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2013-01-28 06:30:00 PM

GAT_00: The Stealth Hippopotamus: 98%? We go into a debt deal and find a why to spend more money?! That's not 98% How the hell can we have Obamacare and you say that we get 98% of what we want.

John Boehner: When you look at this final agreement [on the debt ceiling] that we came to with the White House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy.

This is what Republicans think ineffective negotiation looks like.  Apparently not getting exactly what you want is a failed negotiation.


But the remaining 2% consisted of making Sarah Palin the vice-president and giving RPGs to pre-schoolers!
 
2013-01-28 06:30:15 PM

Somacandra: "Sources Cited" in the unsigned anonymous "article"

1) Breitbart
2) Media Research Center (Newsbusters, funded by Scaife and Olin and Exxon)
3) The "Center For Media in Public Affairs" (funded primarily through right-wing foundations) run by Fox News contributor and former American Enterprise Institute hack Sammy Licter

===

That's some fancy "newswriting," Lou. Next time try signing your name and having at least one non-partisan source.


You know that the GOP's ideas can't survive outside an echo chamber.
 
2013-01-28 06:30:19 PM

yeegrek: So Obama is a sissy, limp-wristed lie-brul bully Chicago gangsta thug who trembles before America's enemies? Do I have that right?

Y'know, maybe it'd be easier to take conservative complaints more seriously if there was just the tiniest bit of consistency to them.


Non sequitur. No one said he's a Chicago gangsta before America's enemies. All his friends are sworn enemies of America.
 
2013-01-28 06:32:06 PM

Aexia: Philip Francis Queeg: Were you in a coma during the debt ceiling debacle?

I'm beginning to think many liberals were.

If you look back at Obama's dealings with Boehner et al in 2011-2012, you'll typically find that he makes a big show of allowing Boehner to publicly save face but has generally put the screws to him in the details.

In that debt ceiling "debacle", Obama got what he wanted for another year while getting Boehner to give him additional leverage (defense sequestration cuts) for the next fight while predominantly making "concessions" out of cuts that were already planned along with assorted budget tricks.

Boehner got 98% of what he wanted... in press coverage. The deal itself? He got rolled like a booze filled orange frosted donut.


The sequestration cuts hurt both sides pretty much equally. Obama got no movement on tax rates, and a cut to the credit rating of the US in the process. If that is really what Obama wanted a year before running for re-election, then he is a remarkably stupid man.
 
2013-01-28 06:34:51 PM
No one cries more than the bully when he gets called on his shiat.
 
2013-01-28 06:34:54 PM
How is saying "What you're doing is unproductive at best" attempting to silence anyone? Goddamn, what kind of panty-waste insecure child feels personally threatened by the slightest hint of criticism? Oh, right.
 
2013-01-28 06:36:22 PM
Actually, that would be a huge help. To republicans and democrats.
 
2013-01-28 06:36:37 PM
Obama's just trolling now...
 
2013-01-28 06:36:37 PM

Corvus: HighOnCraic: Most liberals wanted something closer to European-style socialized healthcare.

Many places in Europe have healthcare programs closer to "Obamacare" like Germany and Switzerland. The belief that they all have single payer or government run healthcare is a myth.


I can't honestly speak for Switzerland and don't feel like looking into it, but Germany does have 'government run healthcare'. They have a two part system with an overwhelming majority of the population availing themselves of the 'public option' while a small remainder opt for supplementary private coverage.

I actually think that Germany has about the best system for the US to move towards. It'd be really pretty easy. Expand medicare to cover everyone for basic coverage, continue to allow private plans as supplementary for anyone who wants to pay extra for additional services. Done and done.

Long story short, Germany has a plan much closer to 'socialized' than "Obamacare". Perhaps just a bad example?
 
2013-01-28 06:36:57 PM
"One of the biggest factors is going to be how the media shapes debates. If a Republican member of Congress is not punished on Fox News or by Rush Limbaugh for working with a Democrat on a bill of common interest, then you'll see more of them doing it," he said.

