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2013-01-27 11:57:31 PM
The informant said the father killed his eldest daughter while his wife was away on business and then killed his son because he had witnessed the murder.
When his wife returned the man told her they had 'meat' but she became suspicious and contacted officials who discovered part of the children's bodies.


Ah, the old our-children-are-missing-but-we-have-plenty-of-meat gambit. I can't say I've never tried it.
 
2013-01-28 12:03:52 AM
Well, they do have over 24 million people left...
 
2013-01-28 12:10:34 AM
The solution was modestly proposed.
 
2013-01-28 12:17:59 AM
But an hour later they're hungry again

/close enough
 
2013-01-28 12:43:25 AM
They really should vote for a President from a different family.

/I was told NK is a democratic republic
 
2013-01-28 12:47:08 AM
Sing rickety rickety tin.
 
2013-01-28 12:50:52 AM

Lionel Mandrake: /I was told NK is a democratic republic


It is. It's as democratic of a republic as the German Democratic Republic, the Lao People's Democratic Republic, the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, the People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, Democratic Kampuchea, the Somali Democratic Republic, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, or the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen.

/and those are only the Marxist-Leninist democratic republics
 
2013-01-28 01:07:34 AM
images56.fotki.com

images54.fotki.com
 
2013-01-28 01:13:22 AM
Ugh. And i just watched this movie
www.examiner.com
 
2013-01-28 01:13:58 AM
Of all the people running this story we go with the goddamn Daily Fail?  Jesus farking Christ.
 
2013-01-28 01:17:03 AM
Do they play rugby?
 
2013-01-28 01:18:10 AM

GAT_00: Of all the people running this story we go with the goddamn Daily Fail?  Jesus farking Christ.


So it is actually a real story?
 
2013-01-28 01:31:08 AM

violentsalvation: GAT_00: Of all the people running this story we go with the goddamn Daily Fail?  Jesus farking Christ.

So it is actually a real story?


The source is considered legitimate.  From what Reddit dug up - the link they have is a pay site, so it was reposted - the source is Asia Press, which runs citizen reporters.  This is that link, the source of which is this.  The BBC has in the past used them as a source on NK activity, so I'm willing to consider this as provable as possible.

Full text:

Cannibal horror as 10,000 North Koreans starve
by: Michael Sheridan
From: The Times
January 28, 2013 12:00AM

A FATHER in North Korea is reported to have been executed by firing squad after murdering his two children to eat them during a "hidden famine" that may have killed more than 10,000 people last year.

In a litany of horrors documented by undercover reporters, another man dug up his grandchild's corpse for food and a third, driven mad by hunger, boiled his own child and ate the flesh.

The stories were collected by Asia Press, a specialist news agency based in Osaka, Japan, which has a network of "citizen journalists" inside North Korea and is regarded as credible.

Dozens of interviews and clandestine reports have led it to conclude that "considerable numbers of people" - probably more than 10,000 - have died in North and South Hwanghae provinces, south of Pyongyang, the capital.

North Korea has not officially confirmed any deaths. A government-supervised mission by the UN last September reported a food surplus in both provinces, yet the clandestine reporting depicts a pattern of misery and death while Kim Jong-un, the country's leader, spent lavishly on banquets and missile tests. One informant, an official in South Hwanghae, said: "In my village in May, a man who killed his own two children and tried to eat them was executed by a firing squad.

"While his wife was away on business he killed his eldest daughter and, because his son saw what he had done, he killed his son as well. When the wife came home, he offered her food, saying: 'We have meat.'

"But his wife, suspicious, notified the Ministry of Public Security, which led to the discovery of part of their children's bodies under the eaves."

In its detailed 12-page report, Asia Press identifies reporters and sources by pseudonyms. "Particularly shocking were the numerous testimonies that hit us about cannibalism," said the agency's Jiro Ishimaru.

Gu Gwang-ho, one of the reporters in North Korea, wrote: "There was an incident when a man was arrested for digging up the grave of his grandchild and eating the remains."

In May in Haeju, South Hwanghae's main city, a man who had killed 11 people and sold the meat as pork was executed by firing squad.

"In a village in Chongdan county, a man who went mad with hunger boiled his own child, ate his flesh and was arrested," said a mid-ranking official of the ruling Korean Workers Party.

These incidents reportedly took place as Mr Kim, 30, marked his ascent to power with a new image, a glamorous wife and two costly rocket launches.

Last week, he followed these with a defiant pledge to retaliate against the latest UN sanctions by staging a third nuclear weapons test "aimed at the United States".

Early last year, officials confiscated food from farm collectives in North and South Hwanghae to supply the army and reward the privileged residents of Pyongyang for their loyalty to the Kim dynasty, the undercover reporters say.

But then a drought struck and, from April to June, farmers and their families in these "breadbasket" provinces began to die.

"One family was completely wiped out, everyone died of starvation, while another family gave up hope of living and killed themselves," said Gu.

A hospital administrator said there was no wood for coffins or cremations, so the dead had been wrapped in straw mats and tipped into an unmarked common grave.

"The farming villages I visited from May to June were in such a tragic state that I had to cover my eyes," the party official added. "There was no food at all. Casting out elderly parents or abandoning children was nothing rare."

"Political waste" on celebrations and extra rations for Pyongyang were key factors, according to the reporters. Mr Kim, a plump, beaming figure, ordered new apartment blocks, imported equipment for a fairground and a dolphinarium, staged lavish festivities and appeared at a pop concert with his pregnant wife.

"The smooth transfer of power . . . was the top priority," according to the reporters. The famine in the Hwanghae provinces has passed its peak, the reports say. It is probable that when the UN team visited the area in the autumn, it was shown no evidence of it.

Japanese government sources say North Korea has developed a compact nuclear weapon that can fit on to a missile capable of reaching the US's west coast. The device may be equal in force to the atomic bomb that destroyed the city of Nagasaki in 1945, the sources told the Asahi Shimbun newspaper.

As Mr Kim celebrates his first year in power, it is clear thousands have paid for his adventures.

Additional reporting: Shota Ushio, Tokyo The Sunday Times

So, unconfirmed stories, but from a source considered to be credible.
 
2013-01-28 01:31:56 AM
laughingsquid.com
 
2013-01-28 01:59:29 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk

Well, some of them do.
 
2013-01-28 02:04:58 AM

GAT_00: So, unconfirmed stories, but from a source considered to be credible.


Dammit that sucks. I was hoping it was BS. But thanks for the links and the text.
 
2013-01-28 02:14:33 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: But an hour later they're hungry again


It's a pretty elegant natural solution to supply-and-demand. Pretty much ensures you don't have more people than you have food.
 
2013-01-28 02:16:27 AM

violentsalvation: GAT_00: So, unconfirmed stories, but from a source considered to be credible.

Dammit that sucks. I was hoping it was BS. But thanks for the links and the text.


It may very well be BS. It's North Korea. How the fark are we supposed to prove anything from there?

But this seems difficult to dream up.
 
2013-01-28 02:26:07 AM
Meanwhile, in the most of the rest of the world it's the 21st century.
 
2013-01-28 02:26:40 AM
I submitted this with a more Modest headline.
 
2013-01-28 02:27:17 AM

Evenbiggerknickers: Ugh. And i just watched this movie


It would have been a bit worse if you'd just finished the book, or *spoiler* gotten to the part with the baby BBQ.
 
2013-01-28 02:28:00 AM
They should start by eating the fatty who's running the country just like dear old dad, and then work their way down through the monsters who are helping him stay in power.
 
2013-01-28 02:33:12 AM

simplicimus: Sing rickety rickety tin.


www.worldlawdirect.com
 
2013-01-28 02:33:27 AM
Boiled? I thought Koreans were into BBQ.
 
2013-01-28 02:33:57 AM
As usual, Simpsons did it.

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-28 02:34:20 AM
"Undercover reporters said food was confiscated from the two provinces and given to the residents of the capital Pyongyang.

Let the Hunger Games begin!
 
2013-01-28 02:35:35 AM
Quit posting spoilers for next week's Walking Dead!!
 
2013-01-28 02:37:06 AM
Rattle sabers. Run horrific stories of starvation. Get food aid.

I've seen this movie before.
 
2013-01-28 02:39:12 AM
Great, I still have twenty minutes to lunch and I have to read all this stuff about food
 
2013-01-28 02:39:40 AM
Not that this would ever, you know, HAPPEN, but I do wonder about the possible ramifications of a major shift in political ties. Let's just say Lil' Kim grows a conscience, and decides he's sick of his people starving to death and resorting to cannibalism, so he comes out publicly and agrees to cooperate with the UN and NATO in exchange for aid.

Does China get frogy and march in troops? Do his own generals take him our for being weak, possibly before the move? I do remember him having to perform that "show of force" before his dad named him the heir apparent and shelled some apartments, so that's possible.

Just trying to play out this Tom Clancy-esque "What If" in my head.
 
2013-01-28 02:41:14 AM
Hmmm, Baby Back Ribs.
 
2013-01-28 02:42:00 AM
We should just start dropping food packages over there from HALO drop height; they may see it coming but they (probably) won't be able to do anything about it. I'm sure we've got plenty of MREs to spare...
 
2013-01-28 02:42:03 AM
I think the author missed the point. It's not that Best Korean people are starving, it's that Best Korean children are particularly tasty and some fat little piggies just can't help themselves.
 
2013-01-28 02:42:03 AM
Chuin is not amused....
 
2013-01-28 02:43:49 AM
It takes a special kind of evil to sit in your palace being a fat fark while people outside are starving.
 
2013-01-28 02:44:37 AM
"They are worked up, sir, because they are so poor that they are forced to have children as a cheap alternative to turkey at Christmas. "

/Blackadder
 
2013-01-28 02:45:05 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Rattle sabers. Run horrific stories of starvation. Get food aid.

I've seen this movie before.


Toy Story 2?
 
2013-01-28 02:46:18 AM
They could feed them with all the nuclear bombs they are trying to build.
 
2013-01-28 02:47:06 AM
Dinner is served.

t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-28 02:48:02 AM
The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.
 
2013-01-28 02:50:02 AM

Shadowknight: Does China get frogy and march in troops? Do his own generals take him our for being weak, possibly before the move?


It's more likely that China nudges them in the direction of gradual capitalist reform. The same reforms that saved the people's republic from from mass starvation. It is a common problem in communist states. Lax enforcement of communist laws against private sales of produce is the only thing keeping Cuba from being NK.
 
2013-01-28 02:51:33 AM

sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.


Not that you're not right, but don't forget that while China treats them like an unruly stepchild from a forgotten marriage most of the time, they do OFFICIALLY support them. Going in to NK would start WWIII.
 
