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(This Is Bristol)   "Give me my porn back" - Bristol man takes police to court to get collection returned   (thisisbristol.co.uk) divider line 35
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2013-01-29 10:29:20 AM  
Bill Murray looks terrible.
 
2013-01-29 10:33:08 AM  
This man is a hero.

Too bad he will never get his property back.

The police: thugs and thieves who are above the law.
 
2013-01-29 10:35:00 AM  
Police are so used to taking whatever they want that one now has to sue them to reclaim their own private property. And if that handsome fellow in the photoimage had been the Mayor, Chief of Police or some other local character of note none of this would ever have happened to begin with.
 
2013-01-29 10:36:06 AM  
Porno Porno Porno!

/got nuthin'
 
2013-01-29 10:36:37 AM  
Keeping 888GB of pr0n on-hand (so to speak) seems a bit excessive. The good news is that we finally found someone that actually still pays for pr0n.
 
2013-01-29 10:39:08 AM  

The Angry Hand of God: Bill Murray looks terrible.


Done in one.
 
2013-01-29 10:39:21 AM  
Holy crap. A TB of porn? That's like a total of almost 3 GB of actually-watched footage!
 
2013-01-29 10:41:20 AM  
Digital evidence recovery officer Scott Eggins told the court: "Deletion in a computer sense is a very complicated matter. There is no such thing as a permanent deletion on computers unfortunately - or fortunately. There is no way of permanently deleting it, short of putting it through a shredder."

sounds like he mainly wants the data back. In a computer sense it's a very easy matter to give it to him on a clean drive.
 
2013-01-29 10:46:11 AM  
Uncool? Uncool is trying to give an honest man a big box of porn! For the last time, I don't want to watch "School of Cock" with you!
 
2013-01-29 10:50:05 AM  
The police said, due to the amount of legal pornography Mr Gerrard possessed, it could take days to transfer it to an external hard drive, which could cost up to £100 for a drive, plus police time.

Huh? Days to transfer? What are they using, cassettes? It's under a TB. You spend maybe 5 minutes getting rid of the kiddy stuff, then move the rest of it to a single external drive. Even if you are moving it from multiple computers it's may be 30 minutes of actual work. You don't have to actually sit there and watch the progress bar as it's transferring.
 
2013-01-29 10:51:35 AM  
Hideki Matsui lives in Bristol?
 
2013-01-29 10:53:52 AM  

Jenna Tellya: Digital evidence recovery officer Scott Eggins told the court: "Deletion in a computer sense is a very complicated matter. There is no such thing as a permanent deletion on computers unfortunately - or fortunately. There is no way of permanently deleting it, short of putting it through a shredder."

sounds like he mainly wants the data back. In a computer sense it's a very easy matter to give it to him on a clean drive.


I'm guessing that Mr. Eggins also finds tying his shoes to be a very complicated matter.

Overwrite the blocks in question 10 times with checkerboards and random 0's and 1's. If it's good enough for DoD...
 
2013-01-29 10:55:31 AM  
Take your porn with you."

"I'm not taking it."

"Take you're box-o-porn."

"It is my gift to you."

"No. I don't want it. David, it's not... Just-just..."

"Andy, for the last time, I don't want your giant box of pornography!"
"No, no, no! Come on, man. So uncool."

"Uncool? Uncool is trying to give an honest man a big box of porn, Andy!"
 
2013-01-29 10:55:37 AM  
Don't the cops have a halfway decent computer guy?

The 11 images are where they can't be accessed by normal means. That leaves only two reasonable explanations: browser cache or deleted files.

Clear the browser cache, wipe the free space on the drive. Job done.
 
2013-01-29 10:58:22 AM  
FTA:  Digital evidence recovery officer Scott Eggins told the court: "Deletion in a computer sense is a very complicated matter. There is no such thing as a permanent deletion on computers unfortunately - or fortunately. There is no way of permanently deleting it, short of putting it through a shredder.

