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2013-01-29 01:19:12 PM  
They're finally going to add an SD card slot?

*reads TFA*

Nope? Fark them sideways.
 
2013-01-29 01:20:48 PM  
actually, I use my ipad for storing TV shows, the occasional movie and a metric assload of tabletop RPG books on PDF file. you would not believe how useful that thing is for running a tabletop RPG game.  throw in a portable speaker of some sort and you can do music and sound effects for your game.  lightweight, easily portable, and great for that sort of setting.
 
2013-01-29 01:29:38 PM  
Will they also be allowing to save porn, because if not than what's the point.

...for those who are likely to do such a thing.
 
2013-01-29 01:40:02 PM  
Over $900?!

Get a real computer, fer fu*k's sake.
 
2013-01-29 01:41:06 PM  
"The Wi-Fi-only version of the higher capacity iPad will cost $799 while the LTE-capable version will go for $929."

That kind of price hike for just the addition LTE?  Seriously?

And 128GB eh?  So in the appleverse shouldn't it cost around like $6000?
 
2013-01-29 01:43:06 PM  
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

Calmamity: Over $900?!


Oh, wait, that's a whole order of magnitude....

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-29 02:20:52 PM  
This is great news, my iPad mini is  2 months old now so this one will hold me over until the next generation iPad launches in a few months.  Thanks for caring, Apple.
 
2013-01-29 02:48:35 PM  
Please Please Please tell me they use the word cloud. I love the cloud
 
2013-01-29 03:14:17 PM  
The surface pro is looking pretty sweet now ain't it fellows?
 
2013-01-29 03:16:56 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Please Please Please tell me they use the word cloud. I love the cloud


When a technical person says "cloud" they mean a remote pool of computing resources that can be doled out in a piecemeal fashion on-demand to service a generic workload.

When a marketing person says "cloud" they mean "the boss wants me to sell you this thing our company has on a website somewhere and I like to pretend that I have technical chops because I managed to set iTunes up by myself last night".

When Microsoft says "cloud" they mean "Steve Ballmer is going to physically hurt me if I don't randomly weave nonsensical tech jargon into this advertisement".
 
2013-01-29 03:17:38 PM  

theflatline: The surface pro is looking pretty sweet now ain't it fellows?


Uh, no.
 
2013-01-29 03:17:46 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Please Please Please tell me they use the word cloud. I love the cloud

When a technical person says "cloud" they mean a remote pool of computing resources that can be doled out in a piecemeal fashion on-demand to service a generic workload.

When a marketing person says "cloud" they mean "the boss wants me to sell you this thing our company has on a website somewhere and I like to pretend that I have technical chops because I managed to set iTunes up by myself last night".

When Microsoft says "cloud" they mean "Steve Ballmer is going to physically hurt me if I don't randomly weave nonsensical tech jargon into this advertisement".


I remember in the 90s they called the cloud "Application Service Providers"
 
2013-01-29 03:20:49 PM  

theflatline: The surface pro is looking pretty sweet now ain't it fellows?


Yes. You should buy Microsoft stock.
 
2013-01-29 03:21:03 PM  
Apple really is starting to lose it.
 
2013-01-29 03:21:19 PM  

Weaver95: actually, I use my ipad for storing TV shows, the occasional movie and a metric assload of tabletop RPG books on PDF file. you would not believe how useful that thing is for running a tabletop RPG game.  throw in a portable speaker of some sort and you can do music and sound effects for your game.  lightweight, easily portable, and great for that sort of setting.


That actually sounds like a lot of fun.
 
2013-01-29 03:23:14 PM  

BKITU: They're finally going to add an SD card slot?

*reads TFA*

Nope? Fark them sideways.


^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^

I have no respect for Apple, nor its merry brand of customers sheep...I'll admit that the Macs handle multiple large graphics files easier than the PC, but that's about it.
 
2013-01-29 03:25:44 PM  

Mikey1969: BKITU: They're finally going to add an SD card slot?

*reads TFA*

Nope? Fark them sideways.

^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^

I have no respect for Apple, nor its merry brand of customers sheep...I'll admit that the Macs handle multiple large graphics files easier than the PC, but that's about it.


The 90s called and asked for its meme back.
 
