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2013-01-28 10:27:44 AM
That was cool to see...
 
2013-01-28 10:32:10 AM
That would be the same Jeff Saturday who was benched this season? But yeah, the Pro Bowl has value.
 
2013-01-28 10:47:53 AM

Yanks_RSJ: That would be the same Jeff Saturday who was benched this season? But yeah, the Pro Bowl has value.


Jeff Saturday is a hall of famer.
 
2013-01-28 10:51:43 AM
At least he didn't hike the ball to an imaginary quarterback.
 
2013-01-28 10:56:06 AM

Sargun: Yanks_RSJ: That would be the same Jeff Saturday who was benched this season? But yeah, the Pro Bowl has value.

Jeff Saturday is a hall of famer.


Which does not conflict with the point of my post at all.
 
2013-01-28 10:59:03 AM
Playoffs > regular season > Pro Bowl > Super Bowl in terms of watchability this year.

/last year's Pro Bowl sucked but this year's was pretty solid
//re-confirmed how vastly superior the talent in the NFC is
 
2013-01-28 11:00:22 AM
I would grab Jeff Saturday's ass anytime!
 
2013-01-28 11:07:29 AM

IAmRight: Playoffs > regular season > Pro Bowl > Super Bowl in terms of watchability this year.

/last year's Pro Bowl sucked but this year's was pretty solid
//re-confirmed how vastly superior the talent in the NFC is


Buttfumble GIF > Playoffs > regular season > Pro Bowl > Super Bowl in terms of watchability this year.
 
2013-01-28 11:18:42 AM

IAmRight: Playoffs > regular season > Pro Bowl > Super Bowl in terms of watchability this year.

/last year's Pro Bowl sucked but this year's was pretty solid
//re-confirmed how vastly superior the talent in the NFC is


Team from the West Coast, team from the East Coast. Speaking as a transplanted midwesterner, I think that makes for a really good Super Bowl. Granted, ESPN Boston isn't able to rave about Brady endlessly for 2 weeks -- but wait, how's that a bad thing?
 
2013-01-28 11:40:45 AM

Yanks_RSJ: Sargun: Yanks_RSJ: That would be the same Jeff Saturday who was benched this season? But yeah, the Pro Bowl has value.

Jeff Saturday is a hall of famer.

Which does not conflict with the point of my post at all.


His benching was announced on Dec. 21; the Pro Bowl rosters were announced Dec. 26.

The Packers had won 10 games and clinched their division.

If he had been benched prior to the balloting, you'd have a point. But he wasn't.
 
2013-01-28 11:44:55 AM

rufus-t-firefly: If he had been benched prior to the balloting, you'd have a point. But he wasn't.


My point is that the Pro Bowl is worthless, and that is exemplified by the fact that a player who wasn't good enough to start for his own team was selected to participate. Regardless of when the benching occurred, he clearly wasn't getting the job done, yet was selected anyway.
 
2013-01-28 11:56:44 AM
The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest, in which the most popular players in the NFL willing to show up to Hawaii play a friendly exhibition game. Many of the participants are either early in a promising career or late in a successful career. It is not the "Most Talented" Bowl.
 
2013-01-28 11:59:47 AM

Farkn Yaj Yenrac: The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest, in which the most popular players in the NFL willing to show up to Hawaii play a friendly exhibition game. Many of the participants are either early in a promising career or late in a successful career. It is not the "Most Talented" Bowl.


And also, they play with rules that basically make it just about touch football.

I would not argue against the suggestion that the NFC is the better conference right now, but, the Pro Bowl isn't what proves it, at all.
 
2013-01-28 12:17:46 PM

dletter: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest, in which the most popular players in the NFL willing to show up to Hawaii play a friendly exhibition game. Many of the participants are either early in a promising career or late in a successful career. It is not the "Most Talented" Bowl.

And also, they play with rules that basically make it just about touch football.

I would not argue against the suggestion that the NFC is the better conference right now, but, the Pro Bowl isn't what proves it, at all.


It proves that in the era of Sunday Ticket and fantasy teams on Madden, all-star games are utterly pointless - and that goes double for the all-star game in a sport where the game is completely different than the real product.
 
2013-01-28 12:20:00 PM

dletter: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest, in which the most popular players in the NFL willing to show up to Hawaii play a friendly exhibition game. Many of the participants are either early in a promising career or late in a successful career. It is not the "Most Talented" Bowl.

And also, they play with rules that basically make it just about touch football.

I would not argue against the suggestion that the NFC is the better conference right now, but, the Pro Bowl isn't what proves it, at all.


