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2013-01-28 12:08:06 AM

TommyymmoT: Same here. Brakes are one of the few things I won't work on.


Dude brakes are one way to really save money. And usually not hard to do, disk brakes are easy peesie.
 
2013-01-28 12:09:53 AM
Use only OEM parts bit means this was sponsored by a car company or a dealership association. Call up your dealer and ask for a lifetime guaranteed starter. No such thing. Get one for half the price from a parts chain. Undo one battery terminal, one starter wire and 2 bolts then redo them and you're set for life and you'll save hundreds on a 20 minute job. If you can change out a hard drive on a laptop you can change out pretty much anything short of your drive train on your econobox.
 
2013-01-28 12:10:39 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: [www.examiner.com image 512x384]
Yeah, it looks dumb, but you get an extra 25hp just from the backflow.


See, you have these idiots in their crappy ass cars wanting to look like an STI, they've made the STI wing seem like a joke itself, but it isn't.

"Let's speak to the functionality of the STI wing. We hate to disappoint some people, but it actually does work. Subaru spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop that particular wing and then spent many, many hours testing and tweaking the wing in wind tunnels.

The wing is specifically designed to provide a significant amount of downforce past 70 mph road speed. The wing reduces lift and increases the high speed stability. The STI aerodynamics were further enhanced in 2006, with the addition of a roof vane spoiler, which stabilizes the air flow to the rear wing."

Link
 
2013-01-28 12:10:46 AM
The best example of the snowball effect of missed car repairs is the air filter. It costs about 20 bucks to replace, but if left alone, a dirty filter can bust oxygen (02) sensors in cars, which cost as much as $250 to replace. And when the sensor fails, you'll first see your gas mileage plunge, then possibly wind up with a $1,000 bill to replace your catalytic converter.

A dirty air filter on a fuel injection vehicle will not harm the O2 sensor. In fact a dirty air filter does not affect mileage as many of these stupid articles claim. A dirty air filter may lower your maximum horsepower, though.
 
2013-01-28 12:13:24 AM

Government Fromage: Random Anonymous Blackmail: I was actually at a tire place waiting to get my vehicle serviced when a couple had just come back after leaving. The tech forgot to put the lug nuts back on the wheel.

I left.

I had a lube place forget to put oil in.


Lube place put the oil pan bolt in with an impact and stripped the threads. The plug didn't fail until 500 miles outside of town on a family vacation. My counsin saw the oil pressure drop so he cut the ignition and coasted the car to the side of the road. Grease monkey place denied any wrong doing and said they do it all the time and blamed it on my cousin.
 
2013-01-28 12:15:49 AM

RabidJade: Government Fromage: Random Anonymous Blackmail: I was actually at a tire place waiting to get my vehicle serviced when a couple had just come back after leaving. The tech forgot to put the lug nuts back on the wheel.

I left.

I had a lube place forget to put oil in.

Lube place put the oil pan bolt in with an impact and stripped the threads. The plug didn't fail until 500 miles outside of town on a family vacation. My counsin saw the oil pressure drop so he cut the ignition and coasted the car to the side of the road. Grease monkey place denied any wrong doing and said they do it all the time and blamed it on my cousin.


That's why I use a Fumoto Valve, never have to worry about cross threading or stripping the head of the bolt.

I had a clutch/flywheel replaced on my Audi and the mechanic forgot to change the gasket on the driveshaft. I was driving through the DC Snowmageddon of 2010 and that old gasket blew, got fluid all over the brand new clutch/flywheel. He refused to fix it, said I had been "racing"
 
2013-01-28 12:15:58 AM
Filling the gas tank with syrup, setting it on fire, running over it with a steamroller, shooting the engine block and radiator with a .50 cal--then burying it in a pile of salt and urinating on it--ISN'T as bad as ignoring the check engine light?

Weird... Good to know, though.
 
2013-01-28 12:16:44 AM

Pribar: [i135.photobucket.com image 533x400]


But it stopped squealing so I thought the problem had went away....