2013-01-28 02:52:43 AM
What the hell are they thinking? Killing their kids for food. That's just wrong. This is why Best Korea will never truly be best.
If they want to end the food shortage in an effective manner then the kids should kill the parents. Parents are bigger and provide more food. Plus kids are small and eat less, so it lasts even longer. It's not that difficult of a concept to grasp. What the hell do you think refrigerators are for? I'm sure they have some.
 
2013-01-28 02:53:05 AM
Oh, this story. While I'm happy Fark handled it with the usual grace, I was hoping for something a little more fun in the headline.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7559601/Report-on-North-Korea-indicates -p attern-of-cannibalism-on-children-The-last-time-subby-offered-to-munch -on-a-7-year-old-he-was-ordered-to-keep-1000-yards-away-from-schools-p arks

My redlit submission.
 
2013-01-28 02:54:03 AM

ladyfortuna: We should just start dropping food packages over there from HALO drop height; they may see it coming but they (probably) won't be able to do anything about it. I'm sure we've got plenty of MREs to spare...


They've got plenty of SAMs that can engage aircraft well above HALO altitudes. Maybe if we dropped them from the ISS? Or just used our old ICBMs.
 
2013-01-28 02:55:44 AM
Well, at least one of the North Koreans have enough food.
 
2013-01-28 02:58:31 AM
violentsalvation: The third item in "Recent News" on that site is from March 2012. There are no stories on the whole front page that deal with cannibalism, though three of them deal with famine in Hwanghae province. In investigating this site, I was never asked to pay anything, but was always shown full stories without providing any information from the client side whatsoever.

So: Not a pay site, in the context you describe. Doesn't contain the story you posted. Does list Hwanghae famine, but describes much more rational and human reactions like "die", rather than extremist positions like "make your children die".
 
2013-01-28 02:59:48 AM
Cannibalism sounds like a perfect solution to me: they like slogans there, I suggest Each One Eats One. And it's even better that some cannibals get caught and shot, that way they can pretend they disapprove. But, like, the people they execute for cannibalizing their Loved Ones, what do they do with the bodies? It'd be a shame to let that meat go to waste with all the hungry people with guns & bullets around.
 
2013-01-28 03:01:01 AM

sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.


So you are for a war that would cost several times what the iraq and afganistan wars have put together?
 
2013-01-28 03:05:15 AM
If you could manage to kill a person that ate a person that managed to eat another person who also ate someone you'd end up with some kind of North Korean turducken.

/Sort of
 
2013-01-28 03:06:33 AM
I submitted this with the "scary" tag. Anyway, I'm glad the admins finally greenlighted the story.

The cannabilism can only be worse in the concentration camp-like prison camps. The ones where they arrest all three generations of family of anyone who criticizes the government.
 
2013-01-28 03:08:59 AM
F*ck China. They keep the house of horrors known as North Korea going. If China wanted to put an end to this evil insanity, they could do it in a month but they won't because China is just as evil a North Korea, just with more resources.
 
2013-01-28 03:10:57 AM

Sid_6.7:
Ah, the old our-children-are-missing-but-we-have-plenty-of-meat gambit. I can't say I've never tried it.


If God didn't intend us to eat our children, WHY ARE THEY MADE OF MEAT??
 
2013-01-28 03:12:00 AM
www.tcd.ie
 
2013-01-28 03:13:09 AM
Timothy! Timothy...
 
2013-01-28 03:18:04 AM

Befuddled: F*ck China. They keep the house of horrors known as North Korea going. If China wanted to put an end to this evil insanity, they could do it in a month but they won't because China is just as evil a North Korea, just with more resources.


The Communist in China have turned everything they've touched into fark. The Korean War gave us this. You can thank them for the Khmer Rouge. For ruining Tibet. For supporting the Godawful junta in Burma which may have finally come to its senses. Not to mention screwing up Mainland China's businesses, religions, even ruined the Chinese characters by simplifying them but the kids still have to learn the traditional characters.
 
2013-01-28 03:18:54 AM

sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine. Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.


For the youngsters here, it might be worth pointing out - you are referring to a war that already happened and is still going on. SK and NK are still at war. And the U.S. did fight on the side of South Korea.

And yes there is probably close to worldwide universal agreement that the people of South Korea are infinitely better off for it. SK -one of the most promising economies in the world today. NK - one of, if not the, worst.
 
2013-01-28 03:19:26 AM
guides.gamepressure.com

Never should have taken that perk...
 
2013-01-28 03:20:50 AM

Kevin72: The Communist in China have turned everything they've touched into fark. The Korean War gave us this


I thought we blamed MacArthur for the whole Korean mess?
 
2013-01-28 03:21:48 AM

ozman: Chuin is not amused....


Nice.
 
2013-01-28 03:22:33 AM

C18H27NO3: If you could manage to kill a person that ate a person that managed to eat another person who also ate someone you'd end up with some kind of North Korean turducken.

/Sort of


I started to think about your comment, and that is just scary enough to be true. I wonder how prevalent cannabalism is North Korea?

It certainly was a problem in the British Navy at some point.
 
2013-01-28 03:28:55 AM

Befuddled: F*ck China. They keep the house of horrors known as North Korea going. If China wanted to put an end to this evil insanity, they could do it in a month but they won't because China is just as evil a North Korea, just with more resources.


One of the stories which is going around is that the chinese wont bury anyone near the NK border.
And my SK wife confirmed that these stories went around in the south.

You have to wonder how much is propaganda and how much is real.
Certainly the North is slowly starving to death. They always know when NK sneak into the south, they are shorter and in much worse health.

Even China caved in on communism when it came to food production.
Too bad NK is run by an insane royal family and they have years of bad weather screwing with their crops.
 
2013-01-28 03:29:35 AM

Oznog: [guides.gamepressure.com image 280x220]

Never should have taken that perk...


It may not have been the best perk. but it was sure the lulziest. Killing people in their sleep (Sandman), eating them, and selling all their stuff to the vendor in the next room at the Mojave Outpost, that is funny. Doing it again 8 hours later with the next shift, who are sleeping in the same beds with the old naked corpses, that is hilarious.
 
2013-01-28 03:40:43 AM

Kevin72: Befuddled: F*ck China. They keep the house of horrors known as North Korea going. If China wanted to put an end to this evil insanity, they could do it in a month but they won't because China is just as evil a North Korea, just with more resources.

The Communist in China have turned everything they've touched into fark. The Korean War gave us this. You can thank them for the Khmer Rouge. For ruining Tibet. For supporting the Godawful junta in Burma which may have finally come to its senses. Not to mention screwing up Mainland China's businesses, religions, even ruined the Chinese characters by simplifying them but the kids still have to learn the traditional characters.


All I have to say is it is so sad the communist ruined China since everything was so good before them.
 
2013-01-28 03:42:09 AM

Shadowknight: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

Not that you're not right, but don't forget that while China treats them like an unruly stepchild from a forgotten marriage most of the time, they do OFFICIALLY support them. Going in to NK would start WWIII.


China needs to stop protecting that asshole and crack down HARD. I wouldn't lose any sleep if there was a sudden purge in NK. If the UN had any balls, they'd state flat out that the government is offensive to the entire world and anyone who protects the status quo is equally guilty of the horrors being inflicted on the people.
 
2013-01-28 03:45:14 AM

ozman: Chuin is not amused....


No worries, he has Remo to beat up on in the form of training...
 
Skr
2013-01-28 03:46:18 AM

Oznog: [guides.gamepressure.com image 280x220]

Never should have taken that perk...


I came in to mention that the map in the article
i.dailymail.co.uk
looks like a quick travel map from Fallout. A Fallout game situated in nork doesn't seem too far fetched.
 
2013-01-28 03:47:40 AM
So tell me again why the risk to Seoul is too great to justify invading this country and eliminating its leadership?
 
2013-01-28 03:51:25 AM

GUTSU: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

So you are for a war that would cost several times what the iraq and afganistan wars have put together?


We probably have more troops concentrated in SK than most countries have for an army. I imagine the defense forces the SK has mustered by the border isn't cheap either. If a war were to start (rather than the phony/limited war now), it would be quick and SK would probably just absorb NK like West Germany did with East Germany. I think the populations of both sides and the SK government just want the ongoing war to be over. NK will not go down without destruction or mass genocide so we can leave the whole "make peace not war" crap in the hippy section of history.
 
2013-01-28 03:53:23 AM

Shadowknight: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

Not that you're not right, but don't forget that while China treats them like an unruly stepchild from a forgotten marriage most of the time, they do OFFICIALLY support them. Going in to NK would start WWIII.


China doesn't care anymore. They pay lip service to supporting North Korea but if push came to shove, they'd step out of the way. They're not going to fight a war for this giant pain in their ass.
 
2013-01-28 03:53:28 AM

OgreMagi: If the UN had any balls, they'd state flat out that the government is offensive to the entire world and anyone who protects the status quo is equally guilty of the horrors being inflicted on the people.


I'm more of the 'Let's fix our own problems first and to hell with the rest of the world in the meantime'-type but NK perpetuates crimes against humanity every minute of the day and it boggles my mind how we as a people allow it.
And by 'we' I mean the world.

I don't pretend to have any answers but something has to be done over there, by someone, sooner rather than later.
These are real people no different in essence than you or I.
 
2013-01-28 03:58:41 AM
I kinda see a "Reagan Doctrine" in the works here.

Make Best Korea spend a buttload of money on rocket launches until they eventually run out of money after China finally cuts them off. Fatt Dingdongs ends up being deposed (and eaten), and all those refugees start spilling across the borders into China (which serves Bejing right after all these decades).
 
2013-01-28 04:03:37 AM
serialkillersink.net

Hai Guyz, what's going on in this thread?! Oh, I see. Does anyone know Korean?
Please help me write this in Korean, please:

Hello! I am a Teacher of English. I am very experienced, and specialise in teaching children.
They make the best pupils. They also have the most intriguing brains and carefully prepared it can last a life-time.
The mindful child is a healthy child. Let me help nurture their bodies and brains.

Yours, Albert Fish.
 
2013-01-28 04:05:51 AM

NobleHam: Shadowknight: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

Not that you're not right, but don't forget that while China treats them like an unruly stepchild from a forgotten marriage most of the time, they do OFFICIALLY support them. Going in to NK would start WWIII.

China doesn't care anymore. They pay lip service to supporting North Korea but if push came to shove, they'd step out of the way. They're not going to fight a war for this giant pain in their ass.


