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2013-01-27 09:53:05 PM  
haha, now that's a funny joke.
 
2013-01-28 12:18:33 AM  
police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts

Oh for F*CK'S sake.. Sue the shiat out of them.
 
2013-01-28 12:26:01 AM  
imageshack.us
 
2013-01-28 12:28:29 AM  
owstarr.com
Autism...is there anything it CAN'T do?
 
2013-01-28 12:29:30 AM  
But she could still have been "DISORDERLY", right?
 
2013-01-28 12:31:34 AM  

Somacandra: But she could still have been "DISORDERLY", right?


How DARE you?!?!?!11!! She's not disorderly...she's special...
 
2013-01-28 12:33:03 AM  
the police aren't to blame here,
blame her parents for vaccinating her.
 
2013-01-28 12:33:25 AM  
Criminalizing autism? I knew the private prison industry was looking for fresh meat, but that seems a bit excessive.

/DNRTFA
 
2013-01-28 12:33:34 AM  

fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts

Oh for F*CK'S sake.. Sue the shiat out of them.


Agreed. I was willing to be slightly amused till I read that part.

There really ought to be more tests to become a cop. Maybe set the IQ bar just a bit higher, and get rid of the thugs.
 
2013-01-28 12:33:58 AM  

SubBass49: Autism...is there anything it CAN'T do?


i.imgur.com

Amazing, right? All the brat really needs is to be told to cut it out once in a while.

/yeah I fed it
 
2013-01-28 12:34:35 AM  
Wow, the court wouldn't even admit they made a mistake when dropping the case.

Asshattery to a high degree.
 
2013-01-28 12:36:36 AM  
She belongs in an institution. And although prison is an institution, I'm thinking something more likely to keep her sedated and in a position where she can't hurt others.
 
2013-01-28 12:38:55 AM  
To bad she wasn't epileptic because that some good sex...just don't try for a BJ.
 
2013-01-28 12:39:14 AM  
Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.
 
2013-01-28 12:41:44 AM  
I'd love to know how much money BS like this costs the taxpayers in lawsuits against the police each year. Must be a fortune.
 
2013-01-28 12:42:31 AM  
Oopsie!  Lawsuit coming in short order I'd assume...
 
2013-01-28 12:44:26 AM  

msupf: Wow, the court wouldn't even admit they made a mistake when dropping the case.

Asshattery to a high degree.


Well, that hurts their numbers if they just let people go. Gotta get that conviction rate up so your superiors can see you are doing a good job and you can get that promotion. Thats how it works here with the DA's office (winning% means everything) and NYPD (faking compstat numbers so LTs and such can get bumped up)
 
2013-01-28 12:47:20 AM  

super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.


Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey
 
2013-01-28 12:48:25 AM  

BummerDuck: fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts

Oh for F*CK'S sake.. Sue the shiat out of them.

Agreed. I was willing to be slightly amused till I read that part.

There really ought to be more tests to become a cop. Maybe set the IQ bar just a bit higher, and get rid of the thugs.


They do test them. And don't hire them if they score too high.

ABC News reports that the Second Circuit Court of Appeals has dismissed the discrimination claim of an applicant to the New London, Conn., police department who was rejected because he scored too high on an intelligence test. The department's reason for rejecting high-scoring applicants was that they might become bored with police work. The policy, the court found, met the rational-basis test.

I'd link to the ABC article but it's got auto-play video.
 
2013-01-28 12:52:23 AM  

super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.


Brick-House: To bad she wasn't epileptic because that some good sex...just don't try for a BJ.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-28 12:56:58 AM  
I know we've got our own issues but I'm I the only one thankfully I don't live in England every time I read a story about overly intrusive government and overly legislated society?

/bad teeth and ugly woman are the least of their problems,
 
2013-01-28 12:58:49 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism


That's just a matter of degrees. Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder.
 
2013-01-28 01:01:08 AM  
I heard they had a machine called a breathalyzer that police routinely use to analyze the percentage of alcohol in a person's bloodstream based on how much alcohol is in their breath, and they use it all the time to measure how much alcohol a suspected drunk driver is intoxicated with. I realize that this girl was not driving. But my question is could the police have nonetheless used the breathalyzer on a nondriving person under suspicion of alcohol intoxication? I'm sure test would have worked equally well for a non-motorist.
 
2013-01-28 01:01:47 AM  

FedExPope: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism

That's just a matter of degrees. Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder.