I've seen something like that. The OE caliper of the ex's 98 Cavalier siezed. It would extend when you pressed the pedal but not retract when you let off. By the time I got to it things were bad. The outside half of the rotor was ground down so far that I could see the outline of the vanes in the metal. That half of the rotor wasnt all gone, but what was left of it was paper thin and razor sharp. I wish I took a picture of it. 2 hours and a trip to the auto parts store later and the car had all new (rebuilt calipers, whatever) brake hardware up front. I hated that farking car. The transmission died a year later.
 
2013-01-28 12:17:00 AM
www.dailyinterweb.com

Ground effects and low profile tires can significantly increase your acceleration times and boost aerodynamics resulting in ~35hp improvement over stock bodies.
 
2013-01-28 12:17:24 AM

King Something: For some reason, "driving through a wooden shed," "dropping a caravan on it," "setting it on fire" and "imploding a twelve-storey building directly beneath it" are absent from the list.


You forgot sending it out to sea.
-J-
 
2013-01-28 12:18:49 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: Pribar: [i135.photobucket.com image 533x400]


But it stopped squealing so I thought the problem had went away....

I've seen something like that. The OE caliper of the ex's 98 Cavalier siezed. It would extend when you pressed the pedal but not retract when you let off. By the time I got to it things were bad. The outside half of the rotor was ground down so far that I could see the outline of the vanes in the metal. That half of the rotor wasnt all gone, but what was left of it was paper thin and razor sharp. I wish I took a picture of it. 2 hours and a trip to the auto parts store later and the car had all new (rebuilt calipers, whatever) brake hardware up front. I hated that farking car. The transmission died a year later.


I had to check your profile because I could have sworn no one else dated my ex at that time... :P
 
2013-01-28 12:18:56 AM

Sid_6.7: I'm willing to do work on my car when it is not something that might end up being a legal liability thing, like brakes.


Then there's also, you know, the huge safety issue. Wouldn't mess with mine no matter how much $ it meant saving.
 
2013-01-28 12:19:57 AM
Is "plowing into a crowded farmers market" on the list?
 
2013-01-28 12:20:47 AM

Feral_and_Preposterous: running over it with a steamroller


Here c-c-c-comes Ken to k-k-k-kill me!
 
2013-01-28 12:20:50 AM

gibbon1: Billy Bathsalt: I don't work on my high-tech car, I work on my low-tech truck

High tech cars are actually not that complicated. Compare and contrast a late model car with a 1984 Honda Accord, farking hoses and other pneumatic doodads everywhere.


The smog and emissions systems on the newer cars are what add to the complexity of the engine bays. We traded cleaner air and less fuel efficiency for the ability to work on our own vehicles. Pulling the engine and rebuilding it on a 1996 truck was hell compared to a 1986 of the same model.

//have worked on the new and old
 
JVD
2013-01-28 12:21:13 AM
The check engine light was on in my dad's last truck for 200,000 miles.
Some errors are BS, some are not.

I wouldn't trust some minimum wage flunkie with my oil changes. I do those myself. Wix filter and Motorcraft oil for $30-35, 15 minutes of my time and it's done.

You'd have to be a retard to not pull over right away if you are overheating or have your oil light comes on.
 
2013-01-28 12:21:46 AM
I have an Audi that has been very good to me. Take it in for service every 10k miles and do nothing in between other than check the tire pressure unless a light turns on (has happened once). Once the free maintenance was over I started taking it to a local VW mechanic who has done me right. 10 years 110k miles and going strong. The whole "change your oil every 3000 miles" is bunk. Audi tech I talked to said the oil would last 20k as long as you're not driving like an asshat but they recommend 10k to be conservative.
 
2013-01-28 12:23:13 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: [www.dailyinterweb.com image 500x375]

Ground effects and low profile tires can significantly increase your acceleration times and boost aerodynamics resulting in ~35hp improvement over stock bodies.


poor guy, if he hadn't wasted all that money on mods could have just bought a car that could do what he was trying to emulate.

www.autoweek.com
 
2013-01-28 12:23:44 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: [www.dailyinterweb.com image 500x375]

Ground effects and low profile tires can significantly increase your acceleration times and boost aerodynamics resulting in ~35hp improvement over stock bodies.