I don't know, man. I can see it being one of those pride and honor situations. I can insult my fat, stupid kid, but that's because he's MY fat stupid kid. Don't YOU dare say he's fat and stupid, though, because thems fightin' words, son.
 
2013-01-28 04:09:14 AM

nmemkha: Boiled? I thought Koreans were into BBQ.


Right. And just how would they fill up all those little bowls with various sauces and veggies to compliment the BBQ? Something doesn't add up here.
 
2013-01-28 04:15:49 AM

C18H27NO3: OgreMagi: If the UN had any balls, they'd state flat out that the government is offensive to the entire world and anyone who protects the status quo is equally guilty of the horrors being inflicted on the people.

I'm more of the 'Let's fix our own problems first and to hell with the rest of the world in the meantime'-type but NK perpetuates crimes against humanity every minute of the day and it boggles my mind how we as a people allow it.
And by 'we' I mean the world.

I don't pretend to have any answers but something has to be done over there, by someone, sooner rather than later.
These are real people no different in essence than you or I.


I also tend towards the "fix our own problems first" thinking, but agree with you. What is happening in NK is too horrific to ignore. However, the only way anything is going to get fixed is if China stepped in. I don't see that happening unless something forces their hand.
 
2013-01-28 04:20:46 AM
North Korea is still there give the rest of the world something to fear in regard to their own governments. So long as there is something to fear devolving into, every other society is easy to control. (and is downright pleasant by comparision)

If we wanted to execute the royal family, we could've done so at any time. It doesn't serve our purposes. Our government has to leave at least one standing nutjob nation to justify the billions we dump into foreign entitlements and our defense spending.

(and yes, if they had oil, we'd have finished them off and found a different nutjob nation to fearmonger with)
 
2013-01-28 04:23:05 AM

SquiggsIN: North Korea is still there give the rest of the world something to fear in regard to their own governments. So long as there is something to fear devolving into, every other society is easy to control. (and is downright pleasant by comparision)

If we wanted to execute the royal family, we could've done so at any time. It doesn't serve our purposes. Our government has to leave at least one standing nutjob nation to justify the billions we dump into foreign entitlements and our defense spending.

(and yes, if they had oil, we'd have finished them off and found a different nutjob nation to fearmonger with)


That it the stupidest conspiracy theory I have ever heard.
 
2013-01-28 04:27:08 AM

GAT_00: violentsalvation: GAT_00: So, unconfirmed stories, but from a source considered to be credible.

Dammit that sucks. I was hoping it was BS. But thanks for the links and the text.

It may very well be BS. It's North Korea. How the fark are we supposed to prove anything from there?

But this seems difficult to dream up.


I saw it earlier on an AP feed, and again on CNBC's screen runner. You can take that for what it's worth, but given that that region has a history of horrible famines and horribliler responses, I can totally believe it.
 
2013-01-28 04:28:39 AM
My BS factor was pegged with GAT_00's story when they mentioned there was no wood for cremation.  It was odd how they mentioned no wood for caskets as well like it was a wild west movie where the undertaker was making the coffins.

If you want to get a group of people to be angry with another country, you have to appeal to the war mongers and the peaceniks and the best way to enrage the second group is with starving children.
 
2013-01-28 04:32:36 AM

Shadowknight: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

Not that you're not right, but don't forget that while China treats them like an unruly stepchild from a forgotten marriage most of the time, they do OFFICIALLY support them. Going in to NK would start WWIII.


Would China really risk a war with the US for NK? The economic ramifications alone would be severe for China, also this would be a war China likely loses. They'd do plenty of grumbling if we invaded NK, but ultimately would back down far before considering a war with the US.
 
2013-01-28 04:35:29 AM

Shadowknight: NobleHam: Shadowknight: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

Not that you're not right, but don't forget that while China treats them like an unruly stepchild from a forgotten marriage most of the time, they do OFFICIALLY support them. Going in to NK would start WWIII.

China doesn't care anymore. They pay lip service to supporting North Korea but if push came to shove, they'd step out of the way. They're not going to fight a war for this giant pain in their ass.

I don't know, man. I can see it being one of those pride and honor situations. I can insult my fat, stupid kid, but that's because he's MY fat stupid kid. Don't YOU dare say he's fat and stupid, though, because thems fightin' words, son.


A lot has changed since 1950, though. The Cold War is over and there's no Soviet Union left for China to side with, they rely on us economically and would really much rather have North Korea open for them to exploit its resources and use its cheap labor. China has been tacitly allowing defections from North Korea for about a decade against the Kim family's will and now has a pretty sizable expat population pushing for liberation. China wouldn't help us out if we decided to do something about NK, and they'd probably send us a strongly worded letter with their disapproval, but we wouldn't have to worry about them actually fighting us. The only things stopping us are concerns about Seoul's safety and reluctance on the part of the South to take on the task of modernizing the North, but I think the former is overblown and the latter isn't a very popular excuse among the people in the South, many of whom still have family in the North.
 
2013-01-28 04:38:54 AM
I can believe it. The great famine in ancient Egypt, the terrible famine in China, and the Ethiopian famine all had accounts of cannibalism. Desperate people do desperate things to survive when there's nothing else available. North Korea routinely throws people, including children, into gulags for whatever reason that can be dreamed up and leave them to starve, if they aren't beaten or tortured to death first for trying to eat dirt or rats.

Should we consider those who cannibalize because of imminent starvation criminals and devils?
 
2013-01-28 04:39:40 AM

NobleHam: The only things stopping us are concerns about Seoul's safety and reluctance on the part of the South to take on the task of modernizing the North, but I think the former is overblown and the latter isn't a very popular excuse among the people in the South, many of whom still have family in the North.


From what I understand, the South is perfectly content to starve the North out. It gets the same job done that a war would do without risking any of their soldiers or risking getting the crap bombed out of Seoul.
 
2013-01-28 04:42:09 AM

log_jammin: SquiggsIN: North Korea is still there give the rest of the world something to fear in regard to their own governments. So long as there is something to fear devolving into, every other society is easy to control. (and is downright pleasant by comparision)

If we wanted to execute the royal family, we could've done so at any time. It doesn't serve our purposes. Our government has to leave at least one standing nutjob nation to justify the billions we dump into foreign entitlements and our defense spending.

(and yes, if they had oil, we'd have finished them off and found a different nutjob nation to fearmonger with)

That it the stupidest conspiracy theory I have ever heard.


Who said it was a theory?
 
2013-01-28 04:44:01 AM

DON.MAC: My BS factor was pegged with GAT_00's story when they mentioned there was no wood for cremation.  It was odd how they mentioned no wood for caskets as well like it was a wild west movie where the undertaker was making the coffins.

If you want to get a group of people to be angry with another country, you have to appeal to the war mongers and the peaceniks and the best way to enrage the second group is with starving children.


??

I won't argue with your interpretation; however, I feel compelled to point out that in times of peace and plenty, it's customary to treat the dead with some dignity and circumspection. In times of famine/war/plague, the dead are usually tossed into holes bare, or with a minimum of wrapping. During the Black Death, for instance, it's possible to determine how bad the plague was in any given area by the way the dead were buried: Caskets meant the plague had not arrived yet, mass pits with shrouds or sheets meant the plague was at its height.

That there was no wood for coffins means that a) the trees have all been cut down and there's nothing left to work with, and b) there are too many dead to bury decently. You might have a little respect for that.
 
2013-01-28 04:45:42 AM

ladyfortuna: We should just start dropping food packages over there from HALO drop height; they may see it coming but they (probably) won't be able to do anything about it. I'm sure we've got plenty of MREs to spare...


Why? We have enough of our own problems to deal with. Once there's nobody starving or freezing to death here, then we can worry about these people.
 
2013-01-28 04:46:34 AM

MayoSlather: Shadowknight: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

Not that you're not right, but don't forget that while China treats them like an unruly stepchild from a forgotten marriage most of the time, they do OFFICIALLY support them. Going in to NK would start WWIII.

Would China really risk a war with the US for NK? The economic ramifications alone would be severe for China, also this would be a war China likely loses. They'd do plenty of grumbling if we invaded NK, but ultimately would back down far before considering a war with the US.


China will use it to wrench diplomatic concessions from the US. Say, we recognize their version of their territorial waters, and in exchange they look the other way while we topple the NK tower of cards.
 
2013-01-28 04:52:26 AM
So that's where the Ring of Namira ended up...
 
2013-01-28 04:53:47 AM

NobleHam: Shadowknight: NobleHam: Shadowknight: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

Not that you're not right, but don't forget that while China treats them like an unruly stepchild from a forgotten marriage most of the time, they do OFFICIALLY support them. Going in to NK would start WWIII.

China doesn't care anymore. They pay lip service to supporting North Korea but if push came to shove, they'd step out of the way. They're not going to fight a war for this giant pain in their ass.

I don't know, man. I can see it being one of those pride and honor situations. I can insult my fat, stupid kid, but that's because he's MY fat stupid kid. Don't YOU dare say he's fat and stupid, though, because thems fightin' words, son.

A lot has changed since 1950, though. The Cold War is over and there's no Soviet Union left for China to side with, they rely on us economically and would really much rather have North Korea open for them to exploit its resources and use its cheap labor. China has been tacitly allowing defections from North Korea for about a decade against the Kim family's will and now has a pretty sizable expat population pushing for liberation. China wouldn't help us out if we decided to do something about NK, and they'd probably send us a strongly worded letter with their disapproval, but we wouldn't have to worry about them actually fighting us. The only things stopping us are concerns about Seoul's safety and reluctance on the part of the South to take on the task of modernizing the North, but I think the former is overblown and the latter isn't a very popular excuse among the people in the South, many of whom still have family in the North.


True enough on all points. I can see the obligatory "official complaints but no real action on China's part. Just sucks that we're likely never going in there because, tactically or economically, we have little to gain.

You know, besides preserving our humanity and stopping people from eating their children, of course.
 
2013-01-28 04:54:47 AM
FTA: Fat Boy built a dolphinarium?

Really?
 
2013-01-28 04:55:06 AM

SquiggsIN: Who said it was a theory?


History.
 
2013-01-28 04:59:13 AM
If they would be a little less, "we will build great missiles and bury you American pig lackey dogs!", and a little more "Um, look, like, our people are eating each other. You think you could help us out with some agriculture, electrical infrastructure and some irrigation techniques?", I'd be the first one over there with some books and a shovel.
 
2013-01-28 05:06:23 AM
Why all the butthurt in this thread? Famine and cannibalism is how nature deals with parasitical tumors like humans.

/every sperm is sacred
//oh noes, some people are eating their offspring! how will we ever reach ten billion at this rate!
 
