 10:49:55 PM  

Kygz: A school bus newsflash at like 9:30 pm? Yeah, fark!


Um, one of the biggest news stories of the day yesterday, the potential revocation of the gay ban in Scouting, didn't even hit Fark's radar on any tab as far as I could tell.

Don't blame the platform, blame the users.
 
2013-01-29 10:50:22 PM  

atomicmask: Why is it when a nut commits a crime, the first thing we wanna discuss is the tools he used rather then the fact he is a raving farking nut that built a bunker and kidnapped a kid?

This is a NUT problem, not a gun problem.


Because many of us would like to live in an America where the nuts don't all have guns.
 
2013-01-29 10:51:17 PM  

coeyagi: Kygz: A school bus newsflash at like 9:30 pm? Yeah, fark!

Um, one of the biggest news stories of the day yesterday, the potential revocation of the gay ban in Scouting, didn't even hit Fark's radar on any tab as far as I could tell.

Don't blame the platform, blame the users.


Was on the main tab, disguised as a thread about handkerchiefs and short pants.
 
2013-01-29 10:51:33 PM  

atomicmask: Why is it when a nut commits a crime, the first thing we wanna discuss is the tools he used rather then the fact he is a raving farking nut that built a bunker and kidnapped a kid?


Physics?
 
2013-01-29 10:52:23 PM  

DoctorCal: PanicMan: DoctorCal: PanicMan: DoctorCal: This thread is trending hard toward the single issue posters. Everybody else needs to step it up.

Okay. Boiled peanuts are awesome. You just have to eat them right away. Otherwise you have soggy lukewarm mush.

I'm eating as fast as I can.

/and two more Just Guns have arrived

Are you familiar with the Boll Weevil Monument, and the Alabama Peanut Festival?

I am not. How much weight could a guy like me pack on during such an event?


People save up all year for the Peanut Festival. Every hotel is booked solid. It's a big deal.

In Enterprise (a few miles away) there is a monument to the Boll Weevil. Back in the day, it ate all the cotton, and the farmers had to find a new cash crop. They made so much more money on peanuts, they erected a white marble statue of a lady holding a giant black bug in the center of town, in a fountain.

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2013-01-29 10:52:24 PM  

ph0rk: coeyagi: Kygz: A school bus newsflash at like 9:30 pm? Yeah, fark!

Um, one of the biggest news stories of the day yesterday, the potential revocation of the gay ban in Scouting, didn't even hit Fark's radar on any tab as far as I could tell.

Don't blame the platform, blame the users.

Was on the main tab, disguised as a thread about handkerchiefs and short pants.


God damnit.
 
2013-01-29 10:52:42 PM  

mediablitz: way south: "Alabama school bus driver shot pushed out of window, six-year-old child taken hostage"

There, I fixed it so the gun ban crowd can feel better about the headline.

That afraid to address America's violent gun culture, are ya? Even DISCUSSING it means "ban guns".

How very enlightened of you!


We should be discussing an ongoing standoff, for starters. The gun culture is not what is causing violence in America.
Secondly, you missed the reference.

/Thats ok, FARK is a younger crowd and it was vague.
 
2013-01-29 10:52:56 PM  

Bontesla: LadySusan: Gun deaths are horrible. When someone has good data that show a solution I'll be willing to listen. In the meantime I'd rather worry about lack of adequate health care where the real horrible and unnecessary causes of death occur.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm

Gun deaths aren't even much of a statistic here.

Ah. So what's your acceptable threshold of gun deaths? At what point is it too much?


I'm a libbie lib liberal. I think they are all horrible. The problem is, the data just doesn't show how to prevent them. In the meantime, while folks are trying some things out to maybe get good data and a good solution, I'd rather focus on bigger causes of horrible death.

My hypothesis is that it's primarily bad culture mixed with some mental illness. Apparently Canada has more guns than cats and they have very few gun deaths (citation needed). If I were queen I would be focusing on some social changes to improve the culture so folks were less likely to decide that killing was a good idea. I'd also be funding the shiat out of brain research for better approaches to curing mental illness. Also world peace. I'd work on that too. And unicorns with sparkly rainbow farts. And an end to sentence fragments.
 
2013-01-29 10:52:57 PM  
Came in here for the Dirty Harry references, leaving satisfied

/seriously though, this shiat is happening way too often
//but we can't dare to piss off our NRA overlords and speak of gun control measures, can we?
 
2013-01-29 10:53:15 PM  

ph0rk: atomicmask: Why is it when a nut commits a crime, the first thing we wanna discuss is the tools he used rather then the fact he is a raving farking nut that built a bunker and kidnapped a kid?

This is a NUT problem, not a gun problem.

Because many of us would like to live in an America where the nuts don't all have guns.


I would like to live in an america where the nuts are not free to have guns, knives, rope, or underground child holding bunkers.

Maybe we should ban the nuts instead of the guns?
 
2013-01-29 10:53:31 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Yeah, I get the 'innocent until proven guilty' thing, but would it be too much to ask, in circumstances like this at least, to have like a 90 day impound of all firearms until you have your court date?

