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(Daily Mail)   Cops arrest girl for being drunk and disorderly, hold her in cell for 10 hours and then drag her to court. Joke is on them, she wasn't drunk, just autistic   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 110
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2013-01-28 02:30:08 AM
The authorities are being douchebags here and deserve the lawsuit coming their way, but blaming them for causing the girl to attempt suicide is a bit of a stretch, since self-aggression is a mark of autism to begin with and over-sensitivity to external social pressures is essentially the opposite of autism.

More likely she's been suicidal on and off for a long time (if you seem like you're drunk when you aren't your autism's probably on the 'severe hindrance' end of things) and the parent's just glad to have a scapegoat other than their own shiat genetics for once.

//Not that this in any way excuses the authorities not dropping the charges when the medical condition and the girl's sobriety were confirmed. Fire the lot of them.
 
2013-01-28 02:58:25 AM
Mailonline is on my banned list.

Any source other than theirs for this story?
 
2013-01-28 03:02:57 AM
I've witnessed this first hand. When the police are called their imstinct is to arrest whoever is still on the scene, including the victims. My wife was assualted while having a meal, because we'd had the audacity to chastise her bullying children for hitting my son. When the pricks arrived, they said we'd be arrested for breach of the peace for calling their child names! The thugs were long gone, but because we'd called the cops then waited for them, they felt the urge to nick someone - anyone. Cops are friggin morons.
 
2013-01-28 03:03:57 AM
Alcohol is commonly used in our culture. They have multiple test that can determine if alcohol was used and in many cases, approximate how much. Probably should have tried a breathalyzer.
 
2013-01-28 03:43:24 AM

Kevin72: Thanks hrist. I think the expression is to not have a dog in the fight, but I'd say dog racing beats dogfighting any day.


It's "don't have a dog in this hunt".
 
2013-01-28 03:43:39 AM
The law is the law.

It is up to the police to make the arrests and the courts to go from there.
 
2013-01-28 03:45:55 AM

fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---


came here to say FARKING THIS
too bad it didnt happen in america, family would have made out in civil court
 
2013-01-28 04:01:37 AM

Yogimus: If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.


RTFA. She didn't go all "tard rage". She was assaulted by a drunken women and was so upset that she was hysterical & crying. For some reason that made the cops think she was drunk. Her mother told the officers the young woman was autistic & they ignored her. A doctor at the police station confirmed she wasn't drunk, yet she was still unlawfully kept in custody.
 
2013-01-28 04:07:16 AM

Bathia_Mapes: A doctor at the police station confirmed she wasn't drunk, yet she was still unlawfully kept in custody.


The hammer is going to come down HARD on this one. The officer in charge is going to have a long time to think about what he did when he's on paid suspension.
 
2013-01-28 04:46:42 AM

Enemabag Jones: The law is the law.

It is up to the police to make the arrests and the courts to go from there.


So what law did the autistic woman broke?
 
2013-01-28 04:54:56 AM
Freschel
Enemabag Jones: The law is the law.
It is up to the police to make the arrests and the courts to go from there.
So what law did the autistic woman broke?


Disrespecting an officer.

Why didn't she just show some basic respect to the officer, and then things would work out fine.

/Cops just enforce the law, it isn't like law enforcement is a job where you have to deal with people first.
 
2013-01-28 04:59:59 AM
/CSB

My 60yr old uncle had a diabetic episode while driving and crashed into another car. Cops assumed he was drunk (hasn't had a drop in 50+ years) and since he was combative (saying who are you) they decided to forcibly remove him from the wrecked car, breaking his leg and landing several punches in the process.

Lawsuit against the P.D. and Chief who was landing said punches ensued, awarded $2k in federal court.

Fark the police.
 
2013-01-28 05:31:58 AM

PreMortem: /CSB

My 60yr old uncle had a diabetic episode while driving and crashed into another car. Cops assumed he was drunk (hasn't had a drop in 50+ years) and since he was combative (saying who are you) they decided to forcibly remove him from the wrecked car, breaking his leg and landing several punches in the process.

Lawsuit against the P.D. and Chief who was landing said punches ensued, awarded $2k in federal court.

Fark the police.


Wow, a whole $2k?
 
2013-01-28 05:41:51 AM

PreMortem: /CSB

My 60yr old uncle had a diabetic episode while driving and crashed into another car. Cops assumed he was drunk (hasn't had a drop in 50+ years) and since he was combative (saying who are you) they decided to forcibly remove him from the wrecked car, breaking his leg and landing several punches in the process.

Lawsuit against the P.D. and Chief who was landing said punches ensued, awarded $2k in federal court.

