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(Oregon Herald)   Risks of a woman changing her name after a wedding? Sneers from feminists. Risks of a man changing his name after a wedding? Felony fraud   (oregonherald.com) divider line 87
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2013-01-29 01:28:19 PM  
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2013-01-29 01:30:24 PM  
And I thought Florida would be tough for transgenders.
 
2013-01-29 01:45:00 PM  
Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?
 
2013-01-29 01:45:09 PM  
He did it right. He changed his passport. It's a trump card. Just turn in license and the. While still standing there get a new one. Passport is the trump card of ID docs.
 
2013-01-29 01:45:42 PM  
I live in Wisconsin and I legally changed my name via marriage - Both my wife and I took a new last name. No problems so far.
 
2013-01-29 01:46:39 PM  
1) This is stupid and he should win.
2) His wife is hot. Please introduce me to these sisters you mention.
 
2013-01-29 01:46:58 PM  
I smell a lawsuit.
 
2013-01-29 01:47:48 PM  
 
2013-01-29 01:48:18 PM  

asscorethethird: I live in Wisconsin and I legally changed my name via marriage - Both my wife and I took a new last name. No problems so far.


You just didn't like either of your last names?
 
2013-01-29 01:48:25 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?


A woman taking a man's surname is clear evidence of patriarchal oppression, duh
 
2013-01-29 01:50:36 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?


I don't know any that do. And if they did, I would ask them your question exactly...
 
2013-01-29 01:50:41 PM  

Quinsisdos: The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?

A woman taking a man's surname is clear evidence of patriarchal oppression, duh


Oh, I forgot that Subby has learned everything he knows about feminists from Tumblr.  My bad.
 
2013-01-29 01:50:56 PM  
This is stupid and he should nguyen.
 
2013-01-29 01:50:59 PM  
I was going to post some snarky remark about how only a feminized chump would change his name...but then I saw the pic and can only say, "Good job, sir."
 
2013-01-29 01:53:49 PM  

Tommy Moo: 1) This is stupid and he should win.
2) His wife is hot. Please introduce me to these sisters you mention.


Seconded
 
2013-01-29 01:54:04 PM  
I understand both sides. If the DMV clerk hadn't followed procedure to the absolute letter, they would have been shiat-canned.

Civil servants are just like any employee of an enterprise-level company - you will never get in trouble if you follow exactly the regulations. The one time you bend a rule, it bites you in the ass and you get fired.

This fellow has a great lawsuit against the DMV. Don't blame the rank and file, or even the middle-management, blame the Governor who signed off on that policy.
 
2013-01-29 01:54:24 PM  
Saw this earlier today. Glad we don't live in FL or Mr. Gloom would probably be in the same boat. He took my name for very similar reasons when we married, but PA gave us zero hassle. A few old ladies at the Social Security office gave us funny looks and asked questions about why, but no hassle.
 
2013-01-29 01:54:53 PM  
I had a couple of friends who got married and both changed their surnames to an arbitrary third name to spite their parents. They chose "Livingston" more or less at random.
 
2013-01-29 01:55:37 PM  

freeforever: I was going to post some snarky remark about how only a feminized chump would change his name...


You should have, so we could call you an idiot.

The My Little Pony Killer: Quinsisdos: The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?

A woman taking a man's surname is clear evidence of patriarchal oppression, duh

Oh, I forgot that Subby has learned everything he knows about feminists from Tumblr.  My bad.


Not sure how many feminists you know, but I've met several that think this way; they scream about women's choice, then belittle the ones who choose 'wrongly'.
 
2013-01-29 01:56:00 PM  

Quinsisdos: The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?

A woman taking a man's surname is clear evidence of patriarchal oppression, duh


Or because it is often, especially traditionally, not her choice.
 
2013-01-29 01:56:12 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Quinsisdos: The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?

A woman taking a man's surname is clear evidence of patriarchal oppression, duh

Oh, I forgot that Subby has learned everything he knows about feminists from Tumblr.  My bad.


He probably picked up his shiatty attitudes here on Fark. It's not like Fark, Reddit or Digg feature enlightened, compassionate and empathetic viewpoints towards human beings who aren't white, well-off and male.
 
2013-01-29 01:59:06 PM  

Bored Horde: I understand both sides. If the DMV clerk hadn't followed procedure to the absolute letter, they would have been shiat-canned


Have you ever heard of a goobernment worker getting fired for anything less than rape or murder? It doesn't happen. They can't hardly be fired for theft.
 