I hope Limbaugh (and his buddies) go ballistic over this statement.  I hope they go whole hog wild and lay down the law with GOP legislators...I want Limbaugh to CRUSH his legislative allies, force their heads down in abject submission...and I want the entire world to watch as he does it.  then when the inevitable backlash happens...I want Rush Limbaugh to say 'hey, i'm just an entertainer.'

this would please me greatly.
 
2013-01-28 06:37:10 PM
So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

Sounds like the same ol' divide and try to conquer again. Same Obama approach, slightly different language.
 
2013-01-28 06:37:37 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Did I miss some major cuts that bring us anywhere near a balanced budget?


Have the Republicans agreed to any tax increases?

(note: the fiscal cliff compromise is still considered by Norquist and Republicans as a 'tax cut,' since they waited for the Bush tax cuts to expire, then proceeded to 'cut taxes' for 99% of Americans)
 
2013-01-28 06:37:44 PM

Noam Chimpsky: No one said he's a Chicago gangsta before America's enemies. All his friends are sworn enemies of America.


i.imgur.com

One for the Birther.
 
2013-01-28 06:40:24 PM

GAT_00: The Stealth Hippopotamus: 98%? We go into a debt deal and find a why to spend more money?! That's not 98% How the hell can we have Obamacare and you say that we get 98% of what we want.

John Boehner: When you look at this final agreement [on the debt ceiling] that we came to with the White House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy.

This is what Republicans think ineffective negotiation looks like.  Apparently not getting exactly what you want is a failed negotiation.


No, they're just mad that the president doesn't also protect them from their own stupidity at this point.

"How could you agree to this bad idea that we put on the table? How dare you?!"
 
2013-01-28 06:42:55 PM

Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?


I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you but...it's true.  if a GOP congressthing steps outta line even a tiny little bit...fox news and the GOP media engine spins up and tries to destroy them.
 
2013-01-28 06:42:59 PM

Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?


It's bad to point out the truth?
 
2013-01-28 06:43:19 PM
Man, no one projects like a republican. So seamless nowadays. I do hand it to them, they are fooling quite a few people.
 
2013-01-28 06:43:28 PM
Read an article today that said Obama's walking a tightrope pushing his immigration agenda. They don't want to have him too closely associated with it or the GOP will reflexively oppose it. Of course then I had the evil thought "Well, why not just go ahead and slap Obama's name right on a package of common-sense reforms?" Then when the GOP does oppose it they look like immigrant-hating obstructionist asshats.
 
2013-01-28 06:44:22 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: GAT_00: John Boehner: When you look at this final agreement [on the debt ceiling] that we came to with the White House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy.

This is what Republicans think ineffective negotiation looks like. Apparently not getting exactly what you want is a failed negotiation.

And you wonder why I call the current Republican leadership lightweights.


and yet you support them on everything unequivocally.
 
2013-01-28 06:45:00 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: GAT_00: John Boehner: When you look at this final agreement [on the debt ceiling] that we came to with the White House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy.

This is what Republicans think ineffective negotiation looks like. Apparently not getting exactly what you want is a failed negotiation.

And you wonder why I call the current Republican leadership lightweights.


Because they only got 98% of what they wanted?
 
2013-01-28 06:45:34 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Corvus: Yeah Obama does pretty well for being an "empty suit".

I never said the man was an empty suit. He is a master at PR. He can stand there with the bloody knife in his hand and convince that the guy from across town did the stabbing. He can spend the first 30 minutes of a speech bad mouthing and name calling and spend the last 5 saying how we need to end the negativity and do the people's business. And he comes off looking like a saint. He is the human projector, his middle name should have been Sony.

GAT_00: So 98% of your goals isn't enough?

98%? We go into a debt deal and find a why to spend more money?! That's not 98% How the hell can we have Obamacare and you say that we get 98% of what we want.