Especially since there is no more Dx of Aspergers and it is all Autism now. DSM 5 FTW
 
2013-01-28 01:02:37 AM  

Kevin72: I heard they had a machine called a breathalyzer that police routinely use to analyze the percentage of alcohol in a person's bloodstream based on how much alcohol is in their breath, and they use it all the time to measure how much alcohol a suspected drunk driver is intoxicated with. I realize that this girl was not driving. But my question is could the police have nonetheless used the breathalyzer on a nondriving person under suspicion of alcohol intoxication? I'm sure test would have worked equally well for a non-motorist.


Or she may have just been shouting and acting crazy and they subdued her. Obviously the drinking charge won't stick, but the disorderly conduct probably will.
 
2013-01-28 01:02:38 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey


Asperger's falls under the ASD (autism spectrum disorder) umbrella, albeit at the high functioning end of the spectrum.
 
2013-01-28 01:02:55 AM  

fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts

Oh for F*CK'S sake.. Sue the shiat out of them.


This problem could quickly be solved if the prosecutor and the arresting officers were taken out back and hung. Their replacements will be a bit more careful.
 
2013-01-28 01:04:48 AM  

untaken_name: Criminalizing autism? I knew the private prison industry was looking for fresh meat, but that seems a bit excessive.

/DNRTFA


Right... because cops and prosecutors were never ignorant, racist, corrupt or overzealous before the private prison industry came along.

I don't think prisons should be privatized but the authoritarian BS didn't start with them; "criminal justice" has always tended that way. Your attempts to be edgy by attempting to "pull back the curtain on the man pulling the levers" simply exposes you as an ignorant hack.
 
2013-01-28 01:05:17 AM  
If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.
 
2013-01-28 01:05:28 AM  

Somacandra: SubBass49: Autism...is there anything it CAN'T do?

[i.imgur.com image 456x305]

Amazing, right? All the brat really needs is to be told to cut it out once in a while.

/yeah I fed it


Isn't the person pictured one Michael "Savage" Weiner PhD banned from entering the country in question for no reason but some bureaucrat somewhere doesn't like his politics, and is there an irony somewhere?
 
2013-01-28 01:08:36 AM  
Whether or not she had autism is totally irrelevant to this story. She wasn't drunk. They held her for ten hours and then charged her anyway after finding out she wasn't drunk. This would be an appalling and disgusting story if she was just an ordinary person, or if she had diabetes or if she had a brain tumor.

It's that the cops (and the courts) can't admit they made a mistake, is all.
 
2013-01-28 01:19:39 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: She belongs in an institution. And although prison is an institution, I'm thinking something more likely to keep her sedated and in a position where she can't hurt others.


Yeah, because she was so dangerous when she was knocked down and stomped on by someone who actually was drunk.

///autism threads are great for beefing my my ignore list
 
2013-01-28 01:21:13 AM  
Not a fan of catch all type legislation that allows police to arrest people anytime they get sand in their panties. Drunk and disorderly, disturbing the peace, rape...all just made up shiat to oppress people.
 
2013-01-28 01:22:21 AM  

YOU'RE ALL GOING ON MY IGNORE LIST TODAY

 
2013-01-28 01:23:32 AM  

Yogimus: If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.


She didn't. She was crying in the corner after an actual drunk became actually disorderly, then ran off.

At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts.

I kept wondering why they didn't just check until I came to this. But the sons of biatches did check, and kept going anyway.
 
2013-01-28 01:24:07 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey


DSM V is reorganizing the diagnoses so all autism spectrum disorders are, well, autism spectrum disorder. Including Asberger's, which will no longer be a separately named diagnosis -- it will be under ASD.
 
2013-01-28 01:29:53 AM  

FedExPope: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism

That's just a matter of degrees. Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder.


Well, Aspergers isn't autism until DSM5. Then we're all autistic.
 
2013-01-28 01:32:33 AM  
Merseyside police said a 25-year-old woman who allegedly attacked Miss Jones was later arrested but not charged due to 'lack of evidence'.

That's my favorite part of the article.
 
2013-01-28 01:32:39 AM  
There was a girl from Liverpool
Who was treated by cops like a tool
They said she was drunk
Which was complete bunk
And it was in the end quite cruel
 
2013-01-28 01:34:58 AM  

untaken_name: Criminalizing autism? I knew the private prison industry was looking for fresh meat, but that seems a bit excessive.

/DNRTFA


They've got criminals manning call centers now right?  About time Dell improved the quality of service over the folks who usually answer their helpdesk.
 
