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(Talking Points Memo)   NRA: We can't catch every criminal out there, so why bother with background checks at all?   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 382
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2013-01-29 03:59:02 PM  
These guys just can't help themselves...they have to dig deeper.
 
2013-01-29 04:02:30 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: These guys just can't help themselves...they have to dig deeper.


They'll eventually run out of soil once they emerge in China.
 
2013-01-29 04:04:49 PM  
The NRA needs a new spokesperson. I nominate Marvin.

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2013-01-29 04:06:09 PM  
I own guns and I went through a background check. I don't see the big deal.
 
2013-01-29 04:12:32 PM  
Now opposing criminal background checks may seem baffling, but that would be because you are wrongly assuming that the point is to reduce gun violence.  Once you consider that LaPierre's sole motive is to ensure that his gun manufacturer masters maximize sales of their product, it makes sense.

Take any proposition LaPierre and the NRA make, strip it of any moral context whatsoever, run it through this formula, and you will see it fits 100% of the time.
 
2013-01-29 04:16:50 PM  
Ask yourself: "do criminal background checks increase or decrease the number of guns sold in America?"  Well clearly, if some people can't buy guns because they are convicted violent felons, that means less guns sold.

Also, more felons with guns means a climate of fear that will also cause law abiding citizens to buy guns against the criminal element who are now heavily armed, which means even more guns sold.

So I think its easy to see that screening out criminals from being able to buy guns reduces profit and is therefore a Bad Thing.  So criminal background checks must be opposed.

See?  Simple.
 
2013-01-29 04:32:08 PM  
Guess we should all stop using condoms, too, because those little spermie buggers that want to get through, they're not going to submit to the latex. So why bother with the whole thing, anyway?

And don't bother frisking me at the airport, if a terrorist REALLY wants to get the bomb on the plane, he's going to.

/insert more sarcastic examples
//like guns, detest the NRA
 
2013-01-29 04:34:53 PM  
Additional checks to buy guns: bad
Additional checks to vote: good

This is what 'some people' actually think.
 
2013-01-29 04:40:26 PM  

vudutek: Additional checks to buy guns: bad
Additional checks to vote: good

This is what 'some people' actually think.


Well, as you know, according to the Supreme Court, you have no federal constitutional right to vote for President, but SECOND AMENDMENT!
 
2013-01-29 04:43:40 PM  
F*ck the NRA

/seriously... f*ck these "people"
 
2013-01-29 04:44:46 PM  
murder is still going to happen. why make it illegal?
 
2013-01-29 04:45:44 PM  
btw - i can't wait to see the groveling of the GOP senators when he's testifying. it should make for some great attack ads.
 
2013-01-29 04:48:09 PM  
Duh. This is why we have no speed limits.
 
2013-01-29 04:49:23 PM  

gilgigamesh: Once you consider that LaPierre's sole motive is to ensure that his gun manufacturer masters maximize sales of their product, it makes sense.


Who runs the NRA?
 
2013-01-29 04:56:29 PM  
When the Russians and Cubans invade America, they'll pull the gun owner permit files and know who has guns that need taking away! Has no one watched Red Dawn!  I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!  -Wayne LaPierre
 
2013-01-29 05:06:15 PM  
Indeed!  Why should murder be illegal if we can't prevent all murders?  Clearly, the point is never farking try.
 
2013-01-29 05:07:33 PM  
Wherever the next mass shooting is, Wayne LaPierre should be forced to wipe up the blood and carry the bodies to the morgue.
 
2013-01-29 05:08:41 PM  

RexTalionis: vudutek: Additional checks to buy guns: bad
Additional checks to vote: good

This is what 'some people' actually think.

Well, as you know, according to the Supreme Court, you have no federal constitutional right to vote for President, but SECOND AMENDMENT!


Not the whole second amendment. The first part about being part of a well regulated militia-doesn't matter. So it's parts of the constitution.
 
2013-01-29 05:08:45 PM  
Another day, another protest from Wayne LaDerp.....
 
2013-01-29 05:09:28 PM  
We can't have perfection so lets just tolerate dysfunction.

It's the only tolerance conservatives seem to possess.
 
2013-01-29 05:10:18 PM  
If we criminalize chicken farking, only criminals will fark chickens.
 
2013-01-29 05:11:54 PM  

vernonFL: Wherever the next mass shooting is, Wayne LaPierre should be forced to wipe up the blood and carry the bodies to the morgue.


Better yet, be the one who tells the grieving family that their loved ones died for freedom of gunn ownersship.
 
2013-01-29 05:13:10 PM  
Wait, the NRA is against even the most basic and reasonable restrictions on who may own a firearm?

I'll be damned.
 
2013-01-29 05:18:18 PM  

vernonFL: Wherever the next mass shooting is, Wayne LaPierre should be forced to wipe up the blood and carry the bodies to the morgue.


you want to make him stronger?
 