2013-01-29 01:59:26 PM  
I know it's not a popular opinion - but in my experience with authority figures like the police, irs, government, TSA, etc, etc.... is that 99% of the time they get it right.

I'm quite sure there is more to the story they aren't telling you.

Like when you see a 30 second cell phone video of a cop pushing someone too hard against the hood of their car; but in actuality the guy was drunk, had a history of beating his wife, was yelling so loud the neighbors called the police, then spent 20 minutes in a drunken rage threatening to kill the cops, then immediately before the video stops on the cops foot....then the cop subdues him and everyone jumps on the 'We hate laws' bandwagon....

The fact that the guy was able to change his name, get a new driver's license, a new SS card, and new passport suggests that his problem isn't changing his name. Over a year later something happens that raises the fraud flag? And everyone just thinks, 'Gee the government is stupid - this guy has to be legit....I mean, criminals never lie, right?'

A Cuban immigrant and a Vietnamese family - I mean, look, let's just be honest here - there are probably some skeletons in their closets...
 
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2013-01-29 02:05:50 PM  
It was a $215 filing fee (and small court appearance) up here in Minnesota for changing a name for reasons other than marriage. Sucks that it costs a whopping $400 down in Florida. Not sure if guys can switch their name for free due to marriage up here.

Anyways, basically you get a notarized court document and get to drag that around until you update your passport, social security, license, deeds, titles, insurances, postal address, and optionally Birth Certificate.


/MN rate was 7 years ago so perhaps it has changed.
//Needed two witnesses to vouch that I was up to nothing nefarious.


-- hrmm this got red lighted as a repeat link, but this is not the same as the pregnant man link which fark says is the duplicate.
 
2013-01-29 02:09:06 PM  
I'm thinking of changing my name when I get married. Not to his last name, though. I want something new.

I have a few I'm playing around with. There's a writers colony near here that used to be run by a chick who changed her last name to Dragonwagon. That's pretty neat.
 
2013-01-29 02:09:57 PM  

victrin: I smell a lawsuit.


That he will not win. So you think you are special and so forward thinking. Well, good for you, it's not illegal, it has a $400 filing fee and you have to fill out the correct paperwork.

It's not hard, quit whining
 
2013-01-29 02:50:07 PM  
Hey modmins... how is this a repeat of the pregger dude story?
 
2013-01-29 02:52:57 PM  
I have no idea how this is a repeat . . .

UNLESS!!

The pregnant man changed his name after marrying his wife and the state says that he cannot because he is a man, but cannot get divorced because he is a woman!

Alas this is not the case and the Mods just screwed up, but i want that story now.
 
2013-01-29 03:07:42 PM  

pxsteel: That he will not win. So you think you are special and so forward thinking. Well, good for you, it's not illegal, it has a $400 filing fee and you have to fill out the correct paperwork.


There is this little thing called the equal protection clause. You know the one that states that "[n]o State shall . . . deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Turns out that a state can say that women will get X for free and men will pay $400 for it, but the state will need to show that the disparate treatment is "substantially related" to an "important" government interest. I have a feeling Florida (or any of the other states that suck here) will have a hard time passing that bar, but i will admit i haven't done the research.
 
2013-01-29 03:13:29 PM  
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2013-01-29 03:14:51 PM  
Patriarchal expectations harm men too.

/we're choosing a new last name when we get married
//i imagine it'll be somewhat easier in the failed gay-marriage state of Canuckistan than in the righteous hetero-marriage-only state of Florida
///even for a het couple like us
 
2013-01-29 03:17:30 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I know it's not a popular opinion - but in my experience with authority figures like the police, irs, government, TSA, etc, etc.... is that 99% of the time they get it right.

I'm quite sure there is more to the story they aren't telling you.



You mean like the FTC lawsuit against the guy? FTC vs Prime Legal Plans d/b/a Lazaro Dinh aka Mario Lazaro Sope
 
2013-01-29 03:21:29 PM  
According to Kuvin, 9 states enable a man to change his name upon marriage: California, New York, Hawaii, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Oregon, Iowa, Georgia and North Dakota

Yea!!! Louisiana's not backwards on an issue for once... Suck that every other state except those listed above.
 
2013-01-29 03:21:44 PM  
Die hard feminista's have nothing better to do than sneer at everyone and everything.
 
