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(The New York Times)   The new message from Republicans: I am the kind and benevolent Oz. Pay no attention to that rich man behind the curtain   (nytimes.com) divider line 33
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2013-01-28 10:23:50 AM
Which brings me back to Mr. Jindal, who declared in his speech that "we are a populist party." No, you aren't. You're a party that holds a large proportion of Americans in contempt. And the public may have figured that out.

it's going to be very difficult for the GOP to fix their image problems.  Romney really drove home the 'rich uncaring elitist' image during his campaign and that'll take time to fix.  the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.
 
2013-01-28 11:09:49 AM

Weaver95: the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.


You almost made me hurt myself laughing, Weaver. The people yanking their chains aren't about to let something like that happen.
 
2013-01-28 11:11:41 AM

Weaver95: the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.


Well that got me laughing first thing in the morning.

From the comments:
If the Republicans are really the "party of the rich" why do so many Billionaires, Centanaries and Deca-aires vote and contribute to the Democrats?

It is cute that the people commenting confuse GOP voters with GOP policies.
The GOP voters are as diverse as the DEM voters when it comes to upper income.
The GOP policies favor the rich and punish the poor.
 
2013-01-28 11:13:09 AM

PacManDreaming: Weaver95: the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.

You almost made me hurt myself laughing, Weaver. The people yanking their chains aren't about to let something like that happen.


hey, desperate times call for desperate measures.  the GOP is trying to gerrymander themselves a permanent minority party status...but even that will only hold for so long.  the GOP leadership has to know that they are losing their grip on power...they might be desperate enough to actually throw the middle class a bone and hope that keeps them afloat long enough to regain some lost ground.
 
2013-01-28 11:15:47 AM
The rich have been playing class warfare for thousands of years.........we lost a long time ago. All they try to do is divide and conquer a population so there are no beheadings.
 
2013-01-28 11:20:21 AM
GOP: "Your wallet is gonna get raped!"
GOP Voter: "I don't like the soun..."
GOP: "Gun Control! Abortion! Gays!"
GOP Voter: "What??!?!??! WHAR!? WHAR?!? WHAR my pitchfork!?!?"
 
2013-01-28 11:20:40 AM

Weaver95: Which brings me back to Mr. Jindal, who declared in his speech that "we are a populist party." No, you aren't. You're a party that holds a large proportion of Americans in contempt. And the public may have figured that out.

it's going to be very difficult for the GOP to fix their image problems.  Romney really drove home the 'rich uncaring elitist' image during his campaign and that'll take time to fix.  the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.


The actual middle class? Or the people who make $600k a year that the Republicans consider middle class?
 
2013-01-28 11:20:48 AM

Weaver95: PacManDreaming: Weaver95: the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.

You almost made me hurt myself laughing, Weaver. The people yanking their chains aren't about to let something like that happen.

hey, desperate times call for desperate measures.  the GOP is trying to gerrymander themselves a permanent minority party status...but even that will only hold for so long.  the GOP leadership has to know that they are losing their grip on power...they might be desperate enough to actually throw the middle class a bone and hope that keeps them afloat long enough to regain some lost ground.


I predict they they will just keep trying to convince the middle class that they have been bad and need to be punished more. You know, "pay their fair share" while the rich pay less.
 
2013-01-28 11:22:20 AM

Weaver95: PacManDreaming: Weaver95: the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.

You almost made me hurt myself laughing, Weaver. The people yanking their chains aren't about to let something like that happen.

hey, desperate times call for desperate measures.  the GOP is trying to gerrymander themselves a permanent minority party status...but even that will only hold for so long.  the GOP leadership has to know that they are losing their grip on power...they might be desperate enough to actually throw the middle class a bone and hope that keeps them afloat long enough to regain some lost ground.


They won't do anything. When the best they can do is "I'm Bobby Jindal, let's not be so god damn stupid," they're f*cked.

Realization of a problem is nice, but I haven't caught a whiff of actual policies measures to not be the party of D'oh.
 
2013-01-28 11:22:43 AM

Weaver95: Which brings me back to Mr. Jindal, who declared in his speech that "we are a populist party." No, you aren't. You're a party that holds a large proportion of Americans in contempt. And the public may have figured that out.

it's going to be very difficult for the GOP to fix their image problems.  Romney really drove home the 'rich uncaring elitist' image during his campaign and that'll take time to fix.  the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.


pfft.  There was this guy named George, I think he was important somehow, but anyway, they forgot him pretty quick.  Rmoney is now only trotted out by Dems as a boogeyman, but that will wear off sooner rather than later.
 
2013-01-28 11:24:09 AM
 
2013-01-28 11:25:15 AM

Citrate1007: The rich have been playing class warfare for thousands of years.........we lost a long time ago. All they try to do is divide and conquer a population so there are no beheadings.


