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2013-01-28 03:32:40 AM  

mike_the_engineer: 1. Putting off recommended / scheduled maintenance
Recommended by who? Jiffy Lube? Check your owners manual for the actual schedule, because the schedule you're being quoted usually a lie.

2. Ignoring the "check engine" light
This study was published by a company that sells OBDII scanners.

3. Not changing the oil, or not having it changed on time
Most people change it way too often. The 3,000 mile rule is outdated. Modern oils can go nearly 10,000 miles.

4. Not checking tire pressure
Unless it's visibly under inflated, the only drawback is lower gas mileage.

5. Neglecting coolant, brake, transmission and other fluid services
Most people change these far too often. Don't believe what the Jiffy Lube guys tells you. Check your owners manual to see the real maintenance schedule. Brake fluid will last the life of the car, and even antifreeze will last >100k miles these days.

6. Continuing to drive when the vehicle is overheating
7. Not changing fuel and air filters
I'll give them these two.

8. Having unqualified shops service your vehicle
And how would you know that, exactly? Some of the shoddiest work I've ever seen has been from dealerships, and they're supposedly the most qualified. This is a total crap shoot.

9. Using generic aftermarket parts instead of original equipment manufacturer (OEM)-quality parts
False. Aftermarket parts are usually far superior to the overpriced OEM parts.

10. Trying to service your own high-tech vehicle
FACT: High-tech cars are MUCH easier to work on than older cars because they diagnose themselves! You just plug in the OBDII scanner and the car will tell you exactly what's wrong with it. What this really means is that the author is uncomfortable working on his own car, which means he's not qualified to write this article in the first place.

figured this ex-auto mechanic should chime in.

1. correct. ignoring when to change a timing belt, for example, and having it fail on you could pretty much destroy and engine.

2. the check engine light comes on when a malfunction increases base emissions by a certain threshold, 50% if i remember right. that light can come on even if the code is something transmission/drivetrain related. if it starts flashing at you, you're doing damage, stop driving it ASAP. in any case, a check engine light could mean you're wasting gas and money, get it checked out.

3. half right, follow the manufacture's schedule in the owners manual. doing it early never hurts either as long as the waste oil gets recycled.

4. you forgot reduced traction and increased tire wear. check the owner's manual and door sticker for proper tire inflation although that specification only really applies to factory tires. different brand/style tires can have different properties which will mess with the right air pressure to get the most out of them.

5. half right. going by the owners manual is a good idea but standard DOT 3 brake fluid absorbs water, even out of the air, which will first corrode the copper lining of brake lines turning the fluid green, later it'll start turning brown from rust. thus, it should be flushed and changed periodically. DOT 5 brake fluid is silicone based and doesn't absorb water. again, refer to the owners manual for the right brake fluid, not a good idea to intermix. as a side note, a lot of manufacturers are using their own formulation of coolant that don't like to intermix. don't add old green coolant to a new car.

6 and 7. yup, prolonged operation of an overheating engine is a bad thing. periodic air filter changes are a good thing, don't forget your cabin air filter. fuel filters can be expensive depending on where they are. quite a few of them are mounted in the tank with the fuel pump. luckily, in tank filters usually last a long time.

8. most dealership techs are on salary plus commission, meaning they get paid more to crank out jobs as fast as they can. that doesn't necessarily mean they'll do a bad job though. having the village idiot try to fix your car is never a good idea though. if there's a mechanic doing bad work and getting comebacks, he won't be a mechanic for long. also, it never hurts to shop around to find a garage you can trust and can give you a better deal as long as your safety isn't compromised in that deal. you're fully within your rights to ask a mechanic to show you the problem and explain it.

9. yes and no. OEM are usually more expensive but aftermarket parts can have inferior machining/fit/function to those OEM parts. couldn't tell you how many brand new aftermarket starters and alternators i've pulled out of the box and didn't work. use what's available and shoot for middle of the road price wise when you can.

