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2013-01-28 07:03:00 PM

globalwarmingpraiser: If you could buy new, the prices would drop precipitously. Ammo would be a killer though.


Well, just looking at the M240 Bravo, it's unit replacement cost for the USMC is 6,600 dollars, but I'm sure that's because they bought in bulk. I imagine it'd cost MUCH more for a civilian owner to buy,
 
2013-01-28 07:08:07 PM

BronyMedic: So, I'm happy to report that apparantly, you don't have to wait 10 days to get a pistol in Tennessee anymore.

I got my gun, I'm happy. It's a .40 S&W 99, the licensed American production version of the Walther P99. Only problem is the sights are faded, but I plan on replacing them with night sights for concealed carry.


I have (pretty much) the same gun. I have the QA without the double action. Shorter trigger pull. Shoots like a dream.
 
2013-01-28 07:10:05 PM

BronyMedic: globalwarmingpraiser: If you could buy new, the prices would drop precipitously. Ammo would be a killer though.

Well, just looking at the M240 Bravo, it's unit replacement cost for the USMC is 6,600 dollars, but I'm sure that's because they bought in bulk. I imagine it'd cost MUCH more for a civilian owner to buy,


I think there has been 1 transferable full-auto M240, and it went for 175k...
 
2013-01-28 07:15:32 PM
The important thing is that a bunch of people who may or may not have been legally allowed to buy guns were able to do so with the presumption of legality because there is no required checking of private sales conducted in cash on the sidewalk between anonymous people.

This proves gun laws don't work and therefore there should be no gun laws.
 
2013-01-28 07:22:37 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: The important thing is that a bunch of people who may or may not have been legally allowed to buy guns were able to do so with the presumption of legality because there is no required checking of private sales conducted in cash on the sidewalk between anonymous people.

This proves gun laws don't work and therefore there should be no gun laws.


GOOD NEWS! Law Enforcement agencies have their own special sets of gun laws, as do PMCs authorized by the US State Department and US DOJ.
 
2013-01-28 07:23:00 PM

Giltric: DeathCipris: Comment FTA sums it up pretty well.

"A spent launch tube does not classify as a weapon unless you plan on using it as a club."

No no no no no this sums up very well FTFA....

He added that the private sales of the missile launch tube and other weapons illustrate the need for comprehensive background checks


If they can't dazzle people with brilliance they baffle them with bullshiat.


I love that the police are complaining that people are doing the same thing they are-buying weapons without a background check.
 
2013-01-28 07:43:39 PM

pedrop357: I love that the police are complaining that people are doing the same thing they are-buying weapons without a background check.


You honestly don't see the difference between  A Law Enforcement Agencyoffering cash incentives to get unwanted weapons off the street from, ostensibly, gullible people, and a  random guy selling to another  random guy?

That's a stupid comment. And you should be ashamed for posting it.
 
2013-01-28 07:51:33 PM
Lyrics:

Here comes the helicopter -- second time today
Everybody scatters and hopes it goes away
How many kids they've murdered only God can say
If I had a rocket launcher...I'd make somebody pay

I don't believe in guarded borders and I don't believe in hate
I don't believe in generals or their stinking torture states
And when I talk with the survivors of things too sickening to relate
Bruce Cockburn

If I had a rocket launcher...I would retaliate

On the Rio Lacantun, one hundred thousand wait
To fall down from starvation -- or some less humane fate
Cry for guatemala, with a corpse in every gate
If I had a rocket launcher...I would not hesitate

I want to raise every voice -- at least I've got to try
Every time I think about it water rises to my eyes.
Situation desperate, echoes of the victims cry
If I had a rocket launcher...Some son of a biatch would die
 
2013-01-28 07:53:40 PM

BronyMedic: pedrop357: I love that the police are complaining that people are doing the same thing they are-buying weapons without a background check.

