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(Some Guy)   New study highlights damaging effects of deep-fried foods on the prostate, especially when the oil hits the anus   (fhcrc.org) divider line 47
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2013-01-28 11:59:50 PM
You would think the extra fat in the colon would reduce friction and...um...yeah, I've said too much again, haven't I?
 
2013-01-29 12:27:00 AM
You mean I'm not supposed to shove fried chicken up my ass?
 
2013-01-29 03:45:52 AM
Oh no. Not the oil!!
 
2013-01-29 03:46:02 AM
Ouch.
 
2013-01-29 03:47:33 AM
Avoid fast food, mkay?
 
2013-01-29 03:49:24 AM
Kewl! (because this means that a follow-up will be posted next week saying that fried foods actually give you a super-prostate and awesome stud powers....)
 
2013-01-29 03:55:07 AM
Hotlinks and gravy doth prostate too much.
 
2013-01-29 03:56:04 AM
Great.... now they are trying to scare people into eating healthy.
 
2013-01-29 03:59:22 AM
If there was no unhealthy food or ways of consuming it in this world there would be a lot of bored fear mongering types.

/used to have a vegan friend send me articles like this on a daily basis trying to convert me
//no longer a friend and my spam folder goes NOM NOM NOM to his emails he still sends me
 
2013-01-29 04:20:22 AM
This study may show a link between fried foods and prostate health, but it overlooks a critical factor that all these studies seem to forget.

Fried foods are delicious. If you can make tofu taste like fried chicken. If you can make lentils taste like french fries. If you can make alfalfa taste like pork dumplings. Then we'll talk.

Until then, my prostate can suffer.
 
2013-01-29 04:26:30 AM
www.fhcrc.org

Mmmmmm Prostate
 
2013-01-29 04:27:23 AM
found that men who reported eating French fries, fried chicken, fried fish and/or doughnuts at least once a week were at an increased risk of prostate cancer as compared to men who said they ate such foods less than once a month

yeah, but they probably die of boredom and not eating what they like and want.
 
2013-01-29 04:30:46 AM
an increased risk of prostate cancer that ranged from 30 to 37 percent.

Uh, yeah, I think I'll ignore this.
 
2013-01-29 04:33:43 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: This study may show a link between fried foods and prostate health, but it overlooks a critical factor that all these studies seem to forget.

Fried foods are delicious. If you can make tofu taste like fried chicken. If you can make lentils taste like french fries. If you can make alfalfa taste like pork dumplings. Then we'll talk.

Until then, my prostate can suffer.


Go to a good Buddhist resturant - you will be surprised at what flavours they can 'fake'.

And fried tofu is delicious too mmmmm fried tofu (of course this cooking method removes most of the benefits of 'healthy' eating.)
 
2013-01-29 04:38:58 AM

fusillade762: You mean I'm not supposed to shove fried chicken up my ass?


Like an Internet article would stop you.
 
2013-01-29 04:55:00 AM

Langdon_777: AverageAmericanGuy: This study may show a link between fried foods and prostate health, but it overlooks a critical factor that all these studies seem to forget.

Fried foods are delicious. If you can make tofu taste like fried chicken. If you can make lentils taste like french fries. If you can make alfalfa taste like pork dumplings. Then we'll talk.

Until then, my prostate can suffer.

Go to a good Buddhist resturant - you will be surprised at what flavours they can 'fake'.

And fried tofu is delicious too mmmmm fried tofu (of course this cooking method removes most of the benefits of 'healthy' eating.)


What about fried Buddhist?
 
2013-01-29 04:57:28 AM
We can't overcome our natural desire for foods that are, in general and in large quantities, harmful because they are supposed to be scarce. Welcome to the top of the (fast)food chain.
 
2013-01-29 05:08:02 AM
...published their findings...in The Prostate.

I am apparently still 13 years old, as I found that hilarious.
 
2013-01-29 05:14:50 AM
It's always about your asses, isn't it men.

/DRTFA : )
 
2013-01-29 05:22:00 AM
You know, I always wanted to try Poison Ivy tea but thanks to Fark, I know better.
 
2013-01-29 05:38:53 AM
All "experts" quoted are women.

Go make me a sammich, biatch.
 
2013-01-29 05:47:45 AM

SwiftFox: an increased risk of prostate cancer that ranged from 30 to 37 percent.

Uh, yeah, I think I'll ignore this.


And of course, that's NOT an increase of 30 to 37 percentage points of risk, which is what the mathematically ignorant/easily scared public thinks when they read these articles. That is, if the base risk is, say, 25%, you're not increasing your chances to 55%-62%, but rather to 32.5%-34.25% (.30*.25+.25 to .37*.25+.25). So we're actually talking about percentages of percentages.
 
