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2013-01-27 10:22:30 PM
9 votes:
According to a study from a company that sells automotive diagnostic equipment.
2013-01-27 11:50:37 PM
8 votes:
1.  Putting off recommended / scheduled maintenance
Sometimes.  Some scheduled maintenance is known as "milk the customer" maintenance, some of it needs to be done.  If you don't know which is which, talk to a qualified friend of family member, or just take it in on schedule and bend over.

2. Ignoring the "check engine" light
The check engine light is almost exclusively emissions/pollution control measures these days, there's usually another light for real real problems, like the oil light etc.  Don't ignore the light, hook it up to a reader at a parts store, they usually won't charge you.  If it was just something like the gas cap not being tight enough three weeks ago (a real reading I had after buying a locking cap) you can just tighten the cap and reset the alert.  If it's a real problem you can fix it, take it to a parts store, not a mechanic first, save the money if your car is still running fine.

3. Not changing the oil, or not having it changed on time
This is a real thing - sort of.  Modern vehicles can make normal oil last longer than vehicles made 20 or 30 years ago, safely.  Synthetic oils even longer than that.  Of course anyone who changes oil for a living is still giving you 1963 oil change times.  Pay attention to what kind of oil you put in, the age and condition of your vehicle, and use some brain cells.  I can actually tell the performance change in my vehicle when it needs an oil change.

4. Not checking tire pressure
This is hard on tires, gas mileage, handling, and performance.  It's not really something that will kill your vehicle as the article implies, but yes, keep track of it.

5. Neglecting coolant, brake, transmission and other fluid services
Yes this is a big deal.  Learn hot to take the caps off of everything and look at the fill lines, not that hard really.  Also know how to listen for singing brakes.

6. Continuing to drive when the vehicle is overheating
This is accurate, pull over stupid!  Chances are if you take care of all of the above you wont have this problem unless your vehicle is really old.

7. Not changing fuel and air filters
These are a little trickier than the rest.  A nasty looking air filter can be just fine and a pristine looking one can be clogged.  Fuel filters - they can last the life of the vehicle, even for a long life, or just a short time, buy descent gas.  When your performance degrades check these things.

8. Having unqualified shops service your vehicle
Maybe.  If your vehicle is under warranty use it.  If it's not go somewhere reputable.  Don't buy sandwiches from a gas station bathroom vending machine either.

9. Using generic aftermarket parts instead of original equipment manufacturer (OEM)-quality parts
Often times "generic" (as in non-oem) parts are better and cheaper than OEM parts.  If you buy a low end performance part you'll get something that is better made and more efficient  than the OEM version most of the time.  If you get a high-end performance part may end up with a hot-rod.  I tend to replace worn parts with low-end performance parts when I can, they cost less and they're often better. OEM COMPONENTS ARE OVERPRICED.  I don't hot-rod my stuff and I don't buy crap.

10. Trying to service your own high-tech vehicle
That's right, you're all a bunch of morans and we know it! Just like anything else.  Don't do something you don't feel comfortable doing.  I'm not a high-end mechanic and I've done plenty of work on later model vehicles.  Yes, I was more comfortable on 1980's tech than I am new stuff, but really, when it gets down to it a lot of it isn't all that different as long as you stay out of the electrical systems.
2013-01-27 05:34:55 PM
7 votes:
11. Trust your wife to understand the reason behind any of the first 10 items.
2013-01-27 11:35:46 PM
5 votes:
This "article" was pretty much written by a car dealer's service department.


1. Putting off recommended / scheduled maintenance
equals "LET US SERVICE YOUR CAR!"
2. Ignoring the "check engine" light
equals "LET US SERVICE YOUR CAR!"
3. Not changing the oil, or not having it changed on time
equals "LET US SERVICE YOUR CAR!"
4. Not checking tire pressure
equals "LET US SERVICE YOUR CAR!"
5. Neglecting coolant, brake, transmission and other fluid services
equals "LET US SERVICE YOUR CAR!"
6. Continuing to drive when the vehicle is overheating
equals "LET US SERVICE YOUR CAR!"
7. Not changing fuel and air filters
equals "LET US SERVICE YOUR CAR!"
8. Having unqualified shops service your vehicle
equals "LET US SERVICE YOUR CAR!"
9. Using generic aftermarket parts instead of original equipment manufacturer (OEM)-quality parts
equals "LET US SERVICE YOUR CAR!"
10. Trying to service your own high-tech vehicle
equals "LET US SERVICE YOUR CAR!"
2013-01-27 10:32:55 PM
5 votes:
-Driving it
-Looking upon it
-Thinking about it
-Referring to it in conversation

Your car will fall apart no matter how much or how little maintenance you put into it. It will do so on the day you need it most.
2013-01-27 05:29:31 PM
5 votes:
How insightful, Business Insider, apparently you believe that most of your readers are dependent idiots. I'll service my car if I want to.
2013-01-27 11:16:15 PM
4 votes:
8 and 10 can kiss my arse.  Call me old school or out of touch but I still service both of our cars (2011 and 1999).  With the exception of a  CVT transmission rebuild or a full engine rebuild on the newer cars, everything is doable.  The hell with the stealerships.