2013-01-29 03:29:57 PM  

theflatline: I remember in the 90s they called the cloud "Application Service Providers"


Sort of. That vision of "cloud" is more along the Microsoft way of thinking, though. SAS is more about delivering software on demand while cloud computing, in the typical sense, is about delivering raw computing resources on demand.

SAS/ASP would be me delivering to you some sort of office productivity application across the network like Office or Google Docs.

Cloud computer would be me delivering to you computer cycles, memory, bandwidth and disk space on which you would install your own productivity suite.
 
2013-01-29 03:34:24 PM  
BKITU: Calmamity: Over $900?!

Oh, wait, that's a whole order of magnitude....


It works if you use dimes ... what's the currency symbol for dimes?
 
2013-01-29 03:35:57 PM  

BKITU: They're finally going to add an SD card slot?

*reads TFA*

Nope? Fark them sideways.


I feel like if they ever do add some sort of expandable storage, their format will be some proprietary Apple thing (Like Sony and memory sticks) but they're holding back on it because they don't yet know how to keep third party vendors from selling the storage for half of what Apple asks.
 
2013-01-29 03:36:35 PM  

BKITU: They're finally going to add an SD card slot?

*reads TFA*

Nope? Fark them sideways.


That's why I purchased a Kindle Fire HD and Google Nexus tablet. Fark Apple for being the only major company to not offer expandable memory!
 
2013-01-29 03:38:03 PM  

UrCa: some proprietary Apple thing


Like HFS+?
 
2013-01-29 03:39:13 PM  
Smart. Wait until Christmas + the "no questions asked" period is over.

That 64GB iPad you have? You could get a better one, don't you know?
 
2013-01-29 03:40:36 PM  

Mikey1969: I have no respect for Apple, nor its merry brand of customers sheep...I'll admit that the Macs handle multiple large graphics files easier than the PC, but that's about it.


How does the mac hardware know that they are graphics files as opposed to any other bunch of 1s and and 0s? Also macs have intel processors now.
 
2013-01-29 03:41:06 PM  

gingerjet: The 90s called and asked for its meme back.


You don't understand the word 'meme', do you?
 
2013-01-29 03:41:52 PM  

theflatline: The surface pro is looking pretty sweet now ain't it fellows?


No.
 
2013-01-29 03:45:10 PM  

lordargent: BKITU: Calmamity: Over $900?!

Oh, wait, that's a whole order of magnitude....

It works if you use dimes ... what's the currency symbol for dimes?


I believe it's SL

First mentioned in "Blazing Saddles."
 
2013-01-29 03:45:18 PM  

Egoy3k: Mikey1969: I have no respect for Apple, nor its merry brand of customers sheep...I'll admit that the Macs handle multiple large graphics files easier than the PC, but that's about it.

How does the mac hardware know that they are graphics files as opposed to any other bunch of 1s and and 0s? Also macs have intel processors now.


Allow me to rephrase this... The OS handles this better. How do I know? I have been working in graphics off and on since starting school in '00. I often would do school projects at school and at home, and I would often work on personal projects at home and also at work. At home, I would have a PC, at work, I would have a Mac. Both pretty much equal in specs, sometimes with the PC having better specs than the Mac. I could drag 20-30 .psd's into the PS icon, and switch between PS and Illustrator smoothly. Those files would open quickly and work well. With the Windows machine, it wasn't that easy, and you definitely couldn't have that many files open and both apps open(Sometimes with InDesign open as well). So yeah, it's the OS, but go ahed and install it on a Windows system and let me know how that works. "It's got an Intel chip", after all.
 
2013-01-29 03:45:20 PM  
Is there any excuse for a tablet to be at this price point in this day and age? I could understand if it was something we'd never seen before, but man I'd be tempted to get something with more intrinsic value.
 
2013-01-29 03:46:22 PM  

gingerjet: Mikey1969: BKITU: They're finally going to add an SD card slot?

*reads TFA*

Nope? Fark them sideways.

^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^

I have no respect for Apple, nor its merry brand of customers sheep...I'll admit that the Macs handle multiple large graphics files easier than the PC, but that's about it.

The 90s called and asked for its meme back.


Did they ask for $929, also?
 
