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2013-01-29 07:39:08 PM
She'll get eaten alive.
 
2013-01-29 08:43:43 PM

DarwiOdrade: She'll get eaten alive.



In every sense of the word.
 
2013-01-29 08:53:51 PM

DarwiOdrade: She'll get eaten alive.


She's well marbled.

No Rush Holt? No Frank Pallone (my congressman)?

/the way Christie is riding the wave, it's going to tough for anyone.
 
2013-01-29 09:18:13 PM
Well, it's not going to suck itself.
 
2013-01-29 09:20:58 PM
New Jersey is one of the few states in the union that should legitimately be a red state. Highest incomes in the country, highest tax rates, and the least benefit per dollar of federal tax revenue paid. As much as Chris Christie comes off as a right-wing lunatic, at least it doesn't seem quite so hypocritical for the state to elect him.
 
2013-01-29 09:26:56 PM
Christie = the shining example of my right wing friends (I live in Oklahoma) for when I bring up the fact that the GOP = Dixiecrats and is now just a regional party and not a national one.

I like to mention that Oklahoma had a democratic governor last time, so local politics do not translate well to national polls.

/they grasp what they can
//try really hard to not use the n-bomb in front of black ppl
 
2013-01-29 09:29:02 PM
More fat jokes from childish libs.
 
2013-01-29 09:31:17 PM
What's wrong with the Abe Vigoda of Jersey pols?

static1.businessinsider.com
 
2013-01-29 09:42:25 PM

Rich Cream: What's wrong with the Abe Vigoda of Jersey pols?


Ouch!

/totally needs to be replaced with any polican that's still alive

He should have stepped aside long ago.
 
2013-01-29 09:50:40 PM
We need to recognize that anyone vs. Christie is gonna be a sacrificial lamb and treat the next US Senate race as the Democrat top of the ticket. Which means finding a strong replacement for Lautenberg and having a replacement ready for Menendez if he really is dicking Dominican hookers.
 
2013-01-29 09:53:13 PM
If Booker decided he'd rather not run against Christie, no Democrat stands a chance.
 
2013-01-29 10:02:10 PM

Silly Jesus: More fat jokes from childish libs.


Cry moar, then make a TelePrompTer joke
 
2013-01-29 10:04:40 PM
I have a buddy who lives in NJ who can best be described as Gordon Gekko at work and Nelson Mandela when it comes to personal political feelings. This man owns maybe the largest collection of Che Guevara shirts known to man. He cuts his hair and shaves once a quarter - possibly - yet still manages to find to to attend NYC entrepreneur cocktail parties for business owners. He's voted for Obama twice.

And last I talked to him, he said he'd vote for Christie.

The democrat has no chance in this race. Surely the democrats can find some old bull out there in state politics to give it one last dance in the ring. They wouldn't dare let a rising star get eviscerated.
 
2013-01-29 10:14:22 PM

Frozboz: If Booker decided he'd rather not run against Christie, no Democrat stands a chance.


Agreed.

No Dem is gonna beat Christie in all likelihood which makes finding anyone willing to run a challenge to begin with so I'm not too surprised at the pick here.

/Slim pickings are slim.
 
2013-01-29 10:22:27 PM
i'm still hoping Christie gets challenged by the Teabaggers.

he will still win of course, but the derp fest would be amazing.

hey. is Carl Paladino busy?
 
2013-01-29 10:26:34 PM

DarwiOdrade: Silly Jesus: More fat jokes from childish libs.

Cry moar, then make a TelePrompTer joke


He did the 57 states a couple threads back... cause that one is so CLASSIC
 
2013-01-29 10:37:35 PM

dumbobruni: i'm still hoping Christie gets challenged by the Teabaggers.

he will still win of course, but the derp fest would be amazing.

hey. is Carl Paladino busy?


Wrong state.

Paladino's from New York. Upstate New York no less.
 
2013-01-29 10:38:03 PM
Christie has already pulled in $2 million, and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg is hosting a fundraiser for him in California next month.