Watching pass rushers pull up at the last second and tacklers gently guiding RBs to the ground sort of kills my motivation to watch the Pro Bowl. There was a play in the early 2nd half where a defender ran right by the o-line and then just stood there and watched Eli throw the ball. What's the point? Eli threw short routes to Cruz for an entire touchdown drive and nobody even bothered to cover them because coming up to make a play would have taken effort.

The thing that annoys me the most is the extra point attempt. They don't get down or even raise their hands for it. They just stand there. Why even do it if you're going to just go through the motions? Why not just make TDs worth 7, or make them go for 2 every time? Especially in a game where you're going to see 100 points of scoring, lining up 22 guys who are just going to watch the kicker drill it seems like a waste.

I'd rather see a skills competition.
 
2013-01-28 12:27:55 PM
That was cool.
 
2013-01-28 12:28:03 PM
Wouldn't a skills competition be awesome? You could have some really badass events. Have a long ball contest where QBs try to hit targets 30 or 40 yards away, kickers trying to hit rugby-style shots from insane places on the field, a "homerun" derby with a WR and QB working against a DB for long bombs. Mess with the rosters and make a 7 on 7 game NFL Street style, with guys playing both ways.

Hell, just put them all on the Wipeout course. I'd watch the shiat out of that.
 
2013-01-28 12:44:19 PM

Treygreen13: Hell, just put them all on the Wipeout course. I'd watch the shiat out of that.


NFL Wipeout.

I like the sound of that, I seem to remember Byron Leftwich on TV doing a similar course a few years ago. It was entertaining.
 
2013-01-28 12:51:39 PM

Yanks_RSJ: rufus-t-firefly: If he had been benched prior to the balloting, you'd have a point. But he wasn't.

My point is that the Pro Bowl is worthless, and that is exemplified by the fact that a player who wasn't good enough to start for his own team was selected to participate. Regardless of when the benching occurred, he clearly wasn't getting the job done, yet was selected anyway.


Yep. Hate to say it, but if we go with people who put up good stats, then why was Larry Fitzgerald there? He's an awesome WR, but he didn't have a QB to throw the ball to him. His presence alone indicates that the Pro Bowl is based on name recognition and nothing else.
 
2013-01-28 12:53:04 PM

Treygreen13: Wouldn't a skills competition be awesome? You could have some really badass events. Have a long ball contest where QBs try to hit targets 30 or 40 yards away, kickers trying to hit rugby-style shots from insane places on the field, a "homerun" derby with a WR and QB working against a DB for long bombs. Mess with the rosters and make a 7 on 7 game NFL Street style, with guys playing both ways.

Hell, just put them all on the Wipeout course. I'd watch the shiat out of that.


They used to do a skills competition. I remember watching Dan Marino, Boomer Esiason, and Dave Krieg (!) dominate the accuracy contests.
 
2013-01-28 01:00:32 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Treygreen13: Wouldn't a skills competition be awesome? You could have some really badass events. Have a long ball contest where QBs try to hit targets 30 or 40 yards away, kickers trying to hit rugby-style shots from insane places on the field, a "homerun" derby with a WR and QB working against a DB for long bombs. Mess with the rosters and make a 7 on 7 game NFL Street style, with guys playing both ways.

Hell, just put them all on the Wipeout course. I'd watch the shiat out of that.

They used to do a skills competition. I remember watching Dan Marino, Boomer Esiason, and Dave Krieg (!) dominate the accuracy contests.


I think they would be well-served to move the Prob Owl to a mainland location, too. The NBA All-Star game turns into a major event in the city it is being held in. People come from all over to wherever the All-Star game is being played and take place in all the little events they have, meet the players, all that. The average NFL fan can't hop on a plane to Hawaii, and why would they go to watch the players pretend to care? They might go just because it's Hawaii, but they can do that without going to the Prob Owl.

I think if they had a Prob Owl in some party location on the mainland, with a lot of really cool fan events, and treated it like the buildup to the Superb Owl instead of some unrelated game, it would be popular. You could do it in the same city as the Superb Owl... then it would really be a build up. Plus, you'd already have the Superb Owl players there and they could at least go, be seen by the fans, have a good time. Maybe even participate in some of the lighter events.
 
2013-01-28 01:09:24 PM

Yanks_RSJ: That would be the same Jeff Saturday who was benched this season? But yeah, the Pro Bowl has value.


All All Star games should be like this, fun. It's an exhibition.
 
2013-01-28 01:24:30 PM
Who's Payton Manning? Peyton's other brother?
 
