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2013-01-28 07:10:32 PM  

Kome: hej: kbronsito: So Obama is "silencing" conservative media by saying bad things about them. And yet... I'm reading about it on conservative media. Whoaaaa!

Fox News doesn't consider themselves to be a media outlet.

Neither does anyone intelligent.


Propaganda is a KIND of medium.
 
2013-01-28 07:11:10 PM  
wow.  the more I ponder this story, the more I think it's a trap Limbaugh can't avoid.  He *has* to pitch a fit about it.  he'll feel as if he's got no choice but to go after the GOP and enforce obedience to 'the american cause'.  which is all kinds of bad - bad for the GOP, bad for Limbaugh, bad for the GOP media machine.  they'll be forced to turn inward on themselves and make sure that rigid, unyielding obedience is the order of the day.  no dissent will be permitted, not even a little bit.

And while they're doing that to themselves....Obama is free to do whatever he'd like.
 
2013-01-28 07:11:14 PM  

Corvus: That's not single payer. It's not even close to single payer. You understand the "single payer" part means there is only ONE payer not many.

No being able to buy private healthcare plans and go to private doctors is not "government ran healthcare".


Um.

From wiki.

Germany has a universal multi-payer health care system with two main types of health insurance: "Law-enforced health insurance" (Gesetzliche Krankenversicherung) known as sickness funds and "Private" (Private Krankenversicherung).[1][2][3]
Compulsory insurance applies to those below a set income level and is provided through private non-profit "sickness funds" at common rates for all members, and is paid for with joint employer-employee contributions.

All salaried employees must have public health insurance. Only public officers, self-employed people and employees with a large income, above c. €50,000.00 (adjusted yearly), may join the private system.

In the Public system the premium is

set by the Federal Ministry of Health based on a fixed set of covered services as described in the German Social Law (Sozialgesetzbuch - SGB), which limits those services to "economically viable, sufficient, necessary and meaningful services"

not dependent on an individual's health condition, but a percentage (currently 15.5%) of salaried income.
includes family members of any family members, or "registered member" ( Familienversicherung - i.e., husband/wife and children are free)

a "pay as you go" system - there is no saving for an individual's higher health costs with rising age or existing conditions."

So, there's a law that makes entry into the government health care plan mandatory unless you meet certain criteria and choose to opt-out and seek more expensive private coverage. That sounds an awful lot like a government run health care system.

Corvus: The belief that they all have single payer or government run healthcare is a myth.


You mentioned 'single payer' OR 'government run healthcare' clearly as distinct and separate things since you didn't include commas to indicate that 'government run healthcare' was a nomitive clause of single-payer. Which means that your characterization of Germany not having 'government run healthcare' is clearly incorrect. They do not have single-payer, but they do have a mandatory public health insurance system.

If you misspoke in regards to your characterization or if you'd like to amend your description please feel free. I stand by the notion that not only does Germany clearly have a government run healthcare system, it is also clearly far closer to 'socialized medicine' than "Obamacare".
 
2013-01-28 07:11:23 PM  
img836.imageshack.us

The Tea Party embrace of death!
 
2013-01-28 07:12:21 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: HighOnCraic: Noam Chimpsky: yeegrek: So Obama is a sissy, limp-wristed lie-brul bully Chicago gangsta thug who trembles before America's enemies? Do I have that right?

Y'know, maybe it'd be easier to take conservative complaints more seriously if there was just the tiniest bit of consistency to them.

Non sequitur. No one said he's a Chicago gangsta before America's enemies. All his friends are sworn enemies of America.

Today, he's too weak towards our enemies.

Non sequitur. Arnold wasn't "too weak" towards the British.


www3.pictures.zimbio.com

What a dirty traitor.
 
2013-01-28 07:12:38 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: HighOnCraic: Noam Chimpsky: yeegrek: So Obama is a sissy, limp-wristed lie-brul bully Chicago gangsta thug who trembles before America's enemies? Do I have that right?

Y'know, maybe it'd be easier to take conservative complaints more seriously if there was just the tiniest bit of consistency to them.

Non sequitur. No one said he's a Chicago gangsta before America's enemies. All his friends are sworn enemies of America.

Today, he's too weak towards our enemies.

