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(Daily Mail)   Cops arrest girl for being drunk and disorderly, hold her in cell for 10 hours and then drag her to court. Joke is on them, she wasn't drunk, just autistic   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 36
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2013-01-28 12:33:34 AM
3 votes:

fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts

Oh for F*CK'S sake.. Sue the shiat out of them.


Agreed. I was willing to be slightly amused till I read that part.

There really ought to be more tests to become a cop. Maybe set the IQ bar just a bit higher, and get rid of the thugs.
2013-01-28 12:18:33 AM
3 votes:
police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts

Oh for F*CK'S sake.. Sue the shiat out of them.
2013-01-28 06:12:53 AM
2 votes:
The problem with these cases is that the cops KNOW 100% they screwed up, but instead of doing the right thing apologizing profusely, having those responsible resign and awarding reasonable compensation, the scumbags always FIGHT the charges and close ranks.

Cops, this is one of the main reasons why reasonably-thinking people hate your guts. You never take responsibility when your people screw up. You are taking the moral low road her. You appear to be uncaring cold-blooded beasts with zero conscience.

Fark you all
2013-01-28 04:01:37 AM
2 votes:

Yogimus: If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.


RTFA. She didn't go all "tard rage". She was assaulted by a drunken women and was so upset that she was hysterical & crying. For some reason that made the cops think she was drunk. Her mother told the officers the young woman was autistic & they ignored her. A doctor at the police station confirmed she wasn't drunk, yet she was still unlawfully kept in custody.
2013-01-28 02:02:26 AM
2 votes:
So did the police keep the fingerprints and DNA? Did they destroy her records?

No mention of it in the article. Would sue to have that taken care of.
2013-01-28 01:19:39 AM
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: She belongs in an institution. And although prison is an institution, I'm thinking something more likely to keep her sedated and in a position where she can't hurt others.


Yeah, because she was so dangerous when she was knocked down and stomped on by someone who actually was drunk.

///autism threads are great for beefing my my ignore list
2013-01-28 01:08:36 AM
2 votes:
Whether or not she had autism is totally irrelevant to this story. She wasn't drunk. They held her for ten hours and then charged her anyway after finding out she wasn't drunk. This would be an appalling and disgusting story if she was just an ordinary person, or if she had diabetes or if she had a brain tumor.

It's that the cops (and the courts) can't admit they made a mistake, is all.
2013-01-28 01:02:55 AM
2 votes:

fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts

Oh for F*CK'S sake.. Sue the shiat out of them.


This problem could quickly be solved if the prosecutor and the arresting officers were taken out back and hung. Their replacements will be a bit more careful.
2013-01-28 12:29:30 AM
2 votes:
But she could still have been "DISORDERLY", right?
2013-01-28 12:28:29 AM
2 votes:
owstarr.com
Autism...is there anything it CAN'T do?
2013-01-28 02:45:30 PM
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Kevin72: I heard they had a machine called a breathalyzer that police routinely use to analyze the percentage of alcohol in a person's bloodstream based on how much alcohol is in their breath, and they use it all the time to measure how much alcohol a suspected drunk driver is intoxicated with. I realize that this girl was not driving. But my question is could the police have nonetheless used the breathalyzer on a nondriving person under suspicion of alcohol intoxication? I'm sure test would have worked equally well for a non-motorist.

Or she may have just been shouting and acting crazy and they subdued her. Obviously the drinking charge won't stick, but the disorderly conduct probably will.


Well, no, she and a friend intervened to stop an  actually drunk woman from  attacking a salesperson, after which she was crying. So the autistic girl acted to protect someone else and was farking arrested for it.

I understand doing a quick breathalyzer--certainly if you're a total moron it's understandable to think a disabled person whose disability isn't visible might be just drunk--but once they knew, why the fark they didn't release her is beyond me.
2013-01-28 11:57:25 AM
1 votes:

arghyematey: I've worked at 2 major theme parks and have dealt with thousands of people a day. I've still encountered only a handful of severely autistic kids, but the few that I have met have changed my view of autism. I feel for families that have been dealt that card.