No. No, Mr. Eggins, it is not. DOD wipe the partition and I personally guarantee that no one (for the near future at least) can recover those illegal images.
 
2013-01-29 11:03:55 AM  
Here's the part that bothered me - why did they seize his computers in the first place?
 
2013-01-29 11:04:04 AM  

daveUSMC: Holy crap. A TB of porn? That's like a total of almost 3 GB of actually-watched footage!


Man usually I can't get through like 30-40 pictures in a slideshow before i'm toppling over the edge.... That's like what... 1-2Mb in data? :)
 
2013-01-29 11:04:40 AM  

Loren: Don't the cops have a halfway decent computer guy?

The 11 images are where they can't be accessed by normal means. That leaves only two reasonable explanations: browser cache or deleted files.

Clear the browser cache, wipe the free space on the drive. Job done.


BUT THE CHILDERN!!11
/and it'll fetch a few hundred bucks at a police auction.
 
2013-01-29 11:07:17 AM  
Best quote of the day by far. Son might be a Farker.

Mr Gerrard, who has been married four times and is estranged from his son, added: "The good thing about having a computer is you can switch it off when you've finished - you can't switch off a wife."
 
2013-01-29 11:27:52 AM  
I sooooo wanted that to read Bristol Palin.
 
2013-01-29 11:57:21 AM  
Mr Gerrard, who has been married four times and is estranged from his son, added: "The good thing about having a computer is you can switch it off when you've finished - you can't switch off a wife."
 
2013-01-29 12:07:06 PM  

Grave_Girl: The Angry Hand of God: Bill Murray looks terrible.

Done in one.


Not only thaaht, aaht's Bill Murray waath a west counties accaant.
 
2013-01-29 12:13:42 PM  
No word on what caused the original suspicion? There's no evidence related to what caused the cops to confiscate his property to begin with? All there is at the hearing is "Well, we went through 1TB of porn and found 11 images, all of which were probably accidentally downloaded"? Were the police monitoring his downloading habits and decided to go on a fishing expedition based on the sheer volume?

Something isn't adding up.
 
2013-01-29 12:38:09 PM  

Jenna Tellya: Digital evidence recovery officer Scott Eggins told the court: "Deletion in a computer sense is a very complicated matter. There is no such thing as a permanent deletion on computers unfortunately - or fortunately. There is no way of permanently deleting it, short of putting it through a shredder."

sounds like he mainly wants the data back. In a computer sense it's a very easy matter to give it to him on a clean drive.


No, this "Digital evidence recovery officer Scott Eggins" is full of shiat. You can absolutely wipe data without the ability for it to ever be recovered - and it's not even hard or complicated. There are, in fact, simple, free, open-source tools which will allow you do do exactly that within seconds for the amount of files he's talking about.

One of my home media servers is an old Intel "Entry Server" and to install a new HDD you have to wipe the drive to all 0's before it can be integrated into the RAID array. To do so I got a couple pieces of software which will also do something like 36-pass overwrite/deletions which will render whatever it's overwriting utterly and irrevocably deleted.

There are exactly two explanations for this expert saying this:
1. He knows better and he's lying.
2. He doesn't know any better - in which case he has absolutely no business filling that position.
 
2013-01-29 12:41:19 PM  
The good thing about having a computer is you can switch it off when you've finished - you can't switch off a wife.

Amen, brother!

Deletion in a computer sense is a very complicated matter. There is no such thing as a permanent deletion on computers unfortunately - or fortunately. There is no way of permanently deleting it, short of putting it through a shredder.

Bull. farking. shiat.

The police said, due to the amount of legal pornography Mr Gerrard possessed, it could take days to transfer it to an external hard drive, which could cost up to £100 for a drive, plus police time.

See my previous comment.

Data can be securely deleted from a hard drive. A computer technician who says otherwise is either lying or incompetent. Or both. Microsoft even provides a basic tool (sdelete) for free that will securely erase data by overwriting unallocated space. There are commercial tools that will delete data to US Department of Defense standards. A similar feature is built into MacOS.

