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(Daily Mail)   Cops arrest girl for being drunk and disorderly, hold her in cell for 10 hours and then drag her to court. Joke is on them, she wasn't drunk, just autistic   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 110
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2013-01-28 02:45:30 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Kevin72: I heard they had a machine called a breathalyzer that police routinely use to analyze the percentage of alcohol in a person's bloodstream based on how much alcohol is in their breath, and they use it all the time to measure how much alcohol a suspected drunk driver is intoxicated with. I realize that this girl was not driving. But my question is could the police have nonetheless used the breathalyzer on a nondriving person under suspicion of alcohol intoxication? I'm sure test would have worked equally well for a non-motorist.

Or she may have just been shouting and acting crazy and they subdued her. Obviously the drinking charge won't stick, but the disorderly conduct probably will.


Well, no, she and a friend intervened to stop an  actually drunk woman from  attacking a salesperson, after which she was crying. So the autistic girl acted to protect someone else and was farking arrested for it.

I understand doing a quick breathalyzer--certainly if you're a total moron it's understandable to think a disabled person whose disability isn't visible might be just drunk--but once they knew, why the fark they didn't release her is beyond me.
 
2013-01-28 03:30:45 PM
i.telegraph.co.uk

www.newstruth.co.uk

Ahh the UK, the land of no firearms, no violence, and peaceful free people. If only the we in the U.S could be more like them!
 
2013-01-28 03:57:41 PM

Raoul Eaton: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey

DSM V is reorganizing the diagnoses so all autism spectrum disorders are, well, autism spectrum disorder. Including Asberger's, which will no longer be a separately named diagnosis -- it will be under ASD.


You are the first one so far to actually understand what I was getting at.
 
2013-01-28 04:00:52 PM

Enemabag Jones: Freschel
Enemabag Jones: The law is the law.
It is up to the police to make the arrests and the courts to go from there.
So what law did the autistic woman broke?

Disrespecting an officer.

Why didn't she just show some basic respect to the officer, and then things would work out fine.

/Cops just enforce the law, it isn't like law enforcement is a job where you have to deal with people first.


It's not against the law to disrespect police officers.

/so fark 'em
 
2013-01-28 04:06:27 PM

LoneWolf343: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger%27s_Syndrome

"Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome or Asperger disorder, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests."

You should check things more often, I suppose.


You should try the current DSM, not Wikipedia.
 
2013-01-28 04:07:13 PM

friday13: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey
KINDA douchey?


I was trying to put it kindly to the douchebag.
 
2013-01-28 06:33:10 PM

arghyematey: You've never met anybody that is on the high end of the autism spectrum, have you?


Hi my name is BlaqueKatt and I am autistic(on the high-functioning end of the spectrum). And Fark+a few other message boards is the entirety of my social interaction, neurotypicals don't like my kind much in person, here I seem normal. Yay!
 
2013-01-28 06:39:11 PM

MagicMissile: [i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x400]

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Ahh the UK, the land of no firearms, no violence, and peaceful free people. If only the we in the U.S could be more like them!


cdn.theatlantic.com

Swings and roundabouts.
 
2013-01-28 07:02:06 PM

JPSimonetti:
Just a lot of misunderstanding because 'ASD' should never have been shortened to 'Autism' by anyone since Autism was a thing in itself.


ASD is the "umbrella" diagnosis(and usually not considered an "actual diagnosis"), similar to calling your car a "toyota", but there are numerous types of toyotas(camry, rav4,corolla), just as there are numerous types of Autism. Most things in the DSM have an "umbrella" and a further category, and most just use the umbrella term without the disorder tag(bipolar, depression, schizophrenia), or further delineation to avoid having to go into lengthy explanations. for example, If I say I have cyclothymia(I don't, this is just an example), very few people would understand what that means, it's a form of bipolar disorder, so I'd just say I have bipolar disorder.

Autism was a "thing", but it was discovered that it wasn't it's own thing, but part of a group of similar things(hence the official "autistic disorder").
I have two cats, they are similar, and part of the same group, but two different breeds, I don't call one a "domestic shorthair", and one a "ragamuffin", they're similar, so they're both labeled "cat".
 
2013-01-29 01:34:06 AM

FedExPope: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism

That's just a matter of degrees. Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder.


The thing is, it's probably not so much a matter of degree as modern medicine would like to think.

We call it a "spectrum" because there's a variety of symptoms and severity, but given a very strong genetic component, which includes epigenetic factors, not 100% heritable, it's , ya know, complicated.

Could easily be a dozen genes, multiple mutations, plus epigenetic factors and complex feedback state machines that are poorly mapped out at best, and it's clear that the "spectrum" might easily be 256 different profiles (and/or phenotypes) and if you don't know shiat (and right now we don't) that looks like a spectrum.

Frak, you only need 7 colors, one of them imaginary, to make a rainbow. (But just wait til you se real indigo).

When it comes to "spectrum" disorders, we are pissing in the dark.

It's real stuff, but psyquants worth their salt get that we are still seeing at most a couple of parts of a complex picture.

Dumbass farks like Catholic (neé Jewish) dominonist Michael Savage would like you to think it's all sin (and lazy$, nothing but sin, but honestly that world view has been nothing but ignorance and CrazyTown since Galileo.

The fact is, if you aren't a hopeless idiot, it's plain that we humans have a whole lot of traits that have been good adaptations for the last 50,000,000 years, but which have become inconvenient in the last 100.

Unless, of course, you need to discover General Relativity or some shiat.
 
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