You honestly don't see the difference between  A Law Enforcement Agencyoffering cash incentives to get unwanted weapons off the street from, ostensibly, gullible people, and a  random guy selling to another  random guy?

That's a stupid comment. And you should be ashamed for posting it.


I like how you dress up the police version. You should be in PR.

In the end, the police were doing the same thing:buying guns from people, no questions asked, no forms, possibly no records at (at least until the 5 guns purchased make it to the police station for inspection.)
 
2013-01-28 07:56:55 PM

pedrop357: In the end, the police were doing the same thing:buying guns from people, no questions asked, no forms, possibly no records at (at least until the 5 guns purchased make it to the police station for inspection.)


ITS TRUE I TELL YOU! AND THE FLOURIDE IN OUR WATER IS FOR MIND CONTROL FROM THE EVIL REPTILE ALIENS!

www.fpif.org

Seriously. You sound INCREDIBLY stupid right now. What you're saying is, in a nutshell, that the police are using public tax money to run a buyback program, and then stealing the weapons they have to LOG IN to give out the cards before they make it back to the destruction area, without ANYONE noticing it? Despite the fact this has not happened ONCE in the last 20 years of Gun Buyback programs being used?
 
2013-01-28 08:17:57 PM

BronyMedic: GOOD NEWS! Law Enforcement agencies have their own special sets of gun laws, as do PMCs authorized by the US State Department and US DOJ.


I'm talking about the random people on the sidewalk buying guns from the random people on the sidewalk, not the people running the legitimate buyback program.

I don't fault you for being confused though because, well... Poe's Law and all that....
 
2013-01-28 08:21:25 PM
Sounds like a gun thrift shop.
 
2013-01-28 08:22:15 PM

BronyMedic: pedrop357: In the end, the police were doing the same thing:buying guns from people, no questions asked, no forms, possibly no records at (at least until the 5 guns purchased make it to the police station for inspection.)

ITS TRUE I TELL YOU! AND THE FLOURIDE IN OUR WATER IS FOR MIND CONTROL FROM THE EVIL REPTILE ALIENS!

[www.fpif.org image 800x600]

Seriously. You sound INCREDIBLY stupid right now. What you're saying is, in a nutshell, that the police are using public tax money to run a buyback program, and then stealing the weapons they have to LOG IN to give out the cards before they make it back to the destruction area, without ANYONE noticing it? Despite the fact this has not happened ONCE in the last 20 years of Gun Buyback programs being used?


You and I are mostly on the same page, but there is a actually a HUGE history of cops abusing gun buyback programs. Not as institutions, usually, but as individuals.
 
2013-01-28 08:24:19 PM

please: You and I are mostly on the same page, but there is a actually a HUGE history of cops abusing gun buyback programs. Not as institutions, usually, but as individuals.


Really? I wasn't even aware of this. Do you have a link to any news stories?
 
2013-01-28 08:48:45 PM

BronyMedic: pedrop357: In the end, the police were doing the same thing:buying guns from people, no questions asked, no forms, possibly no records at (at least until the 5 guns purchased make it to the police station for inspection.)

ITS TRUE I TELL YOU! AND THE FLOURIDE IN OUR WATER IS FOR MIND CONTROL FROM THE EVIL REPTILE ALIENS!

[www.fpif.org image 800x600]

Seriously. You sound INCREDIBLY stupid right now. What you're saying is, in a nutshell, that the police are using public tax money to run a buyback program, and then stealing the weapons they have to LOG IN to give out the cards before they make it back to the destruction area, without ANYONE noticing it? Despite the fact this has not happened ONCE in the last 20 years of Gun Buyback programs being used?


How do you not know about the joke? - "Police seized 10 pounds of marijuana, spokesman claims that the 7 pounds of marijuana has a street value of $7,000,000. Police logged in the 5 pounds of marijuana into evidence that night...."

I notice you glossed over the rest, about how basically the police are unlicensed persons paying money no questions asked for guns and not doing any background checks yet are complaining that other people are doing pretty much the same thing.
 