Yeah the moocher class is always trying to divide the country in half.
 
2013-01-28 11:26:37 AM

Citrate1007: The rich have been playing class warfare for thousands of years.........we lost a long time ago. All they try to do is divide and conquer a population so there are no beheadings.


sort of
the last couple of hundred years are filled with peasant revolts where the rich are killed.
Alas, we have returned to royalty in the US after a long period of equality.

"We cant arrest the people who commit banking crimes, might cause the bank to fail and people to lose jobs."
WTF

so yes, we have royalty today and we are starting to build a pretty big head of steam working against them.
 
2013-01-28 11:28:19 AM
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/I know, it's the same joke twice...
 
2013-01-28 11:28:49 AM
How about we issue everyone a god damn passport or make them really cheap. Once more than 30% of the country has seen the outside world, the GOP will be gone in a generation.
 
2013-01-28 11:29:00 AM

Weaver95: Which brings me back to Mr. Jindal, who declared in his speech that "we are a populist party." No, you aren't. You're a party that holds a large proportion of Americans in contempt. And the public may have figured that out.

it's going to be very difficult for the GOP to fix their image problems.  Romney really drove home the 'rich uncaring elitist' image during his campaign and that'll take time to fix.  the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.


You live in central PA, so you tell me: do the Pennsyltuckians see the GOP as a party of rich boobs, or do they still vote for them to spite those pinko libs?
 
2013-01-28 11:30:40 AM

verbaltoxin: Weaver95: Which brings me back to Mr. Jindal, who declared in his speech that "we are a populist party." No, you aren't. You're a party that holds a large proportion of Americans in contempt. And the public may have figured that out.

it's going to be very difficult for the GOP to fix their image problems.  Romney really drove home the 'rich uncaring elitist' image during his campaign and that'll take time to fix.  the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.

You live in central PA, so you tell me: do the Pennsyltuckians see the GOP as a party of rich boobs, or do they still vote for them to spite those pinko libs?


I used to live in Central PA, and it's the latter (except for, of course, that oasis called State College).
 
2013-01-28 11:33:33 AM

coeyagi: How about we issue everyone a god damn passport or make them really cheap. Once more than 30% of the country has seen the outside world, the GOP will be gone in a generation.


Why would we want to see any other country? All other countries are Communist dictatorships and third-world shiatholes. Fox News said so.
 
2013-01-28 11:34:20 AM

coeyagi: verbaltoxin: Weaver95: Which brings me back to Mr. Jindal, who declared in his speech that "we are a populist party." No, you aren't. You're a party that holds a large proportion of Americans in contempt. And the public may have figured that out.

it's going to be very difficult for the GOP to fix their image problems.  Romney really drove home the 'rich uncaring elitist' image during his campaign and that'll take time to fix.  the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.

You live in central PA, so you tell me: do the Pennsyltuckians see the GOP as a party of rich boobs, or do they still vote for them to spite those pinko libs?

I used to live in Central PA, and it's the latter (except for, of course, that oasis called State College).


My point exactly. Out in the Midwest the GOP isn't strictly an old man's party. Oh no, there are lots of half-wits out here with malformed views voting GOP with nary a thought to it.
 
2013-01-28 11:35:57 AM
graphics8.nytimes.com

You're gonna like the way you look. I guarantee it.
 
2013-01-28 11:38:10 AM
www.wearysloth.com

"... Everybody know the poor are always being farked over by the rich. Always have, always will."


It's going to take a lot more that bullshiat buzzwords and clever marketing to convince me the GOP gives/ever gave a flying fark about the Middle Class or the Poor. fark them and their farked up ideology. I suspect I'm not the only one who feels that way after the shameful display the GOP has put on since 2008...
 
2013-01-28 11:39:04 AM

verbaltoxin: Weaver95: Which brings me back to Mr. Jindal, who declared in his speech that "we are a populist party." No, you aren't. You're a party that holds a large proportion of Americans in contempt. And the public may have figured that out.

it's going to be very difficult for the GOP to fix their image problems.  Romney really drove home the 'rich uncaring elitist' image during his campaign and that'll take time to fix.  the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.

You live in central PA, so you tell me: do the Pennsyltuckians see the GOP as a party of rich boobs, or do they still vote for them to spite those pinko libs?


the Republicans here are something of an odd lot.  you've got a bunch of 'em who think Santorum was an ok guy and that he should have another shot at things.  But you've also got a bunch of Republicans who will cheer openly for whatever candidate the GOP puts up on the national stage, then quietly vote Democrat when they think nobody is watching.  then of course, there's the tea baggers...who are more loud than popular.  I think if anything holds the mid-state Republicans together, it's their religious views.  they'll vote with the Democrats on money/entitlement issues but they'll vote straight ticket Republican when it comes to social policy/religious issues.
 