If you need another reason to hate Zuckerberg, there you go.
 
2013-01-29 10:46:05 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: dumbobruni: i'm still hoping Christie gets challenged by the Teabaggers.

he will still win of course, but the derp fest would be amazing.

hey. is Carl Paladino busy?

Wrong state.

Paladino's from New York. Upstate New York no less.


you're not familiar with carpetbagging i guess.

/it worked for Hillary
 
2013-01-29 10:46:48 PM

This Face Left Blank: Christie has already pulled in $2 million, and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg is hosting a fundraiser for him in California next month.

If you need another reason to hate Zuckerberg, there you go.


Hating people for simply espousing a worldview that differs from your own is certain evidence of enlightened superiority.
 
2013-01-29 10:52:35 PM

GoldSpider: This Face Left Blank: Christie has already pulled in $2 million, and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg is hosting a fundraiser for him in California next month.

If you need another reason to hate Zuckerberg, there you go.

Hating people for simply espousing a worldview that differs from your own is certain evidence of enlightened superiority.


Nah, I hate Zuckerburg for being born in New York, going to school in Massachusetts, living in California and pumping money into a New Jersey gubernatorial election.

That, and farkin' Facebook.
 
2013-01-29 10:56:32 PM

This Face Left Blank: Nah, I hate Zuckerburg for being born in New York, going to school in Massachusetts, living in California and pumping money into a New Jersey gubernatorial election.


That's reasonable, I'm sure.
 
2013-01-29 10:57:49 PM

GoldSpider: This Face Left Blank: Nah, I hate Zuckerburg for being born in New York, going to school in Massachusetts, living in California and pumping money into a New Jersey gubernatorial election.

That's reasonable, I'm sure.

I'm glad you agree.
 
2013-01-29 10:59:57 PM

Frozboz: If Booker decided he'd rather not run against Christie, no Democrat stands a chance.


i.ytimg.com

We coming for you, Christie!
 
2013-01-29 11:03:16 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: DarwiOdrade: Silly Jesus: More fat jokes from childish libs.

Cry moar, then make a TelePrompTer joke

He did the 57 states a couple threads back... cause that one is so CLASSIC


It's okay when HE does it. He's DIFFERENT... SPECIAL...
 
2013-01-29 11:04:06 PM

GoldSpider: Hating people for simply espousing a worldview that differs from your own is certain evidence of enlightened superiority.


*rants about Israel*
 
2013-01-29 11:11:37 PM

BigJake: GoldSpider: Hating people for simply espousing a worldview that differs from your own is certain evidence of enlightened superiority.

*rants about Israel*


i51.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-29 11:15:26 PM

o5iiawah: I have a buddy who lives in NJ who can best be described as Gordon Gekko at work and Nelson Mandela when it comes to personal political feelings. This man owns maybe the largest collection of Che Guevara shirts known to man. He cuts his hair and shaves once a quarter - possibly - yet still manages to find to to attend NYC entrepreneur cocktail parties for business owners. He's voted for Obama twice.

And last I talked to him, he said he'd vote for Christie.

The democrat has no chance in this race. Surely the democrats can find some old bull out there in state politics to give it one last dance in the ring. They wouldn't dare let a rising star get eviscerated.


I freely admit that Christie was not on my radar before the RNC. Though I've ID'd as a Democrat, a conservative one, for the past 10 yrs, I watched the convention. Romney is a turd and I wanted to watch them try to polish him. Christie did speak well and intelligently. I was further impressed when he flipped the bird to the GOP and was professional and polite to the President. He and the citizens of NJ got a swift kick in the balls for that from Congress and Fox. I defer to NJ residents to weigh in on his history, but if he ushers in an era of non-crazy, hateful or ignorant Republicans, I welcome him.
 
2013-01-29 11:21:16 PM
Dems need to pound on Christie, hard. They have to convince the populace to weigh his hurricane Sandy actions against feeding his fat-cat friend at the expense of heavy-handed union busting.
 