/no issues with good independent garages
//getting harder and harder to find though
2013-01-27 11:09:15 PM
4 votes:
Subby: Think you are doing the right thing with your Fark account? Here are the 10 worst things you can do to your precious account

1. Submit links to nonsensical "surveys" that are little more than PR fluff promoting a particular company's services and have absolutely zero basis in fact
2. Submit links to nonsensical "surveys" that are little more than PR fluff promoting a particular company's services and have absolutely zero basis in fact
3. Submit links to nonsensical "surveys" that are little more than PR fluff promoting a particular company's services and have absolutely zero basis in fact
4. Submit links to nonsensical "surveys" that are little more than PR fluff promoting a particular company's services and have absolutely zero basis in fact
5. Submit links to nonsensical "surveys" that are little more than PR fluff promoting a particular company's services and have absolutely zero basis in fact
6. Submit links to nonsensical "surveys" that are little more than PR fluff promoting a particular company's services and have absolutely zero basis in fact
7. Submit links to nonsensical "surveys" that are little more than PR fluff promoting a particular company's services and have absolutely zero basis in fact
8. Submit links to nonsensical "surveys" that are little more than PR fluff promoting a particular company's services and have absolutely zero basis in fact
9. Submit links to nonsensical "surveys" that are little more than PR fluff promoting a particular company's services and have absolutely zero basis in fact
10. Submit links to the Daily Fail and/or Sun claiming to contain "hot" women

You've violated nine of the ten golden rules, Subby. Poor play. Poor play indeed.
2013-01-27 10:19:18 PM
4 votes:
11.  Putting gigantic rims on it.
2013-01-27 11:41:28 PM
3 votes:

UsikFark: Pribar:

i135.photobucket.com

But it stopped squealing so I thought the problem had went away....

Okay, I don't remove wheels from cars, so I may be a little slow on this.. but is that the result of metal being removed from the brake disk, presumably because the brake pads wore out?


You could say that, a normal disc rotor looks like this:

i135.photobucket.com

The one I originally linked had the shoes worn down to the steel core which ate through the rotor to the cooling vanes and actually caused it to separate from the hub. Not good turned a 99 buck brake job into a 1000 plus Odyssey
2013-01-27 11:15:16 PM
3 votes:
Please don't youtube videos of car repair! You might discover how simple and inexpensive it is.
2013-01-27 11:12:27 PM
3 votes:
So... "don't intentionally not fix things that you know to be broken or malfunctioning", basically.

Insightful. I would never have thought of that.
2013-01-27 11:07:06 PM
3 votes:
What about those stupid Jesus fish?
2013-01-27 10:28:50 PM
3 votes:
2013-01-28 04:25:23 AM
2 votes:

Tommy Moo: TommyymmoT: Sid_6.7: TommyymmoT: LarryDan43: Please don't youtube videos of car repair! You might discover how simple and inexpensive it is.

True, though make sure you watch videos from more than one source.
I've seen horrifically bad advice given in some YouTube DIY videos.

I'm willing to do work on my car when it is not something that might end up being a legal liability thing, like brakes.

Same here. Brakes are one of the few things I won't work on.

That's a shame. Brake work is probably the easiest thing on a car. It's the first thing I ever got into. It's practically idiot proof. Just unscrew stuff until you get to the part you want to replace, put the new one on, and put things back in the reverse order. Everything is modular. The only tricky thing is making sure you don't leave the caliper dangling by the fluid hose.


yeah, brake work is easy but if someone screws it up, it can be pretty dangerous and/or destructive. rule of thumb is, if you're unsure of what you're doing, find someone who knows what they're doing.
2013-01-28 12:23:13 AM
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: [www.dailyinterweb.com image 500x375]

Ground effects and low profile tires can significantly increase your acceleration times and boost aerodynamics resulting in ~35hp improvement over stock bodies.


poor guy, if he hadn't wasted all that money on mods could have just bought a car that could do what he was trying to emulate.

www.autoweek.com
2013-01-28 12:07:49 AM
2 votes:
1. Putting off recommended / scheduled maintenance
Recommended by who? Jiffy Lube? Check your owners manual for the actual schedule, because the schedule you're being quoted usually a lie.