2013-01-28 01:35:55 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: I know we've got our own issues but I'm I the only one thankfully I don't live in England every time I read a story about overly intrusive government and overly legislated society?

/bad teeth and ugly woman are the least of their problems,


Can't tell if serious.jpg
 
2013-01-28 01:41:04 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey


All alone, or in twos,
the ones who really love you
walk up and down outside the wall.

Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands. The bleeding hearts and autists
make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall*
after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall.

* I'm guessing those are the epileptics

/ or maybe they really are just drunk
 
2013-01-28 01:41:23 AM  
Ha Ha ! There goes all your doughnut money!
 
2013-01-28 01:47:50 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: YOU'RE ALL GOING ON MY IGNORE LIST TODAY


how do you enjoy fark if you don't read the idiotic stuff? that's the best stuff.
 
2013-01-28 01:49:38 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: YOU'RE ALL GOING ON MY IGNORE LIST TODAY


I'm not on your ignore list already? Well shiat, I'll have to try harder next time
 
2013-01-28 01:50:12 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.
If only there was some kind of test---
At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts
Oh for F*CK'S sake.. Sue the shiat out of them.

This problem could quickly be solved if the prosecutor and the arresting officers were taken out back and hung. Their replacements will be a bit more careful.



I like the way you think, and concur.
 
2013-01-28 01:55:46 AM  
Miss Jones, who is studying bakery at college

She can bake to potato?
 
2013-01-28 02:02:26 AM  
So did the police keep the fingerprints and DNA? Did they destroy her records?

No mention of it in the article. Would sue to have that taken care of.
 
2013-01-28 02:10:54 AM  

Kevin72: I heard they had a machine called a breathalyzer that police routinely use to analyze the percentage of alcohol in a person's bloodstream based on how much alcohol is in their breath, and they use it all the time to measure how much alcohol a suspected drunk driver is intoxicated with. I realize that this girl was not driving. But my question is could the police have nonetheless used the breathalyzer on a nondriving person under suspicion of alcohol intoxication? I'm sure test would have worked equally well for a non-motorist.


It isn't illegal to be intoxicated. Suspecting someone of being intoxicated is not grounds to arrest them unless there is an actual crime being committed that might be linked to the alcohol. For example, disturbing the peace. Disturbing the peace while drunk is usually filed under 'drunk and disorderly conduct' which is a misdemeanor. Slightly worse in terms of penalties than disturbing the peace. In this situation, the police suspected of her of 'drunk and disorderly conduct' and so were legally allowed to see if she had been drinking.

HOWEVER, the fact that they continued to pursue for 'drunk and disorderly conduct' whenever it was found she was not drinking should, in a perfect world, lead to some questions being asked by people that don't have a dog in this race. Not sure who that is or how it works since it's Britain though.
 
2013-01-28 02:20:10 AM  
Thanks hrist. I think the expression is to not have a dog in the fight, but I'd say dog racing beats dogfighting any day.
 
2013-01-28 02:30:08 AM  
The authorities are being douchebags here and deserve the lawsuit coming their way, but blaming them for causing the girl to attempt suicide is a bit of a stretch, since self-aggression is a mark of autism to begin with and over-sensitivity to external social pressures is essentially the opposite of autism.

More likely she's been suicidal on and off for a long time (if you seem like you're drunk when you aren't your autism's probably on the 'severe hindrance' end of things) and the parent's just glad to have a scapegoat other than their own shiat genetics for once.

//Not that this in any way excuses the authorities not dropping the charges when the medical condition and the girl's sobriety were confirmed. Fire the lot of them.
 
2013-01-28 02:58:25 AM  
Mailonline is on my banned list.

Any source other than theirs for this story?
 
2013-01-28 03:02:57 AM  
I've witnessed this first hand. When the police are called their imstinct is to arrest whoever is still on the scene, including the victims. My wife was assualted while having a meal, because we'd had the audacity to chastise her bullying children for hitting my son. When the pricks arrived, they said we'd be arrested for breach of the peace for calling their child names! The thugs were long gone, but because we'd called the cops then waited for them, they felt the urge to nick someone - anyone. Cops are friggin morons.
 
2013-01-28 03:03:57 AM  
Alcohol is commonly used in our culture. They have multiple test that can determine if alcohol was used and in many cases, approximate how much. Probably should have tried a breathalyzer.
 
2013-01-28 03:43:24 AM  

Kevin72: Thanks hrist. I think the expression is to not have a dog in the fight, but I'd say dog racing beats dogfighting any day.


It's "don't have a dog in this hunt".
 
