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(Dallas News)   First order of business has Texas legislator, Ryan Guillen, (Doh) introducing a bill that would require Texas & Texas A&M to resume their annual football game   (dallasnews.com) divider line 64
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2013-01-29 11:05:02 AM
Set up a bowl game, then.
 
2013-01-29 11:11:37 AM
I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.
 
2013-01-29 11:22:00 AM

Krieghund: I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.


I can only think of a few times that the out of state rivalry would trump an in state game rivalry.

1. Ohio State - Michigan
2. Texas - Oklahoma
3. Any SEC game with two closely ranked and out of state teams

I like the instate games like Florida and FSU or Texas and Texas A&M but it wouldn't work everywhere. I wish my university (Ohio) had a yearly game with Ohio State but we'd be curb stomped almost every year
 
2013-01-29 11:29:13 AM

Krieghund: I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.


I suspect that having people from out-of-state into the state brings more money (tax and otherwise) INTO the state.
 
2013-01-29 11:31:59 AM

Kyosuke: Krieghund: I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.

I suspect that having people from out-of-state into the state brings more money (tax and otherwise) INTO the state.


I would think so, with hotels and restaurants for the out of state people.
 
2013-01-29 11:35:07 AM
And we let these people write our textbooks?
 
2013-01-29 11:38:04 AM

Aar1012: Krieghund: I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.

I can only think of a few times that the out of state rivalry would trump an in state game rivalry.

1. Ohio State - Michigan
2. Texas - Oklahoma
3. Any SEC game with two closely ranked and out of state teams

I like the instate games like Florida and FSU or Texas and Texas A&M but it wouldn't work everywhere. I wish my university (Ohio) had a yearly game with Ohio State but we'd be curb stomped almost every year


It may technically be out of state rivalry but it is played in the State of Texas every year.
 
2013-01-29 11:39:25 AM

max_pooper: Aar1012: Krieghund: I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.

I can only think of a few times that the out of state rivalry would trump an in state game rivalry.

1. Ohio State - Michigan
2. Texas - Oklahoma
3. Any SEC game with two closely ranked and out of state teams

I like the instate games like Florida and FSU or Texas and Texas A&M but it wouldn't work everywhere. I wish my university (Ohio) had a yearly game with Ohio State but we'd be curb stomped almost every year

It may technically be out of state rivalry but it is played in the State of Texas every year.


That's only because no one would voluntarily travel to Oklahoma.
 
2013-01-29 11:47:03 AM

Lane83: max_pooper: Aar1012: Krieghund: I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.

I can only think of a few times that the out of state rivalry would trump an in state game rivalry.

1. Ohio State - Michigan
2. Texas - Oklahoma
3. Any SEC game with two closely ranked and out of state teams

I like the instate games like Florida and FSU or Texas and Texas A&M but it wouldn't work everywhere. I wish my university (Ohio) had a yearly game with Ohio State but we'd be curb stomped almost every year

It may technically be out of state rivalry but it is played in the State of Texas every year.

That's only because no one would voluntarily travel to Oklahoma.


Feels your pain.

4.bp.blogspot.com
//Too soon?
 
2013-01-29 11:47:57 AM
businesses in Dallas will tell you that they do better after Okiehoma wins versus Texas wins. Okies tend to stick around and celebrate. Texas fans bust ass back to Austin win/lose/draw.
 
2013-01-29 11:49:14 AM
How about "no"? The Baggies left for the greener pastures of the SEC, let the traitorous crybabies stay there.
 
2013-01-29 11:49:50 AM

ColTomParker: businesses in Dallas will tell you that they do better after Okiehoma wins versus Texas wins. Okies tend to stick around and celebrate. Texas fans bust ass back to Austin win/lose/draw.


Having lived in Dallas for many years I can tell you that no amount of money is worth putting up with OU fans.
 
2013-01-29 11:49:51 AM

max_pooper: It may technically be out of state rivalry but it is played in the State of Texas every year.


Meh, Dallas is practically Southern Oklahoma as it is.
 
2013-01-29 11:50:54 AM

lilplatinum: max_pooper: It may technically be out of state rivalry but it is played in the State of Texas every year.

Meh, Dallas is practically Southern Oklahoma as it is.


Lies. We have plumbing.
 
2013-01-29 11:51:21 AM
Gee and with only about 6.3 million Texans without health insurance, Link this is the main priority?
 
