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(The Ledger)   Man spits on grass after refusing pat-down. Backup officer spits on grass after arriving on scene. Guess which one spent the night in jail for spitting on the grass?   (theledger.com) divider line 104
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2013-01-29 11:07:39 AM
Did ya even need to ask Subby?
 
2013-01-29 11:08:21 AM
Seriously? Spitting on the grass? What is this, Singapore?
 
2013-01-29 11:10:47 AM
This Lakeland man spat on the grass
But the officer won't let this pass
"My sputum's not evil
but yours is illegal
So now I'll arrest your sad ass."
 
2013-01-29 11:11:14 AM
Contempt of cop is usually a beatable offense.
 
2013-01-29 11:12:34 AM
What good is a police state if you can't randomly arrest law abiding citizens?
 
2013-01-29 11:12:34 AM
and yall keep voting Democrat....
 
2013-01-29 11:12:43 AM
I think I would have urinated in the patrol car. There's no law against that, and the arresting officer likely couldn't get rid of the smell until a shift change.
 
2013-01-29 11:13:10 AM
If you have nothing to hide -let them pat you down and be on your way.
 
2013-01-29 11:13:40 AM

Katolu: Contempt of cop is usually a beatable offense.


True, he got off pretty easy. Also, he didnt have to spend 3 days in solitary because they forgot about him.

/The boot.... lick it.
 
2013-01-29 11:14:49 AM

abhorrent1: If you have nothing to hide -let them pat you down and be on your way.


There's always one.

Sigh.
 
2013-01-29 11:15:05 AM
The guy seems like an asshole. I'm not saying we should lock up assholes (god knows I'd be the first on the block to be taken away), but people should try not to be assholes, especially around cops.

And chewing tobacco is a farking nasty habit. I've never met someone who used chewing tobacco that didn't need a beatdown.
 
rpm
2013-01-29 11:15:21 AM

abhorrent1: If you have nothing to hide -let them pat you down and be on your way.


No.
 
2013-01-29 11:17:10 AM

abhorrent1: If you have nothing to hide -let them pat you down and be on your way.


If only more citizens were like you and knew their place. Most police were obnoxious fat kids who were picked on. They finally have power now and want to exercise it. If only everyone would realize it the way you do and comply.
 
2013-01-29 11:17:37 AM

abhorrent1: If you have nothing to hide -let them pat you down and be on your way.


That works for me, when do I get to pat down the government for their secrets?
 
m00
2013-01-29 11:17:57 AM
"Anderson wrote in a report that he saw a bulge in Stoiber's shorts that he thought "was large enough to conceal a weapon, including a handgun." It turned out to be his wallet, a can of Grizzly snuff and keys."


The officers should have just shot him the moment they saw something that possibly, maybe, could be a firearm. You know, to ensure the safety of the officers.
 
2013-01-29 11:19:57 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-29 11:24:18 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The guy seems like an asshole. I'm not saying we should lock up assholes (god knows I'd be the first on the block to be taken away), but people should try not to be assholes, especially around cops.

And chewing tobacco is a farking nasty habit. I've never met someone who used chewing tobacco that didn't need a beatdown.


The guy is absolutely an asshole. BUT - he was just out walking in his neighborhood. That's not illegal or a reason to have his 4th Amendment Rights shiat on. The dipshiat cop was abusing his power (gee, go figure). A slap on the wrist to "write a paper" is complete horseshiat. About 3 weeks ago, I was in my front yard with my dog. A cop drove by, rolled down his window, chatted with me why I was out at 3:00 a.m. He explained there was a car break-in a few nights earlier (we don't have much crime), told me to have a good night and drove on. That's reasonable. If he had told me to empty my pockets I would be in an article on Fark too for being an asshole, just like this guy.
 
2013-01-29 11:24:19 AM

rpm: abhorrent1: If you have nothing to hide -let them pat you down and be on your way.

No.


But you're getting felt up for free! I can't see how you lose.
 
2013-01-29 11:24:38 AM
Shouldn't have been keeping all his dirt in the sergeant's hole like that.
 
2013-01-29 11:25:37 AM

clane: and yall keep voting Democrat....


Great point. if Lakeland had voted in any Democrats, it may have even made sense rather than sounding like a pathetic partisan hack attack. Do keep trying though. Once day you'll get it.
 
2013-01-29 11:26:49 AM

abhorrent1: If you have nothing to hide -let them pat you down and be on your way.


10/10
 
2013-01-29 11:28:07 AM

clane: and yall keep voting Democrat....