2013-01-29 03:48:51 PM  

Mercutio74: Is there any excuse for a tablet to be at this price point in this day and age? I could understand if it was something we'd never seen before, but man I'd be tempted to get something with more intrinsic value.


Maybe if you only know Mac computers exist, and the only laptops you know of are the new Macbooks, then this is a cheaper alternative. But otherwise, really not.

/Just got a Nexus 7 for $200... yeah, it doesn't have this much storage, but I don't actually have any reason for it to have this much storage
//Do have an iPhone though
 
2013-01-29 03:51:31 PM  
my Asus transformer prime has 32gb onboard, a 64gb micro sdxc card micro card inside and a 128gb full size sdxc card in the keyboard dock that also converts it into a flippin' ultrabook.

/you can get the whole setup refurbished from newegg for less than the ipad in the tfa.
//32 + 64 + 128 > 128 with no expansion options.
/// get to use a keyboard and mouse if i want to.
//// aluminum and gorilla glass ftw.
 
2013-01-29 03:53:31 PM  

Weaver95: actually, I use my ipad for storing TV shows, the occasional movie and a metric assload of tabletop RPG books on PDF file. you would not believe how useful that thing is for running a tabletop RPG game.  throw in a portable speaker of some sort and you can do music and sound effects for your game.  lightweight, easily portable, and great for that sort of setting.


Yea, we use something similar when we game. I also wanted a Surface Pro so I could also do work without needed to luck a laptop around, browse media when I'm about, etc, and have it be compatible with everything I own. Frankly, the lack of iPad's SD card reader for me is a deal-breaker, otherwise I would get an iPad. I have way too much media I want to carry around..

We do use them company wide for work though; they make great 'virtual paper' in the field, where I can simply enter data into pre-generated sheets, browse and edit drawings, and upload the whole kit to database for processing/triage after a long day. Also, the whole 'no soggy paper' part is a good benefit too.

/i think we're getting Lenovo tablets next
//full-suite Office on a tablet you say?
 
2013-01-29 03:54:11 PM  

Weaver95: actually, I use my ipad for storing TV shows, the occasional movie and a metric assload of tabletop RPG books on PDF file. you would not believe how useful that thing is for running a tabletop RPG game.  throw in a portable speaker of some sort and you can do music and sound effects for your game.  lightweight, easily portable, and great for that sort of setting.


Being the jackass I am, I'd use that ability to screw with friends when running some 40k games.

"Ok, I'm charging my orks towards that Imperial Guard squad."

*BENNY HILL SONG*

"....I hate you so goddamn much."
 
2013-01-29 03:56:40 PM  
The market has to saturate at some point, no?
 
2013-01-29 03:56:46 PM  
cat videos and food pictures I'm guessing these are euphanisms
 
2013-01-29 03:58:15 PM  

Mikey1969: Allow me to rephrase this... The OS handles this better. How do I know? I have been working in graphics off and on since starting school in '00. I often would do school projects at school and at home, and I would often work on personal projects at home and also at work. At home, I would have a PC, at work, I would have a Mac. Both pretty much equal in specs, sometimes with the PC having better specs than the Mac. I could drag 20-30 .psd's into the PS icon, and switch between PS and Illustrator smoothly. Those files would open quickly and work well. With the Windows machine, it wasn't that easy, and you definitely couldn't have that many files open and both apps open(Sometimes with InDesign open as well). So yeah, it's the OS, but go ahed and install it on a Windows system and let me know how that works. "It's got an Intel chip", after all.


So your home PC is slower than your work PC even with comparable specs and you think that this is due to the OS and not the plethora of malware/bloatware/stupid shiat that most people have on their home PC as opposed to their work PC?

You also seem think that proprietary code in the mac OS that doesn't allow it to be installed on non mac approved hardware proves that mac hardware is somehow different from other hardware.

So you believe both of these things to be true based on purely anecdotal evidence in the face of my perfectly logical response that 1s and 0s take up the same amount of space in memory regardless of what type of file they are organized into and the known fact that all modern mac processors are Intel chips. The 'macs are better at graphics' stuff comes from a long time ago when the mac processors were actually different and out performed non mac processors in floating point calculations which were used in rendering raster images. This is no longer true. It hasn't been true for many years now.
 