Looks like a lawn mower.
 
2013-01-28 12:24:48 AM

gibbon1: KrispyKritter: Once had a '68 Chevy Malibu wagon shut down, overheated. Let it cool, had to add 5 QTS of oil and it ran just fine. They used to build the crap out of cars.

The big difference between your 68 Malibu and all modern cars is the the former has a cast iron cylinder head and the news one (if last 30 years is new) are all heat treated aluminum. The aluminum ones warp when the car overheats. The other difference is the cooling system on modern cars is pressurized, if you have a leak then the engine will pee out coolant and then over heat.


Cooling systems have been pressurized since cooling systems started using glycol and water.
 
2013-01-28 12:25:21 AM

cyberspacedout: Sid_6.7: I'm willing to do work on my car when it is not something that might end up being a legal liability thing, like brakes.

Then there's also, you know, the huge safety issue. Wouldn't mess with mine no matter how much $ it meant saving.


Brakes are stupidly easy to fix. Changing the pads/rotors on a car for $200 is just stupid. You can get a pair of rotors for 25 and performance brakes for 90. Changing the pad/rotor takes very little time.
 
2013-01-28 12:26:07 AM

OgreMagi:
3. Not changing the oil, or not having it changed on time

3000 mile oil changes only make sense with older cars. New models can go much longer between oil changes.


Probably why they said "on time" instead of every 3000 miles.

FTA: The old go-to rule for oil changes was to refresh every 3,000 miles. But most experts agree drivers should go by the schedule their car's manufacturer dictates instead.
"Frequent oil changes do not necessarily mean better performance or longer engine life," CalRecycle Director Caroll Mortensen told The Auto Channel.


8. Having unqualified shops service your vehicle

Because only the car dealership is qualified to work on your car. Trust us, no one else could possible know how to fix your car and we charge three times as much because of our expertise.


So your advice would be to take it to a service shop instead, just make sure they do quality work first? Pretty much what their advice is, since they did not differentiate between a service shop or dealership.

This list is already inane enough without your help. It's easy enough to pick apart without making them say things they haven't said.
 
2013-01-28 12:26:26 AM

TommyymmoT: Sid_6.7: TommyymmoT: LarryDan43: Please don't youtube videos of car repair! You might discover how simple and inexpensive it is.

True, though make sure you watch videos from more than one source.
I've seen horrifically bad advice given in some YouTube DIY videos.

I'm willing to do work on my car when it is not something that might end up being a legal liability thing, like brakes.

Same here. Brakes are one of the few things I won't work on.


Brakes are easy. I've changed pads, calipers, and rotors several times and a master cylinder once. So long as you pay attention it's hard to screw up. My car needs a timing belt and water pump soon. That's something I'm wary of doing, mostly because I have an interference engine. I plan to buy a new DD come spring. So I can take my time if I decide to be overly cautious and need to have the car not running for a couple of days. Or I can just take the motorcycle, too.

Working on cars is a lot like working on computers. Do lots of research and jump right in. Although with cars it helps to be mechanically inclined.

/Just started restoring a 1965 Honda CA95. Gonna be fun.
//No, really. I love that kind of sfuff.
 
2013-01-28 12:29:17 AM

gibbon1: TommyymmoT: Same here. Brakes are one of the few things I won't work on.

Dude brakes are one way to really save money. And usually not hard to do, disk brakes are easy peesie.


I just might delve into it the next time it comes up, but that's gonna be a while, because the car is fairly new.
I have a preposterous amount of bought/inherited tools.
Never once, have I regretted a tool purchase, because they pay for themselves over, and over.

Well, except for a lathe I bought at a garage sale, because I really don't know how to use one, but I still sold it for twice what I bought it for.
 
2013-01-28 12:31:30 AM

Girion47: Brakes are stupidly easy to fix. Changing the pads/rotors on a car for $200 is just stupid.


Good thing my honest, locally owned garage in my town of about 3k people doesn't charge anywhere near $200 for brakes.