Awww, whose a baby troll, you are. Such a cute little troll maybe someday you will be all grown up and able to derail a thread, make people hate you, and be a big troll, but I doubt it.
 
2013-01-29 11:32:00 AM
Spitting on sidewalks is gross. Especially chew shiat.
I've been tempted to pick up a rock and throw it at people that do that.
But I'm chicken and don't want to get my ass kicked.
 
2013-01-29 11:35:48 AM

abhorrent1: If you have nothing to hide -let them pat you down and be on your way.


I have stuff to hide. Nothing illegal, but it is private.
 
2013-01-29 11:36:17 AM

EddieWearsUnderoos: abhorrent1: If you have nothing to hide -let them pat you down and be on your way.

10/10


agreed
 
2013-01-29 11:39:03 AM

HailRobonia: This Lakeland man spat on the grass
But the officer won't let this pass
"My sputum's not evil
but yours is illegal
So now I'll arrest your sad ass."


I love it!
/Won't you all join us?
 
2013-01-29 11:40:27 AM

Too Pretty For Prison: AverageAmericanGuy: The guy seems like an asshole. I'm not saying we should lock up assholes (god knows I'd be the first on the block to be taken away), but people should try not to be assholes, especially around cops.

And chewing tobacco is a farking nasty habit. I've never met someone who used chewing tobacco that didn't need a beatdown.

The guy is absolutely an asshole. BUT - he was just out walking in his neighborhood. That's not illegal or a reason to have his 4th Amendment Rights shiat on. The dipshiat cop was abusing his power (gee, go figure). A slap on the wrist to "write a paper" is complete horseshiat. About 3 weeks ago, I was in my front yard with my dog. A cop drove by, rolled down his window, chatted with me why I was out at 3:00 a.m. He explained there was a car break-in a few nights earlier (we don't have much crime), told me to have a good night and drove on. That's reasonable. If he had told me to empty my pockets I would be in an article on Fark too for being an asshole, just like this guy.


Why is the guy an asshole? Is it because of the chewing tobacco? Or is it because he had the gall to loudly complain when police ran roughshod over his rights?

I think he was brave for taking a stand and not meekly submitting, as the vast majority of people in his situation would do. I see nothing in the article that warrants criticism of him.
 
2013-01-29 11:41:56 AM

Too Pretty For Prison: AverageAmericanGuy: The guy seems like an asshole. I'm not saying we should lock up assholes (god knows I'd be the first on the block to be taken away), but people should try not to be assholes, especially around cops.

And chewing tobacco is a farking nasty habit. I've never met someone who used chewing tobacco that didn't need a beatdown.

The guy is absolutely an asshole. BUT - he was just out walking in his neighborhood. That's not illegal or a reason to have his 4th Amendment Rights shiat on. The dipshiat cop was abusing his power (gee, go figure). A slap on the wrist to "write a paper" is complete horseshiat. About 3 weeks ago, I was in my front yard with my dog. A cop drove by, rolled down his window, chatted with me why I was out at 3:00 a.m. He explained there was a car break-in a few nights earlier (we don't have much crime), told me to have a good night and drove on. That's reasonable. If he had told me to empty my pockets I would be in an article on Fark too for being an asshole, just like this guy.


THIS x 100. All of this was escalated because Mr. Citizen questioned the Po-po. 100% abuse of power.
 
2013-01-29 11:45:57 AM
Sounds like the guy in the article is looking for a hug and a payout.

It's funny how the guy claims he's totally innocent (aren't they all) and was polite and cooperative, etc.  Yet they had the right to search him and, if he would have just cooperated, he would have been on his merry way a few minutes later.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/t/terry-stop/

But it sounds like he couldn't keep his mouth shut, made comments about a dead cop, spit near a cop's feet and generally acted like an asshole.

Also interesting how the cops salaries had to be mentioned in the article.  I think they forgot something.


Anderson has worked for the department since July 2008 and earns $46,016 a year. Ivancevich was hired as an officer in March 2010 and makes $43,789 a year. Stoiber hasn't worked a real job in a while, but supplements his late-night gaming career by breaking into houses in the neighborhood.
 
2013-01-29 11:46:46 AM
Thank goodness there are upstanding citizens out there who refuse to have their civil rights spit upon. (Link goes to Alex Jones 6/5/12 report of the arrest.)

www.mugshotsworld.com

//  He has made his point three times over. The officers have been sent to civil rights school and the world is again safe for insomniac baseball chat.
 