10. you're way off. a scanner only tells you the trouble code which is a broad definition of possibilities within that particular system. the root cause of that code has to be determined by following diagnostic steps that may include specialized equipment which most folks aren't going to go out and buy or have laying around.
 
2013-01-28 03:47:27 AM  
I didn't see "don't drive through a three-foot high puddle of water" So I guess we're good to go
 
2013-01-28 03:47:27 AM  
So basically, spend money, and spend it often, whether your car needs it or not, and only on expensive parts installed by dealership servicemen.

Was this article written by the goddamn auto industry? Fark off. I'm not paying for preventative maintenance while my car is under warranty. If anything goes wrong, the first thing I'm going to do is see if I can access it, get it off, and swap in a part from Carquest. If that doesn't work, I'm going to a licensed professional, but it damn sure isn't going to be a dealer.
 
2013-01-28 04:02:05 AM  

TommyymmoT: Sid_6.7: TommyymmoT: LarryDan43: Please don't youtube videos of car repair! You might discover how simple and inexpensive it is.

True, though make sure you watch videos from more than one source.
I've seen horrifically bad advice given in some YouTube DIY videos.

I'm willing to do work on my car when it is not something that might end up being a legal liability thing, like brakes.

Same here. Brakes are one of the few things I won't work on.


That's a shame. Brake work is probably the easiest thing on a car. It's the first thing I ever got into. It's practically idiot proof. Just unscrew stuff until you get to the part you want to replace, put the new one on, and put things back in the reverse order. Everything is modular. The only tricky thing is making sure you don't leave the caliper dangling by the fluid hose.
 
2013-01-28 04:08:49 AM  

Tommy Moo: So basically, spend money, and spend it often, whether your car needs it or not, and only on expensive parts installed by dealership servicemen.

Was this article written by the goddamn auto industry? Fark off. I'm not paying for preventative maintenance while my car is under warranty. If anything goes wrong, the first thing I'm going to do is see if I can access it, get it off, and swap in a part from Carquest. If that doesn't work, I'm going to a licensed professional, but it damn sure isn't going to be a dealer.


An excellent way to void the warranty in a lot of cases
 
2013-01-28 04:25:23 AM  

Tommy Moo: TommyymmoT: Sid_6.7: TommyymmoT: LarryDan43: Please don't youtube videos of car repair! You might discover how simple and inexpensive it is.

True, though make sure you watch videos from more than one source.
I've seen horrifically bad advice given in some YouTube DIY videos.

I'm willing to do work on my car when it is not something that might end up being a legal liability thing, like brakes.

Same here. Brakes are one of the few things I won't work on.

That's a shame. Brake work is probably the easiest thing on a car. It's the first thing I ever got into. It's practically idiot proof. Just unscrew stuff until you get to the part you want to replace, put the new one on, and put things back in the reverse order. Everything is modular. The only tricky thing is making sure you don't leave the caliper dangling by the fluid hose.


yeah, brake work is easy but if someone screws it up, it can be pretty dangerous and/or destructive. rule of thumb is, if you're unsure of what you're doing, find someone who knows what they're doing.
 
2013-01-28 04:37:16 AM  

WhippingBoy: SpdrJay: What about those stupid Jesus fish?

Worse than that are those stupid stick-figure decals that show every member of your family, including your pets.

Why don't people just get a bumper-sticker that says "The Douchebag Family"?


Worse than both of those are knockoff cartoon characters urinating or praying before a cross, and worst of all is a memorial commemorating a dead loved one in the form of a vinyl sticker. What are you to do when you sell the car, just ball up Grandma's precious memorial and toss it?
 
2013-01-28 04:41:36 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: Tommy Moo: So basically, spend money, and spend it often, whether your car needs it or not, and only on expensive parts installed by dealership servicemen.

Was this article written by the goddamn auto industry? Fark off. I'm not paying for preventative maintenance while my car is under warranty. If anything goes wrong, the first thing I'm going to do is see if I can access it, get it off, and swap in a part from Carquest. If that doesn't work, I'm going to a licensed professional, but it damn sure isn't going to be a dealer.