Non sequitur. Arnold wasn't "too weak" towards the British.


Non sequitor. Arnold didn't kill an British leaders or bomb any British fortresses.
 
2013-01-28 07:13:03 PM  
These poor bastards couldn't logic their way out of the back seat, while engaged in a mind-meld with Mr. Spock.
 
2013-01-28 07:13:20 PM  

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 300x182]

"Sources Cited" in the unsigned anonymous "article"

1) Breitbart
2) Media Research Center (Newsbusters, funded by Scaife and Olin and Exxon)
3) The "Center For Media in Public Affairs" (funded primarily through right-wing foundations) run by Fox News contributor and former American Enterprise Institute hack Sammy Licter

===

That's some fancy "newswriting," Lou. Next time try signing your name and having at least one non-partisan source.


Came here to say something along these lines. They respond to an allegation of having a right-wing bias by getting refuting statements from other openly right-wing organizations, and none from any unaffiliated, independent sources. I'm going out on a limb here and assuming 99% of their readership won't notice this fact at all. "Fair and Balanced," folks!
 
2013-01-28 07:15:35 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Cletus C.: Weaver95: Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you but...it's true.  if a GOP congressthing steps outta line even a tiny little bit...fox news and the GOP media engine spins up and tries to destroy them.

[static01.mediaite.com image 320x210]

So when was the last time that Chris Matthews forced a Democratic politician to apologize to him?

Because Rush has done that plenty of times to Republicans. Even the Republican leaders, if you recall.


Michael Steele apologizing after taking some shots at Limbaugh? He was forced by Limbaugh to do that? Whatevah.
 
2013-01-28 07:16:24 PM  
Personally I hope Republicans are so insistent that they not meet the President halfway in any shape or form that they collectively fall on their swords rather than interact with him. That'll show that brown skinned Kenyan Socialist guy! Let's see him be bipartisan when there are no Republicans left!

But seriously, that would be a shame. When conservatives aren't being enormous douchebags they serve a constructive purpose in society as a counterpoint to progressives. Unfortunately, all of those sane conservatives are Democrats now, and the Republican party as a whole seems to be one tuck away from being Ann Coulter clones most of the time.
 
2013-01-28 07:19:26 PM  
Quote of Obama FTFA: "So I don't think the issue is whether or not there are people of goodwill in either party that want to get something done."

forums.kleientertainment.com

Either Obama is just playing nice for moderates/independents, or he is actually, literally, incapable of learning, like a rock or a plant.

Unfortunately, given his record of dealing with Republicans, I really can't tell which it is.
 
2013-01-28 07:20:40 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Noam Chimpsky: HighOnCraic: Noam Chimpsky: yeegrek: So Obama is a sissy, limp-wristed lie-brul bully Chicago gangsta thug who trembles before America's enemies? Do I have that right?

Y'know, maybe it'd be easier to take conservative complaints more seriously if there was just the tiniest bit of consistency to them.

Non sequitur. No one said he's a Chicago gangsta before America's enemies. All his friends are sworn enemies of America.

Today, he's too weak towards our enemies.

Non sequitur. Arnold wasn't "too weak" towards the British.

[www3.pictures.zimbio.com image 594x396]

What a dirty traitor.


blacksportsonline.com

And he was very brave when he stood up to The Gooch.
 
2013-01-28 07:24:22 PM  

Weaver95: And while they're doing that to themselves....Obama is free to do whatever he'd like.


if this were chess, right now I'd say Obama has two queens, a rook, and both bishops... while Limbaugh is left with nothing but a couple pawns and his king.
 
2013-01-28 07:25:18 PM  
i.imgur.com

I'll just leave this here. Even though I'm a registered Green -- its still quite enjoyable.
 
2013-01-28 07:25:41 PM  

Mrbogey: Obama doesn't want bipartisanship.


If he keeps it up he'll get punched in the face.
 
2013-01-28 07:26:29 PM  

Cletus C.: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Cletus C.: Weaver95: Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you but...it's true.  if a GOP congressthing steps outta line even a tiny little bit...fox news and the GOP media engine spins up and tries to destroy them.

[static01.mediaite.com image 320x210]

So when was the last time that Chris Matthews forced a Democratic politician to apologize to him?