2013-01-28 05:16:09 AM
Yet more proof of the love of Jesus Christ and the power of the all merciful Lord!
 
2013-01-28 05:21:32 AM
I'm watching M*A*S*H right now so I'm getting a kick out of this story.

Well, not so much a kick as revulsion. To the story not M*A*S*H. I love M*A*S*H.
 
2013-01-28 05:24:01 AM
"North Korean woman and children are dying!! Give us food!!!"

Everybody gotta die sometime.

underscoopfire.com
 
2013-01-28 05:27:45 AM

RabidJade: GUTSU: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

So you are for a war that would cost several times what the iraq and afganistan wars have put together?

We probably have more troops concentrated in SK than most countries have for an army. I imagine the defense forces the SK has mustered by the border isn't cheap either. If a war were to start (rather than the phony/limited war now), it would be quick and SK would probably just absorb NK like West Germany did with East Germany. I think the populations of both sides and the SK government just want the ongoing war to be over. NK will not go down without destruction or mass genocide so we can leave the whole "make peace not war" crap in the hippy section of history.


You honestly think a country whos entire population has been taught from birth that south koreans and americans would butcher, kill, and rape they would accept surrender? Imagine the how hard it was for us to extract the japanese during world war 2, or the vietcong. Now imagine if the vietcong had over 50 years to entrench themselves. Do you have any idea how many lives would be lost on both sides, I shudder to think how many would die if we were to occupy North korea.
 
2013-01-28 05:38:18 AM
This is just too sick for words if it's true. The story about the mother coming home to "meat" and her 2 kids gone is particularly horrifying - I hope she didn't eat any before she realised something was wrong. Nightmare fuel.

On the other hand it's been a common happening in famines throughout history - I have a book here on exactly that subject and I was amazed at how much has been documented even in modern times. People just don't talk about it or report it.

Also - what are the chances that this was propaganda? I am mistrustful because in some ways there are so many separate, lurid tales that even with "citizen journalists" this could be urban legend stuff even if not deliberate lies.

Just my thoughts ... Of course I don't want it to be true ... but I'm also a great believer in people knowing about nasty stuff that does really happen in the world. Trouble is, most of them don't want to know. I've posted this on FaceBook and I'm predicting that some people get pissed off because it's spoiling their dreamy inspirational mottos and artwork experience etc. *sigh*
 
2013-01-28 05:44:52 AM
Power crazed rulers are no surprise.
Cannibalism...not sure if serious.


Especially with family. You'd think people would eat tree bark, rodents anything.
Forgive me if I think this sounds too made up.
 
2013-01-28 05:48:00 AM

Gyrfalcon: That there was no wood for coffins means that a) the trees have all been cut down and there's nothing left to work with, and b) there are too many dead to bury decently. You might have a little respect for that.


Or it could be a PR stunt by one of several governments which I know is more likely than the North Koreans not having enough wood to burn their dead (which I think is the current custom). North Korea has a massive timber supply and it is readily available outside of Pyongyang since they can't get China to import any of it.  Of course that could have been turned into heating wood since NK is colder that most of the US this time of year.  North Korea has had massive starvation in the past and this problem was reported then. I do expect it may have happened in isolated situations but I expect cannibalism is limited to a handful of cases with a bit of exaggeration.  I don't doubt tens of thousands of people have starved to death.  At least 300,000 North Koreans will die this year based on just normal death rates and about 4% of them due to malnutrition isn't that uncommon in poor parts of the world in non-famine conditions.
 
2013-01-28 05:48:58 AM

StashMonster: On the other hand it's been a common happening in famines throughout history - I have a book here on exactly that subject and I was amazed at how much has been documented even in modern times. People just don't talk about it or report it.


Do you have a title of that book?
 
2013-01-28 06:02:51 AM

Resident Muslim: Power crazed rulers are no surprise.
Cannibalism...not sure if serious.


Tyrants have used famine as a weapon before. I can think of a few nations in Africa where this was a common practice. It wouldn't surprise me to see one in Asia (a continent not unfamiliar with genocides) doing the same.

It would surprise me that a people living up in the weeds and without effective governance didn't have a backup plan.
...but this is where I have to remind myself that these dictatorships are like nation sized domestic violence cases. If its a community dependent on grain then its quite easy for soldiers to walk off with the years haul and no one will so much as raise a rake in protest.

Starving people can do horrific things.
 
2013-01-28 06:24:04 AM

Resident Muslim: Power crazed rulers are no surprise.
Cannibalism...not sure if serious.


Especially with family. You'd think people would eat tree bark, rodents anything.
Forgive me if I think this sounds too made up.


Look up the famines in Egypt, China, and Ethiopia. Wince at how things got so bad that parents sold their children into slavery to ensure they wouldn't be eaten, roaming gangs of starving people would kill and eat anyone they ran across, and family members ate whoever died first to try to survive.
 
2013-01-28 06:34:08 AM

way south: Resident Muslim: Power crazed rulers are no surprise.
Cannibalism...not sure if serious.


Tyrants have used famine as a weapon before. I can think of a few nations in Africa where this was a common practice. It wouldn't surprise me to see one in Asia (a continent not unfamiliar with genocides) doing the same.

It would surprise me that a people living up in the weeds and without effective governance didn't have a backup plan.
...but this is where I have to remind myself that these dictatorships are like nation sized domestic violence cases. If its a community dependent on grain then its quite easy for soldiers to walk off with the years haul and no one will so much as raise a rake in protest.

Starving people can do horrific things.


Again, the key word here is Asia.
I understand famine being use by dictators.
I can understand starving to death in Africa or middle east, but countries like NK which are relatively north of the equator tend to be lusher, so I really can't see why you can't 'live off the land' especially if you were a farmer and know your plants.
And by that I mean scavenging, not farming.

What do I know...maybe with a large enough population you'd run out of stuff to scavenge.

/wish humanity the best.
 
2013-01-28 06:38:19 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Rattle sabers. Run horrific stories of starvation. Get food aid.

I've seen this movie before.


My thoughts exactly, except the starvation stories are to humiliate NK to reduce international support.
 
2013-01-28 06:45:28 AM

Resident Muslim: I really can't see why you can't 'live off the land' especially if you were a farmer and know your plants.


I mean this in the nicest way. That comment reeks of ignorance.

There is a reason that hunter gather societies don't expand into populations in the tens of millions.
 
2013-01-28 06:50:36 AM

Resident Muslim: way south: Resident Muslim: Power crazed rulers are no surprise.
Cannibalism...not sure if serious.


Tyrants have used famine as a weapon before. I can think of a few nations in Africa where this was a common practice. It wouldn't surprise me to see one in Asia (a continent not unfamiliar with genocides) doing the same.

It would surprise me that a people living up in the weeds and without effective governance didn't have a backup plan.
...but this is where I have to remind myself that these dictatorships are like nation sized domestic violence cases. If its a community dependent on grain then its quite easy for soldiers to walk off with the years haul and no one will so much as raise a rake in protest.

Starving people can do horrific things.

Again, the key word here is Asia.
I understand famine being use by dictators.
I can understand starving to death in Africa or middle east, but countries like NK which are relatively north of the equator tend to be lusher, so I really can't see why you can't 'live off the land' especially if you were a farmer and know your plants.
And by that I mean scavenging, not farming.

What do I know...maybe with a large enough population you'd run out of stuff to scavenge.

/wish humanity the best.


Your last point is the key.

Land in its natural form can't supply the needs of any meaningfully large population for long. What we have in the west is an artificial production of machinery, irrigation, and chemicals.

If some tard decides to abscond with what little you have when you are already on a subsistence farming scheme, it's a disaster.

/If the norks have been scraping by for the better part of a half century, there's probably nothing left in the wilderness.
 
2013-01-28 06:50:45 AM
OK, so how am I supposed to believe any of this without some tweets or Facebook posts out of NK to back this up?
 
Rat
2013-01-28 06:52:38 AM
Meatloaf again?

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2013-01-28 06:55:38 AM

log_jammin: Resident Muslim: I really can't see why you can't 'live off the land' especially if you were a farmer and know your plants.

I mean this in the nicest way. That comment reeks of ignorance.

There is a reason that hunter gather societies don't expand into populations in the tens of millions.


Hmm.
 
2013-01-28 06:56:14 AM

James F. Campbell: Hmm.


kay...
 
2013-01-28 06:57:53 AM
louisalady.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-28 06:58:49 AM
www.theliberaloc.com
"Meat's meat, and a man's got to eat."
 
2013-01-28 06:59:19 AM
Obviously what they have is too much business, free markets, school choice and not enough government.
 
2013-01-28 07:00:07 AM
Did they eat the man executed by firing squad? Seems like a good waste of meat otherwise.
 
2013-01-28 07:01:40 AM

log_jammin: kay...


I see now what happened. I can't see his original post, probably because he responds to someone that I'm ignoring; I can only see the bit you quoted. Because he was discussing farmers and you were discussing about hunter-gatherer societies, I was initially confused. Carry on.
 
2013-01-28 07:05:33 AM
Oh, so the Pudgy Leader is just as big a piece of shiat as the Dear Leader and the Great Leader.

Got it.
 
2013-01-28 07:07:23 AM
"As I says, 'tis queer haow picters sets ye thinkin'. D'ye know, young Sir, I'm right sot on this un here. Arter I got the book off Ebeneezer I uster look at it a lot, especial when I'd heerd Parson Clark rant o' Sundays. Onct I tried suthin' funny - here, young Sir, don't git skeert - all I done was ter look at the picter afore I kilt the sheep for market - killin' sheep was kinder more fun arter lookin' at it - " The tone of the old man now sank very low, sometimes becoming so faint that his words were hardly audible. I listened to the rain, and to the rattling of the bleared, small-paned windows, and marked a rumbling of approaching thunder quite unusual for the season. Once a terrific flash and peal shook the frail house to its foundations, but the whisperer seemed not to notice it.

"Killin' sheep was kinder more fun - but d'ye know, 'twan't quite satisfyin'. Queer haow a cravin' gits a holt on ye - As ye love the Almighty, young man, don't tell nobody, but I swar ter Gawd thet picter begun to make me hungry fer victuals I couldn't raise nor buy - here, set still, what's ailin' ye? - I didn't do nothin', only I wondered haow 'twud be ef I did - They say meat makes blood an' flesh, an' gives ye new life, so I wondered ef 'twudn't make a man live longer an' longer ef 'twas more the same - "
--H. P. Lovecraft, "The Picture in the House"
 
2013-01-28 07:08:05 AM

James F. Campbell: Because he was discussing farmers and you were discussing about hunter-gatherer societies


I was responding to his idea that famine victims can just "live off the land" if their country is sufficiently "lush". I was pointing out how "living off the land" is not that that easy since, if it was, hunter-gatherer societies(who live off the land) would not be restricted in the size of their communities as they are. i realize it was a very subtle point and all, so don't worry about it.
 