I am still 'new' to this thing I guess, since my kid is only 9 (low functioning autism). But, I really don't feel like a victim. I mean, things are different, but they are manageable. Once you know the short list of things he needs to be content, he's really better behaved than most normal kids in most situations. He won't ask for stuff in stores. You take him to a restaurant, plop the iPad in front of him, order him a hamburger and corn, and he metaphorically vanishes for an hour. He's not as flexible as a normal child and he won't be verbally bullied into doing anything, but he is just so damn easy to please once you have the instruction book. I've told many people on many occasions I would be delighted to have another autistic kid. I love that ball of crazy and, again, he's just so easy to handle. If they are going to end up somewhere, I'd rather it be with me than someone who WOULD feel like a victim because it reflects back on the kid.

On that note, we do not trust him with anyone to babysit or such. You HAVE to know him to get those results. He'd terrorize anyone that isn't familiar with how he ticks. It's very simple to keep him happy, but it's like putting a square peg in a round hole - it doesn't make sense. People try to treat him like a normal kid and it doesn't work. His parenting guide is totally different, but a lot smaller.

He doesn't care for zoos. They bore him. I imagine a theme park would be the same. I can see him doing a lot of staring at the ground, groaning, and jerking around ... basically, we know better than to take him to a theme park because he'd hate it. Just being outside in the bright sun or heat. No iPad will fix it. Maybe the kids you see making a scene feel the same way. The only thing he liked at the zoo was the old fashioned water wheel. He loves falling water. *shrug*
2013-01-28 11:38:51 AM
1 votes:

LoneWolf343: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger%27s_Syndrome

"Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome or Asperger disorder, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests."

You should check things more often, I suppose.


This is actually a key problem with the way autism diagnosis are classified. Autism is one of the 6 or so classifications in the ASD ... to be clear ... "autism" and "autism spectrum disorder" are two different things. Under the ASD are several classifications, such as Fragile-X syndrome, Aspergers, NOS-PDD, and Autism itself. A lot of people call ASD simply 'autism' for whatever reason, but make no mistake that 'Autism' is also a diagnosis and not just a classification. My 9 year old son has it. Last I checked, there was like a 1 in 2000 chance of a child developing Autism (not an ASD classification, but autism itself). If you include the entire ASD, it's closer to 1 in 100. There's a 1 in 100 chance a child will have one of the following: Aspergers, NOS-PDD, Fragile-X, Autism, and whatever else is on the spectrum these days. 1 in 150 if it's a girl.

The original poster was correct - Autism is not Aspergers .... but Autism Spectrum Disorder is ... it's just terribly wording that will be rectified in DSM 5, as someone mentioned. No one here was right or wrong. Just a lot of misunderstanding because 'ASD' should never have been shortened to 'Autism' by anyone since Autism was a thing in itself.
2013-01-28 07:26:25 AM
1 votes:

BummerDuck: There really ought to be more tests to become a cop. Maybe set the IQ bar just a bit higher, and get rid of the thugs.


I was just watching this last night:

media.hiponline.com

"And speaking of tough guys, I'm getting a little tired of hearing that after six policemen got arrested for shoving a floor lamp up some black guy's ass, and ripping his intestines out, the police department announces they're gonna have 'sensitivity training'. I say: hey, if you need special training to be told not to jam a large cumbersome object up someone's asshole, maybe you're too farked up to be on the police force in the first place. You know what they ought to do? They ought to have two new requirements for being on the police: Intelligence and decency. You never can tell, it might just work, it certainly hasn't been tried yet."
2013-01-28 07:04:43 AM
1 votes:
veggiemacabre.files.wordpress.com
2013-01-28 06:27:40 AM
1 votes:
Always hearing the argument, "Well that's just a few bad apples making us all look bad" as far as police are concerned.
But then you hear a new story about more police doing jacked up shiat every other day.
You know what? It's not a couple bad apples, it's not a few. It's a lot. A LOT.
I wouldn't put it past any cop to do something nefarious if they thought they could get away with it or keep the department out of hot water.
There will be another story here soon, and then another, Ad infinitum.

fark `em.
2013-01-28 06:08:50 AM
1 votes:

Yogimus: If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.


You've never met anybody that is on the high end of the autism spectrum, have you?