An excellent way to void the warranty in a lot of cases


Well if it's under warranty, the dealership will fix it for free. And when the warranty expires, there's nothing to lose. Either way, I'm never paying money to have my car fixed at a dealership.
 
2013-01-28 05:13:29 AM  
11. Have a garage. Really helps when you need to do maintenance on your car in the middle of winter. I feel for the apartment dwellers in places that don't even allow you to raise your hood on the property.

12. The internet is good, but an actual manual is better.

13. Changing a timing belt on a front wheel drive is a biatch (though you can save yourself several hundred dollars). Buy something with a chain.
 
2013-01-28 06:08:51 AM  
Is this where I complain about the need for OEM downloadable software and a USB connection to diagnose idiot lights?
Example: 2005 silverado. Removed stock air cleaner hose and replaced 4 inch aluminum tubing. Also removed rubber deflector behind right headlight, and cut four 7/8" holes in front of the air box. I created a ram air system. Mileage went up to 19 mpg city, 23 highway. No sound baffling. Bad thing p101 check engine light thrown in colder weather, due to higher air flow threw the MAS. Which the computer sees as a lean fuel mixture. Causing the thrown code. Or service air bag warning light, because the pressure sensor in the seat becomes unplugged.
 
2013-01-28 06:28:17 AM  
In summary: Think of the poor service technicians!

Is this supposed to be a counter to that oil change story from the other day?
 
2013-01-28 06:31:15 AM  

King Something: For some reason, "driving through a wooden shed," "dropping a caravan on it," "setting it on fire" and "imploding a twelve-storey building directly beneath it" are absent from the list.


It's a generic list. Suppose you DO have a Hi-Lux, in which case you can do all of the above.

My take-home lesson from this article was,

The 10 Worst Things You Can Do To Your Vehicle:
1. Fail to throw money at it.
2. Fail to throw money at it.
3. Fail to throw money at it.
4. Fail to throw money at it.
5. Fail to throw money at it.
6. Fail to throw money at it.
7. Fail to throw money at it.
8. Fail to throw money at it.
9. Fail to throw money at it.
10. Fail to throw money at it.
 
2013-01-28 07:19:03 AM  
Where I live, if the "check engine" (officially called the Malfunction Indicator Light) is on, you automatically fail inspection.

Under federal law, manufactures are allowed to use the MIL for only for emissions related faults, not for routine reminders or other non-emissions related issues.

I bought a $20 OBDII code scanner from Amazon. If the MIL turns on, I can pull the codes and know if its a loose gas cap or something more serious. I can also use it to check to see if the car will pass inspection before I actually go get inspected.
 
2013-01-28 07:35:22 AM  
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2013-01-28 07:44:18 AM  
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2013-01-28 07:48:55 AM  
It's hard to know what to think. A lot of people will have a dog in this fight. Therefore almost anyone piping up is, at best, biased. Then you go to a bunch of "experts" on any issue and get opinions from 30 year mechanics...all of whom are blithering retards, of course. I think I'll find someone who has the same years experience as you, and who does NOT spell "analysis" a-n-n-a-l-i-s.

So, I will report all I know factually regarding a couple of things.

1. My owners manual says to change the oil every 7k (or maybe it was 7.5k) or every 10 months. I remember the 10 months part because it seemed a curious interval.

2. My old Mercedes shop doesn't do transmission fluid/filter/yada on the rationale that mucking around with it INCREASES the probability that it will cause problems.
 
2013-01-28 07:55:02 AM  

WhippingBoy: Worse than that are those stupid stick-figure decals that show every member of your family, including your pets.

Why don't people just get a bumper-sticker that says "The Douchebag Family"?


Because that is reserved for the type of people who would want to put stick figure decals that show ever member of their family except their pets.
 