2. Ignoring the "check engine" light
This study was published by a company that sells OBDII scanners.

3. Not changing the oil, or not having it changed on time
Most people change it way too often. The 3,000 mile rule is outdated. Modern oils can go nearly 10,000 miles.

4. Not checking tire pressure
Unless it's visibly under inflated, the only drawback is lower gas mileage.

5. Neglecting coolant, brake, transmission and other fluid services
Most people change these far too often. Don't believe what the Jiffy Lube guys tells you. Check your owners manual to see the real maintenance schedule. Brake fluid will last the life of the car, and even antifreeze will last >100k miles these days.

6. Continuing to drive when the vehicle is overheating
7. Not changing fuel and air filters

I'll give them these two.

8. Having unqualified shops service your vehicle
And how would you know that, exactly? Some of the shoddiest work I've ever seen has been from dealerships, and they're supposedly the most qualified. This is a total crap shoot.

9. Using generic aftermarket parts instead of original equipment manufacturer (OEM)-quality parts
False. Aftermarket parts are usually far superior to the overpriced OEM parts.

10. Trying to service your own high-tech vehicle
FACT: High-tech cars are MUCH easier to work on than older cars because they diagnose themselves! You just plug in the OBDII scanner and the car will tell you exactly what's wrong with it. What this really means is that the author is uncomfortable working on his own car, which means he's not qualified to write this article in the first place.
2013-01-27 11:40:10 PM
2 votes:
I only drive my car when the weather is realllly shiatty. The rest of the time I ride one of my motorcycles

/Road Glide for cold weather and long trips, souped up Sporty for warm weather, Honda 750 for commuting
//I want to see how many miles I can get on that Honda. I know someone with over 150k
2013-01-27 11:30:20 PM
2 votes:
1. Putting off recommended / scheduled maintenance

Because that's money the car dealer is not getting.

2. Ignoring the "check engine" light

Because the car manufacture isn't committing fraud when they program that light to come on after x miles. Trust us, take your car to the dealer.

3. Not changing the oil, or not having it changed on time

3000 mile oil changes only make sense with older cars. New models can go much longer between oil changes.

4. Not checking tire pressure

Ok, I'll give them this one.

5. Neglecting coolant, brake, transmission and other fluid services

The quickie oil change place I go to does this for me.

6. Continuing to drive when the vehicle is overheating

This is just common sense - unless your car is overheating in South Central Los Angeles. Then keep driving as fast as you farking can.

7. Not changing fuel and air filters

See #5.

8. Having unqualified shops service your vehicle

Because only the car dealership is qualified to work on your car. Trust us, no one else could possible know how to fix your car and we charge three times as much because of our expertise.

9. Using generic aftermarket parts instead of original equipment manufacturer (OEM)-quality parts

The manufacturer parts cost at least double the money and last half the time for a good reason. Just trust us.

10. Trying to service your own high-tech vehicle

Yep, you can't. We put shiat in that car that makes no sense just so you can't work on it. It's not your '72 VW Bug anymore.
kab
2013-01-27 11:17:55 PM
2 votes:
#10 is entirely dependent on your own skill.

#6 is just a retard test. Fail that, and you probably shouldn't have a license to begin with.

#9 on that list is the absolute truth, and becomes apparent to folks who dabble in aftermarket / performance gear for cars. In more cases than not, the improved thingamajig isn't going to have the fit / quality / durability that the oem one does. Spark plug cables are a perfect example of this.

/yes, I know there are exceptions.
2013-01-27 11:07:15 PM
2 votes:
What a crock of shiat.
2013-01-27 09:38:19 PM
2 votes:
For some reason, "driving through a wooden shed," "dropping a caravan on it," "setting it on fire" and "imploding a twelve-storey building directly beneath it" are absent from the list.
2013-01-28 12:07:10 PM
1 votes:
My favorite CSB about car maintenance.

I was dating a girl who had a friend who had car problems. So she asked me to drive around with her friend and see if I could figure out what was going on.

My dad had owned his own car repair shop, but I was a computer nerd (and my parents divorced when I was four), so I only knew a little about how cars worked. I wasn't sure I'd be able to help, but I went along anyway.

The girl told me her family had bad luck with cars, even when buying new. Supposedly they didn't have a car last more than (I think -it's been a while here) 30,000 miles. -Even a Toyota and a Honda.

