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(Talking Points Memo)   NRA: We can't catch every criminal out there, so why bother with background checks at all?   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 46
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2013-01-29 05:10:18 PM  
5 votes:
If we criminalize chicken farking, only criminals will fark chickens.
2013-01-29 06:01:14 PM  
4 votes:
You libtards keep failing to understand one simple fact: NRA members don't need intelligence, logic or reason to settle disputes. That's what the guns are for.
2013-01-29 05:36:49 PM  
4 votes:
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2013-01-29 04:56:29 PM  
4 votes:
When the Russians and Cubans invade America, they'll pull the gun owner permit files and know who has guns that need taking away! Has no one watched Red Dawn!  I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!  -Wayne LaPierre
2013-01-29 05:33:21 PM  
3 votes:
Why bother owning guns? They can't protect you against every possible threat...
2013-01-29 05:27:05 PM  
3 votes:

moos: I anecdote, and so should you


For moment, I thought someone hijacked my account.
2013-01-29 06:03:54 PM  
2 votes:

violentsalvation: "When it comes to the issue of background checks, let's be honest - background checks will never be 'universal' - because criminals will never submit to them," LaPierre's testimony reads.

So where's he wrong? And where did he say to do away with all background checks altogether? Oh wait he isn't, and he didn't. He is asking people like subtard to be realistic with their expectations for gun-violence reduction before knee jerking useless laws into place.

But no, OOGABOOGA NRA HERPADERP! Right, subtard?


The only real answer to gun violence is killing gun owners, that's the NRA position.
2013-01-29 06:02:54 PM  
2 votes:

Shaggy_C: Funny, this same "banning things doesn't work" argument gets used time and time again in marijuana legalization threads. I guess it all depends on whether the potentially banned item is near and dear to your heart or not, eh?


You're so right. That's why all those senseless marijuana deaths will continue.
2013-01-29 05:58:26 PM  
2 votes:
LaPierre: " Nor do we believe the government should dictate what we can lawfully own and use to protect our families."

I cannot think of a single person I know who uses a gun to protect their family. But I do know many people who own guns that use them as a penile perception embellishment device. This includes the wimmin.
2013-01-30 10:21:09 AM  
1 votes:

Thrag: tenpoundsofcheese: lennavan: I mean, you don't hear people biatching about how you have to register your newborn baby with the government

You have to register a new born baby with the government?
Which government is that?

Wow, a right winger who has never heard of a birth certificate. Who would have thought such a thing could exist in this day and age?


Especially given all the attention the far right wingers have given to birth certificates.

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2013-01-29 09:06:50 PM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: lennavan: I mean, you don't hear people biatching about how you have to register your newborn baby with the government

You have to register a new born baby with the government?
Which government is that?


Wow, a right winger who has never heard of a birth certificate. Who would have thought such a thing could exist in this day and age?
2013-01-29 08:59:39 PM  
1 votes:
Gun free zones = juicy target for criminals because there's no guns

Houses with guns = juicy target for criminals because there's guns

Gun threads are very educational.
2013-01-29 07:27:43 PM  
1 votes:
I once dropped a thing on the floor, and it broke.

That's just so stupid. Why do we even have things?
2013-01-29 07:27:43 PM  
1 votes:
This is why the NRA will fail.

This is why when the NRA fails, a defender of guns right for reasonable law abiding citizens, (not just the American gun cartel), is necessary.

/And you will still have people arguing a ar-15 with a 30 round clip is useful for suburban home defense, just because they can.
//I need fragmentation hand grenades for home defense.
2013-01-29 07:16:21 PM  
1 votes:

BraveNewCheneyWorld: The unintended consequence of making background checks widespread is that the demand for black-market guns will go up, which means law abiding owners will be targeted more frequently for their guns. But somehow I doubt the gun grabbers will be too broken up about law abiding gun owners being murdered for the sake of their feel good policies.


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Hey how come you never came back to prove your media conspiracy this morning? You were so confident. Were you busy doing research in to how registering guns will lead to the wholesale murder of gun owners?
2013-01-29 07:03:45 PM  
1 votes:
True idiocy is on full display
Yes of course, it's from the damned NRA
Their war against common sense
Remains incredibly intense-
LaPierre's head vehemently bobbing in the fray
2013-01-29 06:58:52 PM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: lennavan: I mean, you don't hear people biatching about how you have to register your newborn baby with the government

You have to register a new born baby with the government?
Which government is that?


