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2013-01-28 02:06:12 PM  

TV's Vinnie: andersonmanly: It's 2013. We, as a species, have had manned missions to the moon, and currently have a orbiting space station. Why is launching a monkey into space a big deal?

For the same reason the Western world freaked about Sputnik; those missiles could just as easily be packing a nuclear warhead as much as a satellite.


yes and no. Any semi-serious home rocket guy could get something into low earth orbit but the technology and expertise needed to get something monkey sized into orbit and keep it alive is a whole different kettle of fish. If you can do this then it says that you have the knowledge base and infrastructure to get a lot of other, more scary, things done.

That said my guess is that this is fifteen kinds of bogus.
 
2013-01-28 02:22:39 PM  

omeganuepsilon: omeganuepsilon: You don't need "help", only an education. It's not as if physics and such is classified information, nor is the research done on monkeys from that long ago. The reason we sent monkeys is because we didn't know if it was safe for us. It's pretty obvious that it more or less is, so there's no need to start from scratch for that reason.

It's not some great national secret power that only we have hidden away in top secret archives. It may seem mystical to people with absolutely no awareness about the world around them, like you, but I assure you, most of the theory behind it is pretty well established and obtainable. Contrary to your belief, math and science are not magic super powers. You can actually go to school in a wide variety of countries to learn such things, you don't even necessarily need to be a citizen of such places. I know, I know, it seems very amazing indeed.

Science functions as well as it does because we don't need to start from scratch with each generation, we are able to build upon work that others have done.

Of course, that you think I'm simply "calling them retards", isn't really a surprise, if you look at math and science the way they are, with heavy distrust border-lining on religious paranoia.


Yes, there is no need to test anything because science. Especially nothing as complex as a sub-orbital or orbital vehicle. It's all right there, on paper.

Your initial post left me with the impression that you might just be a smug prick, prone to sweeping assumptions and generalizations. Thank you for dispelling any doubts I may have had.
 
2013-01-28 02:27:21 PM  

A Shambling Mound: Yes, there is no need to test anything because science.


My but you're a dedicated troll.
 
2013-01-28 02:32:32 PM  
i1.mirror.co.uk
A perfect "OH shiat KILL ME NOW!" look.
 
2013-01-28 02:37:40 PM  
Congratulations Iran on evolving to the 1960s.
 
2013-01-28 02:40:50 PM  

Derek Force: hmm.. one step closer to a true Starfish Prime senerio..


Except that one would need a device with a yield upwards of a megaton. Thusfar Iran has no nuclear devices, and the best that North Korea has fielded is in the kiloton range.
 
2013-01-28 02:43:29 PM  
Tremble in fear infidels! Behold our mastery of 50 year old technology! We are on the cusp of touchtone dialing, and we won't play friendly with it. We will be able to prank call the Pentagon with 500% more efficiency.
 
2013-01-28 02:45:27 PM  

omeganuepsilon: You don't need "help", only an education. It's not as if physics and such is classified information, nor is the research done on monkeys from that long ago. The reason we sent monkeys is because we didn't know if it was safe for us. It's pretty obvious that it more or less is, so there's no need to start from scratch for that reason.


And yet even the guys who have been at it for years still manage to fark up the simple things. It's almost as if once you get things off paper and into the real world there are other variables involved.
 
2013-01-28 02:51:00 PM  

JohnCarter: Was it a Muslim monkey?

I am sure Allah would frown on any shenanigans involving primates going sub-orbital if they were not Muslim.


Now that I think about it, how does a Space Muslim prostrate towards Mecca?
Is it really necessary to swear allegiance to a meteorite when you're in space?
Wouldn't your ascent to space make you the new God?
 
2013-01-28 02:55:31 PM  

boyvoyeur: Granted, rocket science is just a hobby of mine, but I think it's pointed the wrong way.

[img534.imageshack.us image 599x373]

Peta must be going ape shiat over this.


cache.ohinternet.com
 
2013-01-28 02:56:14 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: omeganuepsilon: You don't need "help", only an education. It's not as if physics and such is classified information, nor is the research done on monkeys from that long ago. The reason we sent monkeys is because we didn't know if it was safe for us. It's pretty obvious that it more or less is, so there's no need to start from scratch for that reason.

And yet even the guys who have been at it for years still manage to fark up the simple things. It's almost as if once you get things off paper and into the real world there are other variables involved.


Noticeably F.A.T.: omeganuepsilon: You don't need "help", only an education. It's not as if physics and such is classified information, nor is the research done on monkeys from that long ago. The reason we sent monkeys is because we didn't know if it was safe for us. It's pretty obvious that it more or less is, so there's no need to start from scratch for that reason.

And yet even the guys who have been at it for years still manage to fark up the simple things. It's almost as if once you get things off paper and into the real world there are other variables involved.


It's almost as if you don't understand the written word.

What reason is there to test with monkeys?

We know a human can do it and survive, it's made news and documentaries. We haven't sent a monkey up in quite a long time because we know this.

How is this information that they don't have?

Testing the air tight seals? Easily done with household items maybe a camera for back-up realtime recording, much more so with actual electronics packages.