2013-01-29 11:30:24 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Dems need to pound on Christie, hard. They have to convince the populace to weigh his hurricane Sandy actions against feeding his fat-cat friend at the expense of heavy-handed union busting.


Rudy Giulani (sp) impressed post 9/11 with his....leadership? Handling of the catastrophe? Anyone with a brain, and a mind for research, found out he was pretty much loathed by his constituents once he launched his iLl-fated Presidential launch. Christie will have to explain himself on the points you raised if he steps up to contend for the big chair.
 
2013-01-29 11:33:16 PM

CptnSpldng: We need to recognize that anyone vs. Christie is gonna be a sacrificial lamb and treat the next US Senate race as the Democrat top of the ticket. Which means finding a strong replacement for Lautenberg and having a replacement ready for Menendez if he really is dicking Dominican hookers.


I think Booker was maybe considering a run, but Christie's goodwill tour with Obama no doubt ensured that Dems would run a sacrificial lamb against him. That's just how politics goes: help me out, and we'll take care of you (until your Presidential run).

I'd say Booker's headed to the U.S. Senate (possibly with Christie's endorsement -- and if not, Christie won't do much for the Republican opponent) They're the only two in the state with major national recognition, and it makes FAR more sense for both of their futures to play nice instead of beating each other down.
 
2013-01-29 11:52:09 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Dems need to pound on Christie, hard. They have to convince the populace to weigh his hurricane Sandy actions against feeding his fat-cat friend at the expense of heavy-handed union busting.


Well, aside from the fact that I'm sure there's an informal agreement with Christie to essentially let him have reelection without a fight in exchange for his Obama friendship tour, now's not the best time to take him out.

While Christie has the like-ability for a Presidential run, the "true conservatives" will eviscerate him in the primary, and, should he get the nomination, he'll likely get hit hard from the left AND the right during the general election. (I would bet money that if Christie or another so-called GOP-e candidate gets the nomination, the base will get a far-right loon to run as a third party candidate. after McCain and Romney they are absolutely convinced that their problem has been being too moderate.)

Moreover, the campaign schedule necessary for a Presidential run would almost certainly give Christie a heart attack, immediately scaring voters away from the Republican ticket.
 
2013-01-29 11:57:04 PM

JadedRaverLA: I'd say Booker's headed to the U.S. Senate (possibly with Christie's endorsement -- and if not, Christie won't do much for the Republican opponent) They're the only two in the state with major national recognition, and it makes FAR more sense for both of their futures to play nice instead of beating each other down.


Frank Lautenberg is 89 years old, just got through a bout with cancer, and his term is up in 2014. That will be Booker's next promotion, and woe to anyone that has to debate him.
 
2013-01-30 12:09:57 AM

chimp_ninja: JadedRaverLA: I'd say Booker's headed to the U.S. Senate (possibly with Christie's endorsement -- and if not, Christie won't do much for the Republican opponent) They're the only two in the state with major national recognition, and it makes FAR more sense for both of their futures to play nice instead of beating each other down.

Frank Lautenberg is 89 years old, just got through a bout with cancer, and his term is up in 2014. That will be Booker's next promotion, and woe to anyone that has to debate him.


I agree, unless Menendez is out sooner due to the potential scandal. Either way, I fully expect the Republicans to not even try for the seat, just as the Democrats aren't trying for the governorship.

Christie and Booker are both political "superstars" and the state parties are both smart enough to stay out of each others way.
 
2013-01-30 01:15:00 AM
I disagree with Christie on a lot of issues. I'm hoping he doesn't win, but a loss seems unlikely. Our debacle with Corzine was awful, but the question is if Christie will learn from his predecessor's mistakes. A story was recently floated about Christie's interest in privatizing the lottery. Not sure how many people watch Jersey politics, but privatizing our toll roads was what drove a stake through the heart of the Corzine re-election campaign (and with good reason, it was an incredibly stupid idea). I'm not sure if Christie will learn from that, but if he doesn't I expect lots of anger. If anything kills his chance of re-election, it's that.
 