2013-01-29 11:51:37 AM

ColTomParker: businesses in Dallas will tell you that they do better after Okiehoma wins versus Texas wins. Okies tend to stick around and celebrate. Texas fans bust ass back to Austin win/lose/draw.


Because nobody who has a real city to go back and party in (or hell, even Houston) would willingly stay in Dallas one moment longer than absolutely necessary.
 
2013-01-29 11:52:15 AM

EyeballKid: And we let these people write our textbooks?


They don't write the textbooks, just selectively edit them for "truth" and "accuracy".
 
2013-01-29 11:53:19 AM
You know that if the Aggies had held on to win that last game, UT would have been screaming to keep playing.
 
2013-01-29 11:54:19 AM

ColTomParker: businesses in Dallas will tell you that they do better after Okiehoma wins versus Texas wins. Okies tend to stick around and celebrate. Texas fans bust ass back to Austin win/lose/draw.


That's because Dallas sucks.

OU fans only hang out because Dallas seems like Emerald City compared to Norman, Oklahoma.
 
2013-01-29 11:56:41 AM
Why do the Aggys want to resume a match that they always lose?

Where are the Aggy jokes?
 
2013-01-29 11:58:14 AM
You got your sports tab in my politics tab.
 
2013-01-29 11:59:16 AM

tulax: You know that if the Aggies had held on to win that last game, UT would have been screaming to keep playing.


Leave your aunt's genitalia out of this.
 
2013-01-29 11:59:58 AM

tulax: You know that if the Aggies had held on to win that last game, UT would have been screaming to keep playing.


Umm....no.
We don't miss the nut-squeezin', jackbooted tards.
i107.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-29 12:01:40 PM

tulax: You know that if the Aggies had held on to win that last game, UT would have been screaming to keep playing.


HAHAHAHAHA YOU LOST THE LAST MATCHUP WITH YOUR BIG BROTHER! FOREVER!
 
2013-01-29 12:02:30 PM

tulax: You know that if the Aggies had held on to win that last game, UT would have been screaming to keep playing.


Not really. Its not even possible to schedule a game for years and Texas doesn't much consider A&M to be all that big a rivalry any more.

Source: Aggie living in Austin, Texas.
 
2013-01-29 12:12:13 PM

Aar1012: I can only think of a few times that the out of state rivalry would trump an in state game rivalry.

1. Ohio State - Michigan
2. Texas - Oklahoma
3. Any SEC game with two closely ranked and out of state teams


You can certainly add Kansas-Missouri, even though that rivalry is in the same graveyard as UT-aTm. Missouri didn't have a comparable in-state rival, and KU-K-State isn't anything close to the same thing. Also, no other rivalry includes burning down the other college's town.
 
2013-01-29 12:16:07 PM
It's not like it would be a good game, either. Texas and A&M are in different conferences and, more than likely, different leagues as far as talent is concerned. A rivalry is great if, eventually, there's a chance for one team to come out on top, but it's not fun for the other team or the rivalry in general if one team just dominates for multiple years. If a game would have happened last season, Texas (8-4) would have more than likely lost, hard, to Texas A&M(10-2) and will if they do play for at least the next two years.
 
2013-01-29 12:16:29 PM

Aar1012: Krieghund: I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.

I can only think of a few times that the out of state rivalry would trump an in state game rivalry.

1. Ohio State - Michigan
2. Texas - Oklahoma
3. Any SEC game with two closely ranked and out of state teams

I like the instate games like Florida and FSU or Texas and Texas A&M but it wouldn't work everywhere. I wish my university (Ohio) had a yearly game with Ohio State but we'd be curb stomped almost every year


blogs.ajc.com

Georgia v. Florida.
 
2013-01-29 12:19:50 PM

Kyosuke: Krieghund: I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.

I suspect that having people from out-of-state into the state brings more money (tax and otherwise) INTO the state.


It's not about bringing money in, it is about getting people to spend it. If people book a hotel for an in state rivalry, that's hotel tax money right there. If the game never happened, they wouldn't book the hotel and thus no money. Plus with an instate rivalry, 100% of money is spent in the state. Whereas out of state, you only see that money every other year in terms of state taxes.

Basically Texas vs Texas A&M likely generates more tax revenue than Texas beats the hell out of some Sun Belt school, so it is in the state's interest for the game to happen.
 