It positively reeks of intentional and willful ignorance, given the information and science available today. Like I said, a caveman first experimenting with advanced technology. There is a certain creepy and dangerous quality there.

Sure, test the rocket. But cheering over replication of well documented and available information that is unnecessary has that air of a 20 year old celebrating being able to tie his shoes on his own for the first time.

If you don't see it, whatever. Go back to your delusional fantasies of reality.
 
2013-01-28 02:57:05 PM  
Stupid double clicking mouse!
 
2013-01-28 03:02:57 PM  

Evil Twin Skippy: Derek Force: hmm.. one step closer to a true Starfish Prime senerio..

Except that one would need a device with a yield upwards of a megaton. Thusfar Iran has no nuclear devices, and the best that North Korea has fielded is in the kiloton range.


Well, we already know you can fly an airplane into the pentagon, so what about a kiloton bomb? Dangerous arsenal is dangerous.
 
2013-01-28 03:05:50 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Noticeably F.A.T.: omeganuepsilon:

Noticeably F.A.T.: omeganuepsilon: You don't need "help", only an education. It's not as if physics and such is classified information, nor is the research done on monkeys from that long ago. The reason we sent monkeys is because we didn't know if it was safe for us. It's pretty obvious that it more or less is, so there's no need to start from scratch for that reason.

And yet even the guys who have been at it for years still manage to fark up the simple things. It's almost as if once you get things off paper and into the real world there are other variables involved.

It's almost as if you don't understand the written word.

What reason is there to test with monkeys?

We know a human can do it and survive, it's made news and documentaries. We haven't sent a monkey up in quite a long time because we know this.

How is this information that they don't have?

Testing the air tight seals? Easily done with household items maybe a camera for back-up realtime recording, much more so with actual electronics packages.

It positively reeks of intentional and willful ignorance, given the information and science available today. Like I said, a caveman first experimenting with advanced technology. There is a certain creepy and dangerous quality there.

Sure, test the rocket. But cheering over replication of well documented and available information that is unnecessary has that air of a 20 year old celebratin ...


Wow, you sure told him. I'm going to save a screenshot of that one.
 
2013-01-28 03:12:33 PM  
www.internationalhero.co.uk
whatever.
 
2013-01-28 03:13:34 PM  

Derek Force: hmm.. one step closer to a true Starfish Prime senerio..


yeah... this will not end well
 
2013-01-28 03:24:05 PM  

omeganuepsilon: What reason is there to test with monkeys?


Proof to the rest of the world. It's all well and good to say "Hey, all our gauges say we did it right", it's much harder to disprove "We didn't kill the monkey".
 
2013-01-28 03:30:08 PM  
So much hate for Iran. You guys are obviously eager for some more war. Why don't you have a nice little civil war though, leave the rest of us out of it? It'll be just as fun and you won't have to travel all that way! Win/win!
 
2013-01-28 03:33:13 PM  
Been there done that.......
i1244.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-28 03:34:14 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: omeganuepsilon: What reason is there to test with monkeys?

Proof to the rest of the world. It's all well and good to say "Hey, all our gauges say we did it right", it's much harder to disprove "We didn't kill the monkey".


That's an odd way of looking at it, as if there were a bet on the table with other countries. Either way it's as easily fudged if they were to lie about it, as several people here have noted already.
 
2013-01-28 03:51:45 PM  

omeganuepsilon: as if there were a bet on the table with other countries.


Do you honestly think that intimidation of other countries isn't a factor, especially with Iran?
 
2013-01-28 04:00:35 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: omeganuepsilon: as if there were a bet on the table with other countries.

Do you honestly think that intimidation of other countries isn't a factor, especially with Iran?


Honestly, it is almost as if you have some personal grudge with me, not what I am saying. If you had read my posts in their entirety it would be clear that I think there is some disturbed reasoning at work.
 
2013-01-28 04:01:51 PM  
What an Iranian space monkey may look like:
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-28 04:09:31 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Noticeably F.A.T.: omeganuepsilon: What reason is there to test with monkeys?

Proof to the rest of the world. It's all well and good to say "Hey, all our gauges say we did it right", it's much harder to disprove "We didn't kill the monkey".

That's an odd way of looking at it, as if there were a bet on the table with other countries. Either way it's as easily fudged if they were to lie about it, as several people here have noted already.


Yeah, Iran is weak sauce. What do they have, like, 74.7 million people? And they produce, what, 331 Billion domestically per year? They're not even in the top-20. Pathetic. Even if they did have some sort of inclination to destroy entire races, it's not like they would spend money on things like rockets. The oil producing nation is in the middle of an energy crisis after all. What they need right now is nuclear energy from African Uranium and anti-aircraft power to ward off Israelis.
 
2013-01-28 04:09:35 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: omeganuepsilon: What reason is there to test with monkeys?

Proof to the rest of the world. It's all well and good to say "Hey, all our gauges say we did it right", it's much harder to disprove "We didn't kill the monkey".


no. monkeys are notoriously fungible.
 