So we drive around the block and the car starts smoking, and then it starts smoking *really bad*. I have her pull into a service station and look the car over. The engine was overheating. I asked her the last time she had changed her oil... she couldn't tell me, but she said something to the effect of her dad had figured the whole changing your oil every 3000 miles was a scam and that car repair shops were out to get you.

I checked her oil... The dipstick came out with no oil on it. I cleaned it and put it in again, making sure to put it all the way in this time... a little bit of burnt black, sticky oil came out.

I was dumbfounded. I had never seen a car essentially run without oil. -She had burned almost all of it off. I told her she needed oil to run the car, she wasn't sure and wanted to talk to her dad... Luckily he didn't pick up his phone. I went inside and bought a quart of oil. I put it in, and had her start the car... surprise, it quit smoking!

She hugged me as tight as she could... I think she even started crying.

Now, what was interesting here is that her family had grown up in New York City I believe, and none of them had ever actually had to have a car. In Tennessee they needed one, so for the first time bought one. Her dad (I guess) didn't want to seem like a guy who knew nothing about cars, so he just assumed all auto repair shops were crooks and listened to some poor advice about the changing your oil every 3000 miles thing was unnecessary. (Yes, I know it's not always necessary to do it that often, but for The general population, it's a good rule of thumb in case they are running the car into the ground).

What kills me is that they destroyed several cars this way and still didn't listen to any mechanics.

/end CSB
2013-01-28 09:19:49 AM
1 votes:

lack of warmth: Just bought a used Ford Expedition and, of course, have a couple issues. First the catalytic converters are missing and a straight pipe was put in their place. The life in a scrap crime riddled city. It's okay, with how much I talked the dealer down, I still come out okay after having that fixed right. Second, I did my first oil change right after buying and discovered the idiot that welded in the pipes must have changed the oil too. The truck has a F-150 v-8 and therefore takes a fat filter. The filter last put on was smaller than what I put on the Ranger.


I'm surprised they even sold it to you with no cats. Here in Maryland the car has to pass inspection because you can ever drive it off the lot.

And I feel your pain with having to deal with previous idiot owner issues. When I bought my Mustang I noticed I was getting a lot of road noise coming up through the shifter assembly. I opened up the center console and found that when the previous moron had installed a new shifter they didn't bother to reseat the rubber shifter boot. The best part was that the farking thing was actually in place upside down even though there is a farking arrow on the side pointing down the the words "This Side Down" printed next to it. Also found out that they had replaced the rear speakers at some point but couldn't be bothered to properly remove the trim panels so one of the tabs is deformed and will never seat properly again.
2013-01-28 07:19:03 AM
1 votes:
Where I live, if the "check engine" (officially called the Malfunction Indicator Light) is on, you automatically fail inspection.

Under federal law, manufactures are allowed to use the MIL for only for emissions related faults, not for routine reminders or other non-emissions related issues.

I bought a $20 OBDII code scanner from Amazon. If the MIL turns on, I can pull the codes and know if its a loose gas cap or something more serious. I can also use it to check to see if the car will pass inspection before I actually go get inspected.
2013-01-28 06:31:15 AM
1 votes:

King Something: For some reason, "driving through a wooden shed," "dropping a caravan on it," "setting it on fire" and "imploding a twelve-storey building directly beneath it" are absent from the list.


It's a generic list. Suppose you DO have a Hi-Lux, in which case you can do all of the above.

My take-home lesson from this article was,

The 10 Worst Things You Can Do To Your Vehicle:
1. Fail to throw money at it.
2. Fail to throw money at it.
3. Fail to throw money at it.
4. Fail to throw money at it.
5. Fail to throw money at it.
6. Fail to throw money at it.
7. Fail to throw money at it.
8. Fail to throw money at it.
9. Fail to throw money at it.
10. Fail to throw money at it.
2013-01-28 04:41:36 AM
1 votes:

HaywoodJablonski: Tommy Moo: So basically, spend money, and spend it often, whether your car needs it or not, and only on expensive parts installed by dealership servicemen.

Was this article written by the goddamn auto industry? Fark off. I'm not paying for preventative maintenance while my car is under warranty. If anything goes wrong, the first thing I'm going to do is see if I can access it, get it off, and swap in a part from Carquest. If that doesn't work, I'm going to a licensed professional, but it damn sure isn't going to be a dealer.

An excellent way to void the warranty in a lot of cases


Well if it's under warranty, the dealership will fix it for free. And when the warranty expires, there's nothing to lose. Either way, I'm never paying money to have my car fixed at a dealership.
2013-01-28 04:37:16 AM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: SpdrJay: What about those stupid Jesus fish?

Worse than that are those stupid stick-figure decals that show every member of your family, including your pets.