It's all about where you go.
 
2013-01-28 12:32:35 AM

Pribar: UsikFark: Pribar:

[i135.photobucket.com image 533x400]

But it stopped squealing so I thought the problem had went away....

Okay, I don't remove wheels from cars, so I may be a little slow on this.. but is that the result of metal being removed from the brake disk, presumably because the brake pads wore out?

You could say that, a normal disc rotor looks like this:

[i135.photobucket.com image 400x266]

The one I originally linked had the shoes worn down to the steel core which ate through the rotor to the cooling vanes and actually caused it to separate from the hub. Not good turned a 99 buck brake job into a 1000 plus Odyssey


I've seen them wore down to the fins but not to the point of seperation. I guess it falls in line like when my brother's van started knocking from low oil he just turned the radio up.
 
2013-01-28 12:32:43 AM
images.wikia.com

An aftermarket muffler can help increase the airflow of the exhaust valves and provide anywhere from 20 to 50hp improvements in torque.
 
2013-01-28 12:33:58 AM

JVD: The check engine light was on in my dad's last truck for 200,000 miles.
Some errors are BS, some are not.


Maybe but if you live in a place where emission checks are done you probably can't pass with a lit CEL. The one in my '04 truck lights up intermittently. I bought a cheap OBDII scanner to find out it's a very small fuel vapor leak. Last time I had to take it for emissions I used the scanner to clear the codes, drove it enough to get all the measurements set again except the vapor, then ran it in quick for the test before it realized it was leaking vapor and relit the CEL.

If your CEL is flashing that's actual bad news. Only time I ever had that happen, I had an injector die and its cylinder was missing. Not much fun to drive a V6 that's only hitting on five
 
2013-01-28 12:34:07 AM

Aidan: I had to check your profile because I could have sworn no one else dated my ex at that time... :P


Heh. One day I get a call from her. She was concerned because the submarine light lit up on the instrument cluster.
 
2013-01-28 12:38:13 AM
Over the past 1.5 months, I've committed like half of those on a single series of problems. Car started acting up in early December, and CE light came on, then started blinking. Took it to my mechanic, who replaced my spark plugs but half-assed the job. When the problem came back, he then gave me some other bullshiat part which did nothing. So then I had my roommate (car salesman)'s mechanic look at it. He's not a Mazda guy, he's a high-end German cars guy, so while he had some thoughts, he didn't want to do anything too big that could fark my car.

So finally I took it to the dealer two weeks ago. My roommate helped by dropping the name of the head service guy for the parent company of both dealers, which got me a discount and a "No seriously, we won't fark you" promise. Original mechanic should've replaced the coils with the spark plugs, and there was other broken shiat also. Got it fixed, got it back.

Two days later the farking light comes back on. Take it back to the dealer, and it looks like the catalytic converter is shot. So $2000 spent on repairs and a rental (would've been more if I didn't have a coworker who could drive me to and from work basically on demand), and it still won't pass inspection unless I put another $1500 in it.
 
2013-01-28 12:39:34 AM

thorthor: Also, liberal political stickers in my state will result in some tebagger keying your car every time. Yeah its that bad.


Works both ways. My neighbor had a Gadsden flag on his back window and had he car keyed and tires slashed more than once. Immaturity and lack of intelligence can be lacking on both sides of the isle.
 
2013-01-28 12:41:46 AM
i.imgur.com
It could get wrecked...stolen...scratched...breathed on wrong...a pigeon could shiat on it! Who knows?
 
2013-01-28 12:52:01 AM
My goodness. This is a list by speds, for speds.
 
2013-01-28 12:56:59 AM

Jim_Callahan: So... "don't intentionally not fix things that you know to be broken or malfunctioning", basically.

Insightful. I would never have thought of that.


This. The article amounted to "don't ignore the idiot lights."
 
2013-01-28 12:59:01 AM
toyota-supra.net

Upgrading to a 4-point racing seat can lighten a car by up to 20kg and increase red-line efficiency by up to 45%.
 