2013-01-28 04:11:26 PM  
It's not a big deal, the monkey just happened to be in an exhaust vent at the Fordow site at the wrong time
 
2013-01-28 04:13:51 PM  

Wangiss: omeganuepsilon: Noticeably F.A.T.: omeganuepsilon: What reason is there to test with monkeys?

Proof to the rest of the world. It's all well and good to say "Hey, all our gauges say we did it right", it's much harder to disprove "We didn't kill the monkey".

That's an odd way of looking at it, as if there were a bet on the table with other countries. Either way it's as easily fudged if they were to lie about it, as several people here have noted already.

Yeah, Iran is weak sauce. What do they have, like, 74.7 million people? And they produce, what, 331 Billion domestically per year? They're not even in the top-20. Pathetic. Even if they did have some sort of inclination to destroy entire races, it's not like they would spend money on things like rockets. The oil producing nation is in the middle of an energy crisis after all. What they need right now is nuclear energy from African Uranium and anti-aircraft power to ward off Israelis.


Is that you IDW?
/lay off the draino cocktails
 
2013-01-28 04:15:08 PM  
That launch system is totally a peaceful one yeah.
 
2013-01-28 04:18:12 PM  

andersonmanly

It's 2013. We, as a species, have had manned missions to the moon, and currently have a orbiting space station. Why is launching a monkey into space a big deal?

key word "had" Their manned program out distances us.

Hell our unmanned program wouldn't exist if not for Russian engines so NASA fan-boys can shove your Curiosity images up your black-hole.
 
2013-01-28 04:25:55 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Honestly, it is almost as if you have some personal grudge with me, not what I am saying.


Well, when you come into an argument with insults and condescension, it doesn't lead to people putting much effort into debating you.
 
2013-01-28 04:35:51 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Wangiss: omeganuepsilon: Noticeably F.A.T.: omeganuepsilon: What reason is there to test with monkeys?

Proof to the rest of the world. It's all well and good to say "Hey, all our gauges say we did it right", it's much harder to disprove "We didn't kill the monkey".

That's an odd way of looking at it, as if there were a bet on the table with other countries. Either way it's as easily fudged if they were to lie about it, as several people here have noted already.

Yeah, Iran is weak sauce. What do they have, like, 74.7 million people? And they produce, what, 331 Billion domestically per year? They're not even in the top-20. Pathetic. Even if they did have some sort of inclination to destroy entire races, it's not like they would spend money on things like rockets. The oil producing nation is in the middle of an energy crisis after all. What they need right now is nuclear energy from African Uranium and anti-aircraft power to ward off Israelis.

Is that you IDW?
/lay off the draino cocktails


No, just an old Schleswiger tired of militant ethnic bullshiat.
 
2013-01-28 04:42:00 PM  
Persians orbit macaque.
 
2013-01-28 04:55:58 PM  
Looks like they've posted a pic of it's return...

www.chud.com
 
2013-01-28 06:50:29 PM  
This thread, and all the FARKers who can't understand why this is important or why Iran would even need to send a monkey into space, are the reason we'll never accomplish another manned flight to the moon, or any other celestial object, again.

/oh well, shouldn't have expected much from the video game generation
//just go back to pwning n00bs in CoD and selling YouTube videos of the funniest moments, it's better for your precious self esteem than trying to accomplish anything in real life
 
2013-01-28 07:13:58 PM  

Wangiss: No, just an old Schleswiger tired of militant ethnic bullshiat.


Ah, so that's what you're arguing against. No wonder you had to fabricate some BS.

IMO, a pissing contest(joining the space race 60 years too late or veiled demonstrations of power) is not the way to gain global respect.

If they had a clue or three, they'd work more towards ditching sharia law, terrorist ties, and follow up with promoting equality and civil rights and such.

But no no you're right, I'm a militant anti-brown skin bigot, for calling them on it. You're certainly not an apologist at all, nor so liberal you're bent over backwards.
/sarcasm
 
2013-01-28 09:38:09 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Wangiss: No, just an old Schleswiger tired of militant ethnic bullshiat.

Ah, so that's what you're arguing against. No wonder you had to fabricate some BS.

IMO, a pissing contest(joining the space race 60 years too late or veiled demonstrations of power) is not the way to gain global respect.

If they had a clue or three, they'd work more towards ditching sharia law, terrorist ties, and follow up with promoting equality and civil rights and such.

But no no you're right, I'm a militant anti-brown skin bigot, for calling them on it. You're certainly not an apologist at all, nor so liberal you're bent over backwards.
/sarcasm


I'm a progressive minarchist; never been a liberal. I don't think you're a bigot. You must have conflated my posts with someone else's. Go back and read them again.
 
2013-01-28 09:49:05 PM  

Wangiss: You must have conflated my posts with someone else's. Go back and read them again.


Not so much.

Wangiss: No, just an old Schleswiger tired of militant ethnic bullshiat.


The confrontational attitude in combination with the direct implication...

But whatever, troll on broheim.
 
2013-01-29 09:07:28 AM  
 
2013-01-29 10:59:50 AM  

MythDragon: This still pisses me off:
[www.spacetoday.org image 400x327]

Russians sent the dog up without ever intending for her to come back alive. She died a nasty death


Hot.
 
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