2013-01-28 01:38:47 PM

Treygreen13: Wouldn't a skills competition be awesome? You could have some really badass events. Have a long ball contest where QBs try to hit targets 30 or 40 yards away, kickers trying to hit rugby-style shots from insane places on the field, a "homerun" derby with a WR and QB working against a DB for long bombs. Mess with the rosters and make a 7 on 7 game NFL Street style, with guys playing both ways.

Hell, just put them all on the Wipeout course. I'd watch the shiat out of that.


If you've never seen the episode of Sport Science that featured Drew Brees, dig it up and watch it. His accuracy is unbelievable.

A contest with a dozen top-flite QBs would be great to watch.
 
2013-01-28 01:49:14 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: why was Larry Fitzgerald there?


Same thing got asked of Adrian Wilson the last 2 years he made it, probably a respect choice. Or an excuse to put of the the faces of the NFL on national TV again. They want as many superstars there as they can get, and what WR is more lovable than Fitz?
 
2013-01-28 01:59:03 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: . His presence alone indicates that the Pro Bowl is based on name recognition and nothing else


It's an all-star guy not an all-guys-who-are-really-good game. While usually there's a lot of overlap between who is an all-star and who is really good on the stats sheets, there isn't ever a perfect overlap.
 
2013-01-28 02:05:46 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Yanks_RSJ: Sargun: Yanks_RSJ: That would be the same Jeff Saturday who was benched this season? But yeah, the Pro Bowl has value.

Jeff Saturday is a hall of famer.

Which does not conflict with the point of my post at all.

His benching was announced on Dec. 21; the Pro Bowl rosters were announced Dec. 26.

The Packers had won 10 games and clinched their division.

If he had been benched prior to the balloting, you'd have a point. But he wasn't.


Also, he wasn't benched, he asked out after concluding that he wasn't able to perform at his highest level anymore. Sounds like a Pro Bowler to me.
 
2013-01-28 02:16:12 PM

Dogpants: rufus-t-firefly: Yanks_RSJ: Sargun: Yanks_RSJ: That would be the same Jeff Saturday who was benched this season? But yeah, the Pro Bowl has value.

Jeff Saturday is a hall of famer.

Which does not conflict with the point of my post at all.

His benching was announced on Dec. 21; the Pro Bowl rosters were announced Dec. 26.

The Packers had won 10 games and clinched their division.

If he had been benched prior to the balloting, you'd have a point. But he wasn't.

Also, he wasn't benched, he asked out after concluding that he wasn't able to perform at his highest level anymore. Sounds like a Pro Bowler to me.


Honestly who even cares about Pro Bowl balloting. If you want to really know who the best players were that year, look at the All-Pro teams.
 
2013-01-28 02:17:37 PM

Cybernetic: If you've never seen the episode of Sport Science that featured Drew Brees, dig it up and watch it. His accuracy is unbelievable.


I was just about to post that when whizbangthedirtfarmer mentioned the skills competition. Brees tore that up one time, too, but I couldn't find the video.

Here's the Sports Science one.
 
2013-01-28 02:33:07 PM

coolio mack: Dogpants: rufus-t-firefly: Yanks_RSJ: Sargun: Yanks_RSJ: That would be the same Jeff Saturday who was benched this season? But yeah, the Pro Bowl has value.

Jeff Saturday is a hall of famer.

Which does not conflict with the point of my post at all.

His benching was announced on Dec. 21; the Pro Bowl rosters were announced Dec. 26.

The Packers had won 10 games and clinched their division.

If he had been benched prior to the balloting, you'd have a point. But he wasn't.

Also, he wasn't benched, he asked out after concluding that he wasn't able to perform at his highest level anymore. Sounds like a Pro Bowler to me.

Honestly who even cares about Pro Bowl balloting. If you want to really know who the best players were that year, look at the All-Pro teams.


I think this is the way the Pro Bowl will eventually go: the NFL adopting the All-Pro concept for itself and either making some ceremony or televised show out of it, or using that to boost their Pro Bowl rosters. The Pro Bowl started to really decline in popularity when the fans were allowed to vote. I get that it is supposed to be "fan interactive," but if you've ever sat in the stands at a Redskins game, you would know that a wide number of fans apparently don't have much in the way of brain cells. Hence, this is why folks like Larry Fitzgerald (and I like the guy, I do) end up in the Pro Bowl with less than 800 yard receiving and only 4 TDs.