Because Rush has done that plenty of times to Republicans. Even the Republican leaders, if you recall.

Michael Steele apologizing after taking some shots at Limbaugh? He was forced by Limbaugh to do that? Whatevah.


"[House Speaker John] Boehner comes out and says Rush's language was inappropriate. Using the salad fork for your entrée, that's inappropriate. Not this stuff," Will said. "And it was depressing because what it indicates is that the Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh. They want to bomb Iran, but they're afraid of Rush Limbaugh."

Link
/Of course, George Will is a well-known liberal who's biased against the Republican Party. . .
 
2013-01-28 07:26:43 PM  

The Name: Quote of Obama FTFA: "So I don't think the issue is whether or not there are people of goodwill in either party that want to get something done."

[forums.kleientertainment.com image 375x300]

Either Obama is just playing nice for moderates/independents, or he is actually, literally, incapable of learning, like a rock or a plant.

Unfortunately, given his record of dealing with Republicans, I really can't tell which it is.


What can you do? He's the president. He has to be nice, set a good example, and say the polite things in public, no matter how childish or petulant the opposition is. What he does behind the scenes is an entirely different matter.

To paraphrase another famous president, it's not how softly you speak, it's how big the stick you're carrying is.
 
2013-01-28 07:26:49 PM  

Corvus: That is not "government running all care and health insurance" which is the definition of government run health care.


I disagree with your definition of 'government run health care'. I feel that you're conflating 'single-payer' and 'government run'. Statutory insurance (tax withholding) accounts for ~%70 of outlays for health care expenses and public (government) funds make up another 12-15%. So %82-85 of all expenditures for health-care in Germany are either directly from the public health care system or are actually from subsidies paid by the government for people too poor to pay copays. The remaining 15% are paid by people for extra services not covered under the public plan, or by private health insurance plans.

So Germany DOES have government run health care. It's just not EXCLUSIVELY government run health care. Just mostly. Which, to be perfectly honest, I would prefer anyway. I don't think that insurance companies should be outlawed, or all health care service providers made government employees, but I think that a viable public option would keep the private companies honest. Or at least more honest than they are now.
 
2013-01-28 07:30:23 PM  

HighOnCraic: Noam Chimpsky: HighOnCraic: Noam Chimpsky: yeegrek: So Obama is a sissy, limp-wristed lie-brul bully Chicago gangsta thug who trembles before America's enemies? Do I have that right?

Y'know, maybe it'd be easier to take conservative complaints more seriously if there was just the tiniest bit of consistency to them.

Non sequitur. No one said he's a Chicago gangsta before America's enemies. All his friends are sworn enemies of America.

Today, he's too weak towards our enemies.

Non sequitur. Arnold wasn't "too weak" towards the British.

Non sequitor. Arnold didn't kill an British leaders or bomb any British fortresses.


On which date?...
 
2013-01-28 07:31:26 PM  
George Will: "They want to bomb Iran, but they're afraid of Rush Limbaugh."

And as the old saying goes:

"If Republicans can't stand up to Rush Limbaugh, how can Republicans sit down to poop?"

At least I think that's how the old saying goes.
 
2013-01-28 07:36:17 PM  

HighOnCraic: Cletus C.: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Cletus C.: Weaver95: Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you but...it's true.  if a GOP congressthing steps outta line even a tiny little bit...fox news and the GOP media engine spins up and tries to destroy them.

[static01.mediaite.com image 320x210]

So when was the last time that Chris Matthews forced a Democratic politician to apologize to him?

Because Rush has done that plenty of times to Republicans. Even the Republican leaders, if you recall.

Michael Steele apologizing after taking some shots at Limbaugh? He was forced by Limbaugh to do that? Whatevah.

"[House Speaker John] Boehner comes out and says Rush's language was inappropriate. Using the salad fork for your entrée, that's inappropriate. Not this stuff," Will said. "And it was depressing because what it indicates is that the Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh. They want to bomb Iran, but they're afraid of Rush Limbaugh."

Link
/Of course, George Will is a well-known liberal who's biased against the Republican Party. . .


Hey, we agree Republicans should not be bending to the will of talking head blowhards. Just like Democrats shouldn't be kowtowing to MSNBC, the NYT or Jon Stewart.