2013-01-29 12:27:36 PM
Dear texas university,

www.polyvore.com

Love,

Texas A&M University
 
2013-01-29 12:31:51 PM

AnimeNathan: It's not like it would be a good game, either. Texas and A&M are in different conferences and, more than likely, different leagues as far as talent is concerned. A rivalry is great if, eventually, there's a chance for one team to come out on top, but it's not fun for the other team or the rivalry in general if one team just dominates for multiple years. If a game would have happened last season, Texas (8-4) would have more than likely lost, hard, to Texas A&M(10-2) and will if they do play for at least the next two years.


Must be why atm ran away, having a 37-76-5 record against your biggest "rival" doesn't sound like much fun.

Also the idea that somehow atm is going to outrecruit UT forever now because they are in the SEC is laughable. Enjoy your hot shot QB while you have him, most Longhorns can attest it kind of sucks when they leave.
 
2013-01-29 12:44:06 PM

George_W_Hussein: Dear texas university,

[www.polyvore.com image 300x300]

Love,

Texas A&M University


What did y'all do with your old fight song?
 
2013-01-29 12:47:31 PM
You're ignoring the fact that since the scholarship limit, UT has been 18-19. Funny how things change when you can't buy up all the talent.

With A&M being all-military until 1965, and all-male until 1974, Texas should be embarrassed that they ever lost to A&M before 1974. Talk about a recruiting advantage? If you had the chance to go into a living room in the middle of Podunk, TX, and tell a Junior in High School that playing for UT meant no military service (until 1965) AND there'd be girls on campus (until 1974) and THEN you lost to the Aggies - that should be an embarrassment.
 
2013-01-29 12:48:16 PM

Maud Dib: tulax: You know that if the Aggies had held on to win that last game, UT would have been screaming to keep playing.

Umm....no.
We don't miss the nut-squeezin', jackbooted tards.
[i107.photobucket.com image 450x335]


What the stupid hell is that?
 
2013-01-29 12:50:20 PM

AnimeNathan: You're ignoring the fact that since the scholarship limit, UT has been 18-19. Funny how things change when you can't buy up all the talent.

With A&M being all-military until 1965, and all-male until 1974, Texas should be embarrassed that they ever lost to A&M before 1974. Talk about a recruiting advantage? If you had the chance to go into a living room in the middle of Podunk, TX, and tell a Junior in High School that playing for UT meant no military service AND there'd be girls on campus and THEN you lost to the Aggies - that should be an embarrassment.

 
2013-01-29 12:51:09 PM

moops: Why do the Aggys want to resume a match that they always lose?

Where are the Aggy jokes?


College Station, Tx.
 
2013-01-29 12:53:15 PM

Kyosuke: moops: Why do the Aggys want to resume a match that they always lose?

Where are the Aggy jokes?

College Station, Tx.


Why do Aggies put their diplomas in their car's back window?
So they can park in the handicap spaces.
 
2013-01-29 12:55:42 PM
Culled liberally from Reddit:

This is going to be an interesting decision.

I love the rivalry, but there are a lot of things that will have to be figured out:

1) SOS.
Our Strength of Schedule is currently out the roof. We play Alabama and LSU, and normally we will play tough Arkansas and Auburn teams. The Mississippi schools are getting better all the time. We also will have a matched game each year with South Carolina. Those are some tough teams.
Texas has Oklahoma. And a bunch of scrubs. And we saw what Oklahoma was capable of in the Cotton Bowl this year.

2) Tickets.
Keep in mind our strength of schedule. Now think about how Texas will sell season tickets going into the future. They will talk up the Thanksgiving game ... where they had about 30,000 fans to watch TCU beat up on Texas at home. That was their best home game of the season.
If we renew the rivalry, we give them a marquee game at home every other year. That will only help them.

3) Championship.
A&M's goal is to win a National Championship. In our conference, we have the ability to play in the championship game. We came in fifth in the SEC this year and we were still in the talks for the NCG. KState and OU tied for 1st in the Big12, but didn't get a mention. My point here is that we play a sufficiently strong schedule to get what we want. You don't get any awards for playing the toughest schedule in the nation.

4) It only helps Texas at this point.
 
2013-01-29 01:02:41 PM
This is NOT what a state legislature is supposed to concern itself with.