2013-01-28 07:08:31 AM

o5iiawah: Obviously what they have is too much business, free markets, school choice and not enough government.


Oh shut the hell up with that.
 
2013-01-28 07:08:47 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: --H. P. Lovecraft, "The Picture in the House"


I absolutely love that story.
 
2013-01-28 07:09:03 AM
North Korea serves as a living reminder of why we should fear the so-called-progressives on left.
 
2013-01-28 07:10:02 AM

david_gaithersburg: North Korea serves as a living reminder of why we should fear the so-called-progressives on left.


You too. Shut up.
 
2013-01-28 07:11:49 AM

Oznog: Sid_6.7:
Ah, the old our-children-are-missing-but-we-have-plenty-of-meat gambit. I can't say I've never tried it.

If God didn't intend us to eat our children, WHY ARE THEY MADE OF MEAT??



They're made out of meat? Disgusting.
 
2013-01-28 07:12:23 AM
Im convinced we should try this communism thing, seems like it works everywhere else it has been tried
 
2013-01-28 07:13:15 AM
Reminds me of the story that they are killing babies in incubators prior to us going to war.

I don't believe this article that the NK's eat their young and dig up the dead and boil the flesh.

I think the article is interesting and if true, we can help. There are plenty of baby boomers we can feed them.
 
2013-01-28 07:14:47 AM

Shadowknight: david_gaithersburg: North Korea serves as a living reminder of why we should fear the so-called-progressives on left.

You too. Shut up.


No, no, he makes a good point.

Step 1. Try to provide health care for everyone.
Step 2. ZOMG! SOCIALIZMZ!!!!!one1!!!!!
Step 3. ?
Step 4. You find yourself cracking open your neighbor's skull to feast on the tasty goo within.

It's a slippery slope, obviously. You start with a little bit of progressive politics and the next thing you know, the slogan "A sandwich is just a sandwich, but a manwich is a meal," has a whole new meaning.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-28 07:22:06 AM

o5iiawah: Obviously what they have is too much business, free markets, school choice and not enough government.


Yeah, it's a good thing that all the greedy capitalists are in South Korea. Think of how much worse it could be if they were still in North Korea!

Just a question - any word on how many South Koreans are reduced to cannibalism or did the drought stop at the Demilitarized Zone?
 
2013-01-28 07:23:09 AM
This inane article reeks of Jonathan Swift-Boating.
 
2013-01-28 07:25:58 AM

Onkel Buck: Im convinced we should try this communism thing, seems like it works everywhere else it has been tried


It's not communism.
...and I say this as a raging right wing lunatic.

True communism has rarely happened on a scale larger than a few thousand people. More often its the name used to cover up for a single party or autocratic government.
People use alot of pretty words to define these tyrannical monstrosities as if there was some difference. Its always the same nonsense in the end.
A Monarchy without the legitimacy of a bloodline.

/in the norks case where you're following the grandson of the founder, maybe it really is a monarchy.
 
2013-01-28 07:36:15 AM

david_gaithersburg: North Korea serves as a living reminder of why we should fear the so-called-progressives on left.


Ok, I'll bite...
What is a progressive then if people on the left aren't? If you think conservatives are forward thinking you're bat-shiat insane. Based on that statement alone you've already proven yourself to be ignorant.
 
2013-01-28 07:36:46 AM
Knows what human flesh tastes like:

www.facets.org
 
2013-01-28 07:42:35 AM

Harry_Seldon: C18H27NO3: If you could manage to kill a person that ate a person that managed to eat another person who also ate someone you'd end up with some kind of North Korean turducken.

/Sort of

I started to think about your comment, and that is just scary enough to be true. I wonder how prevalent cannabalism is North Korea?

It certainly was a problem in the British Navy at some point.


No, no, they now have the problem relatively under control.
 
2013-01-28 07:44:10 AM
They need to ban guns so their children are safe.
 
2013-01-28 07:45:57 AM

PreMortem: david_gaithersburg: North Korea serves as a living reminder of why we should fear the so-called-progressives on left.

Ok, I'll bite...
What is a progressive then if people on the left aren't? If you think conservatives are forward thinking you're bat-shiat insane. Based on that statement alone you've already proven yourself to be ignorant.


.
A so-called-progressive in incapable of working with other parties, they believe that the only way anything can get done is through one-party rule, i.e. a dictatorship. They also believe that they, and only themselves without input from others, know what is best for everyone else.

Here is a Georgetown University professor who was given air time on CBS last night. Link This nut is a farking tenured professor teaching people!!!!! He believes that the Constitution should be scrapped since it runs counter to his dictatorial fantasies.
 
2013-01-28 07:51:46 AM

NobleHam: So tell me again why the risk to Seoul is too great to justify invading this country and eliminating its leadership?


Well, it depends on if you are comfortable with 500,000-a million casualties in the first hour of conflict or not. Seoul (population 10 million) is well within artillery range of the North's guns that have had 50 years to be built deep into mountains.

Though U.S. and other allies can/would control the skies, the North does have dense (though aging) air defence. Even target strikes would have trouble eliminating the built up and well protected artillery.

Don't get me wrong--- in the end I am certain that a South Korea/U.S./Others force would win over the North (Depending on how China involves themselves or not) but the cost in civilian deaths in the South would be extreme. Even before we consider the horrors of nuclear conflict.
 
WD
2013-01-28 07:53:37 AM
One official said the fields are in such a bad state from drought that he had to avert his eyes

It's dirt, FFS!
 
2013-01-28 07:54:06 AM
Just wait until this leads to a prion-based disease turning North Koreans into zombies.
 
2013-01-28 07:56:00 AM
www.globalpost.com
 
2013-01-28 07:58:44 AM
They need more pylons.
 
2013-01-28 08:00:20 AM
Their next story will be about a cute couple that refuses to work because the gubbmint will give them human flesh for free.

Meanwhile the NK press runs stories about Jeffrey Dahmer to keep their citizens convinced that Americans are savages.
 
2013-01-28 08:08:24 AM

sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.


Yes, antagonize our largest trading partner and debt holder nation, maybe you'd also like us to dip our nuts in all of the Russian vodka to complete your masterpiece of diplomatic nuance? Maybe finger bang the queen and then wipe our fingers on the Magna Carta? What other brilliant ideas do you have that are absolutely guaranteed to piss off allies we shouldn't be pissing off?
 
2013-01-28 08:12:07 AM

sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.


No, you got it all wrong! It wasn't for the oil, but the (dun-dun-DUUUUNNN) WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!! (echo)
 
2013-01-28 08:13:16 AM
This is sadly common in human history. The Chinese, Russians and Ukranian, at the least, have both engaged in cannibalism in the last century due to starvation.
 
2013-01-28 08:17:31 AM

cabbyman: They need to ban guns so their children are safe.


Jesus, did Drew forget to fumigate this weekend?
 
2013-01-28 08:17:37 AM

DON.MAC: My BS factor was pegged with GAT_00's story when they mentioned there was no wood for cremation.  It was odd how they mentioned no wood for caskets as well like it was a wild west movie where the undertaker was making the coffins.


I wouldn't trust those undertakers if I were you.
 
2013-01-28 08:20:41 AM

Shadowknight: NobleHam: Shadowknight: NobleHam: Shadowknight: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy -


Aint gonna' be no war with a nuke owner unless there are compelling interests for the US.

Norks starving, while the same problem exists in the US, (albeit to several factors less) is not enough.
 
2013-01-28 08:21:42 AM
Well, as long as Kim Jong dipshiat is still a big fat pile of crap, that's all that really matters....right?
 
2013-01-28 08:23:48 AM
When even fermented cabbage is impossible to come by, that's a desperate state of affairs.
 
2013-01-28 08:26:03 AM

DamnYankees: This is sadly common in human history. The Chinese, Russians and Ukranian, at the least, have both engaged in cannibalism in the last century due to starvation.


You also forgot about Uruguayan rugby teams.
 
2013-01-28 08:32:47 AM

Gyrfalcon: GAT_00: violentsalvation: GAT_00: So, unconfirmed stories, but from a source considered to be credible.

Dammit that sucks. I was hoping it was BS. But thanks for the links and the text.

It may very well be BS. It's North Korea. How the fark are we supposed to prove anything from there?

But this seems difficult to dream up.

I saw it earlier on an AP feed, and again on CNBC's screen runner. You can take that for what it's worth, but given that that region has a history of horrible famines and horribliler responses, I can totally believe it.


Those would have all come from this source.
 
2013-01-28 08:38:50 AM
could this be some sort of idiot writing exercise? I mean the two headed cow was real, right? I'm sure there's an issue with drought and I'm sure there starving people. Hell, there's starving people in NYC and LA and intellectually starving people in Kansas but I won't get into that one.
My point is, I've seen nothing else on this any where else and certainly not in the mainstream where it would mean extra advertising revenue.

I suspect something's "off"
 
2013-01-28 08:51:49 AM
i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-01-28 08:52:38 AM
Is this really happening or is this article one of the consequences of NK getting all threateny last week.
You threaten us, we leak an article that you eat babies.
 
2013-01-28 08:53:31 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: But an hour later they're hungry again

/close enough


I hear they are all gristle.
 
2013-01-28 08:57:45 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [i49.tinypic.com image 723x537]



Damn it, now you got me hungry for a pot roast.
 
2013-01-28 09:02:49 AM

PunGent: FTA: Fat Boy built a dolphinarium?

Really?


Yup, it did
 
2013-01-28 09:08:05 AM

wildcardjack: [www.tcd.ie image 300x536]


Came to post this, left satisfied. But strangely hungry.
 
2013-01-28 09:10:44 AM
-45 Liberator. Drop those guys in from HALO height as opposed to food packs. Much more fun to watch.
 
2013-01-28 09:17:00 AM
They should pass a mandate that requires a large percentage of their most popular food crop (I'm guessing rice, in this case) be burned for fuel. That's done wonders for food prices in the US! Problem solved!
 
2013-01-28 09:23:39 AM

Evenbiggerknickers: Ugh. And i just watched this movie


If they were Asian it would be an insightful look into life in North Korea.
 