2013-01-29 03:59:20 PM  

UrCa: I feel like if they ever do add some sort of expandable storage, their format will be some proprietary Apple thing (Like Sony and memory sticks) but they're holding back on it because they don't yet know how to keep third party vendors from selling the storage for half of what Apple asks.


So you immediately go to some conspiracy theory instead of a more rational excuse?  Like SSD port would take up too much space and with everything going to the cloud anyways - what is the point?

/and unlike Sony - Apple generally goes to standards based interfaces
//I return you to your tin foil hat world
 
2013-01-29 03:59:46 PM  

Mikey1969: Egoy3k: Mikey1969: I have no respect for Apple, nor its merry brand of customers sheep...I'll admit that the Macs handle multiple large graphics files easier than the PC, but that's about it.

How does the mac hardware know that they are graphics files as opposed to any other bunch of 1s and and 0s? Also macs have intel processors now.

Allow me to rephrase this... The OS handles this better. How do I know? I have been working in graphics off and on since starting school in '00. I often would do school projects at school and at home, and I would often work on personal projects at home and also at work. At home, I would have a PC, at work, I would have a Mac. Both pretty much equal in specs, sometimes with the PC having better specs than the Mac. I could drag 20-30 .psd's into the PS icon, and switch between PS and Illustrator smoothly. Those files would open quickly and work well. With the Windows machine, it wasn't that easy, and you definitely couldn't have that many files open and both apps open(Sometimes with InDesign open as well). So yeah, it's the OS, but go ahed and install it on a Windows system and let me know how that works. "It's got an Intel chip", after all.


I worked in both when I was in school. I didn't notice a difference.
 
2013-01-29 04:00:02 PM  
without reading the article, is the answer, buy another ipad?

/ that seems like their solution to every problem.
 
2013-01-29 04:01:50 PM  

gingerjet: Like SSD port would take up too much space


LOL

and with everything going to the cloud anyways - what is the point?

The cloud isn't secure.
 
2013-01-29 04:07:46 PM  

Egoy3k: So your home PC is slower than your work PC even with comparable specs and you think that this is due to the OS and not the plethora of malware/bloatware/stupid shiat that most people have on their home PC as opposed to their work PC?

You also seem think that proprietary code in the mac OS that doesn't allow it to be installed on non mac approved hardware proves that mac hardware is somehow different from other hardware.

So you believe both of these things to be true based on purely anecdotal evidence in the face of my perfectly logical response that 1s and 0s take up the same amount of space in memory regardless of what type of file they are organized into and the known fact that all modern mac processors are Intel chips. The 'macs are better at graphics' stuff comes from a long time ago when the mac processors were actually different and out performed non mac processors in floating point calculations which were used in rendering raster images. This is no longer true. It hasn't been true for many years now.


I offer no opinion on whether OS X actually processes graphics faster or not, as I have no benchmark evidence. However, you are incorrect that it would not be possible for OS X (or any OS) to be better at it. Processing is not as simple as "1's and 0's in memory", nor is the speed or efficiency at which data gets processed determined strictly by hardware. You haven't actually offered anything more than your own opinion and anecdotal evidence.
 
2013-01-29 04:08:26 PM  

lordargent: BKITU: Calmamity: Over $900?!

Oh, wait, that's a whole order of magnitude....

It works if you use dimes ... what's the currency symbol for dimes?


It's probably similar to the shorthand for types of dice:

¢1 = Penny
¢5 = Nickel
¢10 = Dime
And so on...

Example:
I bought a coffee on my way to work this morning and it cost me 4¢25, 1¢5, and 1¢1.
 
2013-01-29 04:08:53 PM  

Egoy3k: So your home PC is slower than your work PC even with comparable specs and you think that this is due to the OS and not the plethora of malware/bloatware/stupid shiat that most people have on their home PC as opposed to their work PC?


In most cases - I would think the opposite is true.  Work PCs are bloated down with some many agents needed to manage it that it kills the performance of the machine.
 
2013-01-29 04:11:23 PM  

Egoy3k: So your home PC is slower than your work PC even with comparable specs and you think that this is due to the OS and not the plethora of malware/bloatware/stupid shiat that most people have on their home PC as opposed to their work PC?