I've worked at 2 major theme parks and have dealt with thousands of people a day. I've still encountered only a handful of severely autistic kids, but the few that I have met have changed my view of autism. I feel for families that have been dealt that card.
2013-01-28 05:41:51 AM
1 votes:

PreMortem: /CSB

My 60yr old uncle had a diabetic episode while driving and crashed into another car. Cops assumed he was drunk (hasn't had a drop in 50+ years) and since he was combative (saying who are you) they decided to forcibly remove him from the wrecked car, breaking his leg and landing several punches in the process.

Lawsuit against the P.D. and Chief who was landing said punches ensued, awarded $2k in federal court.

Fark the police.


There was a cop that I used to occasionally hang out with (was a friend of a friend) and he would regale us with stories about how thrilled he was when he was able to use force. He was so happy the first time he used his taser gun, which was essentially used because someone was mouthing off to him. These guys get a cop boner when they have an excuse to use force. There are rarely repercussions and even when something does make it to court it's mostly your word vs theirs, and believe it or not cops tend to bend the truth to fit into a plausible narrative quite often.
2013-01-28 04:46:42 AM
1 votes:

Enemabag Jones: The law is the law.

It is up to the police to make the arrests and the courts to go from there.


So what law did the autistic woman broke?
2013-01-28 01:55:46 AM
1 votes:
Miss Jones, who is studying bakery at college

She can bake to potato?
2013-01-28 01:47:50 AM
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: YOU'RE ALL GOING ON MY IGNORE LIST TODAY


how do you enjoy fark if you don't read the idiotic stuff? that's the best stuff.
2013-01-28 01:29:53 AM
1 votes:

FedExPope: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism

That's just a matter of degrees. Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder.


Well, Aspergers isn't autism until DSM5. Then we're all autistic.
2013-01-28 01:24:07 AM
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey


DSM V is reorganizing the diagnoses so all autism spectrum disorders are, well, autism spectrum disorder. Including Asberger's, which will no longer be a separately named diagnosis -- it will be under ASD.
2013-01-28 01:22:21 AM
1 votes:
YOU'RE ALL GOING ON MY IGNORE LIST TODAY
2013-01-28 01:05:17 AM
1 votes:
If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.
2013-01-28 01:02:38 AM
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey


Asperger's falls under the ASD (autism spectrum disorder) umbrella, albeit at the high functioning end of the spectrum.
2013-01-28 01:01:47 AM
1 votes:

FedExPope: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism

That's just a matter of degrees. Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder.


Especially since there is no more Dx of Aspergers and it is all Autism now. DSM 5 FTW
2013-01-28 01:01:08 AM
1 votes:
I heard they had a machine called a breathalyzer that police routinely use to analyze the percentage of alcohol in a person's bloodstream based on how much alcohol is in their breath, and they use it all the time to measure how much alcohol a suspected drunk driver is intoxicated with. I realize that this girl was not driving. But my question is could the police have nonetheless used the breathalyzer on a nondriving person under suspicion of alcohol intoxication? I'm sure test would have worked equally well for a non-motorist.
2013-01-28 12:58:49 AM
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism


That's just a matter of degrees. Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder.
2013-01-28 12:56:58 AM
1 votes:
I know we've got our own issues but I'm I the only one thankfully I don't live in England every time I read a story about overly intrusive government and overly legislated society?

/bad teeth and ugly woman are the least of their problems,
2013-01-28 12:47:20 AM
1 votes:

super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.


Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey
2013-01-28 12:44:26 AM
1 votes:

msupf: Wow, the court wouldn't even admit they made a mistake when dropping the case.

Asshattery to a high degree.


Well, that hurts their numbers if they just let people go. Gotta get that conviction rate up so your superiors can see you are doing a good job and you can get that promotion. Thats how it works here with the DA's office (winning% means everything) and NYPD (faking compstat numbers so LTs and such can get bumped up)
2013-01-28 12:42:31 AM
1 votes:
Oopsie!  Lawsuit coming in short order I'd assume...
2013-01-28 12:41:44 AM
1 votes:
I'd love to know how much money BS like this costs the taxpayers in lawsuits against the police each year. Must be a fortune.
2013-01-28 12:34:35 AM
1 votes:
Wow, the court wouldn't even admit they made a mistake when dropping the case.

Asshattery to a high degree.
2013-01-28 12:33:25 AM
1 votes:
Criminalizing autism? I knew the private prison industry was looking for fresh meat, but that seems a bit excessive.

/DNRTFA
 
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