2013-01-28 03:43:39 AM  
The law is the law.

It is up to the police to make the arrests and the courts to go from there.
 
2013-01-28 03:45:55 AM  

fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---


came here to say FARKING THIS
too bad it didnt happen in america, family would have made out in civil court
 
2013-01-28 04:01:37 AM  

Yogimus: If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.


RTFA. She didn't go all "tard rage". She was assaulted by a drunken women and was so upset that she was hysterical & crying. For some reason that made the cops think she was drunk. Her mother told the officers the young woman was autistic & they ignored her. A doctor at the police station confirmed she wasn't drunk, yet she was still unlawfully kept in custody.
 
2013-01-28 04:07:16 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: A doctor at the police station confirmed she wasn't drunk, yet she was still unlawfully kept in custody.


The hammer is going to come down HARD on this one. The officer in charge is going to have a long time to think about what he did when he's on paid suspension.
 
2013-01-28 04:46:42 AM  

Enemabag Jones: The law is the law.

It is up to the police to make the arrests and the courts to go from there.


So what law did the autistic woman broke?
 
2013-01-28 04:54:56 AM  
Freschel
Enemabag Jones: The law is the law.
It is up to the police to make the arrests and the courts to go from there.
So what law did the autistic woman broke?


Disrespecting an officer.

Why didn't she just show some basic respect to the officer, and then things would work out fine.

/Cops just enforce the law, it isn't like law enforcement is a job where you have to deal with people first.
 
2013-01-28 04:59:59 AM  
/CSB

My 60yr old uncle had a diabetic episode while driving and crashed into another car. Cops assumed he was drunk (hasn't had a drop in 50+ years) and since he was combative (saying who are you) they decided to forcibly remove him from the wrecked car, breaking his leg and landing several punches in the process.

Lawsuit against the P.D. and Chief who was landing said punches ensued, awarded $2k in federal court.

Fark the police.
 
2013-01-28 05:31:58 AM  

PreMortem: /CSB

My 60yr old uncle had a diabetic episode while driving and crashed into another car. Cops assumed he was drunk (hasn't had a drop in 50+ years) and since he was combative (saying who are you) they decided to forcibly remove him from the wrecked car, breaking his leg and landing several punches in the process.

Lawsuit against the P.D. and Chief who was landing said punches ensued, awarded $2k in federal court.

Fark the police.


Wow, a whole $2k?
 
2013-01-28 05:41:51 AM  

PreMortem: /CSB

My 60yr old uncle had a diabetic episode while driving and crashed into another car. Cops assumed he was drunk (hasn't had a drop in 50+ years) and since he was combative (saying who are you) they decided to forcibly remove him from the wrecked car, breaking his leg and landing several punches in the process.

Lawsuit against the P.D. and Chief who was landing said punches ensued, awarded $2k in federal court.

Fark the police.


There was a cop that I used to occasionally hang out with (was a friend of a friend) and he would regale us with stories about how thrilled he was when he was able to use force. He was so happy the first time he used his taser gun, which was essentially used because someone was mouthing off to him. These guys get a cop boner when they have an excuse to use force. There are rarely repercussions and even when something does make it to court it's mostly your word vs theirs, and believe it or not cops tend to bend the truth to fit into a plausible narrative quite often.
 
2013-01-28 05:51:29 AM  

GranoblasticMan: PreMortem: /CSB

My 60yr old uncle had a diabetic episode while driving and crashed into another car. Cops assumed he was drunk (hasn't had a drop in 50+ years) and since he was combative (saying who are you) they decided to forcibly remove him from the wrecked car, breaking his leg and landing several punches in the process.

Lawsuit against the P.D. and Chief who was landing said punches ensued, awarded $2k in federal court.

Fark the police.

Wow, a whole $2k?


Sadly, he was offered $200k to settle before it went up to federal court and let the police off with a no fault verdict, he refused on principle.

Link
 
2013-01-28 06:08:50 AM  

Yogimus: If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.


You've never met anybody that is on the high end of the autism spectrum, have you?

I've worked at 2 major theme parks and have dealt with thousands of people a day. I've still encountered only a handful of severely autistic kids, but the few that I have met have changed my view of autism. I feel for families that have been dealt that card.
 
2013-01-28 06:12:53 AM  
The problem with these cases is that the cops KNOW 100% they screwed up, but instead of doing the right thing apologizing profusely, having those responsible resign and awarding reasonable compensation, the scumbags always FIGHT the charges and close ranks.