Why don't people just get a bumper-sticker that says "The Douchebag Family"?


Worse than both of those are knockoff cartoon characters urinating or praying before a cross, and worst of all is a memorial commemorating a dead loved one in the form of a vinyl sticker. What are you to do when you sell the car, just ball up Grandma's precious memorial and toss it?
2013-01-28 04:02:05 AM
1 votes:

TommyymmoT: Sid_6.7: TommyymmoT: LarryDan43: Please don't youtube videos of car repair! You might discover how simple and inexpensive it is.

True, though make sure you watch videos from more than one source.
I've seen horrifically bad advice given in some YouTube DIY videos.

I'm willing to do work on my car when it is not something that might end up being a legal liability thing, like brakes.

Same here. Brakes are one of the few things I won't work on.


That's a shame. Brake work is probably the easiest thing on a car. It's the first thing I ever got into. It's practically idiot proof. Just unscrew stuff until you get to the part you want to replace, put the new one on, and put things back in the reverse order. Everything is modular. The only tricky thing is making sure you don't leave the caliper dangling by the fluid hose.
2013-01-28 03:47:27 AM
1 votes:
So basically, spend money, and spend it often, whether your car needs it or not, and only on expensive parts installed by dealership servicemen.

Was this article written by the goddamn auto industry? Fark off. I'm not paying for preventative maintenance while my car is under warranty. If anything goes wrong, the first thing I'm going to do is see if I can access it, get it off, and swap in a part from Carquest. If that doesn't work, I'm going to a licensed professional, but it damn sure isn't going to be a dealer.
2013-01-28 03:28:11 AM
1 votes:

OgreMagi: Ikam: JohnAnnArbor: WhippingBoy: SpdrJay: What about those stupid Jesus fish?

Worse than that are those stupid stick-figure decals that show every member of your family, including your pets.

Why don't people just get a bumper-sticker that says "The Douchebag Family"?

I saw a zombie one recently. That was almost tolerable.

I want one with just a guy (me) and a long string of disposable sluts.

/and my cats


"My neighbors have stick family decals. I bought an extra sticker and they haven't noticed yet."

uberhumor.com

/seems like it could be rather amusing
2013-01-28 03:03:41 AM
1 votes:

Girion47: cyberspacedout: Sid_6.7: I'm willing to do work on my car when it is not something that might end up being a legal liability thing, like brakes.

Then there's also, you know, the huge safety issue. Wouldn't mess with mine no matter how much $ it meant saving.

Brakes are stupidly easy to fix. Changing the pads/rotors on a car for $200 is just stupid. You can get a pair of rotors for 25 and performance brakes for 90. Changing the pad/rotor takes very little time.


Or, instead of saving $85 and blowing an hour of my weekend, I can have the dealership pick me up and give me a loaner car, go play golf, have the dealer drop off my car, pay $200 and not worry about violating the terms of my warranty. Also, if I screw up the work, I have no recourse
2013-01-28 02:28:25 AM
1 votes:

Spartan_Manhandler: meyerkev: The nice used 70-year old car with 100,000 miles on it and no warranty was $400 a month for 36 months.

It'll be a lot harder to find parts for as well.


7-year old. (Stupid typo).

I would also add that the used car was about 50-60% cheaper insurance-wise. I don't know what people over the age of 20 pay, but at this point, my insurance is almost as much as my car payment.
2013-01-28 01:29:15 AM
1 votes:

King Something: For some reason, "driving through a wooden shed," "dropping a caravan on it," "setting it on fire" and "imploding a twelve-storey building directly beneath it" are absent from the list.


The article says "car." A Hilux is a minor deity.
2013-01-28 01:14:58 AM
1 votes:
Yeah...because my Nissan "oil" light will come on around 8,000 miles...but the dealership would really prefer I would change it at 3,000, even though the factory setting say 3,700 at the least.
2013-01-28 01:03:15 AM
1 votes:

RminusQ: Over the past 1.5 months, I've committed like half of those on a single series of problems. Car started acting up in early December, and CE light came on, then started blinking. Took it to my mechanic, who replaced my spark plugs but half-assed the job. When the problem came back, he then gave me some other bullshiat part which did nothing. So then I had my roommate (car salesman)'s mechanic look at it. He's not a Mazda guy, he's a high-end German cars guy, so while he had some thoughts, he didn't want to do anything too big that could fark my car.

So finally I took it to the dealer two weeks ago. My roommate helped by dropping the name of the head service guy for the parent company of both dealers, which got me a discount and a "No seriously, we won't fark you" promise. Original mechanic should've replaced the coils with the spark plugs, and there was other broken shiat also. Got it fixed, got it back.