2013-01-28 08:04:32 AM  
Went to Jiffy Lube to have tires rotated and front end greased on my GMC pickup:

Me: How many grease fittings did you lube?

Jiffy Lube "Technician": 8

Me: There are 11

Jiffy Lube "Technician": I know.

Me: Why didn't do the other 3?

Jiffy Lube "Technician": I could not reach them.

Me: All you have to do is remove two bolt on the skid pan and you can reach them.

Jiffy Lube "Technician": I know, but we are not allowed to do mechanical work on customers vehicles.

Me: You just rotated my tires! That's 8 lug nuts on 4 tires!

Jiffy Lube "Technician": *shruggs*
 
2013-01-28 08:15:36 AM  

Pribar: UsikFark: Pribar:

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But it stopped squealing so I thought the problem had went away....

Okay, I don't remove wheels from cars, so I may be a little slow on this.. but is that the result of metal being removed from the brake disk, presumably because the brake pads wore out?

You could say that, a normal disc rotor looks like this:

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The one I originally linked had the shoes worn down to the steel core which ate through the rotor to the cooling vanes and actually caused it to separate from the hub. Not good turned a 99 buck brake job into a 1000 plus Odyssey


I've witnessed that before also, use to work in a auto shop when I was younger, the crap you see people do to their cars just makes you shake your head.
 
2013-01-28 08:19:14 AM  
You don't have to be high tech to plug in code reader. It will tell you the problem. Unless it's an airbag issue, you can probably do it yourself. It's not rocket surgery.
 
2013-01-28 08:27:18 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: Tommy Moo: So basically, spend money, and spend it often, whether your car needs it or not, and only on expensive parts installed by dealership servicemen.

Was this article written by the goddamn auto industry? Fark off. I'm not paying for preventative maintenance while my car is under warranty. If anything goes wrong, the first thing I'm going to do is see if I can access it, get it off, and swap in a part from Carquest. If that doesn't work, I'm going to a licensed professional, but it damn sure isn't going to be a dealer.

An excellent way to void the warranty in a lot of cases


A dealership not honoring a warranty is illegal. The most they can do is refuse to fix an issue caused by aftermarket parts. Anything not related to a failure caused by that, is still covered.
 
2013-01-28 08:41:54 AM  

wildlifer: Is this where I complain about the need for OEM downloadable software and a USB connection to diagnose idiot lights?



If you have a smartphone, Torque is free in the app store. You just need to grab one of the bluetooth dongles for the vehicle off ebay, and you're all set. I think it was 20-25 bucks when i got it
 
2013-01-28 08:46:07 AM  

wildlifer: Is this where I complain about the need for OEM downloadable software and a USB connection to diagnose idiot lights?
Example: 2005 silverado. Removed stock air cleaner hose and replaced 4 inch aluminum tubing. Also removed rubber deflector behind right headlight, and cut four 7/8" holes in front of the air box. I created a ram air system. Mileage went up to 19 mpg city, 23 highway. No sound baffling. Bad thing p101 check engine light thrown in colder weather, due to higher air flow threw the MAS. Which the computer sees as a lean fuel mixture. Causing the thrown code. Or service air bag warning light, because the pressure sensor in the seat becomes unplugged.


Autozone, Advanced Auto Parts, etc..., they'll scan it for free..
 
2013-01-28 08:57:02 AM  
The problem is ignoring maintenance, it's not ignoring it enough....

Their example:
The best example of the snowball effect of missed car repairs is the air filter. It costs about 20 bucks to replace, but if left alone, a dirty filter can bust oxygen (02) sensors in cars, which cost as much as $250 to replace. And when the sensor fails, you'll first see your gas mileage plunge, then possibly wind up with a $1,000 bill to replace your catalytic converter.

Do you need a catalytic converter for your car to run? Nope. Keep on ignoring it.
 
2013-01-28 09:06:31 AM  

badhatharry: You don't have to be high tech to plug in code reader. It will tell you the problem. Unless it's an airbag issue, you can probably do it yourself. It's not rocket surgery.