2013-01-28 08:55:33 PM
http://www.gazette.net/article/20130116/NEWS/130119403/1124/prince-geo rge-x2019-s-police-officer-found-guilty-of-gun-theft&template=gazette
 
2013-01-28 09:03:04 PM
http://manhattanda.org/press-release/nypd-officer-charged-stealing-fir earms-lockers-9th-precinct-station-house
 
2013-01-28 09:05:04 PM
http://clarendonhills.suntimes.com/news/11013415-418/former-clarendon- hills-cop-admits-taking-guns-from-turn-in-program.html
 
2013-01-28 09:18:51 PM

tallguywithglasseson: UberDave: Heh. Because nothing says home defense like a box of cheap ass sub-sonic Remington squirrel plinkers!

Well, there's about an 11 out of 10 chance you're going to be home invaded, so it's important consider things like ammo that's less likely to give you hearing damage when you're Rambo-ing your house.

But, then you'll need a lot of it because said home invaders are likely to proceed even after having seen your AR-15 and taken several rounds of said squirrel plinkers. Also they're on PCP. The home invaders, not the squirrels. So, 50 round drum makes the most sense, when you think about it.


Do you think we can get grant funding for that? Put a bunch of squirrels on PCP, convince them to invade homes, stand around in white lab coats with clip boards & say "hmm" authoritatively while watching!?
 
2013-01-28 09:19:03 PM

please: there is a actually a HUGE history of cops abusing gun buyback programs.


please: http://www.gazette.net/article/20130116/NEWS/130119403/1124/prince-ge o rge-x2019-s-police-officer-found-guilty-of-gun-theft&template=gazette


please: http://manhattanda.org/press-release/nypd-officer-charged-stealing-fi r earms-lockers-9th-precinct-station-house


please: http://clarendonhills.suntimes.com/news/11013415-418/former-clarendon - hills-cop-admits-taking-guns-from-turn-in-program.html


None of those are buybacks.
 
2013-01-28 09:20:24 PM

pedrop357: the police are unlicensed persons


Keep up the good work.
 
2013-01-28 09:33:42 PM

ajgeek: Eh, the device was deployed. It's the gun equivalent of finding a used condom.


I remember in the mid 90's it was common for dealers to sell expended AT4 tubes at a gunshows. The sights were broke off due to the radiation hazard from the glow in the dark paint but otherwise they were safe. Also saw a few M72 LAW and M47 Dragon expended tubes as well during that era. Now days people get all panicy or overractive if they see stuff like that.
 
2013-01-28 09:37:33 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: please: there is a actually a HUGE history of cops abusing gun buyback programs.

please: http://www.gazette.net/article/20130116/NEWS/130119403/1124/prince-ge o rge-x2019-s-police-officer-found-guilty-of-gun-theft&template=gazette

please: http://manhattanda.org/press-release/nypd-officer-charged-stealing-fi r earms-lockers-9th-precinct-station-house

please: http://clarendonhills.suntimes.com/news/11013415-418/former-clarendon - hills-cop-admits-taking-guns-from-turn-in-program.html

None of those are buybacks.


My eyes must be getting bad.
FTFA:
"A former Clarendon Hills police officer charged with stealing four guns collected during a turn-in program..."

and i thew in the others for the disingenuous "what??? cops wouldn't steal guns!!!"
 
2013-01-28 09:43:20 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: please: there is a actually a HUGE history of cops abusing gun buyback programs.

please: http://www.gazette.net/article/20130116/NEWS/130119403/1124/prince-ge o rge-x2019-s-police-officer-found-guilty-of-gun-theft&template=gazette

please: http://manhattanda.org/press-release/nypd-officer-charged-stealing-fi r earms-lockers-9th-precinct-station-house

please: http://clarendonhills.suntimes.com/news/11013415-418/former-clarendon - hills-cop-admits-taking-guns-from-turn-in-program.html

None of those are buybacks.