The United States government. This is news to you?
2013-01-29 06:54:25 PM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: He never said they shouldn't be done.
He just said there is no point (this isn't the solution you are looking for) because criminals won't follow the law anyway.


Sweet. So then he isn't against background checks and we can enact legislation with universal background checks then. I mean, he'll think we're wasting our time but that's all.
2013-01-29 06:46:55 PM  
1 votes:

justtray: justtray: gilgigamesh: Ow! That was my feelings!: Well, I respecfully disagree and will oppose any registration scheme.

Why?

This is where it gets fun. And by fun, I mean crazy.

Ow! That was my feelings!: gilgigamesh: Ow! That was my feelings!: Well, I respecfully disagree and will oppose any registration scheme.

Why?

Honestly, I don't trust the government to NOT use that registration listing as means at confiscation down the road. It has already happened in this country. Yeah, yeah, call me paranoid, I don't care.

Amazing simulpost.


Wow, you're right.  Same post at the same instant.  That may be a Fark first.

Cigarette?
2013-01-29 06:43:27 PM  
1 votes:

justtray: gilgigamesh: Ow! That was my feelings!: Well, I respecfully disagree and will oppose any registration scheme.

Why?

This is where it gets fun. And by fun, I mean crazy.


Ow! That was my feelings!: gilgigamesh: Ow! That was my feelings!: Well, I respecfully disagree and will oppose any registration scheme.

Why?

Honestly, I don't trust the government to NOT use that registration listing as means at confiscation down the road. It has already happened in this country. Yeah, yeah, call me paranoid, I don't care.


Amazing simulpost.
2013-01-29 06:42:45 PM  
1 votes:

Somacandra: Ow! That was my feelings!: I explained upthread how to handle these checks without registration, which I would support. Registration? no farking way.

No you didn't. You asked how a universal background check would be enforced. Registration/Tort Liability would be a start. You suggested you don't need to register a car if you only keep it on your property--attempting an analogy to a firearm. I told you even if that was true that no one in hell would buy a gun and NOT TAKE IT OFF YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT'S COMPLETE IDIOCY. A transfer of ownership includes a transfer to a new space. I'm not going to move in to your spare bedroom to access the gun I just bought from you anymore than I would do that with a car I bought from you. I don't care how you 'feel' about registration--you need to provide some objective reason that stands up better than "I'll keep the firearm/car I sold you at my place so we don't have to register it." The Founders and their state governments registered firearms. There is no reason I can think of to not do it now.


It's possible, at this point, I'm regretting the vehicle analogy.
2013-01-29 06:37:06 PM  
1 votes:
The NRA is a terrorist organization.
2013-01-29 06:22:39 PM  
1 votes:

enry: We've beeen able to make cars safer without banning them.


The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a car is a good guy with a car.
2013-01-29 06:18:27 PM  
1 votes:
Friend of my dad once got pulled over, started complaining to the cop about how there were other drivers speeding and while he was the one who got pulled over. Cop replied "Ever been fishing?" Guy said yes, cop said, "You catch all the fish?"

Lack of perfection is a bullshiat/lazy/whinging reason to not try.
2013-01-29 06:02:45 PM  
1 votes:
Why bother having babies? We're all going to die.
2013-01-29 05:58:26 PM  
1 votes:

Ow! That was my feelings!: I have a fourth amendment right to privacy. What I own is none of your or the governments business. It's not a hard concept


I suppose you don't own a car then, seeing as how you have to register that thing you own with the government.
2013-01-29 05:57:24 PM  
1 votes:
Can one of our conservative friends please explain something to me? Like I'm 5 years old please:

How is creating a registry of gun ownership any more intrusive/ineefective than the system we currently have in place for automobiles?
2013-01-29 05:56:21 PM  
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: Saiga410: justtray: stoli n coke: Saiga410: He does have a very good point. He is not against the background checks mandated by FFL purchases... his is one of being against P2P needing background checks. The added regulatory hurdle is more intrusive than the benefit of removing the small amount of people who may get caught because criminals will still buy around this with their standard end arounds they use now which is not the traditional p2p. They will use their strawmen and universal background will not stop that.

"If they've done nothing wrong, they've got nothing to worry about."