Many bigger chain parts stores will check it for free.

I don't trust conventional oil with the new longer time between oil changes, so I did a motor flush and replaced with full synthetic. The wife wasn't happy with the price, but it is cheaper when you can change your oil only twice a year.

Just bought a used Ford Expedition and, of course, have a couple issues. First the catalytic converters are missing and a straight pipe was put in their place. The life in a scrap crime riddled city. It's okay, with how much I talked the dealer down, I still come out okay after having that fixed right. Second, I did my first oil change right after buying and discovered the idiot that welded in the pipes must have changed the oil too. The truck has a F-150 v-8 and therefore takes a fat filter. The filter last put on was smaller than what I put on the Ranger.

I have a friend who owns his own oil change business and only once had he messed up someone's car. The woman called him and he told don't drive it, he will send a tow truck right away. She drove it anyway and so he ended up putting a new engine in her hoopty. He was worried at first, but they have insurance for that exact thing and it did not change his premiums. The businesses that fight people about their own mistake, tells me they do this way too often and caused their business insurance to be high. His business is a little different for they encourage the customers to go inside and enjoy free coffee while the oil is given time to actually drain from the car unlike the ones that keep you in the car and shocking the oil change is done in less than ten minutes. It's almost a charity situation since he doesn't turn a profit, but it does keep his son from being unemployed, but if people realize that guys like him will make sure that only once had he damaged a car out of thousands that may change. For the life of me I don't recall the name of the place, but it is in Port Huron.
 
2013-01-28 09:08:14 AM  

JacksonBryan: 8 and 10 can kiss my arse.  Call me old school or out of touch but I still service both of our cars (2011 and 1999).  With the exception of a  CVT transmission rebuild or a full engine rebuild on the newer cars, everything is doable.  The hell with the stealerships.


A big helping of this. Go to autozone, get yourself a basic set of sockets, box wrenches and some ramps and learn to do the shiat for yourself. Buy the Haynes/Chilton's manual for your car and use the internet; you'll be able to find videos and write-ups for anything you want to do.

Things I've learned to do since living on my own with no formal mechanic training:

change oil/oil filter
change brakepads and assemblies
change fuel filter
change spark plugs
remove/replace alternator and water pump
swap out headers/exhaust manifold
swap out entire exhaust system
rebuild rear differential with new ring/pinion gears.

For those saying your time is more valuable than that, I would ask what exactly you intend on spending all that precious saved time on; sitting around watching American Idol previews?

The only things I would be nervous about would be full blown engine and transmission teardown/rebuilds, but not because I wouldn't be able to do it, but because all this has been done on my daily driver and those are jobs that you can't do in an evening or over a long weekend comfortably if it is your first time.
 
2013-01-28 09:11:21 AM  

Pribar: Not good turned a 99 buck brake job into a 1000 plus Odyssey


Considering that the rotor, caliper and pads can be replaced for less than $100 (one wheel), you were robbed and need to find a different mechanic.
 
2013-01-28 09:17:03 AM  

fusillade762: I was expecting stuff like "Driving it into a lake" or "Running over endangered animals".


Really now. I was hoping for: Let Richard Hammond and James May use it as a reusable space shuttle.
 
2013-01-28 09:19:49 AM  

lack of warmth: Just bought a used Ford Expedition and, of course, have a couple issues. First the catalytic converters are missing and a straight pipe was put in their place. The life in a scrap crime riddled city. It's okay, with how much I talked the dealer down, I still come out okay after having that fixed right. Second, I did my first oil change right after buying and discovered the idiot that welded in the pipes must have changed the oil too. The truck has a F-150 v-8 and therefore takes a fat filter. The filter last put on was smaller than what I put on the Ranger.


I'm surprised they even sold it to you with no cats. Here in Maryland the car has to pass inspection because you can ever drive it off the lot.