Well, the last one was a turn in program.  Same idea but no money changes hands.
 
2013-01-28 09:43:53 PM

Lsherm: BronyMedic: scubamage: FYI, any gauge shotgun with no choke will have even less penetration and a wider spread, needing even less aiming. Perfect for if you're in a "shiat, someone just broke in and it's 3:30am in the morning" moment. With no choke you only have an effective range of around 15m, and very little penetrating power through a wall

No choke, and rock salt rounds if you feel bad about killing someone. It won't kill them, but it'll make them wish they were dead.

That apparently really, really depends on the distance.

Is there anyone who even sells rock salt shells or is it the kind of thing you have to make on your own?  I've never actually met anyone who has used them.


I always thought it was "rock salt & pork fat" with a wad of salt-pork fat-back to help hold the salt together & give it weight? Maybe that's just a VT thing...
 
2013-01-28 09:45:26 PM
Cops love stealing guns almost as much as they love shooting dogs.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/news/34799

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2012/02/former_tarrant_police_officer.htm l

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/02/re d mond_officer_charged_with_stealing_guns.html

http://www.firearmstruth.com/2010/who-guards-the-guards-long-beach-of f icer-charged-with-stealing-guns

http://www.nwherald.com/2011/05/14/ex-ill-officer-charged-with-steali n g-guns/amfcsze/

http://article.wn.com/view/2011/05/13/Cop_Stole_Guns_From_TurnIn_Prog r am_In_Clarendon_Hills_Police/

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7594804

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/2/mistrial-pg-officer-ac c used-stealing-guns/
 
2013-01-28 09:45:39 PM

please: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: please: there is a actually a HUGE history of cops abusing gun buyback programs.

please: http://www.gazette.net/article/20130116/NEWS/130119403/1124/prince-ge o rge-x2019-s-police-officer-found-guilty-of-gun-theft&template=gazette

please: http://manhattanda.org/press-release/nypd-officer-charged-stealing-fi r earms-lockers-9th-precinct-station-house

please: http://clarendonhills.suntimes.com/news/11013415-418/former-clarendon - hills-cop-admits-taking-guns-from-turn-in-program.html

None of those are buybacks.

My eyes must be getting bad.
FTFA:
"A former Clarendon Hills police officer charged with stealing four guns collected during a turn-in program..."

and i thew in the others for the disingenuous "what??? cops wouldn't steal guns!!!"


So much for "HUGE history."
 
2013-01-28 09:46:54 PM

justtray: Plus, they all wear body armor. You may need hollow points.


A hollow point is about the worst kind of bullet to use against armor.  They're designed to deform and expand upon meeting resistance. When shooting armor you want the exact opposite.

justtray: You can replace the walls.


A hollow point won't do any more damage to a wall than anything else.  The hollow portion will just fill up with drywall or wood and refuse to expand.
 
2013-01-28 09:49:42 PM

Lsherm: Well, the last one was a turn in program. Same idea but no money changes hands.


Buyback, turn in, clip, magazine, Glock, AK-47, whatever, right?
 
2013-01-28 09:49:49 PM
A spent missile launch tube is about as useful as a baseball bat. farking rediculous. Army surplus stores sell these.

"Find out whether it was stolen from the military".. You gotta be kidding me.
 
2013-01-28 09:51:00 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lsherm: Well, the last one was a turn in program. Same idea but no money changes hands.

Buyback, turn in, clip, magazine, Glock, AK-47, whatever, right?


Oh for fark's sake - he hit the jackpot on one of his links.  Just admit it.
 
2013-01-28 09:52:38 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: please: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: please: there is a actually a HUGE history of cops abusing gun buyback programs.

please: http://www.gazette.net/article/20130116/NEWS/130119403/1124/prince-ge o rge-x2019-s-police-officer-found-guilty-of-gun-theft&template=gazette

please: http://manhattanda.org/press-release/nypd-officer-charged-stealing-fi r earms-lockers-9th-precinct-station-house

please: http://clarendonhills.suntimes.com/news/11013415-418/former-clarendon - hills-cop-admits-taking-guns-from-turn-in-program.html

None of those are buybacks.

