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(The New York Times)   Your cute, fluffy cat is really a malevolent, cold-blooded murderer   (nytimes.com) divider line 191
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2013-01-29 07:25:44 PM  
In a report that scaled up local surveys and pilot studies to national dimensions, scientists from the Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute and the Fish and Wildlife Service estimated that domestic cats in the United States - both the pet Fluffies that spend part of the day outdoors and the unnamed strays and ferals that never leave it - kill a median of 2.4 billion birds and 12.3 billion mammals a year, most of them native mammals like shrews, chipmunks and voles rather than introduced pests like the Norway rat.

I don't really care if a pest is native or introduced.  I care that it's dead.

Is anyone really pining for more field mice in this country?
 
2013-01-29 07:44:15 PM  
Well, duh
 
2013-01-29 07:49:19 PM  
We're a long way from Caturday.
 
2013-01-29 07:56:48 PM  

snowjack: We're a long way from Caturday.


Caturday is Fark. This is News, dammit.
 
2013-01-29 08:02:43 PM  
Yeah, so?

Keep your kitties inside or confined in yard
ditto for the dogs
Spay and neuter your pets
Is that too hard to ask?
 
2013-01-29 08:06:31 PM  
yeah, but I love my fluffy little sociopathic kitty cats.
 
2013-01-29 08:28:08 PM  
Anyone who has ever known a car for more than a day knows this.
 
2013-01-29 08:28:48 PM  
Cat, not car. Damn you autocorrect.
 
2013-01-29 08:29:07 PM  
I wish. Jerks don't kill shiat around here.
 
2013-01-29 08:29:11 PM  
 
2013-01-29 08:29:47 PM  
Until my cat learns to twist the doorknob and work the elevator, she'll be in indoor cat. She did kill a roll of toilet paper the other day tho. Murdered it.
 
2013-01-29 08:30:24 PM  
What, is this even a surprise to anyone?
 
2013-01-29 08:30:30 PM  
Coyotes to the rescue?
 
2013-01-29 08:32:25 PM  
Uh... Duh... That's why cats are awesome.
 
2013-01-29 08:32:40 PM  
Yes, it is called nature. I swear some retards think that everything in nature is a Disney movie, with all animals living in harmony together and only if evil humans come around does any killing happen. No, not so much. Cats of all sizes and varieties are predators, birds are prey. That is how things go. Yes lots of birds die to cats, that is what it is.
 
2013-01-29 08:32:50 PM  

RexTalionis: What, is this even a surprise to anyone?


Because cats a cwute and fuzzy.
 
2013-01-29 08:32:53 PM  
I keep saying this... no one ever listens.


/Works with a wildlife rehabber.
 
2013-01-29 08:33:50 PM  
So?

I love my fluffy-wuffy-widdle-murderer!
 
2013-01-29 08:34:14 PM  
Trust me, this study doesn't apply to my cats. In 12.5 years, number of hours spent outside? 9. Creatures killed? 8 moths, 2 crickets, 1 mosquito (most by mistake.)

The only things they perpetually wreck are the litterbox, the food dish, and my testicles.
 
2013-01-29 08:34:41 PM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-01-29 08:34:57 PM  

Lsherm: Is anyone really pining for more field mice in this country?


Cats don't just prey on vermin, they prey on virtually everything that's smaller than them. It's one thing that they're killing rabbits and mice, but they also kill song birds and other animals that aren't a pest. They also reproduce like crazy and if there's a large cat population in an area they can devastate fauna.

People that let their domesticated cats roam are idiots.
 
2013-01-29 08:35:22 PM  

Lsherm: In a report that scaled up local surveys and pilot studies to national dimensions, scientists from the Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute and the Fish and Wildlife Service estimated that domestic cats in the United States - both the pet Fluffies that spend part of the day outdoors and the unnamed strays and ferals that never leave it - kill a median of 2.4 billion birds and 12.3 billion mammals a year, most of them native mammals like shrews, chipmunks and voles rather than introduced pests like the Norway rat.

I don't really care if a pest is native or introduced.  I care that it's dead.