You also seem think that proprietary code in the mac OS that doesn't allow it to be installed on non mac approved hardware proves that mac hardware is somehow different from other hardware.

So you believe both of these things to be true based on purely anecdotal evidence in the face of my perfectly logical response that 1s and 0s take up the same amount of space in memory regardless of what type of file they are organized into and the known fact that all modern mac processors are Intel chips. The 'macs are better at graphics' stuff comes from a long time ago when the mac processors were actually different and out performed non mac processors in floating point calculations which were used in rendering raster images. This is no longer true. It hasn't been true for many years now.


I have to say I'm with mikey on this one. Something about OSX just handles video better... or seems to anyhow. Personally, every computer I own is PC but at work I usually use Macs. And honestly, I'm happy to do so... I get more value out of my PCs, obviously, but when it comes to doing pretty much anything Adobe or Avid, the macs seem snappier even if they've got less under the hood.

There's no shame in it... what makes OSX good at handling images is more than made up by the fact that I much prefer the flexibility of 3rd party software offerings for a Windows machine. That, and of course the price point.
 
2013-01-29 04:11:40 PM  

YouWinAgainGravity: Egoy3k: So your home PC is slower than your work PC even with comparable specs and you think that this is due to the OS and not the plethora of malware/bloatware/stupid shiat that most people have on their home PC as opposed to their work PC?

You also seem think that proprietary code in the mac OS that doesn't allow it to be installed on non mac approved hardware proves that mac hardware is somehow different from other hardware.

So you believe both of these things to be true based on purely anecdotal evidence in the face of my perfectly logical response that 1s and 0s take up the same amount of space in memory regardless of what type of file they are organized into and the known fact that all modern mac processors are Intel chips. The 'macs are better at graphics' stuff comes from a long time ago when the mac processors were actually different and out performed non mac processors in floating point calculations which were used in rendering raster images. This is no longer true. It hasn't been true for many years now.

I offer no opinion on whether OS X actually processes graphics faster or not, as I have no benchmark evidence. However, you are incorrect that it would not be possible for OS X (or any OS) to be better at it. Processing is not as simple as "1's and 0's in memory", nor is the speed or efficiency at which data gets processed determined strictly by hardware. You haven't actually offered anything more than your own opinion and anecdotal evidence.


It's also possible that Photoshop for Mac is a better program than Photoshop for Windows. I know iTunes for Mac runs like butter compared to iTunes for Windows, which is the bane of my existence.

However, in my experiences the differences are non-existent. Although I will attest to the "Macs are for graphic design" myth being propagated past its actual application. I do all my design on Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign in Windows and there's no difference in the final outcome, or my speed in accomplishing it.
 
2013-01-29 04:12:02 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: The cloud isn't secure.


Why not?
 
2013-01-29 04:13:28 PM  

pute kisses like a man: without reading the article, is the answer, buy another ipad?


Excellent guess. Spot on, too.
 
2013-01-29 04:15:21 PM  

Treygreen13: It's also possible that Photoshop for Mac is a better program than Photoshop for Windows. I know iTunes for Mac runs like butter compared to iTunes for Windows, which is the bane of my existence.

However, in my experiences the differences are non-existent. Although I will attest to the "Macs are for graphic design" myth being propagated past its actual application. I do all my design on Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign in Windows and there's no difference in the final outcome, or my speed in ...


Yup, there's a lot of variables here. It could be that PS for Mac is more efficient than PS for Windows. It could be the difference in the API calls to the OS. It could be the OS itself (which can indeed store information about the files being processed and do things like offload image processing to the GPU or possibly have code and routines specifically designed for handling images). It could be how the compiler made the assembly code. It could even be a placebo affect and there be no real difference in speed.

It's never as simple though as "the hardware is the same so processing must be the same, because 1's and 0's".
 
2013-01-29 04:15:21 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: gingerjet: Like SSD port would take up too much space

LOL

and with everything going to the cloud anyways - what is the point?

The cloud isn't secure.


cloud isn't always available either. it is subject to bandwidth and connection limitations.
try streaming 128 gb of data once a week for a month on your 5 gb/month data plan and see what happens.

/enjoy your data charges from using 'the cloud'
 
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