Cops, this is one of the main reasons why reasonably-thinking people hate your guts. You never take responsibility when your people screw up. You are taking the moral low road her. You appear to be uncaring cold-blooded beasts with zero conscience.

Fark you all
 
2013-01-28 06:19:07 AM  

arghyematey: Yogimus: If your autistic precious decides to go all tard rage in public, then lock her little ass up.

You've never met anybody that is on the high end of the autism spectrum, have you?

I've worked at 2 major theme parks and have dealt with thousands of people a day. I've still encountered only a handful of severely autistic kids, but the few that I have met have changed my view of autism. I feel for families that have been dealt that card.


Yes, but from what I've seen in movies I bet you save a ton of money on calculators, not to mention the amount of time saved googling baseball statistics. It's like god's way of equalling things out.
 
2013-01-28 06:27:40 AM  
Always hearing the argument, "Well that's just a few bad apples making us all look bad" as far as police are concerned.
But then you hear a new story about more police doing jacked up shiat every other day.
You know what? It's not a couple bad apples, it's not a few. It's a lot. A LOT.
I wouldn't put it past any cop to do something nefarious if they thought they could get away with it or keep the department out of hot water.
There will be another story here soon, and then another, Ad infinitum.

fark `em.
 
2013-01-28 06:38:22 AM  

SpdrJay: I'd love to know how much money BS like this costs the taxpayers in lawsuits against the police each year. Must be a fortune.


If its Britain not much. Contingency fees are illegal
 
2013-01-28 06:39:55 AM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: untaken_name: Criminalizing autism? I knew the private prison industry was looking for fresh meat, but that seems a bit excessive.

/DNRTFA

Right... because cops and prosecutors were never ignorant, racist, corrupt or overzealous before the private prison industry came along.

I don't think prisons should be privatized but the authoritarian BS didn't start with them; "criminal justice" has always tended that way. Your attempts to be edgy by attempting to "pull back the curtain on the man pulling the levers" simply exposes you as an ignorant hack.


It's ok, Warden. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Since things were never perfect, it's perfectly fine that the private prisons are making things worse, amirite? We couldn't possibly say anything against that practice, since institutionalized justice wasn't perfect before we privatized it, right? Well, you sure convinced me. It's funny that you lob charges of ignorance around, seeing as how you have no idea what I know or don't know or what my experience level on the subject is. But whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night, officer.
 
2013-01-28 06:42:07 AM  

serial_crusher: untaken_name: Criminalizing autism? I knew the private prison industry was looking for fresh meat, but that seems a bit excessive.

/DNRTFA

They've got criminals manning call centers now right?  About time Dell improved the quality of service over the folks who usually answer their helpdesk.


Well, that's a good point. They should get some convicts working on their hold music, though. It's criminally bad.
 
2013-01-28 06:44:27 AM  

C18H27NO3: Always hearing the argument, "Well that's just a few bad apples making us all look bad" as far as police are concerned.
But then you hear a new story about more police doing jacked up shiat every other day.
You know what? It's not a couple bad apples, it's not a few. It's a lot. A LOT.
I wouldn't put it past any cop to do something nefarious if they thought they could get away with it or keep the department out of hot water.
There will be another story here soon, and then another, Ad infinitum.

fark `em.


Now, now. It's that 1% of cops, that tiny, small, insignificant 1% of police officers....that get a bad name from the other 99%.
 
2013-01-28 07:04:43 AM  
veggiemacabre.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-28 07:26:25 AM  

BummerDuck: There really ought to be more tests to become a cop. Maybe set the IQ bar just a bit higher, and get rid of the thugs.


I was just watching this last night:

media.hiponline.com

"And speaking of tough guys, I'm getting a little tired of hearing that after six policemen got arrested for shoving a floor lamp up some black guy's ass, and ripping his intestines out, the police department announces they're gonna have 'sensitivity training'. I say: hey, if you need special training to be told not to jam a large cumbersome object up someone's asshole, maybe you're too farked up to be on the police force in the first place. You know what they ought to do? They ought to have two new requirements for being on the police: Intelligence and decency. You never can tell, it might just work, it certainly hasn't been tried yet."
 
2013-01-28 07:27:30 AM  

Gordon Bennett: [veggiemacabre.files.wordpress.com image 200x200]



wtf?
 