I'd almost like to see it pass just so the school presidents and boards of directors could tell the state legislature exactly how to go fark itself.
 
2013-01-29 01:03:29 PM

AnimeNathan: Our Strength of Schedule is currently out the roof. We play Alabama and LSU, and normally we will play tough Arkansas and Auburn teams. The Mississippi schools are getting better all the time. We also will have a matched game each year with South Carolina. Those are some tough teams.
Texas has Oklahoma. And a bunch of scrubs. And we saw what Oklahoma was capable of in the Cotton Bowl this year.


The SEC is so farking top heavy, there are plenty of scrubs there.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt12.htm

The numbers are different - A&M was 6 and Texas was 12. Yes, the aggies played a harder schedule and were better this year. No, their schedule was not light years better (lets not pretend that LSU was some kind of monster this year), nor was there even a particularly good team this year.

But enjoy the delusion that somehow just being in the SEC is going to make all the talent in the world go to your school.
 
2013-01-29 01:05:49 PM

cefm: This is NOT what a state legislature is supposed to concern itself with.

I'd almost like to see it pass just so the school presidents and boards of directors could tell the state legislature exactly how to go fark itself.


Let the legislature spend all the time they want on it. That way they have less time to fark up everything else.
 
2013-01-29 01:18:30 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: George_W_Hussein: Dear texas university,

[www.polyvore.com image 300x300]

Love,

Texas A&M University

What did y'all do with your old fight song?


Switch it to LSU or Bama instead...
 
2013-01-29 01:45:54 PM
i260.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-29 01:53:56 PM

Zeb Hesselgresser: tulax: You know that if the Aggies had held on to win that last game, UT would have been screaming to keep playing.

Leave your aunt's genitalia out of this.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-29 01:57:02 PM

lilplatinum: But enjoy the delusion that somehow just being in the SEC is going to make all the talent in the world go to your school.


Seems to be working out pretty well so far.
 
2013-01-29 02:17:48 PM

Lane83: max_pooper: Aar1012: Krieghund: I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.

I can only think of a few times that the out of state rivalry would trump an in state game rivalry.

1. Ohio State - Michigan
2. Texas - Oklahoma
3. Any SEC game with two closely ranked and out of state teams

I like the instate games like Florida and FSU or Texas and Texas A&M but it wouldn't work everywhere. I wish my university (Ohio) had a yearly game with Ohio State but we'd be curb stomped almost every year

It may technically be out of state rivalry but it is played in the State of Texas every year.

That's only because no one would voluntarily travel to Oklahoma.


When I worked at the old Main Library in downtown Dallas in the '60s & '70s, it was next door -- literally -- to the Statler Hilton, which was OU HQ every year. Red-shirted mobs everywhere. We weren't allowed to close the library on Texas-OU game day, so we always had to fight our way through the yellow wooden barricades so we could escape and go home. Even though I went to UT, I never especially hated OU -- until I worked there.

OTOH, my younger brother went to A&M. We never did get along.
 
2013-01-29 02:23:52 PM
Heh.

Republicans: HURR GAYS AND DEM IMMIGRINTS AND WELFARE MOMS
Democrats: FOOOOOOOOTTBBAAAAAAALLLLL
 
2013-01-29 02:46:16 PM
Separation of church and state, Guillen.
 
2013-01-29 02:51:56 PM

Aar1012: Krieghund: I would like to see a comparison of the economic impact of a major rivalry instate-game played every year, versus the impact of having fans coming from out of state for two games, each played every other year. I suspect the instate rivalry would generate more tax dollars.

I can only think of a few times that the out of state rivalry would trump an in state game rivalry.

1. Ohio State - Michigan
2. Texas - Oklahoma
3. Any SEC game with two closely ranked and out of state teams

I like the instate games like Florida and FSU or Texas and Texas A&M but it wouldn't work everywhere. I wish my university (Ohio) had a yearly game with Ohio State but we'd be curb stomped almost every year


And, from a Michigan perspective, I would question if the Ohio State game raises more revenue than U of M versus Michigan State. From Ohio's perspective, yeah, sure.
 
2013-01-29 02:56:27 PM
What y'all have to understand, first and foremost, is that Rep. Guillen is both a Democrat and an A&M grad.

I honestly didn't think it was possible to be both.
 
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