2013-01-30 01:23:33 AM
JadedRaverLA:
While Christie has the like-ability for a Presidential run, the "true conservatives" will eviscerate him in the primary, and, should he get the nomination, he'll likely get hit hard from the left AND the right during the general election. (I would bet money that if Christie or another so-called GOP-e candidate gets the nomination, the base will get a far-right loon to run as a third party candidate. after McCain and Romney they are absolutely convinced that their problem has been being too moderate.)

Moreover, the campaign schedule necessary for a Presidential run would almost certainly give Christie a heart attack, immediately scaring voters away from the Republican ticket.

I'm not sure honestly. The bad news for Christie is that he's in a rather liberal state, and he'll be tarred and feathered for his beliefs and because he's not a radical. The good news for Christie is that he'll take it and spew it back on his opposition in ways they don't expect. I have this belief that if Christie had been on stage during the debate where the republican candidates stood silent while the crowd boo-ed the gay soldier (marine? I forget and can't be bothered to look it up), he would have collectively told off the audience and then the rest of them for not saying anything. It's something he would do. And there would be people who would respond to that with votes. I'm just not sure they would be Republican votes...
 
2013-01-30 01:41:16 AM

Jurodan: Moreover, the campaign schedule necessary for a Presidential run would almost certainly give Christie a heart attack, immediately scaring voters away from the Republican ticket.


Nah.. right now I'm trying to envision Christie doing P90X before 2016
 
2013-01-30 02:44:01 AM

The Bestest: Jurodan: Moreover, the campaign schedule necessary for a Presidential run would almost certainly give Christie a heart attack, immediately scaring voters away from the Republican ticket.

Nah.. right now I'm trying to envision Christie doing P90X before 2016


Really? I always pictured him as more of a yoga yogurt pudding man myself.
 
2013-01-30 07:08:27 AM

This Face Left Blank: Christie has already pulled in $2 million, and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg is hosting a fundraiser for him in California next month.

If you need another reason to hate Zuckerberg, there you go.


Being as you don't live in or vote in NJ you're just an ass. Ass ass ass. and now everyone on the internet knows it. Ass. You have no clue as to how the rich and powerful work together or how much the school children of NJ have benefited from the generosity of Mark Zuckerberg. Ass.
 
2013-01-30 07:17:21 AM

KrispyKritter: This Face Left Blank: Christie has already pulled in $2 million, and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg is hosting a fundraiser for him in California next month.

If you need another reason to hate Zuckerberg, there you go.

Being as you don't live in or vote in NJ you're just an ass. Ass ass ass. and now everyone on the internet knows it. Ass. You have no clue as to how the rich and powerful work together or how much the school children of NJ have benefited from the generosity of Mark Zuckerberg. Ass.


So, it's a secret that only you know?
 
2013-01-30 07:26:45 AM

Alphax: KrispyKritter: This Face Left Blank: Christie has already pulled in $2 million, and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg is hosting a fundraiser for him in California next month.

If you need another reason to hate Zuckerberg, there you go.

Being as you don't live in or vote in NJ you're just an ass. Ass ass ass. and now everyone on the internet knows it. Ass. You have no clue as to how the rich and powerful work together or how much the school children of NJ have benefited from the generosity of Mark Zuckerberg. Ass.

So, it's a secret that only you know?


$100 million into the Newark school system.
 
2013-01-30 07:43:57 AM

Jurodan: JadedRaverLA:
While Christie has the like-ability for a Presidential run, the "true conservatives" will eviscerate him in the primary, and, should he get the nomination, he'll likely get hit hard from the left AND the right during the general election. (I would bet money that if Christie or another so-called GOP-e candidate gets the nomination, the base will get a far-right loon to run as a third party candidate. after McCain and Romney they are absolutely convinced that their problem has been being too moderate.)

Moreover, the campaign schedule necessary for a Presidential run would almost certainly give Christie a heart attack, immediately scaring voters away from the Republican ticket.