2013-01-28 09:23:55 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: "Killin' sheep was kinder more fun - but d'ye know, 'twan't quite satisfyin'. Queer haow a cravin' gits a holt on ye - As ye love the Almighty, young man, don't tell nobody, but I swar ter Gawd thet picter begun to make me hungry fer victuals I couldn't raise nor buy - here, set still, what's ailin' ye? - I didn't do nothin', only I wondered haow 'twud be ef I did - They say meat makes blood an' flesh, an' gives ye new life, so I wondered ef 'twudn't make a man live longer an' longer ef 'twas more the same - "
--H. P. Lovecraft, "The Picture in the House"


One thing that puzzles me about that story is how the narrator just wandered into the house. I realize it was raining outside but were the mores of that time so different that during a rain storm people just let themselves in?
 
2013-01-28 09:24:03 AM
As an exercise only,

I wonder how long it would take to invade, decimate and control NK. Just with coordinated coalition NATO force only. And what would be the response from China and Russia. Would they let it happen?
 
2013-01-28 09:25:23 AM
CHIIIIIIIRRRRRIIIIIIIIII'S BAAAABBBYYYY BAAAACK RIIIIIIIBS!!!!
 
2013-01-28 09:26:38 AM
Meh, Virginia has been doing this for years.
www.funnysigns.net
 
2013-01-28 09:27:47 AM

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: -45 Liberator. Drop those guys in from HALO height as opposed to food packs. Much more fun to watch.


YES! Think of how many kids would get eaten if the poor sods had a nice single shot .45 to finish the fast little buggers off quicker. Beating them to death with a stick can be very time consuming. Mmmmmmm...consuming.
 
2013-01-28 09:31:30 AM

Lionel Mandrake: They really should vote for a President from a different family.

/I was told NK is a democratic republic


Then why does Boehner keeps calling it a "Democrat Republic"?
 
2013-01-28 09:34:42 AM

DamnYankees: This is sadly common in human history. The Chinese, Russians and Ukranian, at the least, have both engaged in cannibalism in the last century due to starvation.


Donner if I believe you.
 
2013-01-28 09:36:22 AM
Meanwhile in America....
s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-01-28 09:36:45 AM

Shadowknight: cabbyman: They need to ban guns so their children are safe.

Jesus, did Drew forget to fumigate this weekend?


Your mom was in town so people make time for her at the expense of other things...
 
2013-01-28 09:39:15 AM

phrawgh: Yet more proof of the love of Jesus Christ and the power of the all merciful Lord!


North Korea is atheist (I think) and officially bans Christianity. I think you would like it their random atheist troll.
 
2013-01-28 09:47:38 AM
Eating your own children and digging up corpses for food is the most horrible thing that could ever happen. I don't care if a meteor came down and wiped out Australia its still not as bad as that act.

This is it. The pinnacle of grotesque human behavior, nothing can top this. Go ahead, try, it'll still fall short of eating your own children or eating brought up from their grave corpses.
 
2013-01-28 09:53:31 AM
If I had millions of dollars at my disposal I would seriously consider finding a way to kill this person by any means possible including doing it myself, if for no other reason than saving the 100's of thousands that await a slow death by hunger. ergghhh.
 
2013-01-28 09:55:28 AM

tonguedepressor: Eating your own children and digging up corpses for food is the most horrible thing that could ever happen. I don't care if a meteor came down and wiped out Australia its still not as bad as that act.

This is it. The pinnacle of grotesque human behavior, nothing can top this. Go ahead, try, it'll still fall short of eating your own children or eating brought up from their grave corpses.


Oh, I'm sure I could think of some things. For example, I'm not even hungry right now.
 
2013-01-28 10:01:37 AM

Summoner101: They need more pylons.


No No.

That doesn't make sense. If the Norks are anything, they are Zerg. The South Koreans are the Terrans and the US military play the roll of the Protoss.
 
2013-01-28 10:01:54 AM

TheVeryDeadIanMartin: Knows what human flesh tastes like:


Everyone knows we taste like pork.

//Long pork
 
2013-01-28 10:06:03 AM

Shadowknight: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

Not that you're not right, but don't forget that while China treats them like an unruly stepchild from a forgotten marriage most of the time, they do OFFICIALLY support them. Going in to NK would start WWIII.


Governments have historically been Thug States. The ancient kings of Mesopotamia literally "owned" everything under their control, including the people. Except for the gradual erosion of "Divine Right" in the British Isle (the original "trickle down" theory of power), not much has changed through the ages... except for that little experiment in 1776, where the "boss class" tried to create a new concept of Government existing for the benefit of, and controlled by, the citizens.

It's time for the worldwide "boss class" to stop hanging together and start asking hard questions about what is, and is not, a "legitimate" government.

(Note the similarity here to that other reprehensible hierarchy, the Catholic Church and the pedophia issue.)

If I were king.....

Elite commando teams could (perhaps not without casualties) eliminate the top leadership of Thug States. Keep doing so until the new Thug leadership that fills the vacuum gets the message and adopts policies that work towards non-Thug behavior.

Yep. I went there.
 
2013-01-28 10:06:11 AM

tonguedepressor: If I had millions of dollars at my disposal I would seriously consider finding a way to kill this person by any means possible including doing it myself, if for no other reason than saving the 100's of thousands that await a slow death by hunger. ergghhh.


Taking off my Kim Jong-Un hat for a moment...

Consider the difficulty in reuniting East and West Germany. In that case there was only 40 years of separation, and the Soviet Union wasn't as explicitly tyrannical as North Korean's ruling party, there were actually people there who did care for the people. It was much more political and fiefdom (like China) than North Korea's total 1984 implementation.

The East Germans still had some people there who remembered what it was like before. They had educated people (if not many), and they had the potential for economic growth. North Korean's have been left to stagnate for 60+ years with intentional destruction of education and the concept of entrepreneurship. Even in the best case scenario where the oligarchs of NK walked away to go live a life of luxury in Fiji, the entire country of the North would have to be (pardon the term) re-educated, supported, and financed for decades if not an entire century. There really isn't much there that lets them get out of this without massive welfare.

A good example of the problem is a country like Haiti. After the slaves rebelled and threw off the French, the French came back and demanded extreme reparations (yes, the slave owners demanded reparations from the slaves), Haitians were on the hook to France well into the 1960s, paying almost all of their net GDP to France rather than improving their country. The result is that Haiti has nothing much left, and is almost wholly depended on foreign support to avoid horrific famine and warfare. North Korea would be this x1000 as any easily extracted natural resources have already been exploited and sold to enrich the elite. I'm not sure what if anything can be done short of just 'adopting' the entire population.

And that doesn't even begin to scratch the logistics side of ensuring that the people actually get fed even if the world decides to foot the bill.
 
2013-01-28 10:08:25 AM

tonguedepressor: Eating your own children and digging up corpses for food is the most horrible thing that could ever happen. I don't care if a meteor came down and wiped out Australia its still not as bad as that act.

This is it. The pinnacle of grotesque human behavior, nothing can top this. Go ahead, try, it'll still fall short of eating your own children or eating brought up from their grave corpses.


There is one thing worse, and its described in Bloodlands, the book about the horrors in Eastern Europe between 1921 and 1945. It was so grotesque I put the book down for a while. For warning for people who don't want to see it:


*
*
*
*
*

People in the Ukraine were so starving during the Holodomor that at an orphanage, the people running the plan saw a bunch of kids huddled on a bed. When they went to see what they were huddled around, they saw that 5 or 6 boys were eating the legs of another buy, who was still alive. The little boy who was being eaten wasn't resisting - he was actually joining, eating himself.

That - that right there - is the worst thing I've ever heard of.
 
2013-01-28 10:12:16 AM

tonguedepressor: Eating your own children and digging up corpses for food is the most horrible thing that could ever happen. I don't care if a meteor came down and wiped out Australia its still not as bad as that act.

This is it. The pinnacle of grotesque human behavior, nothing can top this. Go ahead, try, it'll still fall short of eating your own children or eating brought up from their grave corpses.


And it will all be blamed on the people who tried to stop it before it got started, instead of the people actually responsible for making this happen.

/because the horror is completely and singularly self-inflicted
//and we can't ever blame the victims, or the victims' chosen leaders
///so we heap more blame on whoever believes in free speech strongly enough to let us falsely accuse them, instead
 
2013-01-28 10:13:39 AM

Tatterdemalian: And it will all be blamed on the people who tried to stop it before it got started, instead of the people actually responsible for making this happen.

/because the horror is completely and singularly self-inflicted
//and we can't ever blame the victims, or the victims' chosen leaders
///so we heap more blame on whoever believes in free speech strongly enough to let us falsely accuse them, instead


What the hell are you talking about.
 
2013-01-28 10:14:11 AM

log_jammin: Resident Muslim: I really can't see why you can't 'live off the land' especially if you were a farmer and know your plants.

I mean this in the nicest way. That comment reeks of ignorance.

There is a reason that hunter gather societies don't expand into populations in the tens of millions.


Not to mention the skill set required.
 
2013-01-28 10:14:27 AM

tonguedepressor: Eating your own children and digging up corpses for food is the most horrible thing that could ever happen. I don't care if a meteor came down and wiped out Australia its still not as bad as that act.

This is it. The pinnacle of grotesque human behavior, nothing can top this. Go ahead, try, it'll still fall short of eating your own children or eating brought up from their grave corpses.


Well...one could make it worse by having sex with the bodies, prior to cooking, to tenderize.

/so sorry...
 
2013-01-28 10:15:08 AM
meanwhile whycome we no find good graphite to help target tailfin in laterest schrud ? we want hit japan.
 
2013-01-28 10:15:33 AM

DamnYankees: tonguedepressor: Eating your own children and digging up corpses for food is the most horrible thing that could ever happen. I don't care if a meteor came down and wiped out Australia its still not as bad as that act.

This is it. The pinnacle of grotesque human behavior, nothing can top this. Go ahead, try, it'll still fall short of eating your own children or eating brought up from their grave corpses.

There is one thing worse, and its described in Bloodlands, the book about the horrors in Eastern Europe between 1921 and 1945. It was so grotesque I put the book down for a while. For warning for people who don't want to see it:


*
*
*
*
*

People in the Ukraine were so starving during the Holodomor that at an orphanage, the people running the plan saw a bunch of kids huddled on a bed. When they went to see what they were huddled around, they saw that 5 or 6 boys were eating the legs of another buy, who was still alive. The little boy who was being eaten wasn't resisting - he was actually joining, eating himself.

That - that right there - is the worst thing I've ever heard of.


I think this one will have to go to the jury. Here it is. Which is worse:

1) Being alive while being eaten and actually joining in of the eating of your own body.

or

2) Letting your child die of hunger or disease and burying them and then later exhuming their rotting corpses and eating them.

We await your verdict.
 
2013-01-28 10:17:00 AM

tonguedepressor: We await your verdict.