Fark the police.


There was a cop that I used to occasionally hang out with (was a friend of a friend) and he would regale us with stories about how thrilled he was when he was able to use force. He was so happy the first time he used his taser gun, which was essentially used because someone was mouthing off to him. These guys get a cop boner when they have an excuse to use force. There are rarely repercussions and even when something does make it to court it's mostly your word vs theirs, and believe it or not cops tend to bend the truth to fit into a plausible narrative quite often.
 
2013-01-28 05:51:29 AM

GranoblasticMan: PreMortem: /CSB

My 60yr old uncle had a diabetic episode while driving and crashed into another car. Cops assumed he was drunk (hasn't had a drop in 50+ years) and since he was combative (saying who are you) they decided to forcibly remove him from the wrecked car, breaking his leg and landing several punches in the process.

Lawsuit against the P.D. and Chief who was landing said punches ensued, awarded $2k in federal court.

Fark the police.

Wow, a whole $2k?


Sadly, he was offered $200k to settle before it went up to federal court and let the police off with a no fault verdict, he refused on principle.

Link
 
2013-01-28 06:08:50 AM

Yogimus: If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.


You've never met anybody that is on the high end of the autism spectrum, have you?

I've worked at 2 major theme parks and have dealt with thousands of people a day. I've still encountered only a handful of severely autistic kids, but the few that I have met have changed my view of autism. I feel for families that have been dealt that card.
 
2013-01-28 06:12:53 AM
The problem with these cases is that the cops KNOW 100% they screwed up, but instead of doing the right thing apologizing profusely, having those responsible resign and awarding reasonable compensation, the scumbags always FIGHT the charges and close ranks.

Cops, this is one of the main reasons why reasonably-thinking people hate your guts. You never take responsibility when your people screw up. You are taking the moral low road her. You appear to be uncaring cold-blooded beasts with zero conscience.

Fark you all
 
2013-01-28 06:19:07 AM

arghyematey: Yogimus: If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.

You've never met anybody that is on the high end of the autism spectrum, have you?

I've worked at 2 major theme parks and have dealt with thousands of people a day. I've still encountered only a handful of severely autistic kids, but the few that I have met have changed my view of autism. I feel for families that have been dealt that card.


Yes, but from what I've seen in movies I bet you save a ton of money on calculators, not to mention the amount of time saved googling baseball statistics. It's like god's way of equalling things out.
 
2013-01-28 06:27:40 AM
Always hearing the argument, "Well that's just a few bad apples making us all look bad" as far as police are concerned.
But then you hear a new story about more police doing jacked up shiat every other day.
You know what? It's not a couple bad apples, it's not a few. It's a lot. A LOT.
I wouldn't put it past any cop to do something nefarious if they thought they could get away with it or keep the department out of hot water.
There will be another story here soon, and then another, Ad infinitum.

fark `em.
 
2013-01-28 06:38:22 AM

SpdrJay: I'd love to know how much money BS like this costs the taxpayers in lawsuits against the police each year. Must be a fortune.


If its Britain not much. Contingency fees are illegal
 
2013-01-28 06:39:55 AM

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: untaken_name: Criminalizing autism? I knew the private prison industry was looking for fresh meat, but that seems a bit excessive.

/DNRTFA

Right... because cops and prosecutors were never ignorant, racist, corrupt or overzealous before the private prison industry came along.

I don't think prisons should be privatized but the authoritarian BS didn't start with them; "criminal justice" has always tended that way. Your attempts to be edgy by attempting to "pull back the curtain on the man pulling the levers" simply exposes you as an ignorant hack.


It's ok, Warden. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Since things were never perfect, it's perfectly fine that the private prisons are making things worse, amirite? We couldn't possibly say anything against that practice, since institutionalized justice wasn't perfect before we privatized it, right? Well, you sure convinced me. It's funny that you lob charges of ignorance around, seeing as how you have no idea what I know or don't know or what my experience level on the subject is. But whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night, officer.
 
2013-01-28 06:42:07 AM

serial_crusher: untaken_name: Criminalizing autism? I knew the private prison industry was looking for fresh meat, but that seems a bit excessive.

/DNRTFA

They've got criminals manning call centers now right?  About time Dell improved the quality of service over the folks who usually answer their helpdesk.


Well, that's a good point. They should get some convicts working on their hold music, though. It's criminally bad.
 
2013-01-28 06:44:27 AM

C18H27NO3: Always hearing the argument, "Well that's just a few bad apples making us all look bad" as far as police are concerned.
But then you hear a new story about more police doing jacked up shiat every other day.
You know what? It's not a couple bad apples, it's not a few. It's a lot. A LOT.
I wouldn't put it past any cop to do something nefarious if they thought they could get away with it or keep the department out of hot water.
There will be another story here soon, and then another, Ad infinitum.

fark `em.