It doesn't help forge good working relationships to accuse them of doing so, which was my original point.
 
2013-01-28 07:40:24 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Corvus: Yeah Obama does pretty well for being an "empty suit".

I never said the man was an empty suit. He is a master at PR. He can stand there with the bloody knife in his hand and convince that the guy from across town did the stabbing. He can spend the first 30 minutes of a speech bad mouthing and name calling and spend the last 5 saying how we need to end the negativity and do the people's business. And he comes off looking like a saint. He is the human projector, his middle name should have been Sony.


I love when Republicans project their projection. It's so meta.

GAT_00: So 98% of your goals isn't enough?

98%? We go into a debt deal and find a why to spend more money?! That's not 98% How the hell can we have Obamacare and you say that we get 98% of what we want.


Ask John Boehner.
 
2013-01-28 07:42:42 PM  

Cletus C.: HighOnCraic: Cletus C.: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Cletus C.: Weaver95: Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you but...it's true.  if a GOP congressthing steps outta line even a tiny little bit...fox news and the GOP media engine spins up and tries to destroy them.

[static01.mediaite.com image 320x210]

So when was the last time that Chris Matthews forced a Democratic politician to apologize to him?

Because Rush has done that plenty of times to Republicans. Even the Republican leaders, if you recall.

Michael Steele apologizing after taking some shots at Limbaugh? He was forced by Limbaugh to do that? Whatevah.

"[House Speaker John] Boehner comes out and says Rush's language was inappropriate. Using the salad fork for your entrée, that's inappropriate. Not this stuff," Will said. "And it was depressing because what it indicates is that the Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh. They want to bomb Iran, but they're afraid of Rush Limbaugh."

Link
/Of course, George Will is a well-known liberal who's biased against the Republican Party. . .

Hey, we agree Republicans should not be bending to the will of talking head blowhards. Just like Democrats shouldn't be kowtowing to MSNBC, the NYT or Jon Stewart.

It doesn't help forge good working relationships to accuse them of doing so, which was my original point.


So, it was a good thing when George Will pointed out the Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh, but it was a bad thing when Obama pointed out the Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh.
 
2013-01-28 07:43:07 PM  

MSFT: Mrbogey: Obama doesn't want bipartisanship.

If he keeps it up he'll get punched in the face.


And the fifth time you've referenced a non-existent event.
 
2013-01-28 07:45:04 PM  
Now witness the power of this fully operational bully pulpit!
 
2013-01-28 07:46:03 PM  

Cletus C.: Hey, we agree Republicans should not be bending to the will of talking head blowhards. Just like Democrats shouldn't be kowtowing to MSNBC, the NYT or Jon Stewart.

It doesn't help forge good working relationships to accuse them of doing so, which was my original point.


Soooo... when did a Democrat kowtow to Chris Matthews?

/we're waaaaiiiting
 
2013-01-28 07:46:42 PM  
Cletus C.:
It doesn't help forge good working relationships to accuse them of doing so, which was my original point.

um...but it's the truth.
 
2013-01-28 07:46:59 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: HighOnCraic: Noam Chimpsky: HighOnCraic: Noam Chimpsky: yeegrek: So Obama is a sissy, limp-wristed lie-brul bully Chicago gangsta thug who trembles before America's enemies? Do I have that right?

Y'know, maybe it'd be easier to take conservative complaints more seriously if there was just the tiniest bit of consistency to them.

Non sequitur. No one said he's a Chicago gangsta before America's enemies. All his friends are sworn enemies of America.

Today, he's too weak towards our enemies.

Non sequitur. Arnold wasn't "too weak" towards the British.

Non sequitor. Arnold didn't kill an British leaders or bomb any British fortresses.

On which date?...


You're comparing Obama to Benedict Arnold; I'm pointing out that Obama has actually used violence against our enemies (leaders such as Osama bin Laden) and bombed their camps (their version of fortresses) with drone strikes. Did Benedict Arnold do stuff like that?
 
2013-01-28 07:47:28 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Cletus C.: Hey, we agree Republicans should not be bending to the will of talking head blowhards. Just like Democrats shouldn't be kowtowing to MSNBC, the NYT or Jon Stewart.