My eyes must be getting bad.
FTFA:
"A former Clarendon Hills police officer charged with stealing four guns collected during a turn-in program..."

and i thew in the others for the disingenuous "what??? cops wouldn't steal guns!!!"

So much for "HUGE history."


That took me two minutes! I could post those all night. I only even made the comment because they just busted some Detroit cops here for it, heard about that on television and can't find any links to that one... Are you seriously suggesting that cops would not take advantage of off-the-books guns coming in? I know you're not that naive.
 
2013-01-28 09:52:52 PM

pedrop357: "Police seized 10 pounds of marijuana, spokesman claims that the 7 pounds of marijuana has a street value of $7,000,000. Police logged in the 5 pounds of marijuana into evidence that night...."


After the trial, the police will incinerate the 3 pounds of marijuana...
 
2013-01-28 09:55:08 PM
and ;ook

Lsherm: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lsherm: Well, the last one was a turn in program. Same idea but no money changes hands.

Buyback, turn in, clip, magazine, Glock, AK-47, whatever, right?

Oh for fark's sake - he hit the jackpot on one of his links.  Just admit it.


and look at my bigger list, filled with buy-back thievery.
How many makes it a problem? Name a number.

and these are CONVICTIONS. You know what it takes to convict a cop? Jesus, gun-grabbers really are as blind and fanatical as abortion opponents...
 
2013-01-28 09:58:35 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lsherm: Well, the last one was a turn in program. Same idea but no money changes hands.

Buyback, turn in, clip, magazine, Glock, AK-47, whatever, right?


*snort* - you know who you sound like, Republicans splitting hairs over "act of terror" vs "terrorist attack". Or are you one of those too?

When people take a dishonest, goal moving approach, it isn't even worth the time. And just remember that dishonesty when they start spouting off about it in the future.

I really have to remind myself these people don't represent all Democrats. They certainly are helping the Republicans though, that's for sure.
 
2013-01-28 10:07:06 PM
more "turn in" thefts:

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/18900159/hpd-officer-accused-of-st e aling-firearms-resigns-from-the-force

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2519&dat=19980911&id=k25eAAAAIB A J&sjid=kGENAAAAIBAJ&pg=1430,4242136

and more general police gun theivery:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2341019/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/22/AR200 6 082201305.html
 
2013-01-28 10:08:59 PM

jshine: Except that -- as commonly sold -- ammunition contains smokeless powder: an explosive.


Smokeless powder isn't actually explosive.  You can pour a pound of of it in your driveway and take a lighter to it.  It just fizzes a bit and burns up real fast.  There's no blast or concussion at all.  It's just a fast burning substance.

That property is also the reasoning being the old "yelling fire in a theater" laws people always bring up in 1st vs. 2nd amendment discussions.  Old film reels were made from nitrocellulose which is pretty close to smokeless powder.  Stuff burned awful fast, and putting it in close proximity to a hot incandescent bulb didn't always go well.  But, people were yelling "Fire!" when that happened and not "ZOMG MASSIVE EXPLOSION!" ... because it just burns.  It doesn't explode.
 
2013-01-28 10:09:03 PM
"In seeking safer streets, police departments across the country have increasingly asked citizens to turn in guns in exchange for cash or gift certificates, no questions asked. But in Newark, officials said today, the city's gun buy-back program earlier this year took an unfortunate twist: Fancy weapons were pocketed by some officers in the Police Department's East District."

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/10/nyregion/newark-police-accused-of-s t ealing-guns.html

Old but delicious.
 
2013-01-28 10:23:22 PM

jbuist: jshine: Except that -- as commonly sold -- ammunition contains smokeless powder: an explosive.