2013-01-29 05:53:21 AM
That's amore?
 
2013-01-29 06:03:33 AM

Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: You mean I'm not supposed to shove fried chicken up my ass?

Like an Internet article would stop you.


No, but it might slow me down.
 
2013-01-29 06:45:59 AM

Langdon_777: AverageAmericanGuy: This study may show a link between fried foods and prostate health, but it overlooks a critical factor that all these studies seem to forget.

Fried foods are delicious. If you can make tofu taste like fried chicken. If you can make lentils taste like french fries. If you can make alfalfa taste like pork dumplings. Then we'll talk.

Until then, my prostate can suffer.

Go to a good Buddhist resturant - you will be surprised at what flavours they can 'fake'.

And fried tofu is delicious too mmmmm fried tofu (of course this cooking method removes most of the benefits of 'healthy' eating.)


Please tell us more. This is similar to advising one to try the steak at a Protestant restaurant or saying the cuisine is divine at a Church of Latter Day Saints Restaurant. Here in the States people usually refer to a restaurant by its type - fast food, take-out, bar foods etcetera but most commonly by the ethnicity: Chinese, French, Italian blah blah blah. How does one identify a locate a Buddhist Restaurant? As a big fat American slob that eats everything I just gots to know.
 
2013-01-29 06:56:40 AM

KrispyKritter: Langdon_777: AverageAmericanGuy: This study may show a link between fried foods and prostate health, but it overlooks a critical factor that all these studies seem to forget.

Fried foods are delicious. If you can make tofu taste like fried chicken. If you can make lentils taste like french fries. If you can make alfalfa taste like pork dumplings. Then we'll talk.

Until then, my prostate can suffer.

Go to a good Buddhist resturant - you will be surprised at what flavours they can 'fake'.

And fried tofu is delicious too mmmmm fried tofu (of course this cooking method removes most of the benefits of 'healthy' eating.)

Please tell us more. This is similar to advising one to try the steak at a Protestant restaurant or saying the cuisine is divine at a Church of Latter Day Saints Restaurant. Here in the States people usually refer to a restaurant by its type - fast food, take-out, bar foods etcetera but most commonly by the ethnicity: Chinese, French, Italian blah blah blah. How does one identify a locate a Buddhist Restaurant? As a big fat American slob that eats everything I just gots to know.


My local is called "Vege & Loving It" (run by a local Buddist group), I didn't know the true extent of the connection until I ate their 'fake' salt & pepper squid for the first time. So I suggest look for something with 'Vege' in the name ;)
 
2013-01-29 06:59:14 AM

KrispyKritter: How does one identify a locate a Buddhist Restaurant? As a big fat American slob that eats everything I just gots to know.


You can typically find them selling hotdogs on the corner. But you have to ask them to make you one with everything.
 
2013-01-29 07:16:07 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: This study may show a link between fried foods and prostate health, but it overlooks a critical factor that all these studies seem to forget.

Fried foods are delicious. If you can make tofu taste like fried chicken. If you can make lentils taste like french fries. If you can make alfalfa taste like pork dumplings. Then we'll talk.

Until then, my prostate can suffer.


And it's not like I'm too worried about the resale value of my prostate when I die.
 
2013-01-29 07:28:16 AM
TFA: men who reported eating French fries, fried chicken, fried fish and/or doughnuts at least once a week were at an increased risk of prostate cancer as compared to men who said they ate such foods less than once a month.

That's it? Did the study stratify the samples to account for other, highly correlated lifestyle factors?

News flash: People who eat fried foods at least once a week tend to do a lot of other things that are bad for health at least once a week. Unless you account for that you can blame anything on anything, because the raw data will be there. I could publish a study showing a very high correlation between watching TV and cardiovascular disease but the causal link will be tenuous.
 
2013-01-29 07:37:36 AM

fusillade762: You mean I'm not supposed to shove fried chicken up my ass?


You can do it, but the worst part is this:

blog.comedycentral.co.uk
 
2013-01-29 07:39:59 AM

BlackMtnMan: All "experts" quoted are women.

Go make me a sammich some french fries, biatch.


FTFY.
 
2013-01-29 07:40:31 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: SwiftFox: an increased risk of prostate cancer that ranged from 30 to 37 percent.

Uh, yeah, I think I'll ignore this.

And of course, that's NOT an increase of 30 to 37 percentage points of risk, which is what the mathematically ignorant/easily scared public thinks when they read these articles. That is, if the base risk is, say, 25%, you're not increasing your chances to 55%-62%, but rather to 32.5%-34.25% (.30*.25+.25 to .37*.25+.25). So we're actually talking about percentages of percentages.


You are correct, but a 37% increase in risk is still a big increase. Just from eating fried food once a week; that's a lot of risk for one meal a week.

