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(Peoria Journal Star)   Ethics Commissioner violated ethics law. This is Illinois, so we'll go with the obvious tag   (pjstar.com) divider line 30
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2013-01-29 04:45:25 PM
That's the Chicago way.

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2013-01-29 05:53:04 PM
I'd like to know how a politician advocating for a candidate at a "prayer breakfast" is constitutional.
 
2013-01-29 06:22:05 PM
its not about Ethics in America,
its about the dollars, baby.


when are you clowns going to figure that out. it is the inevitable result of unbridled capitalism.
 
2013-01-29 06:29:47 PM

fusillade762: I'd like to know how a politician advocating for a candidate at a "prayer breakfast" is constitutional.


Why wouldn't it be?
 
2013-01-29 06:30:40 PM
I wonder who he pissed off to get ratted out.

It's my experience, from within the government, that above a certain level no one gives a sh*t about ethics anymore.

Until someone gets caught or pisses off the wrong person, and then it's all "LETS BURN THIS MOTHERF*CKER DOWN"
 
2013-01-29 06:36:49 PM

fusillade762: I'd like to know how a politician advocating for a candidate at a "prayer breakfast" is constitutional.


You can find it in the 1st Amendment. The United States Supreme Court held in NAACP v. Alabama that the freedom of association is an essential part of the Freedom of Speech because, in many cases, people can engage in effective speech only when they join with others.
 
2013-01-29 06:40:29 PM
It's law that the ethics commissioner is not allowed to attend political events in support of specific candidates. He attended a political event and even gave a speech in support of the candidate.

The fact that people are holding campaign fundraising prayer breakfasts are not aware of the juxtaposition that their use of their religion to gain monetary benefits fortheir campaigns does notsurprise me.

Jesus would despise his followers if he existed.
 
2013-01-29 06:50:52 PM
Thank God that government employees are out there keeping corporations honest...
 
2013-01-29 06:59:49 PM

GoldSpider: fusillade762: I'd like to know how a politician advocating for a candidate at a "prayer breakfast" is constitutional.

Why wouldn't it be?


Can you advocate for a political candidate in a church? How is this different?
 
2013-01-29 07:01:30 PM
Seems appropriate for the place that Messiah Obama's political career was groomed.
 
2013-01-29 07:07:12 PM
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2013-01-29 07:11:55 PM

chairmanoohmowmow: Thank God that government employees are out there keeping corporations honest...


The general rule is, "If you want to keep your job, keep your mouth shut."
 
2013-01-29 07:18:30 PM
I serve as the Vice Chair of a state licensing board, in Illinois. We have to take ethics training every year. It's pretty interesting, and it makes sense. Still funny that this guy got fined.

By the way, I have a friend who served as a State Legislator in Illinois. He said that "it doesn't matter whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, so long as you play the game".

/ CSB
 
2013-01-29 07:29:24 PM

fusillade762: GoldSpider: fusillade762: I'd like to know how a politician advocating for a candidate at a "prayer breakfast" is constitutional.

Why wouldn't it be?

Can you advocate for a political candidate in a church? How is this different?


IRS tax code (theoretically) restricts churches from participating in politics. The Constitution restricts the government from participating in religion.

There is absolutely nothing unconstitutional about a church hosting an event that politicians attend. So long as they don't make the appearance or reality of endorsing that particular politician they don't even (theoretically) jeopardize their tax exempt status. A church saying "Hey, we're having a breakfast, politicians are welcome to attend" is fine. A church saying "Hey, we're having a breakfast for senator congress-critter and support him for reelection" (theoretically) jeopardizes their tax exempt status, but isn't unconstitutional.

There is also absolutely nothing unconstitutional about a politician attending an event hosted by a church, so long as they don't try to pass laws based on advancing that church. Senator congress-critter can say "I'm attending a breakfast at the local Church and am going to talk about political things", they can't say "I'm attending a breakfast at the local Church, and because of what Pastor-gonna-pay-taxes said I'm introducing legislation requiring communion in order to be a post master." For that would violate the establishment clause and be unconstitutional.