And I feel your pain with having to deal with previous idiot owner issues. When I bought my Mustang I noticed I was getting a lot of road noise coming up through the shifter assembly. I opened up the center console and found that when the previous moron had installed a new shifter they didn't bother to reseat the rubber shifter boot. The best part was that the farking thing was actually in place upside down even though there is a farking arrow on the side pointing down the the words "This Side Down" printed next to it. Also found out that they had replaced the rear speakers at some point but couldn't be bothered to properly remove the trim panels so one of the tabs is deformed and will never seat properly again.
 
2013-01-28 09:26:42 AM  

spickus: Pribar: Not good turned a 99 buck brake job into a 1000 plus Odyssey

Considering that the rotor, caliper and pads can be replaced for less than $100 (one wheel), you were robbed and need to find a different mechanic.


Not on a Ford Excursion, they can't....and ford kindly undersized the rotor so if you grind it even slightly, you loose enoungh mass that it can't efficiently serve as a heat sink, and starts to warp... so, new rotors.  TaaDaa!
 
2013-01-28 09:37:10 AM  

DesertZephyr: spickus: Pribar: Not good turned a 99 buck brake job into a 1000 plus Odyssey

Considering that the rotor, caliper and pads can be replaced for less than $100 (one wheel), you were robbed and need to find a different mechanic.

Not on a Ford Excursion, they can't....and ford kindly undersized the rotor so if you grind it even slightly, you loose enoungh mass that it can't efficiently serve as a heat sink, and starts to warp... so, new rotors.  TaaDaa!


You're right, the rotors are ridiculously high ($100 vs $25) but did you destroy all 4 rotors and calipers?
 
2013-01-28 09:41:08 AM  

StrangeQ: lack of warmth: Just bought a used Ford Expedition and, of course, have a couple issues. First the catalytic converters are missing and a straight pipe was put in their place. The life in a scrap crime riddled city. It's okay, with how much I talked the dealer down, I still come out okay after having that fixed right. Second, I did my first oil change right after buying and discovered the idiot that welded in the pipes must have changed the oil too. The truck has a F-150 v-8 and therefore takes a fat filter. The filter last put on was smaller than what I put on the Ranger.

I'm surprised they even sold it to you with no cats. Here in Maryland the car has to pass inspection because you can ever drive it off the lot.

And I feel your pain with having to deal with previous idiot owner issues. When I bought my Mustang I noticed I was getting a lot of road noise coming up through the shifter assembly. I opened up the center console and found that when the previous moron had installed a new shifter they didn't bother to reseat the rubber shifter boot. The best part was that the farking thing was actually in place upside down even though there is a farking arrow on the side pointing down the the words "This Side Down" printed next to it. Also found out that they had replaced the rear speakers at some point but couldn't be bothered to properly remove the trim panels so one of the tabs is deformed and will never seat properly again.


MI doesn't have inspection laws. My dad gave me his Ranger because NC does and all the mechanics he knew couldn't fix the engine light nor could he sell it. I fixed it in two weeks by putting in gas treatment. Quite funny really, the code was telling them the #5 plug was misfiring. It turned out being a fouled injector. The truck has all new plugs, wires and everything else electrical checked out. I considered the injectors and went with the cheap 'clean them first plan' and it worked. I waited a month before I told him.
 
2013-01-28 10:11:31 AM  

FizixJunkee: "Ikam: JohnAnnArbor: WhippingBoy: SpdrJay: What about those stupid Jesus fish?

Worse than that are those stupid stick-figure decals that show every member of your family, including your pets.

Why don't people just get a bumper-sticker that says "The Douchebag Family"?

I saw a zombie one recently. That was almost tolerable.

www.wickedfunnypictures.com

This one is the most annoying one I've seen yet."



Especially considering who's probably making the payments on that nice, new SUV full of kids he's never allowed to see.
 
2013-01-28 10:23:52 AM  
Yes, nowadays the oil lasts more than 3,000 miles, but you need to get a good filter. Filters have a point where they gather too much crud and bypass the filter media. Also if you use full synthetic oil, get a full synthetic filter.