This is not blaming Obama! He is getting what he wants, the blame falls completely on the Republicans. In fact this is praising Obama. He's a heavy weight and we are sending in bantamweight fighters.


"I really don't understand how bipartisanship is ever going to work when one of the parties is insane. Imagine trying to negotiate an agreement on dinner plans with your date, and you suggest Italian and she states her preference would be a meal of tire rims and anthrax. If you can figure out a way to split the difference there and find a meal you will both enjoy, you can probably figure out how bipartisanship is going to work the next few years."

John Cole
 
2013-01-28 06:45:57 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Obama is so SMART and POWERFUL that the poor helpless Republicans can't do shiat to stop them because they don't have a single person who isn't such a damn pussy who can even hope to stand up to him.


i2.cdn.turner.com

How could anyone? It's obvious the man is a goddamn ninja. You can't even SEE HIM here.
 
2013-01-28 06:47:00 PM

vernonFL: I don't think there is such a thing as "Conservative Media"

Fox News certainly isn't. NRO is a joke. But NRO is sane compared to Townhall, WND and American Thinker.

There was a time when it really was Liberals who were intellectually disnonest race-baiters. Now its the "Conservatives"


I don't remember such a time. Perhaps the Democrats were like that, but they were hardly liberal then.
 
2013-01-28 06:47:00 PM

Mrtraveler01: Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

It's bad to point out the truth?


The Republicans saying Obama is leading the country down a path to socialism? That sort of tunnel-vision truth?

No, leave those truths to the pundits and make honest efforts to pass legislation for the benefit of the country.
 
2013-01-28 06:47:32 PM

Weaver95: I hope Limbaugh (and his buddies) go ballistic over this statement.  I hope they go whole hog wild and lay down the law with GOP legislators...I want Limbaugh to CRUSH his legislative allies, force their heads down in abject submission...and I want the entire world to watch as he does it.


He kind of has to now doesn't he? If he doesn't attack every and all GOP members that talk to the president, it looks like he caved to the President.
 
2013-01-28 06:49:08 PM

Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

Sounds like the same ol' divide and try to conquer again. Same Obama approach, slightly different language.


The reality, of course, is that Republicans are not at all at the bidding of right-wing media figures like Rush, and they are perfectly free to criticize him--he's just an entertainer, after all.
 
2013-01-28 06:49:16 PM

Mrtraveler01: Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

It's bad to point out the truth?


If it's against Republicans it is!
 
2013-01-28 06:49:22 PM

Cletus C.: The Republicans saying Obama is leading the country down a path to socialism? That sort of tunnel-vision truth?

No, leave those truths to the pundits and make honest efforts to pass legislation for the benefit of the country.


It's not easy when the party you have to be bipartisan with openly admits their number one goal is to make sure you don't get re-elected. Not help the country, not improve the economy, make sure Obama doesn't get re-elected.
 
2013-01-28 06:49:43 PM

Weaver95: Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you but...it's true.  if a GOP congressthing steps outta line even a tiny little bit...fox news and the GOP media engine spins up and tries to destroy them.


static01.mediaite.com
 
2013-01-28 06:49:56 PM

Weaver95: Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you but...it's true.  if a GOP congressthing steps outta line even a tiny little bit...fox news and the GOP media engine spins up and tries to destroy them.


This. It's not a negotiating tactic or headgames or anything. It's a statement of fact.
 
2013-01-28 06:49:57 PM

impaler: Weaver95: I hope Limbaugh (and his buddies) go ballistic over this statement.  I hope they go whole hog wild and lay down the law with GOP legislators...I want Limbaugh to CRUSH his legislative allies, force their heads down in abject submission...and I want the entire world to watch as he does it.

He kind of has to now doesn't he? If he doesn't attack every and all GOP members that talk to the president, it looks like he caved to the President.


yup.  Rush *has* to ramp up his rhetoric, he HAS to lean on his GOP buddies.  if he backs down one iota, it'll look like he's caved to the President's demands.  the more I think about this, the more brilliant a move I think it is...
 