2013-01-29 03:28:55 PM  
Know a guy who changed his last name into a hyphenated version which included his wife's last name. No problem for many years until they moved to Idaho. The drones at the DL office confiscated his (valid) license from the other state because of the name issue, claiming that it was fraudulent. The also told him that they would have him arrested for driving without a license if he tried to drive home.
 
2013-01-29 03:30:38 PM  

Archfeld: Die hard feminista's have nothing better to do than sneer at everyone and everything.


At least you've found a way to sneer at both sides.
 
2013-01-29 03:32:36 PM  

pxsteel: victrin: I smell a lawsuit.

That he will not win. So you think you are special and so forward thinking. Well, good for you, it's not illegal, it has a $400 filing fee and you have to fill out the correct paperwork.

It's not hard, quit whining


In Florida, the stated policies of the DMV as available to the customer for name changes after marriage do not specify the gender of the spouse who is changing a last name. The marriage certificate is the only document you need to change your last name to your spouse's last name; you do not need to pay a $400 filing fee and you do not need a name change order from the Circuit Court if you have a marriage certificate. The guy in the article did everything in accordance with policy.

TL;DR version: You're wrong.
 
2013-01-29 03:32:48 PM  
A bureaucratic screw-up? At the DMV? Someone call Ric Romero.
 
2013-01-29 03:35:09 PM  
My husband and I kept our own last names when we got married, but now that we're thinking about kids, he wants to hyphenate them so we each pick up the other's name in addition to our own. Apart from my name being five words long, I don't think we'll have a problem...though after hearing about this, I think we'll go to the courthouse rather than the DMV to get it done.

/his theory is that people will assume we're not married or divorced and tease the kid
//my thinking is that kid is doomed to get teased no matter what and married parents are the minority here
///but his last name's neat and I like my in-laws, so why the hell not?
 
2013-01-29 03:35:13 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?


Because she's not choosing what they want her to choose (see Sarah Palin, Michelle Malkin).
 
2013-01-29 03:35:40 PM  
Our legal system isn't perfect.

Out of every one hundred backrubs it gives, ninety-nine people get backrubs. One gets a broken neck. It happens at random, but usually to people other than white.
 
2013-01-29 03:38:05 PM  
On the other hand, there was an administrative hearing, so there's probably some information missing here.
 
2013-01-29 03:38:07 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?


Not feminists. STRAW FEMINISTS!
 
2013-01-29 03:40:20 PM  
As for name changes, my wife's relatives still send her mail addressed to her using my last name, even though she was quite clear with them that she was keeping her own last name. I think the average women gets more raised eyebrows for keeping her own name than sneers from imaginary straw feminists for not.
 
2013-01-29 03:40:43 PM  

Tatterdemalian: The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?

Because she's not choosing what they want her to choose (see Sarah Palin, Michelle Malkin).


Oh Michelle "I kept my name for professional reasons but other women who do the same are bad wives" Malkin.
 
2013-01-29 03:45:43 PM  

GloomCookie613: A few old ladies at the Social Security office gave us funny looks and asked questions about why, but no hassle.


Did you tell them it's because you wear the strap-on in the relationship?
 
2013-01-29 03:50:27 PM  

Soymilk: Tatterdemalian: The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?

Because she's not choosing what they want her to choose (see Sarah Palin, Michelle Malkin).

Oh Michelle "I kept my name for professional reasons but other women who do the same are bad wives" Malkin.


I'm pretty sure the joke was the idea that Palin and Malkin get sneered at for their choices, and not for their lack of intellectual honesty.
 
2013-01-29 03:55:12 PM  

beakerxf: Fark_Guy_Rob: I know it's not a popular opinion - but in my experience with authority figures like the police, irs, government, TSA, etc, etc.... is that 99% of the time they get it right.

I'm quite sure there is more to the story they aren't telling you.

You mean like the FTC lawsuit against the guy? FTC vs Prime Legal Plans d/b/a Lazaro Dinh aka Mario Lazaro Sope


his name is Sopena, I thought? "Real estate investor Lazaro Sopena"
 
2013-01-29 03:55:47 PM  
nevermind, I misread stupidly off the link
 
2013-01-29 03:57:33 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Why are feminists sneering at a woman making her own choices in life?


Because they're angry and bitter at the fact that they're still not legally allowed to take the last name of the seven cats that they're "married" to.
 
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