I guess I feel like eating a corpse after it has already died isn't really that horrible. It's taboo of course, but its not hurting anyone, and meat is meat. I think willingly eating yourself is 100 times worse.
 
2013-01-28 10:17:27 AM
...would have approved.

serialkillersink.net
 
2013-01-28 10:21:15 AM

DamnYankees: tonguedepressor: We await your verdict.

I guess I feel like eating a corpse after it has already died isn't really that horrible. It's taboo of course, but its not hurting anyone, and meat is meat. I think willingly eating yourself is 100 times worse.


We need to include the emotional equate of digging up and eating your own rotting child into the balance of the decision making.
 
2013-01-28 10:22:01 AM

Rumpertumpskin: ...would have approved.

[serialkillersink.net image 296x320]


This will be about the most disturbing thing you will ever read. You have been warned.Link
 
2013-01-28 10:22:19 AM

Bender The Offender: sminkypinky: The US should invade and impose democracy - you know, like they did in afghanistan, iraq... They were so successful, I'm sure that it would be fine.
Hang on - no oil there - so fukem.

Yes, antagonize our largest trading partner and debt holder nation, maybe you'd also like us to dip our nuts in all of the Russian vodka to complete your masterpiece of diplomatic nuance? Maybe finger bang the queen and then wipe our fingers on the Magna Carta? What other brilliant ideas do you have that are absolutely guaranteed to piss off allies we shouldn't be pissing off?


Um, China is not your largest trading partner. Or even that close...
 
2013-01-28 10:27:28 AM
blsciblogs.baruch.cuny.edu
 
2013-01-28 10:30:24 AM

DamnYankees: Tatterdemalian: And it will all be blamed on the people who tried to stop it before it got started, instead of the people actually responsible for making this happen.

/because the horror is completely and singularly self-inflicted
//and we can't ever blame the victims, or the victims' chosen leaders
///so we heap more blame on whoever believes in free speech strongly enough to let us falsely accuse them, instead

What the hell are you talking about.


I rarely agree with you, but... ditto. What the hell was that about?
 
2013-01-28 10:36:21 AM

tonguedepressor: DamnYankees: tonguedepressor: Eating your own children and digging up corpses for food is the most horrible thing that could ever happen. I don't care if a meteor came down and wiped out Australia its still not as bad as that act.

This is it. The pinnacle of grotesque human behavior, nothing can top this. Go ahead, try, it'll still fall short of eating your own children or eating brought up from their grave corpses.

There is one thing worse, and its described in Bloodlands, the book about the horrors in Eastern Europe between 1921 and 1945. It was so grotesque I put the book down for a while. For warning for people who don't want to see it:


*
*
*
*
*

People in the Ukraine were so starving during the Holodomor that at an orphanage, the people running the plan saw a bunch of kids huddled on a bed. When they went to see what they were huddled around, they saw that 5 or 6 boys were eating the legs of another buy, who was still alive. The little boy who was being eaten wasn't resisting - he was actually joining, eating himself.

That - that right there - is the worst thing I've ever heard of.

I think this one will have to go to the jury. Here it is. Which is worse:

1) Being alive while being eaten and actually joining in of the eating of your own body.

or

2) Letting your child die of hunger or disease and burying them and then later exhuming their rotting corpses and eating them.

We await your verdict.


Number 2 is singular, and could just be a Jeffrey Dahmer type thing. Maybe not, but it's still possible.

Number 1 means that things have gone so far beyond bad that you are so hungry that you would eat yourself. That's not the potential cherry-picking of 'ick' stories to show the worst (which may be due to mental illness), it's showing that it is the situation which is causing EVERYONE to engage.
 
2013-01-28 10:36:23 AM

Matthew Keene: Rumpertumpskin: ...would have approved.

[serialkillersink.net image 296x320]

This will be about the most disturbing thing you will ever read. You have been warned.Link


Ugh. I'm done, I really don't think I want to talk about any of this anymore.
 
2013-01-28 10:36:32 AM

Gergesa: Prank Call of Cthulhu: "Killin' sheep was kinder more fun - but d'ye know, 'twan't quite satisfyin'. Queer haow a cravin' gits a holt on ye - As ye love the Almighty, young man, don't tell nobody, but I swar ter Gawd thet picter begun to make me hungry fer victuals I couldn't raise nor buy - here, set still, what's ailin' ye? - I didn't do nothin', only I wondered haow 'twud be ef I did - They say meat makes blood an' flesh, an' gives ye new life, so I wondered ef 'twudn't make a man live longer an' longer ef 'twas more the same - "
--H. P. Lovecraft, "The Picture in the House"

One thing that puzzles me about that story is how the narrator just wandered into the house. I realize it was raining outside but were the mores of that time so different that during a rain storm people just let themselves in?


Frequently yes. It's not that outdated in some parts of North America today. When I was growing up in New Brunswick, a law was still on the books saying it was illegal to lock a camp in the deep woods. The reason? Someone might need to take shelter in a deaperate situation.
 
2013-01-28 10:38:08 AM

DamnYankees: tonguedepressor: We await your verdict.

I guess I feel like eating a corpse after it has already died isn't really that horrible. It's taboo of course, but its not hurting anyone, and meat is meat. I think willingly eating yourself is 100 times worse.


Concur. Eating someone that has died, from the perspective of literal harm, there is no victim. It could be worse, if the person wasn't dead at the time, and in the second case, the person who wasn't dead didn't even care that they were being killed because it was so bad.
 
2013-01-28 10:41:13 AM

Evenbiggerknickers: Ugh. And i just watched this movie
[www.examiner.com image 400x268]


I'm reading the book, it's horrifying.
 
2013-01-28 11:08:17 AM

TV's Vinnie: I kinda see a "Reagan Doctrine" in the works here.

Make Best Korea spend a buttload of money on rocket launches until they eventually run out of money after China finally cuts them off. Fatt Dingdongs ends up being deposed (and eaten), and all those refugees start spilling across the borders into China (which serves Bejing right after all these decades).


Really? That's the Reagan doctrine? Because it sounds an awful lot like the Osama Bin Ladin Doctrine where the U.S. spends itself into recession fighting the war on "terror." Bonus: we invade Iraq for no discernible reason.
 
2013-01-28 11:21:09 AM

david_gaithersburg: North Korea serves as a living reminder of why we should fear the so-called-progressives on left.


Those poor sots in Sweden and Norway. If they only knew that they were a few decades away from cannibalism.

BTW. I thought the right-wing talking point was that Greece was where we were headed. Is Greece just a midpoint on the way to NK?
 
2013-01-28 11:24:26 AM

Kevin72: Befuddled: F*ck China. They keep the house of horrors known as North Korea going. If China wanted to put an end to this evil insanity, they could do it in a month but they won't because China is just as evil a North Korea, just with more resources.

The Communist in China have turned everything they've touched into fark. The Korean War gave us this. You can thank them for the Khmer Rouge. For ruining Tibet. For supporting the Godawful junta in Burma which may have finally come to its senses. Not to mention screwing up Mainland China's businesses, religions, even ruined the Chinese characters by simplifying them but the kids still have to learn the traditional characters.


The rise of the Khmer Rouge was a joint Chinese/American effort.
 
2013-01-28 11:41:25 AM

Evenbiggerknickers: Ugh. And i just watched this movie
[www.examiner.com image 400x268]


I thought I saw that movie but it turns out I was just staring at a grey wall for 90 minutes.
 
2013-01-28 11:47:27 AM

Moopy Mac: Kevin72: Befuddled: F*ck China. They keep the house of horrors known as North Korea going. If China wanted to put an end to this evil insanity, they could do it in a month but they won't because China is just as evil a North Korea, just with more resources.

The Communist in China have turned everything they've touched into fark. The Korean War gave us this. You can thank them for the Khmer Rouge. For ruining Tibet. For supporting the Godawful junta in Burma which may have finally come to its senses. Not to mention screwing up Mainland China's businesses, religions, even ruined the Chinese characters by simplifying them but the kids still have to learn the traditional characters.

The rise of the Khmer Rouge was a joint Chinese/American effort.


Then that's even worse. They lured us into their clusterfark.
 
2013-01-28 11:55:24 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Kevin72: Befuddled: F*ck China. They keep the house of horrors known as North Korea going. If China wanted to put an end to this evil insanity, they could do it in a month but they won't because China is just as evil a North Korea, just with more resources.

The Communist in China have turned everything they've touched into fark. The Korean War gave us this. You can thank them for the Khmer Rouge. For ruining Tibet. For supporting the Godawful junta in Burma which may have finally come to its senses. Not to mention screwing up Mainland China's businesses, religions, even ruined the Chinese characters by simplifying them but the kids still have to learn the traditional characters.

All I have to say is it is so sad the communist ruined China since everything was so good before them.


1930s China was not so bad compared to the rest of the world, except for the damned Japanese incursions. Remember that the USA had the Depression and the Dust Bowl. Europe was also in depression and Germany well you know. In the early to mid part of the century, Robert Ripley travelled the world seeking stories for his wildly popular Believe it or Not. He always said China was his favorite spot in the whole world. He would not have said that if it were some kind of hellhole.
 
2013-01-28 12:00:38 PM

Harry_Seldon: Kevin72: The Communist in China have turned everything they've touched into fark. The Korean War gave us this

I thought we blamed MacArthur for the whole Korean mess?


We wouldn't have had a Korean War to blame on MacArthur without Mao Mao Mao Mao* training snd arming Young-One's grandfather.

*sung to the tune of the old Meow Mix commercial
 
2013-01-28 12:06:53 PM

Summoner101: They need more pylons.


p.twimg.com

No, no, minerals are what's required.
 
2013-01-28 12:29:40 PM

HailRobonia: Evenbiggerknickers: Ugh. And i just watched this movie
[www.examiner.com image 400x268]

I thought I saw that movie but it turns out I was just staring at a grey wall for 90 minutes.


Then you got a much more exciting story.
 
2013-01-28 12:42:25 PM
Soylent yellow...
 
2013-01-28 01:08:11 PM

jaybeezey: Mayhem of the Black Underclass: -45 Liberator. Drop those guys in from HALO height as opposed to food packs. Much more fun to watch.

YES! Think of how many kids would get eaten if the poor sods had a nice single shot .45 to finish the fast little buggers off quicker. Beating them to death with a stick can be very time consuming. Mmmmmmm...consuming.


Well the plan really would have been to send these over the Prison/Farms that these people work on (I guess it's the farm part that really irks me, I mean, they know where the food is coming from, then they get to watch as Prison Guards take it away) So the line of reasoning was, if you arm the farmers to the level of the prison guards, they'll have the ability to refuse to give the crops away?