Remember, the first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting...", it restricts congress (and state legislatures via the 14th amendment) from making laws, not churches from hosting breakfasts, and not politicians from speaking in front of religious groups.
 
2013-01-29 07:47:46 PM
Us downstaters just shake our heads, realizing we're just farked. Our 'lawmakers' or 'government constituents' (I use those terms loosely) are there for themselves, fark the entire state. Anything outside of Cook or Lake county doesn't count.

We are the most fail worthy state of all 50. So .... yay?
 
2013-01-29 07:53:12 PM
Being that it's Illinois...I figured the problem was that the ethics commissioner was the only one being ethical and the rest of the legislature couldn't have that.
 
2013-01-29 07:53:30 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Us downstaters just shake our heads, realizing we're just farked. Our 'lawmakers' or 'government constituents' (I use those terms loosely) are there for themselves, fark the entire state. Anything outside of Cook or Lake county doesn't count.

We are the most fail worthy state of all 50 57. So .... yay?


FTFY
 
2013-01-29 07:55:45 PM

Silly Jesus: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Us downstaters just shake our heads, realizing we're just farked. Our 'lawmakers' or 'government constituents' (I use those terms loosely) are there for themselves, fark the entire state. Anything outside of Cook or Lake county doesn't count.

We are the most fail worthy state of all 50 57. So .... yay?

FTFY


um...whatever.
 
2013-01-29 08:26:58 PM
There's no picture of him so can we assume he's black?
 
2013-01-29 08:30:08 PM

fusillade762: Can you advocate for a political candidate in a church? How is this different?


Far as I can tell this event didn't take place at a church, nor sponsored by one.
 
2013-01-29 10:35:58 PM
 
2013-01-29 11:05:49 PM
I had to go to one of these prayer breakfasts one time... inner city Chicago churches. The parking lot looked like a freaking dealership for Mercedes, Cadillac, Audi. Inside, the holy men all scarfed up the free breakfasts without stopping to listen to the speeches. Or prayers.
 
2013-01-29 11:23:41 PM
I love how jealous people get that in Illinois we actually catch our crooked politicians.

hasty ambush: Illinois' credit rating downgraded; state drops to worst in the nation

What that tax increase got them


A gradual working our way out of a financial hole without resorting to union busting to attract unscrupulous businesses. Credit raters don't like it when you're not going for the easy fixes.
 
2013-01-29 11:52:41 PM

JosephFinn: I love how jealous people get that in Illinois we actually catch our crooked politicians.

hasty ambush: Illinois' credit rating downgraded; state drops to worst in the nation

What that tax increase got them

A gradual working our way out of a financial hole without resorting to union busting to attract unscrupulous businesses. Credit raters don't like it when you're not going for the easy fixes.


Whatever makes you feel better
 
2013-01-29 11:58:18 PM
I would have used the irony tag, but whatevs :/
 
2013-01-30 12:11:47 AM

Silly Jesus: Seems appropriate for the place that Messiah Obama's political career was groomed.


... so vote libertarian?
 
2013-01-30 01:10:44 AM
"State law prohibits commissioners from contributing to political campaigns."

How would that not run afoul of all the case law stating that political contributions are protected political speech?
 
2013-01-30 02:04:56 AM

winterbraid: Silly Jesus: Seems appropriate for the place that Messiah Obama's political career was groomed.

... so vote libertarian?


It's really depressing to me that throughout history, good ideas have have flickered and been snuffed out, yet idiocy of the kind embodied by OP is like zombie plague... No matter how many times or how thoroughly you think you've beaten it and how clearly dead that horse is, it just won't farking stay dead or go away.

/(quoting you because the moron OP is on ignore)
 
2013-01-30 02:39:39 AM

erik-k: good ideas have have flickered and been snuffed out


this made me think of Greek Fire. not sure why...

:P
 
2013-01-30 09:00:14 AM
an ethics commissioner cannot violate an ethics law, he will simply make whatever he does ethical

problem solved

that's why atheism is the true path to morality
 
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