And don't use Fram.
 
2013-01-28 10:44:19 AM  
9. Using generic aftermarket parts instead of original equipment manufacturer (OEM)-quality parts

A load of crap. Many aftermarket parts are equal to or superior to OEM parts. A better item they failed to include would be

9. Change your radiator coolant per manufacturere's recommendations.
 
2013-01-28 10:45:26 AM  

wambu: 9. Using generic aftermarket parts instead of original equipment manufacturer (OEM)-quality parts

A load of crap. Many aftermarket parts are equal to or superior to OEM parts. A better item they failed to include would be

9. Change your radiator coolant per manufacturere's recommendations.


Sorry, they buried that with some others to get the items down to a list of 10.
 
2013-01-28 11:36:55 AM  
If you have those wireless tire pressure sensor/valve thingies, do not use any kind of Fix-A-Flat in your tires. It will make those very expensive items non-functional ($130+/ea. for a Yaris).
 
2013-01-28 12:07:10 PM  
My favorite CSB about car maintenance.

I was dating a girl who had a friend who had car problems. So she asked me to drive around with her friend and see if I could figure out what was going on.

My dad had owned his own car repair shop, but I was a computer nerd (and my parents divorced when I was four), so I only knew a little about how cars worked. I wasn't sure I'd be able to help, but I went along anyway.

The girl told me her family had bad luck with cars, even when buying new. Supposedly they didn't have a car last more than (I think -it's been a while here) 30,000 miles. -Even a Toyota and a Honda.

So we drive around the block and the car starts smoking, and then it starts smoking *really bad*. I have her pull into a service station and look the car over. The engine was overheating. I asked her the last time she had changed her oil... she couldn't tell me, but she said something to the effect of her dad had figured the whole changing your oil every 3000 miles was a scam and that car repair shops were out to get you.

I checked her oil... The dipstick came out with no oil on it. I cleaned it and put it in again, making sure to put it all the way in this time... a little bit of burnt black, sticky oil came out.

I was dumbfounded. I had never seen a car essentially run without oil. -She had burned almost all of it off. I told her she needed oil to run the car, she wasn't sure and wanted to talk to her dad... Luckily he didn't pick up his phone. I went inside and bought a quart of oil. I put it in, and had her start the car... surprise, it quit smoking!

She hugged me as tight as she could... I think she even started crying.

Now, what was interesting here is that her family had grown up in New York City I believe, and none of them had ever actually had to have a car. In Tennessee they needed one, so for the first time bought one. Her dad (I guess) didn't want to seem like a guy who knew nothing about cars, so he just assumed all auto repair shops were crooks and listened to some poor advice about the changing your oil every 3000 miles thing was unnecessary. (Yes, I know it's not always necessary to do it that often, but for The general population, it's a good rule of thumb in case they are running the car into the ground).

What kills me is that they destroyed several cars this way and still didn't listen to any mechanics.

/end CSB
 
2013-01-28 12:13:36 PM  

Spartan_Manhandler: King Something: For some reason, "driving through a wooden shed," "dropping a caravan on it," "setting it on fire" and "imploding a twelve-storey building directly beneath it" are absent from the list.

The article says "car." A Hilux is a minor deity.

I remember watching some documentry or youtube video about couple guys who literally blew up a hilux with explosives, submerged it on the sea during high tide and drop another car on it and the truck still turned on and drove afterward?

I know a lot of guerilla fighters/terrorist/etc who uses toyota pickups (AKA technicals) to mount AAA batteries, cannons and other weapons on the truck bed going through basically unpaven roads and beating the hell out of the truck.
 
2013-01-28 12:14:40 PM  
Judging by the length and vehemence of this discussion thread - bravo, subby, bravo.

A masterpiece of meta-trolling.
 