-Conservatives before 1/20/09

I will guess that you bother were against such reasoning back before 09 so you will join me in giving the govt the finger when they want to enter into a privacy issue.

Sure, we'll defend privacy.

Your criminal history, however, is not "private."


But my mental health history is.
2013-01-29 05:55:24 PM  
1 votes:

Thrag: Why bother owning guns? They can't protect you against every possible threat...


Because some of us have junk so small it looks like we just finished taking a dip in the Atlantic ocean in the dead of winter. Because... SHRINKAGE!
2013-01-29 05:46:25 PM  
1 votes:

Ow! That was my feelings!: Ah, yes, registration. Good luck getting people to comply.


Well then your argument is the same as LaPierre's.

Why should we have laws against illegal immigrants? They just come here anyway.
Bf+
2013-01-29 05:41:24 PM  
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck the NRA

/seriously... f*ck these "people"



ThisityThisThis.
It's as though their response to murdered 5 year olds is to actively court criminals / mass murderers.
Fark them right in the ear.
2013-01-29 05:38:59 PM  
1 votes:
While we're ready to participate in a meaningful effort to solve these pressing problems

Bwahhahahhaa!
2013-01-29 05:36:53 PM  
1 votes:

Thrag: Why bother owning guns? They can't protect you against every possible threat...


President Reagan was shot at point blank range while surrounded by the Secret Service, but guns will totally protect you from crime!
2013-01-29 05:35:26 PM  
1 votes:

Saiga410: He does have a very good point. He is not against the background checks mandated by FFL purchases... his is one of being against P2P needing background checks. The added regulatory hurdle is more intrusive than the benefit of removing the small amount of people who may get caught because criminals will still buy around this with their standard end arounds they use now which is not the traditional p2p. They will use their strawmen and universal background will not stop that.


"If they've done nothing wrong, they've got nothing to worry about."

-Conservatives before 1/20/09
2013-01-29 05:35:11 PM  
1 votes:

moops: moos: I anecdote, and so should you

For moment, I thought someone hijacked my account.


No one here but us chickens.

That's pretty funny though.
2013-01-29 05:31:07 PM  
1 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: These guys just can't help themselves...they have to dig deeper.


I'm starting to think Alex Jones and the NRA are conservative plants.
2013-01-29 05:30:04 PM  
1 votes:
You mean I might be minorly inconvenienced in a very temporary way if I wanted to legal buy a firearm? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE THE FOUNDING FATHERS ARE SPINNING IN THEIR GRAVES THAT WE DARE LEGISLATE THIS EVEN THOUGH IT CLEARLY ALLOWS US TO IN THE CONSTITUTION
2013-01-29 05:29:26 PM  
1 votes:
Wasn't the NRA actually in favour of this immediately after Sandy Hook, or am I confused?
2013-01-29 05:24:11 PM  
1 votes:

whistleridge: His cunning plan, I don't think he's thought it all the way through...


If he was capable of thinking things through all the way, he wouldn't be head of the NRA.
2013-01-29 05:24:10 PM  
1 votes:
we can't catch every cannabis user, so why bother keeping it illegal at all?
we can't stop every drunk driver, so why bother with DUI checkpoints at all?
we can't stop every terrorist, so why bother with TSA checkpoints at all?
we can't stop every file trader, so why bother trying to stop it at all?
we can't stop every abortion, so why stop it at all?
we can't stop every welfare cheater, so why bother screening at all?
we can't stop every illegal from crossing the border, so why bother at all?


I can do this all night long.
2013-01-29 05:23:48 PM  
1 votes:

Rindred: Grand_Moff_Joseph: These guys just can't help themselves...they have to dig deeper.

They'll eventually run out of soil once they emerge in China.


By this time, LaPierre has learned how to extract oxygen from molten lava at the earth's core.
2013-01-29 04:48:09 PM  
1 votes:
Duh. This is why we have no speed limits.
2013-01-29 04:44:46 PM  
1 votes:
murder is still going to happen. why make it illegal?
2013-01-29 04:34:53 PM  
1 votes:
Additional checks to buy guns: bad
Additional checks to vote: good

This is what 'some people' actually think.
2013-01-29 04:04:49 PM  
1 votes:
The NRA needs a new spokesperson. I nominate Marvin.

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2013-01-29 04:02:30 PM  
1 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: These guys just can't help themselves...they have to dig deeper.


They'll eventually run out of soil once they emerge in China.
 
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