2013-01-28 12:59:49 AM

StoPPeRmobile: Smeggy Smurf: Billy Bathsalt: I don't work on my high-tech car, I work on my low-tech truck

Older rigs FTW

Computer make is easy to troubleshoot harness problems and ensure your gas guzzler starts every time you turn the key.


No computer means no electronic bullshiat to try to figure out. It's all mechanical and electrical. Easy stuff to figure out. That electronic shiat isn't.

/ought to swap out the 350 for a diesel with a turbo
//one day...
 
2013-01-28 01:01:40 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: [www.dailyinterweb.com image 500x375]

Ground effects and low profile tires can significantly increase your acceleration times and boost aerodynamics resulting in ~35hp improvement over stock bodies.


Until you drive it on a public road and fukbliterate your hooptie.
 
2013-01-28 01:03:15 AM

RminusQ: Over the past 1.5 months, I've committed like half of those on a single series of problems. Car started acting up in early December, and CE light came on, then started blinking. Took it to my mechanic, who replaced my spark plugs but half-assed the job. When the problem came back, he then gave me some other bullshiat part which did nothing. So then I had my roommate (car salesman)'s mechanic look at it. He's not a Mazda guy, he's a high-end German cars guy, so while he had some thoughts, he didn't want to do anything too big that could fark my car.

So finally I took it to the dealer two weeks ago. My roommate helped by dropping the name of the head service guy for the parent company of both dealers, which got me a discount and a "No seriously, we won't fark you" promise. Original mechanic should've replaced the coils with the spark plugs, and there was other broken shiat also. Got it fixed, got it back.

Two days later the farking light comes back on. Take it back to the dealer, and it looks like the catalytic converter is shot. So $2000 spent on repairs and a rental (would've been more if I didn't have a coworker who could drive me to and from work basically on demand), and it still won't pass inspection unless I put another $1500 in it.


Some states have a spending limit for the I/M test.  If you provide proof you've spent that amount and still can't pass you can be issued a waiver.  Check and see.  I think in Anchorage it was something like $700 until they stopped doing them.
 
2013-01-28 01:07:45 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: [toyota-supra.net image 497x303]

Upgrading to a 4-point racing seat can lighten a car by up to 20kg and increase red-line efficiency by up to 45%.


I'm not saying you're fat, because really, how would I know?
But it cracks me up when I hear fat people talk about how their car is more efficient, because it's lighter by 20kg.
 
2013-01-28 01:14:58 AM
Yeah...because my Nissan "oil" light will come on around 8,000 miles...but the dealership would really prefer I would change it at 3,000, even though the factory setting say 3,700 at the least.
 
2013-01-28 01:29:15 AM

King Something: For some reason, "driving through a wooden shed," "dropping a caravan on it," "setting it on fire" and "imploding a twelve-storey building directly beneath it" are absent from the list.


The article says "car." A Hilux is a minor deity.
 
2013-01-28 01:45:43 AM

gibbon1: TommyymmoT: Same here. Brakes are one of the few things I won't work on.

Dude brakes are one way to really save money. And usually not hard to do, disk brakes are easy peesie.


agreed, brakes are crazy easy to work on. way easier in current models then they were in 30 year ago models
 
2013-01-28 01:50:03 AM
www.3si.org

An unobtrusive Type R decal can add an extra 5bhp and improve the looks of your car.
 
2013-01-28 01:58:37 AM

Vexed Thespian: The best example of the snowball effect of missed car repairs is the air filter. It costs about 20 bucks to replace, but if left alone, a dirty filter can bust oxygen (02) sensors in cars, which cost as much as $250 to replace. And when the sensor fails, you'll first see your gas mileage plunge, then possibly wind up with a $1,000 bill to replace your catalytic converter.

huh.... this might actually explain a few things with my car.... crap.

/wasn't sure if I was right when I thought my car went from 380 gallons a tank to 240... just told myself I must not have reset the odometer.

..csb


Question: Could this be wrong with my brand new Chrysler 200? I drove 3,300 miles across the country at 27 MPG, and then drove in the city at a dropping average going down from 23 to 17 MPG. The tiny little bit of city driving I did in MI was at 23 MPG.