2013-01-28 06:50:04 PM
Lame duck! Lame duck! Quack, quack! Look at that lame duck! I bet he even eats fancy grass like a duck! What a mighty quack! Look at those fluffy, magnificent feathers, smooth rippling beak, the sinuous lines of the...*dabs at forehead with handkerchief* BENGHAZI!!
 
2013-01-28 06:50:14 PM

Dinjiin: vernonFL: I don't think there is such a thing as "Conservative Media"

The Economist is one of the few conservative rags remaining that hasn't yet gone through the rabbit hole, but it is a bit of a lone wolf these days.

The larger issue is that "conservative media" has essentially transformed into "conservative propaganda".  Bias in the news is nothing new.  Editorials about journalistic integrity have been making the pages for a few centuries now.  But it appears that things have gotten worse over the past few decades, especially at the national level.  More pages and airtime are being spent on single-sided commentary.  Self-criticism is almost non-existent.  Fringe positions are given center stage because they are edgy and provocative.  The tone has taken an incredibly us-vs-them view.


FTA: What he's saying is the media is not liberal enough

No, he's saying that the conservative media is not liberal enough.  You can move towards the center yet still remain a right-leaning publication.  There are societal benefits to having more centralist publications.  But instead, these guys hear (or say that they hear) that Obama wants an all-liberal media, which is a distortion of the truth.  It riles them up and makes them want to turn to the right even farther.

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xynix: Conservative media and even it's leader Murdock don't give two shiats about anything they talk about.

[images60.fotki.com image 350x360]


Max, I'm so glad you've came to me. I've been through it all myself you see. Your reality is already half video hallucination. If you're not careful, it will become total hallucination. You'll have to learn to live in a very strange new world... I had a brain tumour and I had visions. I believe the visions cause the tumour and not the reverse. I can feel the visions coalsce and become flesh. Uncontrollable flesh. But when they removed the tumour, it was called Videodrome Fox News.
 
2013-01-28 06:51:19 PM

fusillade762: Read an article today that said Obama's walking a tightrope pushing his immigration agenda. They don't want to have him too closely associated with it or the GOP will reflexively oppose it. Of course then I had the evil thought "Well, why not just go ahead and slap Obama's name right on a package of common-sense reforms?" Then when the GOP does oppose it they look like immigrant-hating obstructionist asshats.


He's not really walking a tight-rope though.

Anything that has a chance of getting signed will be tossed by the Tea Party in the House the moment Obama shows any support of it.

These are people that can turn on a dime the moment Obama comes out for something they once endorsed.

Obama could say "Ok, we'll build a wall along the border", and the Tea Party would oppose it on grounds that Obama was using it as a giveaway to "construction union thugs" and "walls also keep people in".
 
2013-01-28 06:51:50 PM

kasmel: I can't honestly speak for Switzerland and don't feel like looking into it, but Germany does have 'government run healthcare'. They have a two part system with an overwhelming majority of the population availing themselves of the 'public option' while a small remainder opt for supplementary private coverage.

I actually think that Germany has about the best system for the US to move towards. It'd be really pretty easy. Expand medicare to cover everyone for basic coverage, continue to allow private plans as supplementary for anyone who wants to pay extra for additional services. Done and done.

Long story short, Germany has a plan much closer to 'socialized' than "Obamacare". Perhaps just a bad example?


That's not single payer. It's not even close to single payer. You understand the "single payer" part means there is only ONE payer not many.

No being able to buy private healthcare plans and go to private doctors is not "government ran healthcare".
 
2013-01-28 06:52:50 PM

lennavan: Cletus C.: The Republicans saying Obama is leading the country down a path to socialism? That sort of tunnel-vision truth?

No, leave those truths to the pundits and make honest efforts to pass legislation for the benefit of the country.

It's not easy when the party you have to be bipartisan with openly admits their number one goal is to make sure you don't get re-elected. Not help the country, not improve the economy, make sure Obama doesn't get re-elected.