It doesn't help forge good working relationships to accuse them of doing so, which was my original point.

Soooo... when did a Democrat kowtow to Chris Matthews?

/we're waaaaiiiting


Don't. Its a threadshiat-and-run. Move on.
 
2013-01-28 07:47:56 PM  

Mrbogey: MSFT: Mrbogey: Obama doesn't want bipartisanship.

If he keeps it up he'll get punched in the face.

And the fifth time you've referenced a non-existent event.


What a non-existent event may look like to MrBogey. Link

/and this is the guy who keeps claiming that he never lies
 
2013-01-28 07:48:13 PM  
I'm over bipartisanship. I don't feel good when Democrats work with a racist, regional party that cares more about gay sex than poor people.
 
2013-01-28 07:48:26 PM  
You mean the way that the conservative media turned on Chris Christie for praising Obama's response to NJ in the wake of a FREAKING HURRICANE? No.. the fair and balanced crowd and fat oxy eating morans of the world would NEVER do that..
 
2013-01-28 07:50:25 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I never said the man was an empty suit. He is a master at PR. He can stand there with the bloody knife in his hand and convince that the guy from across town did the stabbing.


Well who ya gonna believe - Obama or your lyin' eyes?
 
2013-01-28 07:50:35 PM  

Cletus C.: HighOnCraic: Cletus C.: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Cletus C.: Weaver95: Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you but...it's true.  if a GOP congressthing steps outta line even a tiny little bit...fox news and the GOP media engine spins up and tries to destroy them.

[static01.mediaite.com image 320x210]

So when was the last time that Chris Matthews forced a Democratic politician to apologize to him?

Because Rush has done that plenty of times to Republicans. Even the Republican leaders, if you recall.

Michael Steele apologizing after taking some shots at Limbaugh? He was forced by Limbaugh to do that? Whatevah.

"[House Speaker John] Boehner comes out and says Rush's language was inappropriate. Using the salad fork for your entrée, that's inappropriate. Not this stuff," Will said. "And it was depressing because what it indicates is that the Republican leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh. They want to bomb Iran, but they're afraid of Rush Limbaugh."

Link
/Of course, George Will is a well-known liberal who's biased against the Republican Party. . .

Hey, we agree Republicans should not be bending to the will of talking head blowhards. Just like Democrats shouldn't be kowtowing to MSNBC, the NYT or Jon Stewart.

It doesn't help forge good working relationships to accuse them of doing so, which was my original point.


Democrats kowtowing to MSNBC, NYT or Jon Stewart?

You know, I'll just simply ask if you believe that any one man or organization wields as much influence over the loose coalition of Democrats and liberals like Rush or Hannity have. Even Beck's little cult wields more influence than Jon Stewart, in that I don't think Jon could really convince people of the crazy shiat that Beck does.

If you disagree, I'd love to hear why. I'm measuring "influence" by amount of followers * zeal. While a lot of liberals (among everyone else, but whatever) enjoy Jon Stewart, do you really believe he has the number of devout devotees like Rush?
 
2013-01-28 07:53:00 PM  
I have come to respect Obama, though i don't always agree with him.

Personally, I think everyone involved would be better off if we stopped letting shiat the government shouldn't be involved in get in the way of them doing the things they should be doing. I don't care who people marry, it's not a matter that the Government should even be deciding. I think a woman and her doctor should be the only two people (three, if you count the husband/boyfriend as part of it) people in on the decision to have an abortion. it's not mine to say whether it's right or wrong. And we sure as hell shouldn't be waging a War-in-name-only on drugs, Islam, or whatever the farktards in the middle east do.

While we're spending all this time and energy debating those points, and whether the earth is flat or round, health care in this country is shiatty, education is on its way down the crapper, poverty is on the rise, our military is busy policing the world, and we're spending billions propping up third world countries and buying off states in the middle east, our own citizens go hungry and screwed over by their own financial institutions.

Yeah, we're a real winner right now.
 
2013-01-28 07:53:04 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: I'm over bipartisanship. I don't feel good when Democrats work with a racist, regional party that cares more about gay sex than poor people.