Now, now. It's that 1% of cops, that tiny, small, insignificant 1% of police officers....that get a bad name from the other 99%.
 
2013-01-28 07:04:43 AM
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2013-01-28 07:26:25 AM

BummerDuck: There really ought to be more tests to become a cop. Maybe set the IQ bar just a bit higher, and get rid of the thugs.


I was just watching this last night:

media.hiponline.com

"And speaking of tough guys, I'm getting a little tired of hearing that after six policemen got arrested for shoving a floor lamp up some black guy's ass, and ripping his intestines out, the police department announces they're gonna have 'sensitivity training'. I say: hey, if you need special training to be told not to jam a large cumbersome object up someone's asshole, maybe you're too farked up to be on the police force in the first place. You know what they ought to do? They ought to have two new requirements for being on the police: Intelligence and decency. You never can tell, it might just work, it certainly hasn't been tried yet."
 
2013-01-28 07:27:30 AM

Gordon Bennett: [veggiemacabre.files.wordpress.com image 200x200]



wtf?
 
2013-01-28 07:34:45 AM
kennethauthor.files.wordpress.com
You are a stranger!
/wonder how socially functional that chick is
 
2013-01-28 07:43:26 AM
RobSeace
"And speaking of tough guys, I'm getting a little tired of hearing that after six policemen got arrested for shoving a floor lamp up some black guy's ass, and ripping his intestines out, the police department announces they're gonna have 'sensitivity training'. I say: hey, if you need special training to be told not to jam a large cumbersome object up someone's asshole, maybe you're too farked up to be on the police force in the first place. You know what they ought to do? They ought to have two new requirements for being on the police: Intelligence and decency. You never can tell, it might just work, it certainly hasn't been tried yet."


This is great.

/But if the position of management is to generate revenue and look tough on crime though statistics, isn't it in management's rational interest to hire short-fused intolerant dicks that make arrests whenever possible.
 
2013-01-28 07:49:39 AM
I have everyone on my ignore list so the comments section looks like I'm talking to myself.
 
2013-01-28 07:50:23 AM

Bruce Campbell: I have everyone on my ignore list so the comments section looks like I'm talking to myself.


I wish I could respond to your post, but I've ignored you, so I can't see it.
 
2013-01-28 07:51:49 AM
PreMortem,
Gordon Bennett: [veggiemacabre.files.wordpress.com image 200x200]
wtf?


It is called the early 80's. Easily offended people were told to STFU. Almost like watching youtube.

Now if one mentally challenged multi-racial druid gets offended by a joke it would not make national media.
 
2013-01-28 07:58:59 AM

Brick-House: To bad she wasn't epileptic because that some good sex...just don't try for a BJ.


'specially if they are still wearing braces.
 
2013-01-28 08:12:34 AM

namatad: fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

came here to say FARKING THIS
too bad it didnt happen in america, family would have made out in civil court


Assuming she managed to beat the charges for assaulting an officer and resisting arrest.
 
2013-01-28 08:16:58 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.



Asperger's, Autism..... round them all up. FOR THE CHILDREN!
 
2013-01-28 08:24:02 AM
Yes, cops can smell cannabis resin inside a passing car but can't actually tell if you've had enough alcohol to make you incoherent.
 
2013-01-28 08:30:01 AM
 
2013-01-28 08:33:28 AM

Raoul Eaton: ///autism threads are great for beefing my my ignore list


This.
 
2013-01-28 08:41:01 AM
Yeah, ignore list, definitely ignore list.
 
2013-01-28 08:56:27 AM

doofusgumby: Kevin72: Thanks hrist. I think the expression is to not have a dog in the fight, but I'd say dog racing beats dogfighting any day.

It's "don't have a dog in this hunt".


Actually, the correct expression is "the autist was jumping around like a three-legged dog in a cat factory.
 
2013-01-28 09:16:12 AM

2xhelix: [imageshack.us image 850x675]


It would be funnier if the first word wasn't police. Kind of like US Marine cook or medic, they are all Marines first, cook or medic second, all Marines are riflemen.
 
2013-01-28 09:17:10 AM
There really ought to be more tests to become a cop. Maybe set the IQ bar just a bit higher, and get rid of the thugs.

Then there would be no cops.

/I am ok with this
 
2013-01-28 10:06:01 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger%27s_Syndrome

"Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome or Asperger disorder, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests."