2013-01-29 11:47:23 AM
When you just don't want to deal with anyone - this works wonders. Works great on grass too.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-29 11:49:44 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: people should try not to be assholes, especially around cops


Is it illegal to be an asshole around a cop?......if not the the police are corrupt.
 
2013-01-29 11:59:42 AM

tukatz: Sounds like the guy in the article is looking for a hug and a payout.


No, more like

Stoiber said he isn't satisfied and thinks the officers should lose their jobs.

Which is perfectly reasonable. Throw those power abusing farks out on their asses.
 
2013-01-29 12:01:09 PM

meintx2001: Too Pretty For Prison: AverageAmericanGuy: The guy seems like an asshole. I'm not saying we should lock up assholes (god knows I'd be the first on the block to be taken away), but people should try not to be assholes, especially around cops.

And chewing tobacco is a farking nasty habit. I've never met someone who used chewing tobacco that didn't need a beatdown.

The guy is absolutely an asshole. BUT - he was just out walking in his neighborhood. That's not illegal or a reason to have his 4th Amendment Rights shiat on. The dipshiat cop was abusing his power (gee, go figure). A slap on the wrist to "write a paper" is complete horseshiat. About 3 weeks ago, I was in my front yard with my dog. A cop drove by, rolled down his window, chatted with me why I was out at 3:00 a.m. He explained there was a car break-in a few nights earlier (we don't have much crime), told me to have a good night and drove on. That's reasonable. If he had told me to empty my pockets I would be in an article on Fark too for being an asshole, just like this guy.

THIS x 100. All of this was escalated because Mr. Citizen questioned the Po-po. 100% abuse of power.


Ahhhm. Ahhhm. I am sorry, maybe you didn't get the memo, but the word "Po-Po" has been forbidden by unanimous consent of pretty much everybody in the world. Same goes for "totes", "bestie", and "man cave".
 
2013-01-29 12:03:29 PM

Too Pretty For Prison: Most police were obnoxious fat kids who were picked on.


Pretty much this. Officers come from two backgrounds: bullies who never grew up, and the bullied who figured out that they can be the bullies.

Sure, there is the occasional naive guy who "wants to make a difference", but they burn out quick.
 
2013-01-29 12:05:08 PM

tukatz: Sounds like the guy in the article is looking for a hug and a payout.

It's funny how the guy claims he's totally innocent (aren't they all) and was polite and cooperative, etc.  Yet they had the right to search him and, if he would have just cooperated, he would have been on his merry way a few minutes later.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/t/terry-stop/

But it sounds like he couldn't keep his mouth shut, made comments about a dead cop, spit near a cop's feet and generally acted like an asshole.

Also interesting how the cops salaries had to be mentioned in the article.  I think they forgot something.


Anderson has worked for the department since July 2008 and earns $46,016 a year. Ivancevich was hired as an officer in March 2010 and makes $43,789 a year. Both officers pay approximately $15,000 a year to Tukatz in exchange for Internet White Knighting and fellatio.

 
2013-01-29 12:05:33 PM
I don't see what everyone is so upset about. The man was clearly guilty of not being a law enforcement officer. He needed to be taught a lesson.


Slaves2Darkness: clane: and yall keep voting Democrat....

Awww, whose a baby troll, you are. Such a cute little troll maybe someday you will be all grown up and able to derail a thread, make people hate you, and be a big troll, but I doubt it.


It's like watching one of those nature videos of a fledgling bird taking it's first few uncertain flights.
 
2013-01-29 12:12:28 PM

Virtue: AverageAmericanGuy: people should try not to be assholes, especially around cops

Is it illegal to be an asshole around a cop?......if not the the police are corrupt.


That's the question, and the answer is no. Unless you're a cop. Then being one is part of the job description.
 
2013-01-29 12:13:45 PM

clane: and yall keep voting Democrat....


Oh hush. This is obviously Bush's fault. Give Obama some time to turn this ship around, FFS.
 
2013-01-29 12:14:41 PM
I love the new "Government can do no wrong" attitude that many display. It's not like Uncle Sam ever trampled on the rights of slaves, black, minorities, gays, protesters, or anyone else that "had it coming". These are the same people who like to pretend America doesn't have the highest incarceration rate on Earth.
 
2013-01-29 12:20:43 PM
Police are a good example of what Democrats want in government, how they want us governed.
 
2013-01-29 12:20:53 PM

Slaves2Darkness: clane: and yall keep voting Democrat....