/still, it was nifty seeing Russell Wilson hit Fitzgerald for a TD
//Seattle, you have ten draft picks, go get him
 
2013-01-28 02:52:23 PM
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2013-01-28 03:02:17 PM
Nice gesture.
For some reason this reminded me of Favre laying down for Strahan.
 
2013-01-28 03:21:25 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: you would know that a wide number of fans apparently don't have much in the way of brain cells. Hence, this is why folks like Larry Fitzgerald (and I like the guy, I do) end up in the Pro Bowl with less than 800 yard receiving and only 4 TDs.


Which, of course, had 0 percent to do with Fitzgerald's performance and 100% to do with the fact that the rest of the offense has no talent whatsoever. And, of course, Fitzgerald WASN'T voted in - Calvin Johnson and Brandon Marshall were selected as the starters (can't really argue with those) and both chose not to play/were injured.

hbk72777: All All Star games should be like this, fun. It's an exhibition.


Exactly. Hey, internet. Get over the whole "hate/don't care about the Pro Bowl" crap. It's passe. You know what? It's an All-Star Game and it's fun to watch the sport's best play one last time for the season. It was nice to see the Seahawks that were allowed to play come out and dominate and to not have their last football of the season be that sh*t drive in Atlanta. If you don't like it, cool. Don't watch it.

BTW, given the current NFL rules, it's not really far off from a regular game anymore anyway.

/they should, however, have a skills competition. EVERY OTHER SPORT DOES THIS as part of their All-Star weekend
//agree to take it out of Hawaii and host it with the Super Bowl
///hell, SB contestant players can participate in the skills competition but not the game
////then let's up the stakes of the game

whizbangthedirtfarmer: /still, it was nifty seeing Russell Wilson hit Fitzgerald for a TD


This is another underrated part of the Pro Bowl. Recruiting! Be a great teammate and person to be around and maybe you can get talented FAs to lean toward your place.

/I like that since Wilson's first TD was intended for Rudolph and Martin caught it, he technically threw another INT for a TD for the offense.
 
2013-01-28 07:15:23 PM

funk_soul_bubby: Cybernetic: If you've never seen the episode of Sport Science that featured Drew Brees, dig it up and watch it. His accuracy is unbelievable.

I was just about to post that when whizbangthedirtfarmer mentioned the skills competition. Brees tore that up one time, too, but I couldn't find the video.

Here's the Sports Science one.


I like how that video is so old that Sports Science wasn't owned by ESPN and couldn't clear using the logo of Brees' jersey with the manufacturer
 
2013-01-28 09:01:42 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Yanks_RSJ: Sargun: Yanks_RSJ: That would be the same Jeff Saturday who was benched this season? But yeah, the Pro Bowl has value.

Jeff Saturday is a hall of famer.

Which does not conflict with the point of my post at all.

His benching was announced on Dec. 21; the Pro Bowl rosters were announced Dec. 26.

The Packers had won 10 games and clinched their division.

If he had been benched prior to the balloting, you'd have a point. But he wasn't.


Saturday's had a giant fork sticking out of his back since week 6. Is he a Hall of Famer someday? Sure, but this year shouldn't be on his resume.
 
2013-01-28 10:06:50 PM
As Dan Patrick said, don't tell me how many Pro Bowls you played in (coughVinceYoungcough) tell me how many you were chosen for.
 
2013-01-29 09:19:05 AM

Yanks_RSJ: rufus-t-firefly: If he had been benched prior to the balloting, you'd have a point. But he wasn't.

My point is that the Pro Bowl is worthless, and that is exemplified by the fact that a player who wasn't good enough to start for his own team was selected to participate. Regardless of when the benching occurred, he clearly wasn't getting the job done, yet was selected anyway.


I won't argue that the Pro Bowl is useful in any way...but he obviously got the job done well enough that he was starting until just before the playoffs.

Giving a younger guy a couple of games to get ready for the playoffs makes a lot of sense.

But I agree that the Pro Bowl is worthless. I don't know how the NFL continues to give us something we obviously don't want. I'm sure there's a way to honor players without this terrible product.
 
2013-01-29 09:25:40 AM

rufus-t-firefly: I don't know how the NFL continues to give us something we obviously don't want.


The NHL would kill for Pro Bowl-esque ratings. It outdrew all of the Stanley Cup Finals for the entire millenium.

Ken VeryBigLiar: Sure, but this year shouldn't be on his resume.


It's an All-Star game. Stop caring.

/FFS the best CB in the NFL didn't make the roster, and people are whining about the backup center, as though anyone watching knows who the top centers in the league are
 
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