To be fair, a lot of them have good reason to care a bunch about gay sex.  Probably more than sex with poor people.

/is it just me, or is this thread really getting random?
 
2013-01-28 07:53:17 PM  
HA HA GOP talking points.
 
2013-01-28 07:53:19 PM  
this reminds me of my so-called Libertarian relative who is constantly moving to the right. I dunno if he listens to Rush Limbaugh or what.

Last year we had a conversation that went like this:

"Obama is an asshole!"

"Why?"

"Because he wouldn't give out his birth certificate! It made [those birthers] look bad!"

"...."

So, it's Obama's fault when political opponents make fools out of themselves trying to attack him. Yes, yes, everything is Obama's fault, and those darn liberals.
 
2013-01-28 07:53:44 PM  
lol. Good one, Barack.
 
2013-01-28 07:54:08 PM  

SilentStrider: if this were chess, right now I'd say Obama has two queens, a rook, and both bishops... while Limbaugh is left with nothing but a couple pawns and his king.


Except Limbaugh isn't playing the game. He is the bookmaker taking bets on whether who is going to win, while trying to juice the odds. At the end of the day he doesn't give a flying fark who wins the game, so long as he gets those who have no farking clue what is going on to place bets, while he luxuriates on trips to the Dominican Republic, and laughs all the way to the bank.
 
2013-01-28 07:56:58 PM  

MisterMook: Personally I hope Republicans are so insistent that they not meet the President halfway in any shape or form that they collectively fall on their swords rather than interact with him.


They are already well on the way.Their willingness to nominate Tea party alternatives over shoo-in candidates has already cost at least multiple Senate Seats and a probable majority, and everything that goes with that. Probably be at least two more in the next cycle as well.
 
2013-01-28 08:04:58 PM  
"This country will run a lot better once everyone learns to STFU and do what I tell them to do."

Barack Obama: 2013
 
2013-01-28 08:09:01 PM  
Politicians criticizing the media: IOKIYAR
 
2013-01-28 08:09:27 PM  
I suggested in the last Fox News thread that their license be terminated, but since I was told that is not possible, perhaps it is time for the Democrats to sue FNC. At the very least, get them to change their slogan from "Fair and balanced" to "America's right choice."

/freedom of speech does not mean freedom to lie
 
2013-01-28 08:12:25 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Mrbogey: MSFT: Mrbogey: Obama doesn't want bipartisanship.

If he keeps it up he'll get punched in the face.

And the fifth time you've referenced a non-existent event.

What a non-existent event may look like to MrBogey. Link

/and this is the guy who keeps claiming that he never lies


I haven't lied. MSFT is just stalking me and lying about me threatening to punch him.

He made a lame argument and I beat him up over it. He needs to get over it.
 
2013-01-28 08:19:21 PM  
ITT: HOW DARE TAXBONGO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT US I AM SO MAD
 
2013-01-28 08:20:04 PM  
The proper point of view has to start from the position that "both sides are equally bad in every way". Deviating from that tenet of modern Americanism makes you an extremist. What Obama should have said was that bipartisanship would be more likely if both sides reduced the rhetoric and come together. Of course, this doesn't address the issue at all (namely, Republican obstructionism) but it sounds nice in sound bites.
 
2013-01-28 08:21:32 PM  
Republicans treat Obama about the same way Democrats treated Lincoln. Both presidents being on the right side of history, of course.
 
2013-01-28 08:22:16 PM  

chairmanoohmowmow: "This country will run a lot better once everyone learns to STFU and do what I tell them to do."

Barack Obama: 2013


Account created: 2013-01-24 19:55:50
 
2013-01-28 08:22:17 PM  

Electrify: I suggested in the last Fox News thread that their license be terminated, but since I was told that is not possible, perhaps it is time for the Democrats to sue FNC. At the very least, get them to change their slogan from "Fair and balanced" to "America's right choice."

/freedom of speech does not mean freedom to lie


Actually, you have the right to lie. You do not have the right to slander, libel or lie under oath, but straight up lying is A-OK. Granted most of their lies could fall under libel or slander, there is also the issue that they generally do so about public figures, which has a much higher bar. There are federal regulations via the FCC, but fox does not fall under them for the same reason their license cannot be terminated.
 
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