kronicfeld: Obama's in-your-face liberalismCitation needed.
sigdiamond2000: Prediction: Romney Beats Obama, Handily
slayer199: Here are a couple tips asshats:1. Stop pissing off the Hispanic vote. Bush embraced them...calling for self-deportation is not the way to win elections. I know it's hard to believe GOPers, but a majority of Hispanics are Christians...and being anti-immigration is enough to sway them NOT to vote for you.
GAT_00: They won so strongly that Paul Ryan conceded on Meet The Press yesterday that if Republicans don't get what they want on the sequester and general budget cuts that they will not retaliate in the slightest and have no intention of shutting down the government to get what they want.
DamnYankees: You know what? You got me. I admit it.My farts are liberal.Ok? Can we move past it now? Good.
Nadie_AZ: Now this is gonna be a tougher sell. They can get knee jerk reactions from voters to help them by running on these, still. Ooga Booga works, when it comes to getting voters to vote for conservatives.
DamnYankees: GAT_00: They won so strongly that Paul Ryan conceded on Meet The Press yesterday that if Republicans don't get what they want on the sequester and general budget cuts that they will not retaliate in the slightest and have no intention of shutting down the government to get what they want.He said that?
slayer199: The GOP of 30 years ago was more socially liberal than today...but I saw there extremist agenda coming back in 1990 (when their social agenda was only pro-life). I swear the GOP thinks it's 1950. Sure, being socially extreme may get the 20% of the fundy base motivated to vote...but pissing off everyone else is going to lose them national elections. If the GOP even went to a more neutral POV on those issues, they'd still get a majority of the base.
slayer199: There's a way to beat the Democratic party...that is to promote smaller government, fiscal conservatism, and personal responsibility (rather than trying to tell people how to live their lives). I don't think the GOP is the party to do that.
namatad: umdo you remember the reagan era?yes, the GOP 80s was more centrist. in no way were the 80s GOP liberal.
AirForceVet: When was the last time Republicans had a surplus at the federal level? Anyone?
AirForceVet: Fiscal conservatism for Republicans is to cut taxes, increase miltary spending, give tax breaks to businesses, and leave the poor, the disabled, the elderly, the middle class behind. I really doubt they'll win on that logic, IMHO.As for smaller government and personal responsibility, the GOP track record on that never existed. When they're in power, they expand government and take care of those they know presonally. When was the last time Republicans had a surplus at the federal level? Anyone?
MaudlinMutantMollusk: AirForceVet: When was the last time Republicans had a surplus at the federal level? Anyone?I think it was the day Dubya took office/ended shortly thereafter
namatad: sigdiamond2000: Prediction: Romney Beats Obama, HandilyBottom line: Romney 315, Obama 223. That sounds high for Romney. But he could drop Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and still win the election. Fundamentals.HAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHHA HAHAH AHAHAH HAHAHAHAAI love that these tards aren't even close to reality
Lord Dimwit: kronicfeld: Obama's in-your-face liberalismCitation needed.As an actual liberal, I would be overjoyed if an actual liberal ran for President, much less won. Of course, the Right would absolutely lose their shiat if that were to happen.
meat0918: So, we still have a large section of the GOP in the Denial stage.Next comes Anger, doesn't it?
DamnYankees: Americans HATE smaller government in the specific. They hate it more than social conservatism. Sure, the catchphrase "small government" may poll well in the abstract, but when you actually go out and campaign for cutting specific things they hat eyou. American's really, really, really hate the concept of cutting medicare, medicaid and social security. There is literally only 1 facet of government Americans want to cut (rather than keep as is or increase spending on), and that one facet accounts for less than 1% of the federal budget. Anyone who ran on a platform of cutting social programs would get annihilated.
slayer199: I don't think that's part of the fiscal reality. We can't continue to run huge deficits or we're going to be Europe 2.0. That is the harsh fiscal reality that people will have to deal with and something that will resonate with voters.
slayer199: There's a way to beat the Democratic party...that is to promote smaller government, fiscal conservatism, and personal responsibility
kronicfeld: Obama's in-your-face liberalism
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