Is anyone really pining for more field mice in this country?


Not pining but cats take away prey animals from others that actually eat them
 
2013-01-29 08:35:50 PM  
I do have a cat that has murdered his share of dust bunnies. Then he feels guilty and throws up.
 
2013-01-29 08:36:07 PM  

Lsherm: In a report that scaled up local surveys and pilot studies to national dimensions, scientists from the Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute and the Fish and Wildlife Service estimated that domestic cats in the United States - both the pet Fluffies that spend part of the day outdoors and the unnamed strays and ferals that never leave it - kill a median of 2.4 billion birds and 12.3 billion mammals a year, most of them native mammals like shrews, chipmunks and voles rather than introduced pests like the Norway rat.

I don't really care if a pest is native or introduced.  I care that it's dead.

Is anyone really pining for more field mice in this country?


Well those birds are pining...PINING FOR THE FJORDS!
 
2013-01-29 08:36:08 PM  
So cats would rather kill off the the non threatening/harassing species than go after the rats and mice they should be hunting. I tell you it's a conspiracy.
 
2013-01-29 08:36:41 PM  
www.katzy.dsl.pipex.com
/murderous
 
2013-01-29 08:36:44 PM  
Oh, not this crap again!

The same (only thinly-veiled) shills for PeTA that put out these "studies" always fail to mention one single and very pertinent fact...

That fact is that feral domestic cats have merely taken over the natural role of the bobcat or the lynx in human-populated areas.

Apparently bobcats and lynxes live off of prana.
 
2013-01-29 08:37:04 PM  
This makes me feel better about the fact that I throw our idiot cat against the wall every time it is dumb enough to get near me.
 
2013-01-29 08:37:12 PM  

Treygreen13: Anyone who has ever known a carsandbar67: Until my cat learns to twist the doorknob and work the elevator, she'll be in indoor cat. She did kill a roll of toilet paper the other day tho. Murdered it.

for more than a day knows this.


In the biblical sense?

They make shiatty-apartment-living tolerable. No roaches, mice, etc.
 
2013-01-29 08:38:00 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Cats don't just prey on vermin, they prey on virtually everything that's smaller than them.


All you said is true, but cats also quite frequently are too stupid to know when they are outmatched, and will take on raccoons, groundhogs, and other animals that will kill them in a fight.

Problem is, cat bites are so damned prone to infection that both sides usually lose. The cat can usually find someone who will tend to its wounds if it gets to a house. The other goes off to die.
 
2013-01-29 08:38:03 PM  
hmmmm... not sure what that was about...
 
2013-01-29 08:38:16 PM  

Weaver95: yeah, but I love my fluffy little sociopathic kitty cats.


Me too.
Sometimes they do bring me 'presents'.
They are predators, obligate carnivores...hard-wired to hunt and kill.
Mine are 'fixed', chipped, regularly vaccinated...and as far as I can, I allow them to be cats.

I am rewarded by having very loving, trusting, affectionate little psychopaths who answer to ME companions.
 
2013-01-29 08:38:19 PM  

Kriggerel: Oh, not this crap again!

The same (only thinly-veiled) shills for PeTA that put out these "studies" always fail to mention one single and very pertinent fact...

That fact is that feral domestic cats have merely taken over the natural role of the bobcat or the lynx in human-populated areas.

Apparently bobcats and lynxes live off of prana.


I thought prana only lived in the Amazon.
 
2013-01-29 08:38:44 PM  
So, basically, they're small versions of people.
 
2013-01-29 08:39:26 PM  

fsbilly: hmmmm... not sure what that was about...


Now I know... Long day...
 
2013-01-29 08:39:34 PM  
The estimated kill rates are two to four times higher than mortality figures previously bandied about, and position the domestic cat as one of the single greatest human-linked threats to wildlife in the nation. More birds and mammals die at the mouths of cats, the report said, than from automobile strikes, pesticides and poisons, collisions with skyscrapers and windmills and other so-called anthropogenic causes.