Smokeless powder isn't actually explosive.  You can pour a pound of of it in your driveway and take a lighter to it.  It just fizzes a bit and burns up real fast.  There's no blast or concussion at all.  It's just a fast burning substance.

That property is also the reasoning being the old "yelling fire in a theater" laws people always bring up in 1st vs. 2nd amendment discussions.  Old film reels were made from nitrocellulose which is pretty close to smokeless powder.  Stuff burned awful fast, and putting it in close proximity to a hot incandescent bulb didn't always go well.  But, people were yelling "Fire!" when that happened and not "ZOMG MASSIVE EXPLOSION!" ... because it just burns.  It doesn't explode.


Uh, every explosive outside of nuclear is just something that combusts really fast.  The Oklahoma city bomb was just ammonium nitrate fertilizer mixed with diesel and nitromethane.  The fertilizer just accelerated the combustion of two fuels that aren't particularly explosive themselves.

Put smokeless powder in a contained area and light it and it's explosive.  Put gasoline vapor under pressure, light it, and it's explosive.  Explosions are a combination of fast combustion and pressure.
 
2013-01-28 10:24:49 PM
I remember when they had a gun buy back on the Solomon Islands to "reduce gun violence". All it did was send the islanders out on a frenzy looking for all the rusty Japanese weapons lying around to convert to beer money.
 
2013-01-28 10:26:49 PM

please: and ;ook Lsherm: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lsherm: Well, the last one was a turn in program. Same idea but no money changes hands.

Buyback, turn in, clip, magazine, Glock, AK-47, whatever, right?

Oh for fark's sake - he hit the jackpot on one of his links.  Just admit it.

and look at my bigger list, filled with buy-back thievery.
How many makes it a problem? Name a number.

and these are CONVICTIONS. You know what it takes to convict a cop? Jesus, gun-grabbers really are as blind and fanatical as abortion opponents...


Listen carefully. YOU said:

please: there is a actually a HUGE history of cops abusing gun buyback programs


Then produced ONE link to a story from 1998 and have now changed your terms to "turn-in" thefts.

Again, YOU said:

please: there is a actually a HUGE history of cops abusing gun buyback programs



Could've just admitted your error and gone on about not trusting cops but now you have a HUGE history of looking like an idiot.
 
2013-01-28 10:51:39 PM
cops stealing guns from buybacks =/= cops stealing guns from "turn-ins"

Are you serious? I'm sure everyone will sleep tight knowing as long as it's a buy back and not a turn in, there's no way the cops will be stealing them instead of melting them down.

"Could've just admitted your error and gone on about not trusting cops but now you have a HUGE history of looking like an idiot."

yeah, I think I'm comfortable leaving that one up to the Farkies to decide.
I'm done here, have good night folks.
 
2013-01-28 10:57:37 PM

please: cops stealing guns from buybacks =/= cops stealing guns from "turn-ins"

Are you serious? I'm sure everyone will sleep tight knowing as long as it's a buy back and not a turn in, there's no way the cops will be stealing them instead of melting them down.

"Could've just admitted your error and gone on about not trusting cops but now you have a HUGE history of looking like an idiot."

yeah, I think I'm comfortable leaving that one up to the Farkies to decide.
I'm done here, have good night folks.


Google failed you, huh?
 
2013-01-28 11:08:24 PM

please: cops stealing guns from buybacks =/= cops stealing guns from "turn-ins"

Are you serious? I'm sure everyone will sleep tight knowing as long as it's a buy back and not a turn in, there's no way the cops will be stealing them instead of melting them down.

"Could've just admitted your error and gone on about not trusting cops but now you have a HUGE history of looking like an idiot."

yeah, I think I'm comfortable leaving that one up to the Farkies to decide.
I'm done here, have good night folks.


Nina's a troll. Ignore it and move on.
 