Granted that sounds like a reasonable idea, but would it have been legal?


It should be, I think. I mean, the police found cause to arrest the guy, and he has a history of questionable behavior. I think that constitutes a viable threat to the public, under the circumstances.

/I'd be fine with having the evidence being presented to a judge and the impound order requiring judicial approval, but please... don't hesitate
 
2013-01-29 10:53:33 PM  

TheUltimateLink: Gun control laws won't protect ordinary citizens from people like this.


So you're saying that more robust screening processes for the purchase of firearms couldn't have stopped this certifiable nutcase from getting a gun and shooting someone? Somehow... I disagree with your assessment.
 
2013-01-29 10:53:33 PM  
"It's the craziest thing. He will be outside in his yard digging dirt at 2:30 in the morning," Davis, Jr. told the Eagle.

golly gee i wish there were some mental health assistance this guy could have gone to.
 
2013-01-29 10:53:34 PM  

coeyagi: muck4doo: coeyagi: 1) Person A, Weaver, says insane people should not have guns.
2) Person B, You, says that libs like him are coming for guns.
3) Person A, by extension, are basically saying you're insane because Person A is coming for your guns because he advocates that insane people shouldn't have guns.

Clear now?

I see what you are saying now. I agree with him insane people shouldn't have guns, and I did focus too much on his second point about the weapons rather than his first point about insane people. Your 3rd point still doesn't make sense.

Doesn't make sense..... to you.

Third time's the charm maybe?

Ok, if Weaver says insane people shouldn't have guns, and then you think he's coming for your guns, you're basically admitting that you're insane. Because he isn't saying he's coming for all guns, just the guns of insane people.

Please God, if you exist, please make him understand this time.


I didn't say he's coming for my guns. He said the argument had merit, because guns can kill a lot of people. I said matches and fuel can kill a lot of people too. I didn't say anything about Weaver taking my guns. Now you are making the stretch. Try not to hurt yourself.
 
2013-01-29 10:53:48 PM  

GAT_00: If only school bus drivers were armed, this would never happen!


Wow, super witty. Please post in every farking thread until the end of time.
 
2013-01-29 10:54:02 PM  

ph0rk: Person: White people, why you be so cray-cray?

Dwindling majority, obviously.


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Butterbean feels our pain.
 
2013-01-29 10:54:22 PM  
Bontesla
Ah. So what's your acceptable threshold of gun deaths? At what point is it too much?

Acceptable threshold of gun deaths is 1 for every predatory home invader, and 0.5 of every robber or miscreant home invader.

Also should provide limits for people killed by the authorized gun and badge crowd. Allowing them 0.001 of every drug user on uppers causing social disturbance, and 0.0 of every drug user on downers.
 
2013-01-29 10:54:55 PM  

BravadoGT: it's a really big-ass country with a lot of people in it.  shiat's gonna happen.  But Midland CIty, AL, Aurora, CO, Sandy Hook, CT?--they might was well be different countries.  And if this were Europe--they would be.  So it's not like there's some crisis happening in your backyard.  Well, unless you live in Chicago.  Then it might be.

Sorry about that.


you are a rare snippet of common sense. a slim commodity around these parts. amazing how few people ever put together the analogy of size / countries, because it's true.
 
2013-01-29 10:54:57 PM  

atomicmask: ph0rk: atomicmask: Why is it when a nut commits a crime, the first thing we wanna discuss is the tools he used rather then the fact he is a raving farking nut that built a bunker and kidnapped a kid?

This is a NUT problem, not a gun problem.

Because many of us would like to live in an America where the nuts don't all have guns.

I would like to live in an america where the nuts are not free to have guns, knives, rope, or underground child holding bunkers.

Maybe we should ban the nuts instead of the guns?


Absolutely. I'm all for mandatory mental health screenings - are you?
 
2013-01-29 10:55:17 PM  

PanicMan: DoctorCal: PanicMan: DoctorCal: PanicMan: DoctorCal: This thread is trending hard toward the single issue posters. Everybody else needs to step it up.

Okay. Boiled peanuts are awesome. You just have to eat them right away. Otherwise you have soggy lukewarm mush.

I'm eating as fast as I can.

/and two more Just Guns have arrived

Are you familiar with the Boll Weevil Monument, and the Alabama Peanut Festival?

I am not. How much weight could a guy like me pack on during such an event?

People save up all year for the Peanut Festival. Every hotel is booked solid. It's a big deal.

In Enterprise (a few miles away) there is a monument to the Boll Weevil. Back in the day, it ate all the cotton, and the farmers had to find a new cash crop. They made so much more money on peanuts, they erected a white marble statue of a lady holding a giant black bug in the center of town, in a fountain.

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I've driven by that fountain.
 
2013-01-29 10:55:21 PM  
Wait.

How were the kids dressed? Where they asking for it?
 
2013-01-29 10:55:27 PM  
Anna Nicole Smith's anus being remarkable could have prevented this.
 
2013-01-29 10:55:38 PM  

ph0rk: Absolutely. I'm all for mandatory mental health screenings - are you?


The problem is it conflicts with privacy, of course.

/Enter too soon.