I'm not sure honestly. The bad news for Christie is that he's in a rather liberal state, and he'll be tarred and feathered for his beliefs and because he's not a radical. The good news for Christie is that he'll take it and spew it back on his opposition in ways they don't expect. I have this belief that if Christie had been on stage during the debate where the republican candidates stood silent while the crowd boo-ed the gay soldier (marine? I forget and can't be bothered to look it up), he would have collectively told off the audience and then the rest of them for not saying anything. It's something he would do. And there would be people who would respond to that with votes. I'm just not sure they would be Republican votes...


I'm not sure he's as virtuous as you think. He's just as craven as the rest of the Republican field- if he thinks it would give him a political edge to do what you said in that scenario, he probably would scold the crowd.

I agree that right now he's going to be hard to beat- but some people remember that:

-he cost the state $400m in Federal school funds because of a stupid fight with the teachers union on who was going to submit the application.
-he pushed through a HUGE toll increase to help pay for a Trans-Hudson rail tunnel- which he then cancelled. It costs about $15 IIRC to travel the 150 mile length of the NJ Turnpike.
-NJ unemployment is the highest in the region
-He's a classic bully: He'll pick fights with the media or some teacher making $40k but he won't challenge the Republican status quo. Remember that 2 days after he was seen praising the President, he ran onto FoxNews at Rupert Murdoch's orders to reiterate his support for Romney.

Christie on the national stage (if he doesn't break it that is) is a noun, a verb, and Hurricane Sandy.
 
2013-01-30 09:47:35 AM
Whatever. Wake me up when Christie runs for president.
 
2013-01-30 11:15:49 AM

DarwiOdrade: She'll get eaten alive.


When you KNOW you're going to lose anyway, pick someone who will appeal to voting blocks you will need for other offices on the same ballot and in future elections.
 
2013-01-30 11:43:39 AM

dumbobruni: i'm still hoping Christie gets challenged by the Teabaggers.

he will still win of course, but the derp fest would be amazing.

hey. is Carl Paladino busy?


How many of them are actually in NJ? I thought the Tea Party was more of a Southern & (Mountain) West thing...

/ toss in some flyover states like Indiana as well..
 
2013-01-30 12:20:14 PM

KrispyKritter: This Face Left Blank: Christie has already pulled in $2 million, and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg is hosting a fundraiser for him in California next month.

If you need another reason to hate Zuckerberg, there you go.

Being as you don't live in or vote in NJ you're just an ass. Ass ass ass. and now everyone on the internet knows it. Ass. You have no clue as to how the rich and powerful work together or how much the school children of NJ have benefited from the generosity of Mark Zuckerberg. Ass.


I'll assume you're right about his donations. Doesn't cost me anything. So, assuming that, why the FARK would Zuckerburg contribute to NJ, when he doesn't seem to have any connection to the state? Did he throw darts at a map to decide where to donate? Kinda random.

On second thought, don't answer that. Go fark yourself, and felch the resulting santorum and dickcheese, you syphilitic man-mattress.
 
2013-01-30 04:56:42 PM

freetomato: I freely admit that Christie was not on my radar before the RNC. Though I've ID'd as a Democrat, a conservative one, for the past 10 yrs, I watched the convention. Romney is a turd and I wanted to watch them try to polish him. Christie did speak well and intelligently. I was further impressed when he flipped the bird to the GOP and was professional and polite to the President. He and the citizens of NJ got a swift kick in the balls for that from Congress and Fox. I defer to NJ residents to weigh in on his history, but if he ushers in an era of non-crazy, hateful or ignorant Republicans, I welcome him.


Most of the NJ-ites I know are happy with him. His first job as gov after all is to work tirelessly to help his state and so regardless of which party he registers as or what the national GOP might want him to do, he's going to do what he thinks is right. Even those NJ democrats of which there are many like him because even though they might disagree politically, they at least know what they are waking up to each morning.

If he can continue to get NJ competitive, not with 9% income tax NY but 3% income tax PA then it would be hard to argue against a national run - and rightfully so.
 
2013-01-30 08:30:09 PM
I don't care what political party he's from. He's done a fine job trying to clean up this mess of a state.
 
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