Two days later the farking light comes back on. Take it back to the dealer, and it looks like the catalytic converter is shot. So $2000 spent on repairs and a rental (would've been more if I didn't have a coworker who could drive me to and from work basically on demand), and it still won't pass inspection unless I put another $1500 in it.


Some states have a spending limit for the I/M test.  If you provide proof you've spent that amount and still can't pass you can be issued a waiver.  Check and see.  I think in Anchorage it was something like $700 until they stopped doing them.
2013-01-28 12:59:49 AM
1 votes:

StoPPeRmobile: Smeggy Smurf: Billy Bathsalt: I don't work on my high-tech car, I work on my low-tech truck

Older rigs FTW

Computer make is easy to troubleshoot harness problems and ensure your gas guzzler starts every time you turn the key.


No computer means no electronic bullshiat to try to figure out. It's all mechanical and electrical. Easy stuff to figure out. That electronic shiat isn't.

/ought to swap out the 350 for a diesel with a turbo
//one day...
2013-01-28 12:56:59 AM
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: So... "don't intentionally not fix things that you know to be broken or malfunctioning", basically.

Insightful. I would never have thought of that.


This. The article amounted to "don't ignore the idiot lights."
2013-01-28 12:39:34 AM
1 votes:

thorthor: Also, liberal political stickers in my state will result in some tebagger keying your car every time. Yeah its that bad.


Works both ways. My neighbor had a Gadsden flag on his back window and had he car keyed and tires slashed more than once. Immaturity and lack of intelligence can be lacking on both sides of the isle.
2013-01-28 12:38:13 AM
1 votes:
Over the past 1.5 months, I've committed like half of those on a single series of problems. Car started acting up in early December, and CE light came on, then started blinking. Took it to my mechanic, who replaced my spark plugs but half-assed the job. When the problem came back, he then gave me some other bullshiat part which did nothing. So then I had my roommate (car salesman)'s mechanic look at it. He's not a Mazda guy, he's a high-end German cars guy, so while he had some thoughts, he didn't want to do anything too big that could fark my car.

So finally I took it to the dealer two weeks ago. My roommate helped by dropping the name of the head service guy for the parent company of both dealers, which got me a discount and a "No seriously, we won't fark you" promise. Original mechanic should've replaced the coils with the spark plugs, and there was other broken shiat also. Got it fixed, got it back.

Two days later the farking light comes back on. Take it back to the dealer, and it looks like the catalytic converter is shot. So $2000 spent on repairs and a rental (would've been more if I didn't have a coworker who could drive me to and from work basically on demand), and it still won't pass inspection unless I put another $1500 in it.
2013-01-28 12:31:30 AM
1 votes:

Girion47: Brakes are stupidly easy to fix. Changing the pads/rotors on a car for $200 is just stupid.


Good thing my honest, locally owned garage in my town of about 3k people doesn't charge anywhere near $200 for brakes.

It's all about where you go.
2013-01-28 12:26:26 AM
1 votes:

TommyymmoT: Sid_6.7: TommyymmoT: LarryDan43: Please don't youtube videos of car repair! You might discover how simple and inexpensive it is.

True, though make sure you watch videos from more than one source.
I've seen horrifically bad advice given in some YouTube DIY videos.

I'm willing to do work on my car when it is not something that might end up being a legal liability thing, like brakes.

Same here. Brakes are one of the few things I won't work on.


Brakes are easy. I've changed pads, calipers, and rotors several times and a master cylinder once. So long as you pay attention it's hard to screw up. My car needs a timing belt and water pump soon. That's something I'm wary of doing, mostly because I have an interference engine. I plan to buy a new DD come spring. So I can take my time if I decide to be overly cautious and need to have the car not running for a couple of days. Or I can just take the motorcycle, too.

Working on cars is a lot like working on computers. Do lots of research and jump right in. Although with cars it helps to be mechanically inclined.

/Just started restoring a 1965 Honda CA95. Gonna be fun.
//No, really. I love that kind of sfuff.
2013-01-28 12:21:46 AM
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I have an Audi that has been very good to me. Take it in for service every 10k miles and do nothing in between other than check the tire pressure unless a light turns on (has happened once). Once the free maintenance was over I started taking it to a local VW mechanic who has done me right. 10 years 110k miles and going strong. The whole "change your oil every 3000 miles" is bunk. Audi tech I talked to said the oil would last 20k as long as you're not driving like an asshat but they recommend 10k to be conservative.
JVD
2013-01-28 12:21:13 AM
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The check engine light was on in my dad's last truck for 200,000 miles.
Some errors are BS, some are not.