/Some of it has to be the 35 MPH speed limits, and ubiquitous poorly-timed lights. I'm lucky to make 10 MPH here, whereas I could make an average of 25-30 on most side streets, and could roll at 48 on certain timed ones.
 
2013-01-28 02:10:00 AM

RminusQ: pass inspection


Find a better state. One without inspections.

Or at that point, figure out what your annual repair budget is, and see if it's greater than the annual payment on a new car with a sweet warranty. $3.5K for a repair on a car that'll just break again in a few months gets you a fairly nice down payment on a new car, or pretty far into a meh used car. Personally, if you've got the money for payment and insurance, take out a longer term loan on a new car. My Chrysler 200 with the 7-year warranty is $400/month for 60 months. The nice used 70-year old car with 100,000 miles on it and no warranty was $400 a month for 36 months. Is getting an extra 80,000 miles maintenance-free out of a new car worth an extra $10K (Yes.)?

/Ah the joys of being driven to school in a 1982 Corolla with ripped seats that someone had bought for $800.
 
2013-01-28 02:21:23 AM

meyerkev: The nice used 70-year old car with 100,000 miles on it and no warranty was $400 a month for 36 months.


It'll be a lot harder to find parts for as well.
 
2013-01-28 02:28:25 AM

Spartan_Manhandler: meyerkev: The nice used 70-year old car with 100,000 miles on it and no warranty was $400 a month for 36 months.

It'll be a lot harder to find parts for as well.


7-year old. (Stupid typo).

I would also add that the used car was about 50-60% cheaper insurance-wise. I don't know what people over the age of 20 pay, but at this point, my insurance is almost as much as my car payment.
 
2013-01-28 02:46:00 AM

Sid_6.7: Girion47: Brakes are stupidly easy to fix. Changing the pads/rotors on a car for $200 is just stupid.

Good thing my honest, locally owned garage in my town of about 3k people doesn't charge anywhere near $200 for brakes.

It's all about where you go.


It doesn't matter where you go - they still have to cover the cost of their mechanic's time and their overhead. The reason brakes are the best thing to do yourself is that they are not technically complicated, but do take a significant amount of time. Garages have to charge at least 30min in labor to accommodate possible problems like a frozen rotor, so you save a good chunk of money every time. Plus I don't have to worry about some guy forgetting to torque down my lug nuts because he just found out before his shift that his wife wants a divorce. Yes, carelessness happens even at the best shops.

Also, DIY saves you time once you get in the habit. I keep a few oil filters, about 3gal of oil, spare rotors, brake bads, air filter, etc on the shelf in the garage. An oil change takes me roughly 10min - I don't need to use jackstands since I can raise the car about 6" and only have my arm under it. It would take longer to drive to Jiffy Lube.
 
2013-01-28 03:03:41 AM

Girion47: cyberspacedout: Sid_6.7: I'm willing to do work on my car when it is not something that might end up being a legal liability thing, like brakes.

Then there's also, you know, the huge safety issue. Wouldn't mess with mine no matter how much $ it meant saving.

Brakes are stupidly easy to fix. Changing the pads/rotors on a car for $200 is just stupid. You can get a pair of rotors for 25 and performance brakes for 90. Changing the pad/rotor takes very little time.


Or, instead of saving $85 and blowing an hour of my weekend, I can have the dealership pick me up and give me a loaner car, go play golf, have the dealer drop off my car, pay $200 and not worry about violating the terms of my warranty. Also, if I screw up the work, I have no recourse
 
2013-01-28 03:15:32 AM

Smeggy Smurf: No computer means no electronic bullshiat to try to figure out. It's all mechanical and electrical. Easy stuff to figure out. That electronic shiat isn't.


Q: Try and figure out why your farking vacuum advance isn't working correctly some of the time.
A: The POS rebuilt carb has exactly the same farking leak as the old one.

Q: Why does the truck occasionally wheeze, stall and die, then start right back up ten minutes later?
A: The float bowl is warped, and sometime sucks air.
 
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