2013-01-28 07:34:45 AM  
kennethauthor.files.wordpress.com
You are a stranger!
/wonder how socially functional that chick is
 
2013-01-28 07:43:26 AM  
RobSeace
"And speaking of tough guys, I'm getting a little tired of hearing that after six policemen got arrested for shoving a floor lamp up some black guy's ass, and ripping his intestines out, the police department announces they're gonna have 'sensitivity training'. I say: hey, if you need special training to be told not to jam a large cumbersome object up someone's asshole, maybe you're too farked up to be on the police force in the first place. You know what they ought to do? They ought to have two new requirements for being on the police: Intelligence and decency. You never can tell, it might just work, it certainly hasn't been tried yet."


This is great.

/But if the position of management is to generate revenue and look tough on crime though statistics, isn't it in management's rational interest to hire short-fused intolerant dicks that make arrests whenever possible.
 
2013-01-28 07:49:39 AM  
I have everyone on my ignore list so the comments section looks like I'm talking to myself.
 
2013-01-28 07:50:23 AM  

Bruce Campbell: I have everyone on my ignore list so the comments section looks like I'm talking to myself.


I wish I could respond to your post, but I've ignored you, so I can't see it.
 
2013-01-28 07:51:49 AM  
PreMortem,
Gordon Bennett: [veggiemacabre.files.wordpress.com image 200x200]
wtf?


It is called the early 80's. Easily offended people were told to STFU. Almost like watching youtube.

Now if one mentally challenged multi-racial druid gets offended by a joke it would not make national media.
 
2013-01-28 07:58:59 AM  

Brick-House: To bad she wasn't epileptic because that some good sex...just don't try for a BJ.


'specially if they are still wearing braces.
 
2013-01-28 08:12:34 AM  

namatad: fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

came here to say FARKING THIS
too bad it didnt happen in america, family would have made out in civil court


Assuming she managed to beat the charges for assaulting an officer and resisting arrest.
 
2013-01-28 08:16:58 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.



Asperger's, Autism..... round them all up. FOR THE CHILDREN!
 
2013-01-28 08:24:02 AM  
Yes, cops can smell cannabis resin inside a passing car but can't actually tell if you've had enough alcohol to make you incoherent.
 
2013-01-28 08:30:01 AM  
 
2013-01-28 08:33:28 AM  

Raoul Eaton: ///autism threads are great for beefing my my ignore list


This.
 
2013-01-28 08:41:01 AM  
Yeah, ignore list, definitely ignore list.
 
2013-01-28 08:56:27 AM  

doofusgumby: Kevin72: Thanks hrist. I think the expression is to not have a dog in the fight, but I'd say dog racing beats dogfighting any day.

It's "don't have a dog in this hunt".


Actually, the correct expression is "the autist was jumping around like a three-legged dog in a cat factory.
 
2013-01-28 09:16:12 AM  

2xhelix: [imageshack.us image 850x675]


It would be funnier if the first word wasn't police. Kind of like US Marine cook or medic, they are all Marines first, cook or medic second, all Marines are riflemen.
 
2013-01-28 09:17:10 AM  
There really ought to be more tests to become a cop. Maybe set the IQ bar just a bit higher, and get rid of the thugs.

Then there would be no cops.

/I am ok with this
 
2013-01-28 10:06:01 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger%27s_Syndrome

"Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome or Asperger disorder, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests."

You should check things more often, I suppose.
 
2013-01-28 10:08:54 AM  

lack of warmth: 2xhelix: [imageshack.us image 850x675]

It would be funnier if the first word wasn't police. Kind of like US Marine cook or medic, they are all Marines first, cook or medic second, all Marines are riflemen.


The Marines: Even the guy peeling the potatoes will kill you.
 
2013-01-28 10:24:25 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey

KINDA douchey?

AverageAmericanGuy: YOU'RE ALL GOING ON MY IGNORE LIST TODAY


Bye. And stay gone, please.
 
2013-01-28 10:28:32 AM  

some_beer_drinker: AverageAmericanGuy: YOU'RE ALL GOING ON MY IGNORE LIST TODAY

how do you enjoy fark if you don't read the idiotic stuff? that's the best stuff.


Yeah, I mean, if you're not reading that, you're doing it wrong around here.
 
2013-01-28 10:40:52 AM  
At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts.

They assume she is probably guity of something ifs he is in jail.
 
2013-01-28 11:11:17 AM  

fusillade762: police assumed she had been drinking and arrested her.

If only there was some kind of test---

At the police station, a doctor confirmed she hadn't been drinking, but still the police tried to pursue her through the courts

Oh for F*CK'S sake.. Sue the shiat out of them.


Yup. The cops should be nailed to the wall for this one. People tell all sorts of stories to avoid arrest so I won't fault them for originally arresting her but once they know they got the wrong person they should be promptly released.

msupf: Wow, the court wouldn't even admit they made a mistake when dropping the case.