2013-01-28 11:29:32 PM

BronyMedic: pedrop357: In the end, the police were doing the same thing:buying guns from people, no questions asked, no forms, possibly no records at (at least until the 5 guns purchased make it to the police station for inspection.)

ITS TRUE I TELL YOU! AND THE FLOURIDE IN OUR WATER IS FOR MIND CONTROL FROM THE EVIL REPTILE ALIENS!

[www.fpif.org image 800x600]

Seriously. You sound INCREDIBLY stupid right now. What you're saying is, in a nutshell, that the police are using public tax money to run a buyback program, and then stealing the weapons they have to LOG IN to give out the cards before they make it back to the destruction area, without ANYONE noticing it? Despite the fact this has not happened ONCE in the last 20 years of Gun Buyback programs being used?


This is a lie. I know of a few officers with quite the collection. (But its ok, because guns in the hands of cops = good)
 
2013-01-28 11:56:45 PM
Huh, I was away for the evening and those guys never came back with their cites. I mean, I knew they pulled it out of their asses, but I expected something other than crickets. If asking for a cite shut people up this easily I think we gun-rights people should do it more often.
 
2013-01-29 12:21:33 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: please: there is a actually a HUGE history of cops abusing gun buyback programs.

please: http://www.gazette.net/article/20130116/NEWS/130119403/1124/prince-ge o rge-x2019-s-police-officer-found-guilty-of-gun-theft&template=gazette

please: http://manhattanda.org/press-release/nypd-officer-charged-stealing-fi r earms-lockers-9th-precinct-station-house

please: http://clarendonhills.suntimes.com/news/11013415-418/former-clarendon - hills-cop-admits-taking-guns-from-turn-in-program.html

None of those are buybacks.


please: Cops love stealing guns almost as much as they love shooting dogs.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/news/34799


http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2012/02/former_tarrant_police_officer.htm l

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/02/re d mond_officer_charged_with_stealing_guns.html


http://www.firearmstruth.com/2010/who-guards-the-guards-long-beach-of f icer-charged-with-stealing-guns

http://www.nwherald.com/2011/05/14/ex-ill-officer-charged-with-steali n g-guns/amfcsze/

http://article.wn.com/view/2011/05/13/Cop_Stole_Guns_From_TurnIn_Prog r am_In_Clarendon_Hills_Police/

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7594804

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/2/mistrial-pg-officer-ac c used-stealing-guns/


please: more "turn in" thefts:

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/18900159/hpd-officer-accused-of-st e aling-firearms-resigns-from-the-force

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2519&dat=19980911&id=k25eAAAAIB A J&sjid=kGENAAAAIBAJ&pg=1430,4242136

and more general police gun theivery:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2341019/


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/22/AR200 6 082201305.html


please: "In seeking safer streets, police departments across the country have increasingly asked citizens to turn in guns in exchange for cash or gift certificates, no questions asked. But in Newark, officials said today, the city's gun buy-back program earlier this year took an unfortunate twist: Fancy weapons were pocketed by some officers in the Police Department's East District."

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/10/nyregion/newark-police-accused-of-s t ealing-guns.html


Old but delicious.

 
2013-01-29 12:35:31 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Same thing happened in LA recently

/I think they were selling those things in surplus stores


Really? That doesn't seem like a good idea.
 
2013-01-29 12:54:29 AM

Bucky Katt: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Same thing happened in LA recently

/I think they were selling those things in surplus stores

Really? That doesn't seem like a good idea.


They're inert tubes. They can't be reloaded and are literally as useful as a length of painted PVC pipe
 
2013-01-29 12:54:41 AM
These programs are to discourage people from selling under the counter with no background checks.

Maybe they should just require each gun to be registered, with a fine for missing gun/false stolen police report. And a hefty fine or more for having an unregistered one.

We could make it free with a grace period to register your current firearms when the program was enacted, with the money they are spending on these buy-back programs...

Because most gun crimes are with these sort of under the counter/lost/stolen weapons.
 
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