2013-01-28 12:19:33 PM  
As a guy who replaced nearly all of the suspension components in his rig last night installing a suspension lift, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

I start thinking about buying oil and a filter when I hit 3000 miles. At around 4000 I start getting serious about it, and by the time I reach 5000 it's done. The only reason I do it that early is because I use my rig as a weekend warrior on the trails. I'm much more concerned about the fluids in the diffs, transfer case, transmission, and generally anything that might go underwater from time to time.
 
2013-01-28 12:47:01 PM  

spickus: Pribar: Not good turned a 99 buck brake job into a 1000 plus Odyssey

Considering that the rotor, caliper and pads can be replaced for less than $100 (one wheel), you were robbed and need to find a different mechanic.


It wasn't mine, got the pic from a friend that owned the garage, the 1000 bucks wasn't the brakes it was the front end damage caused when the brakes failed and the lady ran off the road and hit a culvert.
 
2013-01-28 12:54:48 PM  
So, translating this list:

1. Not taking your car to a dealership who will demand that you bend over and grease up.
2. Not taking your car to a dealership who will demand that you bend over and grease up.
3. Not taking your car to a dealership who will demand that you bend over and grease up.
4. Not taking your car to a dealership who will demand that you bend over and grease up.
5. Not taking your car to a dealership who will demand that you bend over and grease up.
6. Not taking your car to a dealership who will demand that you bend over and grease up.
7. Not taking your car to a dealership who will demand that you bend over and grease up.
8. Not taking your car to a dealership who will demand that you bend over and grease up.
9. Not taking your car to a dealership who will demand that you bend over and grease up.
10. Not taking your car to a dealership who will demand that you bend over and grease up.


Got it.
 
2013-01-28 01:25:28 PM  
Where's "Let Lindsay Lohan borrow it"? Feh.
 
2013-01-28 01:38:06 PM  

Sid_6.7: Those are definitely not the worst things.

I can think of:

-Allow random strangers to joy ride
-Donate to a school carnival fundraiser as a "whack with a sledgehammer for a dollar" car
-Douse seats with gasoline and light on fire
-Drive into lava flow from volcano
-Park anywhere in Detroit
-Loan to college students fresh from a kegger on a Saturday night at 3 a.m.

Etc., etc.

Slightly dramatic in our headline, are we?


Allow plumber boyfriend to store welding equipment inside.
 
2013-01-28 02:08:54 PM  

HiFiGuy: Where's "Let Lindsay Lohan borrow it"? Feh.


It's at least two points ahead of "If the noise goes away, that means the car has repaired itself."
 
2013-01-28 02:34:35 PM  

jonohull: Fram


what's wrong with Fram?
I usually pay more for a Bosch, but I've used plenty of Fram filters before.
 
2013-01-28 02:54:43 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: I remember watching some documentry or youtube video about couple guys who literally blew up a hilux with explosives, submerged it on the sea during high tide and drop another car on it and the truck still turned on and drove afterward?


Yes, it's literally what many of us were referring to. If you want to see the three parts again, youtube search for "top gear hilux".
 
2013-01-28 03:01:55 PM  

vonzales: jonohull: Fram

what's wrong with Fram?
I usually pay more for a Bosch, but I've used plenty of Fram filters before.


Some years back, Fram oil filters were known for cheap internal construction using cardboard and no shunt valve should the filter get clogged. Don't know if this has changed since.

There was an electrical engineer who had a Fram filter collapse internally and toast the motor in his Jeep. He went out and bought around 20 different off-the-shelf oil filters, cut away a section of each with a bandsaw, and posted pics on the web showing the the differences in construction. This caused quite a stir at the time, especially on motorcycle forums.

Even before this, I had been using Hastings filters from the local auto parts store. The first time I went there for a filter, I said I wanted a Fram #xxxx. They said "No, you don't." and sold me the equivalent Hastings. Later on, they had a display that showed the difference.
 
2013-01-28 03:25:27 PM  

Archimedes' Principal: Yeah, I get all my great car advice from Yahoo.

/ And my financial advice from my local Indian casino.


You bet big on black. It good bet. Also make us rich.
 
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