Asshattery to a high degree.


Yup, the criminal justice system is insane.
 
2013-01-28 11:16:51 AM  
Everybody mocks the US for being such a litigious society, but there are times when that is a good thing.
 
2013-01-28 11:38:51 AM  

LoneWolf343: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger%27s_Syndrome

"Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome or Asperger disorder, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests."

You should check things more often, I suppose.


This is actually a key problem with the way autism diagnosis are classified. Autism is one of the 6 or so classifications in the ASD ... to be clear ... "autism" and "autism spectrum disorder" are two different things. Under the ASD are several classifications, such as Fragile-X syndrome, Aspergers, NOS-PDD, and Autism itself. A lot of people call ASD simply 'autism' for whatever reason, but make no mistake that 'Autism' is also a diagnosis and not just a classification. My 9 year old son has it. Last I checked, there was like a 1 in 2000 chance of a child developing Autism (not an ASD classification, but autism itself). If you include the entire ASD, it's closer to 1 in 100. There's a 1 in 100 chance a child will have one of the following: Aspergers, NOS-PDD, Fragile-X, Autism, and whatever else is on the spectrum these days. 1 in 150 if it's a girl.

The original poster was correct - Autism is not Aspergers .... but Autism Spectrum Disorder is ... it's just terribly wording that will be rectified in DSM 5, as someone mentioned. No one here was right or wrong. Just a lot of misunderstanding because 'ASD' should never have been shortened to 'Autism' by anyone since Autism was a thing in itself.
 
2013-01-28 11:57:25 AM  

arghyematey: I've worked at 2 major theme parks and have dealt with thousands of people a day. I've still encountered only a handful of severely autistic kids, but the few that I have met have changed my view of autism. I feel for families that have been dealt that card.


I am still 'new' to this thing I guess, since my kid is only 9 (low functioning autism). But, I really don't feel like a victim. I mean, things are different, but they are manageable. Once you know the short list of things he needs to be content, he's really better behaved than most normal kids in most situations. He won't ask for stuff in stores. You take him to a restaurant, plop the iPad in front of him, order him a hamburger and corn, and he metaphorically vanishes for an hour. He's not as flexible as a normal child and he won't be verbally bullied into doing anything, but he is just so damn easy to please once you have the instruction book. I've told many people on many occasions I would be delighted to have another autistic kid. I love that ball of crazy and, again, he's just so easy to handle. If they are going to end up somewhere, I'd rather it be with me than someone who WOULD feel like a victim because it reflects back on the kid.

On that note, we do not trust him with anyone to babysit or such. You HAVE to know him to get those results. He'd terrorize anyone that isn't familiar with how he ticks. It's very simple to keep him happy, but it's like putting a square peg in a round hole - it doesn't make sense. People try to treat him like a normal kid and it doesn't work. His parenting guide is totally different, but a lot smaller.

He doesn't care for zoos. They bore him. I imagine a theme park would be the same. I can see him doing a lot of staring at the ground, groaning, and jerking around ... basically, we know better than to take him to a theme park because he'd hate it. Just being outside in the bright sun or heat. No iPad will fix it. Maybe the kids you see making a scene feel the same way. The only thing he liked at the zoo was the old fashioned water wheel. He loves falling water. *shrug*
 
2013-01-28 02:45:30 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Kevin72: I heard they had a machine called a breathalyzer that police routinely use to analyze the percentage of alcohol in a person's bloodstream based on how much alcohol is in their breath, and they use it all the time to measure how much alcohol a suspected drunk driver is intoxicated with. I realize that this girl was not driving. But my question is could the police have nonetheless used the breathalyzer on a nondriving person under suspicion of alcohol intoxication? I'm sure test would have worked equally well for a non-motorist.

Or she may have just been shouting and acting crazy and they subdued her. Obviously the drinking charge won't stick, but the disorderly conduct probably will.


Well, no, she and a friend intervened to stop an  actually drunk woman from  attacking a salesperson, after which she was crying. So the autistic girl acted to protect someone else and was farking arrested for it.

I understand doing a quick breathalyzer--certainly if you're a total moron it's understandable to think a disabled person whose disability isn't visible might be just drunk--but once they knew, why the fark they didn't release her is beyond me.
 
2013-01-28 03:30:45 PM  
i.telegraph.co.uk

www.newstruth.co.uk

Ahh the UK, the land of no firearms, no violence, and peaceful free people. If only the we in the U.S could be more like them!
 