2013-01-29 05:18:45 PM  
By that logic:

> why bother having police? we'll never catch all the criminals
> why bother having firemen? houses are still going to burn down
> why bother having laws? people are just going to do what they want anyway
> why bother having doctors? people are still going to get sick and die
> why bother having taxes? people will just cheat on them
> why bother teachingn students to spell? they'll just ignore it when they text
> why bother feeding your kids? they'll just be hungry again tomorrow

His cunning plan, I don't think he's thought it all the way through...
 
2013-01-29 05:19:29 PM  

jake_lex: Wait, the NRA is against even the most basic and reasonable restrictions on who may own a firearm?

I'll be damned.


Well, think about it. 3 million released convicts are allowed to buy guns, gun sales increase.

Then the gun companies start running ads based on how many felons have guns, gun sales increase more.
 
2013-01-29 05:20:11 PM  
No person more deserves to get run over by a bus
 
2013-01-29 05:20:32 PM  
If no background check is good enough for the President then it's good enough for anybody
 
2013-01-29 05:21:13 PM  
Hey look, my favorite invalid argument!
 
2013-01-29 05:22:10 PM  
Yeah, pretty sure the NRA can go fark themselves.
 
2013-01-29 05:23:00 PM  
I anecdote, and so should you.
 
2013-01-29 05:23:48 PM  

Rindred: Grand_Moff_Joseph: These guys just can't help themselves...they have to dig deeper.

They'll eventually run out of soil once they emerge in China.


By this time, LaPierre has learned how to extract oxygen from molten lava at the earth's core.
 
2013-01-29 05:24:10 PM  
we can't catch every cannabis user, so why bother keeping it illegal at all?
we can't stop every drunk driver, so why bother with DUI checkpoints at all?
we can't stop every terrorist, so why bother with TSA checkpoints at all?
we can't stop every file trader, so why bother trying to stop it at all?
we can't stop every abortion, so why stop it at all?
we can't stop every welfare cheater, so why bother screening at all?
we can't stop every illegal from crossing the border, so why bother at all?


I can do this all night long.
 
2013-01-29 05:24:11 PM  

whistleridge: His cunning plan, I don't think he's thought it all the way through...


If he was capable of thinking things through all the way, he wouldn't be head of the NRA.
 
2013-01-29 05:26:42 PM  

Nabb1: I own guns and I went through a background check. I don't see the big deal.


The vast majority of gun owners don't either.

Because they aren't batshiat crazy like LaPierre.
 
2013-01-29 05:27:05 PM  

moos: I anecdote, and so should you


For moment, I thought someone hijacked my account.
 
2013-01-29 05:27:18 PM  
We can't stop 100% of nuclear bomb denotations, so why should we even try?
 
2013-01-29 05:28:02 PM  
He does have a very good point. He is not against the background checks mandated by FFL purchases... his is one of being against P2P needing background checks. The added regulatory hurdle is more intrusive than the benefit of removing the small amount of people who may get caught because criminals will still buy around this with their standard end arounds they use now which is not the traditional p2p. They will use their strawmen and universal background will not stop that.
 
2013-01-29 05:28:43 PM  
Has anybody noticed that the tiny group of sociopathic whores for the gun manufacturers actually running the NRA are increasingly out of step with the rank-and-file NRA members?
 
2013-01-29 05:29:26 PM  
Wasn't the NRA actually in favour of this immediately after Sandy Hook, or am I confused?
 
2013-01-29 05:29:49 PM  
We've beeen able to make cars safer without banning them.
 
2013-01-29 05:30:04 PM  
You mean I might be minorly inconvenienced in a very temporary way if I wanted to legal buy a firearm? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE THE FOUNDING FATHERS ARE SPINNING IN THEIR GRAVES THAT WE DARE LEGISLATE THIS EVEN THOUGH IT CLEARLY ALLOWS US TO IN THE CONSTITUTION
 
2013-01-29 05:30:48 PM  
And I do not follow how being against universal background coincides with the NRA being the gun manufacturers lacky. This will opposition will not affect OEM directed sales.
 
2013-01-29 05:31:00 PM  

jake_lex: Wait, the NRA is against even the most basic and reasonable restrictions on who may own a firearm?

I'll be damned.


Subby misrepresented the argument.

Additional background checks won't catch most criminals so why have additional checks?

For reference, only a few percent of guns are bought from private sellers.
 
2013-01-29 05:31:07 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: These guys just can't help themselves...they have to dig deeper.


I'm starting to think Alex Jones and the NRA are conservative plants.
 
2013-01-29 05:31:30 PM  
How do you enforce universal background checks?
 
2013-01-29 05:32:20 PM  

vernonFL: Wherever the next mass shooting is, Wayne LaPierre should be forced to wipe up the blood and carry the bodies to the morgue.


So, are you in charge of arranging his next erection, or something?
 
2013-01-29 05:33:21 PM  
Why bother owning guns? They can't protect you against every possible threat...
 
2013-01-29 05:33:53 PM  
This argument applies to just about anything ilegal.

Prostitution
Marijuana use
Drunk Driving
Abortion
 
2013-01-29 05:35:11 PM  

moops: moos: I anecdote, and so should you

For moment, I thought someone hijacked my account.


No one here but us chickens.

That's pretty funny though.
 
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