I wouldn't trust some minimum wage flunkie with my oil changes. I do those myself. Wix filter and Motorcraft oil for $30-35, 15 minutes of my time and it's done.

You'd have to be a retard to not pull over right away if you are overheating or have your oil light comes on.
2013-01-28 12:20:50 AM
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gibbon1: Billy Bathsalt: I don't work on my high-tech car, I work on my low-tech truck

High tech cars are actually not that complicated. Compare and contrast a late model car with a 1984 Honda Accord, farking hoses and other pneumatic doodads everywhere.


The smog and emissions systems on the newer cars are what add to the complexity of the engine bays. We traded cleaner air and less fuel efficiency for the ability to work on our own vehicles. Pulling the engine and rebuilding it on a 1996 truck was hell compared to a 1986 of the same model.

//have worked on the new and old
2013-01-28 12:20:47 AM
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Feral_and_Preposterous: running over it with a steamroller


Here c-c-c-comes Ken to k-k-k-kill me!
2013-01-28 12:15:49 AM
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RabidJade: Government Fromage: Random Anonymous Blackmail: I was actually at a tire place waiting to get my vehicle serviced when a couple had just come back after leaving. The tech forgot to put the lug nuts back on the wheel.

I left.

I had a lube place forget to put oil in.

Lube place put the oil pan bolt in with an impact and stripped the threads. The plug didn't fail until 500 miles outside of town on a family vacation. My counsin saw the oil pressure drop so he cut the ignition and coasted the car to the side of the road. Grease monkey place denied any wrong doing and said they do it all the time and blamed it on my cousin.


That's why I use a Fumoto Valve, never have to worry about cross threading or stripping the head of the bolt.

I had a clutch/flywheel replaced on my Audi and the mechanic forgot to change the gasket on the driveshaft. I was driving through the DC Snowmageddon of 2010 and that old gasket blew, got fluid all over the brand new clutch/flywheel. He refused to fix it, said I had been "racing"
2013-01-28 12:13:24 AM
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Government Fromage: Random Anonymous Blackmail: I was actually at a tire place waiting to get my vehicle serviced when a couple had just come back after leaving. The tech forgot to put the lug nuts back on the wheel.

I left.

I had a lube place forget to put oil in.


Lube place put the oil pan bolt in with an impact and stripped the threads. The plug didn't fail until 500 miles outside of town on a family vacation. My counsin saw the oil pressure drop so he cut the ignition and coasted the car to the side of the road. Grease monkey place denied any wrong doing and said they do it all the time and blamed it on my cousin.
2013-01-28 12:10:46 AM
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The best example of the snowball effect of missed car repairs is the air filter. It costs about 20 bucks to replace, but if left alone, a dirty filter can bust oxygen (02) sensors in cars, which cost as much as $250 to replace. And when the sensor fails, you'll first see your gas mileage plunge, then possibly wind up with a $1,000 bill to replace your catalytic converter.

A dirty air filter on a fuel injection vehicle will not harm the O2 sensor. In fact a dirty air filter does not affect mileage as many of these stupid articles claim. A dirty air filter may lower your maximum horsepower, though.
2013-01-28 12:09:53 AM
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Use only OEM parts bit means this was sponsored by a car company or a dealership association. Call up your dealer and ask for a lifetime guaranteed starter. No such thing. Get one for half the price from a parts chain. Undo one battery terminal, one starter wire and 2 bolts then redo them and you're set for life and you'll save hundreds on a 20 minute job. If you can change out a hard drive on a laptop you can change out pretty much anything short of your drive train on your econobox.
2013-01-28 12:05:11 AM
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I've ignored a check engine light for 30,000 miles before.  Well, not quite ignored, I knew what was causing it.  But I completely ignored it because I couldn't disable the warning so I had no idea if another warning was getting triggered.  It was the failure of a secondary system that was only needed in weather well below freezing, which almost never happens around here, and even then it still started, just sluggishly.
2013-01-27 11:56:42 PM
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Pribar: But it stopped squealing so I thought the problem had went away....


I had to stare at that for a moment. Rather impressive.

I have a degree in mechanical engineering and might go back to study economics. I try to avoid dirty work that saves me less than $100 per hour of my time. So I rely on wrench turners who do it all the time and will therefore do it in a quarter the time it would take me.