2013-01-28 03:57:41 PM  

Raoul Eaton: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey

DSM V is reorganizing the diagnoses so all autism spectrum disorders are, well, autism spectrum disorder. Including Asberger's, which will no longer be a separately named diagnosis -- it will be under ASD.


You are the first one so far to actually understand what I was getting at.
 
2013-01-28 04:00:52 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Freschel
Enemabag Jones: The law is the law.
It is up to the police to make the arrests and the courts to go from there.
So what law did the autistic woman broke?

Disrespecting an officer.

Why didn't she just show some basic respect to the officer, and then things would work out fine.

/Cops just enforce the law, it isn't like law enforcement is a job where you have to deal with people first.


It's not against the law to disrespect police officers.

/so fark 'em
 
2013-01-28 04:06:27 PM  

LoneWolf343: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger%27s_Syndrome

"Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's syndrome or Asperger disorder, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests."

You should check things more often, I suppose.


You should try the current DSM, not Wikipedia.
 
2013-01-28 04:07:13 PM  

friday13: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism.

/and calling them "autists" makes you sound kinda douchey
KINDA douchey?


I was trying to put it kindly to the douchebag.
 
2013-01-28 06:33:10 PM  

arghyematey: You've never met anybody that is on the high end of the autism spectrum, have you?


Hi my name is BlaqueKatt and I am autistic(on the high-functioning end of the spectrum). And Fark+a few other message boards is the entirety of my social interaction, neurotypicals don't like my kind much in person, here I seem normal. Yay!
 
2013-01-28 06:39:11 PM  

MagicMissile: [i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x400]

[www.newstruth.co.uk image 468x394]

Ahh the UK, the land of no firearms, no violence, and peaceful free people. If only the we in the U.S could be more like them!


cdn.theatlantic.com

Swings and roundabouts.
 
2013-01-28 07:02:06 PM  

JPSimonetti:
Just a lot of misunderstanding because 'ASD' should never have been shortened to 'Autism' by anyone since Autism was a thing in itself.


ASD is the "umbrella" diagnosis(and usually not considered an "actual diagnosis"), similar to calling your car a "toyota", but there are numerous types of toyotas(camry, rav4,corolla), just as there are numerous types of Autism. Most things in the DSM have an "umbrella" and a further category, and most just use the umbrella term without the disorder tag(bipolar, depression, schizophrenia), or further delineation to avoid having to go into lengthy explanations. for example, If I say I have cyclothymia(I don't, this is just an example), very few people would understand what that means, it's a form of bipolar disorder, so I'd just say I have bipolar disorder.

Autism was a "thing", but it was discovered that it wasn't it's own thing, but part of a group of similar things(hence the official "autistic disorder").
I have two cats, they are similar, and part of the same group, but two different breeds, I don't call one a "domestic shorthair", and one a "ragamuffin", they're similar, so they're both labeled "cat".
 
2013-01-29 01:34:06 AM  

FedExPope: The My Little Pony Killer: super_grass: Hey, the last time I checked, autists commit mass shootings and are considered "mentally ill", whatever that means.

Last time I checked, Asperger's isn't Autism

That's just a matter of degrees. Aspergers is an autism spectrum disorder.


The thing is, it's probably not so much a matter of degree as modern medicine would like to think.

We call it a "spectrum" because there's a variety of symptoms and severity, but given a very strong genetic component, which includes epigenetic factors, not 100% heritable, it's , ya know, complicated.

Could easily be a dozen genes, multiple mutations, plus epigenetic factors and complex feedback state machines that are poorly mapped out at best, and it's clear that the "spectrum" might easily be 256 different profiles (and/or phenotypes) and if you don't know shiat (and right now we don't) that looks like a spectrum.

Frak, you only need 7 colors, one of them imaginary, to make a rainbow. (But just wait til you se real indigo).

When it comes to "spectrum" disorders, we are pissing in the dark.

It's real stuff, but psyquants worth their salt get that we are still seeing at most a couple of parts of a complex picture.

Dumbass farks like Catholic (neé Jewish) dominonist Michael Savage would like you to think it's all sin (and lazy$, nothing but sin, but honestly that world view has been nothing but ignorance and CrazyTown since Galileo.

The fact is, if you aren't a hopeless idiot, it's plain that we humans have a whole lot of traits that have been good adaptations for the last 50,000,000 years, but which have become inconvenient in the last 100.

Unless, of course, you need to discover General Relativity or some shiat.
 
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