Uh, sure. That didn't work out so well for them so we should move on, no? Plus, stated or not, the party out of power always makes it their goal, No. 1 or not, to take back the presidency. So much was made of that it would have made Limbaugh proud, were the parties switched.
 
2013-01-28 06:54:05 PM

Cletus C.: [static01.mediaite.com image 320x210]


What about Chris Matthews? That guy loves whoever's in power at the moment. He loved Bush when he was in office and now has a thing for Obama. He's sexually attracted to the Presidency. Not the President. The Presidency.
 
2013-01-28 06:55:02 PM

Noam Chimpsky: yeegrek: So Obama is a sissy, limp-wristed lie-brul bully Chicago gangsta thug who trembles before America's enemies? Do I have that right?

Y'know, maybe it'd be easier to take conservative complaints more seriously if there was just the tiniest bit of consistency to them.

Non sequitur. No one said he's a Chicago gangsta before America's enemies. All his friends are sworn enemies of America.


Today, he's too weak towards our enemies. Tomorrow, it'll be back to, "LOL--president Peace-prize just personally wiped out another village with drone strikes, OMG, he ordered the death of an American citizen, why did he have to go and kill Osama without putting him on trial, and how come he hasn't brought the troops back from Afghanistan, suck it, libs!"
 
2013-01-28 06:55:38 PM

FlashHarry: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Here's their problem, right here
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The Republicans have sworn fealty to an imbecile

this guy and wayne la pierre.

between the two of them, they control the GOP.


Did you know that Grover is on the board of the NRA?
 
2013-01-28 06:55:52 PM

impaler: Weaver95: I hope Limbaugh (and his buddies) go ballistic over this statement.  I hope they go whole hog wild and lay down the law with GOP legislators...I want Limbaugh to CRUSH his legislative allies, force their heads down in abject submission...and I want the entire world to watch as he does it.

He kind of has to now doesn't he? If he doesn't attack every and all GOP members that talk to the president, it looks like he caved to the President.


I always suspected Rush was into abject submission....
 
2013-01-28 06:56:02 PM

Kome: How is saying "What you're doing is unproductive at best" attempting to silence anyone? Goddamn, what kind of panty-waist insecure child feels personally threatened by the slightest hint of criticism? Oh, right.


I've been assured on numerous occasions that the women's underwear issue is "strictly a comfort thing."
 
hej
2013-01-28 06:57:28 PM

kbronsito: So Obama is "silencing" conservative media by saying bad things about them. And yet... I'm reading about it on conservative media. Whoaaaa!


Fox News doesn't consider themselves to be a media outlet.
 
2013-01-28 06:57:47 PM

kasmel: Corvus: HighOnCraic: Most liberals wanted something closer to European-style socialized healthcare.

Many places in Europe have healthcare programs closer to "Obamacare" like Germany and Switzerland. The belief that they all have single payer or government run healthcare is a myth.

I can't honestly speak for Switzerland and don't feel like looking into it, but Germany does have 'government run healthcare'. They have a two part system with an overwhelming majority of the population availing themselves of the 'public option' while a small remainder opt for supplementary private coverage.

I actually think that Germany has about the best system for the US to move towards. It'd be really pretty easy. Expand medicare to cover everyone for basic coverage, continue to allow private plans as supplementary for anyone who wants to pay extra for additional services. Done and done.

Long story short, Germany has a plan much closer to 'socialized' than "Obamacare". Perhaps just a bad example?


Having private run insurance and medical is not "government run healthcare". Government run healthcare is like England has. Everyone through healthcare in England work for the government. i don't understand how you think private groups are "government run" or muliple groups are "single payer" they are not.


Germany has a universal multi-payer system with two main types of health insurance. Germans are offered three mandatory health benefits, which are co-financed by employer and employee: health insurance, accident insurance, and long-term care insurance.