2013-01-28 11:51:28 AM

Weaver95: Which brings me back to Mr. Jindal, who declared in his speech that "we are a populist party." No, you aren't. You're a party that holds a large proportion of Americans in contempt. And the public may have figured that out.

it's going to be very difficult for the GOP to fix their image problems.  Romney really drove home the 'rich uncaring elitist' image during his campaign and that'll take time to fix.  the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.


Considering the margin on Obama's victory - there isn't a a huge image problem. That's the intentional image and voters will vote to burn our constitutional freedoms when our president is blah.
 
2013-01-28 12:24:55 PM

keylock71: I suspect I'm not the only one who feels that way after the shameful display the GOP has put on since 2008...

1978. FTFY
 
2013-01-28 12:32:38 PM

Weaver95: Which brings me back to Mr. Jindal, who declared in his speech that "we are a populist party." No, you aren't. You're a party that holds a large proportion of Americans in contempt. And the public may have figured that out.

it's going to be very difficult for the GOP to fix their image problems.  Romney really drove home the 'rich uncaring elitist' image during his campaign and that'll take time to fix.  the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.


Their rich bosses won't let them. Without the financial support from cocks like the Kochs they are sunk.

Look like (once again) the GOP has painted themselves in to a corner. Caribou Barbie, Tea Party, Bible Thumpers, and now rich overlords.
 
2013-01-28 12:39:39 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Voters to the GOP: It's Not You-It's Your Ideas


But in order for the GOP to learn this lesson, the GOP would need to do a number of things:
1) commission a poll (a good poll, not a push poll or political poll) which asks unbiased specific questions.
(not do you hate obamacare, but things like "if you lost your job and had preexisting conditions, would it be ok for the insurance company to drop you") (meh)
2) read the results, trust and accept them
3) care enough about the results of the poll to even think about changing a position

none of these things will happen with the current GOP.
Take a quick look at the poll that the GOP put on the internet recently and you will see how NOT to do a public opinion poll.

The GOP asked questions catering to their current voters, rather than asking questions pointed at the people who voted against the GOP in 2012. Without talking to the people who didnt vote for you, you will never understand why they do like you.

/I love that the GOP is stuck in this rut.
 
2013-01-28 02:17:09 PM
Kinder and GentlerTM?

Compassionate ConservativesTM?

We've been here before.
 
2013-01-28 03:30:11 PM
I read the headline as "Orz" at first. They very much seem like *campers* who came from *below*.
 
2013-01-28 04:31:54 PM

Alfonso the Great: I read the headline as "Orz" at first. They very much seem like *campers* who came from *below*.


What?

The *Orz* are like *libertarians* who randomly interject non sequiturs like *RON PAUL* and *Audit the Fed* into their conversations.

The GOP are a coalition. The Druuge provide financing and set the agenda. The Thraddash and Kohr-Ah happily provide the military part of the military industrial complex. The Ilwrath fanatically follow the dictates of their bloodthirsty religion.
 
2013-01-28 04:37:06 PM

namatad: Weaver95: the Republicans might have to actually do something nice for the middle class if they expect to salvage their party.

Well that got me laughing first thing in the morning.

From the comments:
If the Republicans are really the "party of the rich" why do so many Billionaires, Centanaries and Deca-aires vote and contribute to the Democrats?

It is cute that the people commenting confuse GOP voters with GOP policies.
The GOP voters are as diverse as the DEM voters when it comes to upper income.
The GOP policies favor the rich and punish the poor.


Did...did someone just essentially say that the people with tens of dollars and hundreds of dollars are equatable with the people who have BILLIONS of dollars in terms of wealth?
 
2013-01-28 04:53:09 PM

Parthenogenetic: Alfonso the Great: I read the headline as "Orz" at first. They very much seem like *campers* who came from *below*.

What?

The *Orz* are like *libertarians* who randomly interject non sequiturs like *RON PAUL* and *Audit the Fed* into their conversations.

The GOP are a coalition. The Druuge provide financing and set the agenda. The Thraddash and Kohr-Ah happily provide the military part of the military industrial complex. The Ilwrath fanatically follow the dictates of their bloodthirsty religion.


I think you're onto something here...they do have a great number of Talking Heads Pets working for them as well....

/though they function more like neo-Dnyarri
 
2013-01-28 10:44:18 PM

AgentKGB: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 190x285]

You're gonna like the way you look. I guarantee it.


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2013-01-29 05:46:45 AM

friday13: Did...did someone just essentially say that the people with tens of dollars and hundreds of dollars are equatable with the people who have BILLIONS of dollars in terms of wealth?


I think in context they intend to mean people with 100m and 10m respectively.
 
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