It's part of the division of labor. I think it's Riccardo's law. $45 and 20 minutes and my oil gets changed, giving me at least 2 hours to do something more profitable or relaxing.
2013-01-27 11:56:01 PM
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pecosdave: 3. Not changing the oil, or not having it changed on time
This is a real thing - sort of. Modern vehicles can make normal oil last longer than vehicles made 20 or 30 years ago, safely. Synthetic oils even longer than that. Of course anyone who changes oil for a living is still giving you 1963 oil change times. Pay attention to what kind of oil you put in, the age and condition of your vehicle, and use some brain cells. I can actually tell the performance change in my vehicle when it needs an oil change.


I can't believe I had to come down to your post to read this. I just got a new car and went for synthetic (to make it last longer! whee!), and so being an internetty person, I looked up the oil change times for synthetic. Even the nice boys at the local chain are assuming that I'm driving in the worst possible conditions all the time, for the number they gave me.

I'll be taking my new car in for an oil change a little less than the window cling says. :\
2013-01-27 11:53:26 PM
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JacksonBryan: iron de havilland: JacksonBryan: 8 and 10 can kiss my arse.  Call me old school or out of touch but I still service both of our cars (2011 and 1999).  With the exception of a  CVT transmission rebuild or a full engine rebuild on the newer cars, everything is doable.  The hell with the stealerships.

FTFY.

Reasons for wanting CVT elude me however. I guess it's the transmission to go for when you really hate driving.

The wife's car has one, women must love it but coming from nothing but manual transmissions, I hate the farking thing.


My wife and I have the same car, except hers is the hybrid version. I have to admit that I have grown to prefer using her car for road trips because of the cvt. My car trends to shift alot when dealing with winds or grades while trying to maintain speed. Her car simply increases rpm slightly. It makes long trips more enjoyable.
2013-01-27 11:44:32 PM
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Also, liberal political stickers in my state will result in some tebagger keying your car every time. Yeah its that bad.
2013-01-27 11:40:24 PM
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JacksonBryan: 8 and 10 can kiss my arse.  Call me old school or out of touch but I still service both of our cars (2011 and 1999).  With the exception of a  CVT transmission rebuild or a full engine rebuild on the newer cars, everything is doable.  The hell with the stealerships.


FTFY.

Reasons for wanting CVT elude me however. I guess it's the transmission to go for when you really hate driving.
2013-01-27 11:40:17 PM
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I would also add as a useful tip, if your car is overheating and needs fluid added to the radiator, LEAVE THE ENGINE RUNNING when adding this fluid. And add it slowly. Cold liquid entering overheated engine = cracked block.
2013-01-27 11:38:18 PM
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kab: #10 is entirely dependent on your own skill.

#6 is just a retard test. Fail that, and you probably shouldn't have a license to begin with.

#9 on that list is the absolute truth, and becomes apparent to folks who dabble in aftermarket / performance gear for cars. In more cases than not, the improved thingamajig isn't going to have the fit / quality / durability that the oem one does. Spark plug cables are a perfect example of this.

/yes, I know there are exceptions.


#9 is why I only put Ford brand oil in my engine and Ford brand Tires on my car.
2013-01-27 11:38:13 PM
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Using your garage to store your Christmas tree box on top of your treadmill instead of as a secure weatherproof place to park your car.
2013-01-27 11:32:28 PM
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JacksonBryan

Pribar: [i135.photobucket.com image 533x400]


But it stopped squealing so I thought the problem had went away....

That's the extended performance zone of every disc brake. Very few people know about it.


First rule about extended performance zone...
2013-01-27 11:26:38 PM
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Car companies are so eager to cram high tech gadgets into cars. It's sad, I'd much prefer a car that was advertised as the "Least computerized vehicle allowed on the road." All that crap breaks (which the service departments love) or go completely out of style in 5-7 years. Having an iPod dock built into your dash will seem really stupid in a few years.
2013-01-27 11:20:55 PM
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Billy Bathsalt: I don't work on my high-tech car, I work on my low-tech truck


Older rigs FTW
2013-01-27 11:16:18 PM
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SpdrJay: What about those stupid Jesus fish?


Worse than that are those stupid stick-figure decals that show every member of your family, including your pets.

Why don't people just get a bumper-sticker that says "The Douchebag Family"?
2013-01-27 11:16:01 PM
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Well that was useless. Let me sum up:

"Don't break your shiat"

There. Now you don't need to click the link.
2013-01-27 11:15:12 PM
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I was actually at a tire place waiting to get my vehicle serviced when a couple had just come back after leaving. The tech forgot to put the lug nuts back on the wheel.

I left.
2013-01-27 11:04:20 PM
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11) Put a Tea Party bumper sticker on it.
2013-01-27 09:34:08 PM
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I was expecting stuff like "Driving it into a lake" or "Running over endangered animals".
 
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