There are two separate types of health insurance: public health insurance (Gesetzliche Krankenversicherung) and private insurance (Private Krankenversicherung). Both systems struggle with the increasing cost of medical treatment and the changing demography. About 87.5% of the persons with health insurance are members of the public system, while 12.5% are covered by private insurance (as of 2006).[14]


It's just Obamacare with the public option. That is not "government running all care and health insurance" which is the definition of government run health care.
 
2013-01-28 06:58:03 PM
You know, considering how tough the GOP likes to present themselves as, they sure are a big bunch of blubbering vaginas.
 
2013-01-28 07:02:21 PM

meat0918: fusillade762: Read an article today that said Obama's walking a tightrope pushing his immigration agenda. They don't want to have him too closely associated with it or the GOP will reflexively oppose it. Of course then I had the evil thought "Well, why not just go ahead and slap Obama's name right on a package of common-sense reforms?" Then when the GOP does oppose it they look like immigrant-hating obstructionist asshats.

He's not really walking a tight-rope though.

Anything that has a chance of getting signed will be tossed by the Tea Party in the House the moment Obama shows any support of it.

These are people that can turn on a dime the moment Obama comes out for something they once endorsed.

Obama could say "Ok, we'll build a wall along the border", and the Tea Party would oppose it on grounds that Obama was using it as a giveaway to "construction union thugs" and "walls also keep people in".


I've long thought Obama should come out in favor of oxygen just to watch all the Tea Party folks immediately put plastic bags over their heads.
 
2013-01-28 07:02:48 PM

hej: kbronsito: So Obama is "silencing" conservative media by saying bad things about them. And yet... I'm reading about it on conservative media. Whoaaaa!

Fox News doesn't consider themselves to be a media outlet.


Neither does anyone intelligent.
 
2013-01-28 07:04:31 PM

Nadie_AZ: So ... the beatings will continue?


I certainly hope so. They are extremely effective. At what, I don't exactly know.

I'll think of something.
 
2013-01-28 07:07:17 PM

Cletus C.: Weaver95: Cletus C.: So, in forging bipartisanship your first step should be to tell your counterpart they are weakly at the biding of those chuckleheads Hannity and Limbaugh?

I hate to have to be the one to point this out to you but...it's true.  if a GOP congressthing steps outta line even a tiny little bit...fox news and the GOP media engine spins up and tries to destroy them.

[static01.mediaite.com image 320x210]


So when was the last time that Chris Matthews forced a Democratic politician to apologize to him?

Because Rush has done that plenty of times to Republicans. Even the Republican leaders, if you recall.
 
2013-01-28 07:08:49 PM

HighOnCraic: Noam Chimpsky: yeegrek: So Obama is a sissy, limp-wristed lie-brul bully Chicago gangsta thug who trembles before America's enemies? Do I have that right?

Y'know, maybe it'd be easier to take conservative complaints more seriously if there was just the tiniest bit of consistency to them.

Non sequitur. No one said he's a Chicago gangsta before America's enemies. All his friends are sworn enemies of America.

Today, he's too weak towards our enemies.


Non sequitur. Arnold wasn't "too weak" towards the British.
 
2013-01-28 07:10:15 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Corvus: Yeah Obama does pretty well for being an "empty suit".

I never said the man was an empty suit. He is a master at PR. He can stand there with the bloody knife in his hand and convince that the guy from across town did the stabbing. He can spend the first 30 minutes of a speech bad mouthing and name calling and spend the last 5 saying how we need to end the negativity and do the people's business. And he comes off looking like a saint. He is the human projector, his middle name should have been Sony.

GAT_00: So 98% of your goals isn't enough?

98%? We go into a debt deal and find a why to spend more money?! That's not 98% How the hell can we have Obamacare and you say that we get 98% of what we want.

This is not blaming Obama! He is getting what he wants, the blame falls completely on the Republicans. In fact this is praising Obama. He's a heavy weight and we are sending in bantamweight fighters.


That's not actually how Obamacare works...
 
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