/had prostate cancer
//don't recall if I ate fried food once a week prior to it or not
///now I can eat all the fried food I want! Yay! Oh...wait.
 
2013-01-29 07:42:02 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: SwiftFox: an increased risk of prostate cancer that ranged from 30 to 37 percent.

Uh, yeah, I think I'll ignore this.

And of course, that's NOT an increase of 30 to 37 percentage points of risk, which is what the mathematically ignorant/easily scared public thinks when they read these articles. That is, if the base risk is, say, 25%, you're not increasing your chances to 55%-62%, but rather to 32.5%-34.25% (.30*.25+.25 to .37*.25+.25). So we're actually talking about percentages of percentages.


I was told there would be no math
 
2013-01-29 08:32:43 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: KrispyKritter: How does one identify a locate a Buddhist Restaurant? As a big fat American slob that eats everything I just gots to know.

You can typically find them selling hotdogs on the corner. But you have to ask them to make you one with everything.


1-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2013-01-29 08:43:51 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Fried foods are delicious. If you can make tofu taste like fried chicken. If you can make lentils taste like french fries. If you can make alfalfa taste like pork dumplings. Then we'll talk.


I can make shiatakke mushrooms taste like bacon.
Slather in garlic olive oil and bake them.
 
2013-01-29 08:44:53 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: SwiftFox: an increased risk of prostate cancer that ranged from 30 to 37 percent.

Uh, yeah, I think I'll ignore this.

And of course, that's NOT an increase of 30 to 37 percentage points of risk, which is what the mathematically ignorant/easily scared public thinks when they read these articles. That is, if the base risk is, say, 25%, you're not increasing your chances to 55%-62%, but rather to 32.5%-34.25% (.30*.25+.25 to .37*.25+.25). So we're actually talking about percentages of percentages.


You are correct: it's the difference between absolute risk and relative risk. However, that 30-37% increase in relative risk might be more profoundly important in some populations. In one study, for example, the absolute risk for prostate cancer in a broader population of older men was approximately 13%, but those with known genetic risk alleles and/or family history had a 41-52% absolute risk (55-year-old men, risk of PCa diagnosis within the next 20 years). So, those that might have a high absolute risk should especially pay attention to this research...
[source]
 
2013-01-29 09:21:07 AM

SpdrJay: Kewl! (because this means that a follow-up will be posted next week saying that fried foods actually give you a super-prostate and awesome stud powers....)


Likely true, with KFC as the sponsor of the study. We get a lot of the same thing from the incredible edible egg industry after very negative press on egg consumption.
 
2013-01-29 09:21:19 AM
So according to the study, I have to eat deep-fried food less than once a month to be in the healthy group? Fark you, I'll risk the prostate cancer.
 
2013-01-29 09:25:01 AM
Well I guess people won't eat to live, rather they'll live to eat.
 
2013-01-29 09:27:38 AM

mbillips: So according to the study, I have to eat deep-fried food less than once a month to be in the healthy group? Fark you, I'll risk the prostate cancer.


Thanks, that's why my healthcare costs so much.
 
2013-01-29 09:32:24 AM

fusillade762: You mean I'm not supposed to shove fried chicken up my ass?


UFFIA??
 
2013-01-29 09:34:57 AM
I'd like a study to answer this question:

If people walked five miles a day at a brisk pace, would it matter what they ate?
 
2013-01-29 09:36:36 AM
So that was a french fry - not a fluff ball causing my last `side-shooter'?
 
2013-01-29 10:19:54 AM
In a related story, the AMA releases a report showing massive shortages of Urologists on the Gulf Coast
 
2013-01-29 12:19:27 PM

dragonchild: News flash: People who eat fried foods at least once a week tend to do a lot of other things that are bad for health at least once a week. Unless you account for that you can blame anything on anything, because the raw data will be there. I could publish a study showing a very high correlation between watching TV and cardiovascular disease but the causal link will be tenuous.


Holy sh*t, I can't believe the statistics dudes missed something that obvious. Your reasoning could revolutionize modern mathematics if you manage to get it to the right people. I understand perfectly what you're saying - it's almost like a hidden factor is "confounding" the link that is being established. You need to talk with some local professors and show them how this works. Fields medals have been granted for less...
 
2013-01-29 04:20:37 PM
I have the weirdest boner right now.
 
2013-01-29 06:40:34 PM

vudukungfu: AverageAmericanGuy: Fried foods are delicious. If you can make tofu taste like fried chicken. If you can make lentils taste like french fries. If you can make alfalfa taste like pork dumplings. Then we'll talk.

I can make shiatakke mushrooms taste like bacon.
Slather in garlic olive oil and bake them.


I hear they can make pig rectum taste like calamari.
 
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