Awww, whose a baby troll, you are. Such a cute little troll maybe someday you will be all grown up and able to derail a thread, make people hate you, and be a big troll, but I doubt it.


clane:
Oh goodness you hurl an insult then call anyone that disagrees with you a troll how original... see my profile for an explanation as to why you do that.

www.craigread.com
 
2013-01-29 12:25:24 PM

Thunderpipes: Police are a good example of what Democrats want in government, how they want us governed.


Wow, Democrats sure do sound like really bad people! It sounds like they're almost as bad as liberals!
 
2013-01-29 12:30:33 PM

tukatz: Sounds like the guy in the article is looking for a hug and a payout.

It's funny how the guy claims he's totally innocent (aren't they all) and was polite and cooperative, etc.  Yet they had the right to search him and, if he would have just cooperated, he would have been on his merry way a few minutes later.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/t/terry-stop/

But it sounds like he couldn't keep his mouth shut, made comments about a dead cop, spit near a cop's feet and generally acted like an asshole.

Also interesting how the cops salaries had to be mentioned in the article.  I think they forgot something.


Anderson has worked for the department since July 2008 and earns $46,016 a year. Ivancevich was hired as an officer in March 2010 and makes $43,789 a year. Stoiber hasn't worked a real job in a while, but supplements his late-night gaming career by breaking into houses in the neighborhood.


I know I'm feeding but...

From your link:
"When a police officer observes unusual conduct which leads him or her to reasonably suspect criminal activity may be occurring and that the persons with whom he is dealing may be armed and presently dangerous, the officer might approach and briefly detain the subjects for the purpose of conducting a limited investigation.

Sitting outside at night and explaining that you can't sleep and were chatting about baseball on the phone....good LORD, I'm glad the cops arrested him.
 
2013-01-29 12:33:08 PM

tukatz: Sounds like the guy in the article is looking for a hug and a payout.

It's funny how the guy claims he's totally innocent (aren't they all) and was polite and cooperative, etc.  Yet they had the right to search him and, if he would have just cooperated, he would have been on his merry way a few minutes later.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/t/terry-stop/

But it sounds like he couldn't keep his mouth shut, made comments about a dead cop, spit near a cop's feet and generally acted like an asshole.

Also interesting how the cops salaries had to be mentioned in the article.  I think they forgot something.


Anderson has worked for the department since July 2008 and earns $46,016 a year. Ivancevich was hired as an officer in March 2010 and makes $43,789 a year. Stoiber hasn't worked a real job in a while, but supplements his late-night gaming career by breaking into houses in the neighborhood.


Please explain which part of the story meets the: "based upon "reasonable suspicion" that a person may have been engaged in criminal activity" portion of the law. Or does existing in public after 10:00 p.m. automatically make you a criminal?
 
2013-01-29 12:36:45 PM
According to the law, a law enforcement officer can stop and search someone who committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime.

So the cops are psychic now?
 
2013-01-29 12:45:25 PM

Dirtybird971: According to the law, a law enforcement officer can stop and search someone who committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime.

So the cops are psychic now?


Reporters are lawyers now? That's not the criteria for a Terry Stop. The reporter just stuck that in their because he had a half hour to write a 500 word article, and he half remembered that maybe somebody told him something like that once. The editor left it in there because he's stuck in a dead-end job working as an editor for a dying newspaper in a shiathole town, and the bottle of vodka he keeps in his bottom drawer makes it easy not to think too hard about any of it.
 
2013-01-29 12:51:32 PM

abhorrent1: If you have nothing to hide -let them pat you down and be on your way.


The fourth amendment says I don't have to. Unlike cops, I obey the law.
 
2013-01-29 12:56:42 PM

Sasquach: Sitting outside at night and explaining that you can't sleep and were chatting about baseball on the phone....good LORD, I'm glad the cops arrested him.


If some dillhole was walking back and forth down my street at 2:00 AM spitting his tobacco juice on lawns and blathering into his cell phone about baseball, it's my sincere hope that they tazer him first.
 
2013-01-29 12:59:11 PM

clane: Oh goodness you hurl an insult then call anyone that disagrees with you a troll how original... see my profile for an explanation as to why you do that.


Let's take a look at this posters (a known, proven liar) work in this thread.
About 5 post into the thread, which has nothing to do with politics, clane takes a big ol' threadshiat dropping this duce:

clane: and yall keep voting Democrat....


When called a troll, which is true, as proven by work in many threads, pulls the tired old "that's what you libs always call me" routine. If it walks like a duck...

Funny thing is, it's conservatives that lick the badge and allow the police more "power" at the expense of personal freedom.
 
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