Poppycock. The cat population goes through natural cycles. In a few years, theyll be killing LESS than previously estimated totals. There is no anthropogenic link. This is just the lamestream media trying to give Nobama an excuse to take away our cats.
 
2013-01-29 08:39:54 PM  

sycraft: Yes, it is called nature. I swear some retards think that everything in nature is a Disney movie, with all animals living in harmony together and only if evil humans come around does any killing happen. No, not so much. Cats of all sizes and varieties are predators, birds are prey. That is how things go. Yes lots of birds die to cats, that is what it is.


It's almost like the domestication of cats has afforded them a privileged status within this "nature" thing you're on about and human protection effectively allows them to operate as an apex predator where they otherwise would not have been....

But, no, I'm sure you're perfectly justified in calling other people "retards" for not understanding natural processes....
 
2013-01-29 08:40:12 PM  
api.ning.com

Not a chipmunk in sight
 
2013-01-29 08:40:18 PM  
I"ve known people who have killed people but I never saw the look of pleasure as seen in the eyes of a cat torturing a baby bunny. the cat had literally tore baby bunny's fur all off, excepting the head, and left it a mewling, crying, boody, shivering mess

"well go on then, damn it!" I told the cat.

Came back five minutes later and baby bunny had no more head

yes, it suffered. and the cat liked that.
 
2013-01-29 08:40:28 PM  
My cat stays inside for the most part. I have a privacy-fenced back yard, so, if she sprints out, I just wait a few minutes and she is yowling at the door to get back in. She is inside 99% of the time. I don't think she had ever killed a bird. Lizards and bugs unlucky enough to get in the house, though.
 
2013-01-29 08:40:30 PM  
i.imgur.com

dogs > Bubonic plague > cats
 
2013-01-29 08:40:56 PM  
Most of what cats kill are vermin, and good riddance. Hunting vermin is what early man took cats in for in the first place.
 
2013-01-29 08:41:00 PM  
'You're welcome'.
-- the cat
 
2013-01-29 08:41:18 PM  
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-01-29 08:41:56 PM  

sycraft: Yes, it is called nature. I swear some retards think that everything in nature is a Disney movie, with all animals living in harmony together and only if evil humans come around does any killing happen. No, not so much. Cats of all sizes and varieties are predators, birds are prey. That is how things go. Yes lots of birds die to cats, that is what it is.


Tell that to the small animals in Guam Link
/If you can find any
 
2013-01-29 08:42:16 PM  

lilplatinum: This makes me feel better about the fact that I throw our idiot cat against the wall every time it is dumb enough to get near me.


Not remotely funny
 
2013-01-29 08:42:47 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Lsherm: Is anyone really pining for more field mice in this country?

Cats don't just prey on vermin, they prey on virtually everything that's smaller than them. It's one thing that they're killing rabbits and mice, but they also kill song birds and other animals that aren't a pest. They also reproduce like crazy and if there's a large cat population in an area they can devastate fauna.

People that let their domesticated cats roam are idiots.


I think the growing urban and suburban coyote populations in North America will take care of the feral cat problem in due time.

The question I would have is if the cats didn't eat those songbirds, what would? Bobcats? weasels? Having uncontrolled songbird populations is probably bad in some other way we haven't discovered yet.

Recommended reading on predator-prey balance on the China-Mongolia border...about wolves and sheep, and how wiping out predator species can jack up an ecosystem.

/see also: wiping out wolves here in the eastern US, and the explosion of deer.
//my dog's a better hunter than my old cat ever was.
 
2013-01-29 08:42:58 PM  
FTFA: "...shocking new truth..."

Nope.
 
2013-01-29 08:43:03 PM  

Kriggerel: Oh, not this crap again!

The same (only thinly-veiled) shills for PeTA that put out these "studies" always fail to mention one single and very pertinent fact...

That fact is that feral domestic cats have merely taken over the natural role of the bobcat or the lynx in human-populated areas.

Apparently bobcats and lynxes live off of prana.


Gosh, I hope not. I have a cat named Prana.
 
2013-01-29 08:44:16 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
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