You should check things more often, I suppose.
 
2013-01-28 10:08:54 AM

lack of warmth: 2xhelix: [imageshack.us image 850x675]

It would be funnier if the first word wasn't police. Kind of like US Marine cook or medic, they are all Marines first, cook or medic second, all Marines are riflemen.


The Marines: Even the guy peeling the potatoes will kill you.
 
2013-01-28 10:24:25 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey

KINDA douchey?

AverageAmericanGuy: YOU'RE ALL GOING ON MY IGNORE LIST TODAY


Bye. And stay gone, please.
 
2013-01-28 10:28:32 AM

some_beer_drinker: AverageAmericanGuy: YOU'RE ALL GOING ON MY IGNORE LIST TODAY

how do you enjoy fark if you don't read the idiotic stuff? that's the best stuff.


Yeah, I mean, if you're not reading that, you're doing it wrong around here.
 
2013-01-28 10:40:52 AM
At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts.

They assume she is probably guity of something ifs he is in jail.
 
2013-01-28 11:11:17 AM

fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts

Oh for F*CK'S sake.. Sue the shiat out of them.


Yup. The cops should be nailed to the wall for this one. People tell all sorts of stories to avoid arrest so I won't fault them for originally arresting her but once they know they got the wrong person they should be promptly released.

msupf: Wow, the court wouldn't even admit they made a mistake when dropping the case.

Asshattery to a high degree.


Yup, the criminal justice system is insane.
 
2013-01-28 11:16:51 AM
Everybody mocks the US for being such a litigious society, but there are times when that is a good thing.
 
2013-01-28 11:38:51 AM

LoneWolf343: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger%27s_Syndrome

"Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome or Asperger disorder, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests."

You should check things more often, I suppose.


This is actually a key problem with the way autism diagnosis are classified. Autism is one of the 6 or so classifications in the ASD ... to be clear ... "autism" and "autism spectrum disorder" are two different things. Under the ASD are several classifications, such as Fragile-X syndrome, Aspergers, NOS-PDD, and Autism itself. A lot of people call ASD simply 'autism' for whatever reason, but make no mistake that 'Autism' is also a diagnosis and not just a classification. My 9 year old son has it. Last I checked, there was like a 1 in 2000 chance of a child developing Autism (not an ASD classification, but autism itself). If you include the entire ASD, it's closer to 1 in 100. There's a 1 in 100 chance a child will have one of the following: Aspergers, NOS-PDD, Fragile-X, Autism, and whatever else is on the spectrum these days. 1 in 150 if it's a girl.

The original poster was correct - Autism is not Aspergers .... but Autism Spectrum Disorder is ... it's just terribly wording that will be rectified in DSM 5, as someone mentioned. No one here was right or wrong. Just a lot of misunderstanding because 'ASD' should never have been shortened to 'Autism' by anyone since Autism was a thing in itself.
 
2013-01-28 11:57:25 AM

arghyematey: I've worked at 2 major theme parks and have dealt with thousands of people a day. I've still encountered only a handful of severely autistic kids, but the few that I have met have changed my view of autism. I feel for families that have been dealt that card.


I am still 'new' to this thing I guess, since my kid is only 9 (low functioning autism). But, I really don't feel like a victim. I mean, things are different, but they are manageable. Once you know the short list of things he needs to be content, he's really better behaved than most normal kids in most situations. He won't ask for stuff in stores. You take him to a restaurant, plop the iPad in front of him, order him a hamburger and corn, and he metaphorically vanishes for an hour. He's not as flexible as a normal child and he won't be verbally bullied into doing anything, but he is just so damn easy to please once you have the instruction book. I've told many people on many occasions I would be delighted to have another autistic kid. I love that ball of crazy and, again, he's just so easy to handle. If they are going to end up somewhere, I'd rather it be with me than someone who WOULD feel like a victim because it reflects back on the kid.

On that note, we do not trust him with anyone to babysit or such. You HAVE to know him to get those results. He'd terrorize anyone that isn't familiar with how he ticks. It's very simple to keep him happy, but it's like putting a square peg in a round hole - it doesn't make sense. People try to treat him like a normal kid and it doesn't work. His parenting guide is totally different, but a lot smaller.

He doesn't care for zoos. They bore him. I imagine a theme park would be the same. I can see him doing a lot of staring at the ground, groaning, and jerking around ... basically, we know better than to take him to a theme park because he'd hate it. Just being outside in the bright sun or heat. No iPad will fix it. Maybe the kids you see making a scene feel the same way. The only thing he liked at the zoo was the old fashioned water wheel. He loves falling water. *shrug*
 
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