As for copying the legal stuff of his drive to a new drive, what's £100 compared to the cost of fighting the return of his property? And it doesn't take days to copy less than a terabyte of data, even over USB2. Even if it did, nobody needs to sit there watching the damn transfer. Select his smut directories, click copy, select the destination drive, click paste. It shouldn't take a competent tech more than a few minutes to find his shiat and start the copy process. Then they can walk away and do something else while the copy takes place.

Hey cops, listen up. When you try to pass off such obvious lies as fact, it causes rational people to question the veracity of every single word that comes out of your mouths.

Give the guy back his porn. Look at him. He needs it!
 
2013-01-29 01:05:38 PM  
Glad to see tech geeks are not needed in this thread but seriously do the police and the guy realize they can just pull the drive out of the box and give him back the equipment. Also what kind of slow a$$ serial port process are they using that they stated it would take days to copy to an external drive. I can do a couple of TB backup using USB in about 3 hours.
 
2013-01-29 01:22:02 PM  
The cops just installed a new 65" HD TV in the breakroom. Then, nearly a TB of pr0n falls into their laps. Yeah, buddy...you ain't gettin' that shiat back...
 
2013-01-29 02:21:55 PM  
Nearly 1TB of porn? What's his Fark handle?
 
2013-01-29 03:12:44 PM  

redmid17: FTA:  Digital evidence recovery officer Scott Eggins told the court: "Deletion in a computer sense is a very complicated matter. There is no such thing as a permanent deletion on computers unfortunately - or fortunately. There is no way of permanently deleting it, short of putting it through a shredder.

No. No, Mr. Eggins, it is not. DOD wipe the partition and I personally guarantee that no one (for the near future at least) can recover those illegal images.


Just what I was thinking: BCWipe the files and they're effectively gone. There's tons of freeware products out there to do the same thing.

Delete the files using a secure wipe, delete and wipe the free space, done.
 
2013-01-29 04:02:02 PM  
they had been downloaded automatically to parts of the computers Mr Gerrard could not have accessed without specialist tools or techniques.

Could someone explain WTF part of the computer this might be? There aren't any parts of my computer that store data that I can't access.

/sounds to me like the police "experts" are full of shiat
 
2013-01-29 05:10:39 PM  

wambu: Could someone explain WTF part of the computer this might be? There aren't any parts of my computer that store data that I can't access.


Given that the article is full of WTFs anyways, it could be the browser cache - which often saves it's files in a hidden directory, sometimes even without extensions.

Without a fairly high amount of technical knowledge and/or a utility, your average user isn't even going to know about it.

/sounds to me like the police "experts" are full of shiat

'Can't permanently delete it or transfer it in an expeditious fashion' sealed that for me.
 
2013-01-29 05:41:30 PM  
The idea that you can't permanently delete specific files is laughable. If you just drag it to the recycle bin, sure it can easily be recovered. If you use a file scrubber no one will recover it, I don't care what software they have.

They just couldn't be bothered. I hope they at least pull the hard drives and return this pervert's computers.
 
2013-01-29 07:34:55 PM  

TonyDanza: The police said, due to the amount of legal pornography Mr Gerrard possessed, it could take days to transfer it to an external hard drive, which could cost up to £100 for a drive, plus police time.

Huh? Days to transfer? What are they using, cassettes? It's under a TB. You spend maybe 5 minutes getting rid of the kiddy stuff, then move the rest of it to a single external drive. Even if you are moving it from multiple computers it's may be 30 minutes of actual work. You don't have to actually sit there and watch the progress bar as it's transferring.


It isn't the progress bar they'ld be watchin'
 
2013-01-29 08:02:06 PM  
Cops lying in court. What is this world coming to?
 
2013-01-30 02:10:35 AM  

drunk_flowers: I sooooo wanted that to read Bristol Palin.


This.

I almost clicked on the story, but after re-reading it decided it wasn't worth it anymore.
 
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