I don't know, what were you thinking?
 
2013-01-28 01:09:25 PM

Befuddled: F*ck China. They keep the house of horrors known as North Korea going. If China wanted to put an end to this evil insanity, they could do it in a month but they won't because China is just as evil a North Korea, just with more resources.


How is this China's fault when every single country in the region from Russia to Japan to South Korea to US wants to keep the status quo?

China wants the status quo because it doesn't want millions of refugees pouring into its borders, the South Koreans wants the status quo because incorporating North Korea would be a tremendous economic burden, the US wants the status quo because there is no political will for military action after two decade long wars. Russia and Japan could not care less about what happens to North Korea as long as the situation is not nuclear.

Truth is that NK is a can of worms that nobody wants to touch, As long as the regime remains stable, half the country can starve and nothing will be done.
 
2013-01-28 01:32:21 PM
imageshack.us
 
2013-01-28 01:37:39 PM

phrawgh: Dinner is served.

[t1.gstatic.com image 275x183]


Ms. Lovett's Fresh Bulgogi?
 
2013-01-28 02:08:23 PM
Meanwhile in 'murica.
cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2013-01-28 02:22:29 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-28 02:37:59 PM

david_gaithersburg: North Korea serves as a living reminder of why we should fear the so-called-progressives on left.


Comming soon to America, Obama games!
 
2013-01-28 02:43:12 PM
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. It just sounds so sensationalist.
 
2013-01-28 02:53:14 PM

ladyfortuna: We should just start dropping food packages over there from HALO drop height; they may see it coming but they (probably) won't be able to do anything about it. I'm sure we've got plenty of MREs to spare...


THIS.

/Invading won't work, but airlifting food? That, that is a use of our money I would approve of.
 
2013-01-28 03:07:55 PM

SpaceBison: Meanwhile in 'murica.
cdn.ebaumsworld.com


I've read that a lot of people who escape N. Korea and resettle in the south end up with severe weight management issues.  Its like they're stuck in starvation prevention mode.
 
2013-01-28 03:21:41 PM

kim jong-un: DamnYankees: tonguedepressor: We await your verdict.

I guess I feel like eating a corpse after it has already died isn't really that horrible. It's taboo of course, but its not hurting anyone, and meat is meat. I think willingly eating yourself is 100 times worse.

Concur. Eating someone that has died, from the perspective of literal harm, there is no victim. It could be worse, if the person wasn't dead at the time, and in the second case, the person who wasn't dead didn't even care that they were being killed because it was so bad.


Wait, someday you may have kids and then you'll see it my way I promise.
 
2013-01-28 03:41:28 PM

david_gaithersburg: PreMortem: david_gaithersburg: North Korea serves as a living reminder of why we should fear the so-called-progressives on left.

Ok, I'll bite...
What is a progressive then if people on the left aren't? If you think conservatives are forward thinking you're bat-shiat insane. Based on that statement alone you've already proven yourself to be ignorant.

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A so-called-progressive in incapable of working with other parties, they believe that the only way anything can get done is through one-party rule, i.e. a dictatorship. They also believe that they, and only themselves without input from others, know what is best for everyone else.

Here is a Georgetown University professor who was given air time on CBS last night. Link This nut is a farking tenured professor teaching people!!!!! He believes that the Constitution should be scrapped since it runs counter to his dictatorial fantasies.


Sounds like how conservatives think, too. And they're worse about it, they say they want smaller government then demand government be in women's uteruses and people's bedrooms. They also want a Christian dictatorship, completely ignoring separation of church and state.

And would you make up your mind about where "progressive socialism" will take America? Is it the USSR, Greece, or North Korea? You guys can never make up your minds about anything.
 
2013-01-28 04:13:50 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: They also want a Christian dictatorship, completely ignoring separation of church and state


I was just pointing out in another thread how the Texas Revolution was started in small part by Mexico's requirement that all settlers adopt Catholicism.

I wonder how the Southern Baptists would have felt of Kennedy made Catholicism or Romney had made Mormonism the state religion.  Or fark it, we just return to the beginning with the Anglican Church.  Very much a "be careful of what you wish for, as you may not always be in power".
 
2013-01-28 04:42:55 PM

SpaceBison: Meanwhile in 'murica.
[cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 409x289]


You mean "Meanwhile in the nation of Georgia"

Look on the sign in the window... that ain't English.
 
2013-01-28 05:09:36 PM
If true, that's quite sickening. Perhaps not surprising in any impoverished location.

Also, here is the Giant Squid song documenting a likewise act in the ocean. Sleep well, my rich brothers and sisters. May we someday see our trifles in a different light. May our children know a better world.

/don't look back now for ages
//your mother's toothy smile can smell you for miles
///in times of need it must be done
////you too will eat your young
//from womb to gut it has begun
 
2013-01-28 06:00:33 PM

kim jong-un: 2) Letting your child die of hunger or disease and burying them and then later exhuming their rotting corpses and eating them.

We await your verdict.

Number 2 is singular, and could just be a Jeffrey Dahmer type thing. Maybe not, but it's still possible.


Before refrigeration, it was common to bury large animals to preserve their meat so it could be eaten latter.  Some animals like cats have been doing that for a very long time.
 
2013-01-28 06:23:43 PM
"...I wouldn't eat the filthy mf'er"
-Jules
 
2013-01-28 06:32:18 PM

Mad_Radhu: [blsciblogs.baruch.cuny.edu image 750x494]


upload.wikimedia.org
 
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2013-01-28 07:14:19 PM
 
2013-01-28 07:22:36 PM

Resident Muslim: way south: Resident Muslim: Power crazed rulers are no surprise.
Cannibalism...not sure if serious.


Tyrants have used famine as a weapon before. I can think of a few nations in Africa where this was a common practice. It wouldn't surprise me to see one in Asia (a continent not unfamiliar with genocides) doing the same.

It would surprise me that a people living up in the weeds and without effective governance didn't have a backup plan.
...but this is where I have to remind myself that these dictatorships are like nation sized domestic violence cases. If its a community dependent on grain then its quite easy for soldiers to walk off with the years haul and no one will so much as raise a rake in protest.

Starving people can do horrific things.

Again, the key word here is Asia.
I understand famine being use by dictators.
I can understand starving to death in Africa or middle east, but countries like NK which are relatively north of the equator tend to be lusher, so I really can't see why you can't 'live off the land' especially if you were a farmer and know your plants.
And by that I mean scavenging, not farming.

What do I know...maybe with a large enough population you'd run out of stuff to scavenge.

/wish humanity the best.


Actually, the Korean Peninsula's north is mountainous while its south has been the traditional rice bowl. It is far from a lush area. The World Bank reported 2.65 million hectares of arable land to feed 24 million people, or about 0.11 hectare per capita. Still, other countries that feed their people make do on less: China makes do on 0.08 hectare per capita and the ratio in Japan is 0.04 hectare per capita.
 
2013-01-28 07:49:15 PM

PsiChick: ladyfortuna: We should just start dropping food packages over there from HALO drop height; they may see it coming but they (probably) won't be able to do anything about it. I'm sure we've got plenty of MREs to spare...

THIS.

/Invading won't work, but airlifting food? That, that is a use of our money I would approve of.


Nope. Because the government will claim they sent it.
 
2013-01-28 08:18:57 PM
So, the canibal they executed - did they eat him?
 
2013-01-28 08:31:55 PM

SpaceBison: Meanwhile in 'murica.
[cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 409x289]


Nice try, but look at the ad on the window.
 
2013-01-28 08:38:37 PM

namegoeshere: So, the canibal they executed - did they eat him?


His just desserts.
 
2013-01-28 09:15:21 PM

jayphat: PsiChick: ladyfortuna: We should just start dropping food packages over there from HALO drop height; they may see it coming but they (probably) won't be able to do anything about it. I'm sure we've got plenty of MREs to spare...

THIS.

/Invading won't work, but airlifting food? That, that is a use of our money I would approve of.

Nope. Because the government will claim they sent it.


Worse, they'll shoot down any planes (even ICRC planes) that try, and capture the pilots to use as bargaining chips (for weapons and ICBM construction materials, not food).

/unless the peasants find them before the military does
//then they'll be used as food
 
2013-01-29 07:54:16 AM

tonguedepressor: kim jong-un: DamnYankees: tonguedepressor: We await your verdict.

I guess I feel like eating a corpse after it has already died isn't really that horrible. It's taboo of course, but its not hurting anyone, and meat is meat. I think willingly eating yourself is 100 times worse.

Concur. Eating someone that has died, from the perspective of literal harm, there is no victim. It could be worse, if the person wasn't dead at the time, and in the second case, the person who wasn't dead didn't even care that they were being killed because it was so bad.

Wait, someday you may have kids and then you'll see it my way I promise.


Don't promise what you can't deliver.
 
2013-01-29 08:48:09 AM

kim jong-un: tonguedepressor: kim jong-un: DamnYankees: tonguedepressor: We await your verdict.

I guess I feel like eating a corpse after it has already died isn't really that horrible. It's taboo of course, but its not hurting anyone, and meat is meat. I think willingly eating yourself is 100 times worse.

Concur. Eating someone that has died, from the perspective of literal harm, there is no victim. It could be worse, if the person wasn't dead at the time, and in the second case, the person who wasn't dead didn't even care that they were being killed because it was so bad.

Wait, someday you may have kids and then you'll see it my way I promise.

Don't promise what you can't deliver.


Sage my friend, you may never have kids.
 
2013-01-29 10:35:01 AM
It'll just make the boss fight that much harder
www.gamedynamo.com
"You......ate......meeeeeeeee"

/For those who do not know, if you kill a guard, wait for a vulture to eat his body, and then kill and eat the vulture, the dead guy's ghost does not think too highly of it.
 
2013-01-29 10:51:16 AM

SpaceBison: Meanwhile in 'murica.
[cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 409x289]


Except that, no, it's not.
Check out the bigmac poster on the window. It's not in English.
 
2013-01-29 12:42:37 PM
"Throw down all your silver spoons,
Eat all of your raw meat with your hands.
---Pick it up piece by piece
---Pick it up piece by piece,
Where are the bodies for dinner?
I want my food!

What if you were starving to death
And the only food you had was me?
What would you say to the cannibal question
Would your answer be perfectly free?

Your mother told you never
To eat your friends with your fingers and hands
But I say you ought to eat what you will,
Stuff it in your mouth any way you can.

Where are the bodies for dinner?
I want my food!"

----------JEFFERSON STARSHIP
 
2013-01-29 01:01:46 PM
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