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(Stabley Times)   Papa John's PR flacks are trying to get CEO John Schnatter's anti-Obamacare comments removed from the internet. Let me know how that works out   ( stableytimes.com) divider line
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2013-01-27 06:14:58 PM  

AntonChigger: Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's pizza, for fark's sake. If you don't have a decent, locally-owned place near your house then can you bring me back a penguin from Ice Station Zebra?

ohboyherewego.jpg

/locally owned pizza joints are delicious
//mmmm... mother bears pizza...
///But I do like me some Pizza Hut stuffed crust...


You know Bloomington?
 
2013-01-27 06:15:02 PM  
Can't stand Papa John's no matter what, so his politics are of little importance to me.

/Damn sauce tastes like sweetened ketchup. Nasty. Better pizza my arse.
 
2013-01-27 06:15:14 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-27 06:17:22 PM  

Knucklepopper: Sitrick is one the best crisi-management companies in the business. I find it hard to believe it'd be dumb enough to try to sway reporters to remove a story. They might've asked this guy (who the fark is stableytimes, anyway?) to publish the full quote, which is totally fair, but I don't believe they asked him to take down the story.
I think this little blog platform or whatever it is, finally had someone respond to one of their cut-and-paste stories and got so excited, they did a story about it and still somehow managed to fark it up.


My guess is that Drew's got hisself another partner, since that's the second link from that site in the last four hours, and I don't recall seeing it before today.
 
2013-01-27 06:18:02 PM  
Or, you know... you're just another whiny little biatch trying to make political points.

I'm quite sure anyone can find coupons from Papa John himself worth at least 11 cents off of a pizza.
 
2013-01-27 06:21:26 PM  

LibertyHiller: My guess is that Drew's got hisself another partner, since that's the second link from that site in the last four hours, and I don't recall seeing it before today.


Every single time I've seen it in the queue it got a green, so yeah.
 
2013-01-27 06:21:42 PM  
Holy moley! How can his business survive such a hit!?

Whiney little twerp.
 
2013-01-27 06:25:08 PM  
fark Papa Johns and their nasty-ass pizza!

Speaking of Pizza, I think i'm gonna order some now...from Pizza Hut (subpar compared to Conan's pizza here in Austin, but when you are in the middle of packing up to move, 2 pizzas for $25 aint half bad)!
 
2013-01-27 06:25:14 PM  

mjjt: From the Slow Learner's Dept:

Trying to wash away the story just makes it worse, because

(a)Google effect - journos write more stories about it, and either link or refer to the original, thus lifting the page rank of the original story

(b)Human effect - you remind people of a story they would otherwise have forgotten


(c)Fark effect - pouring through old news stories trying to eek out that last bit of rage that neocons have not embraced Obamacare with the same enthusiasm
 
2013-01-27 06:25:53 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's pizza, for fark's sake. If you don't have a decent, locally-owned place near your house then can you bring me back a penguin from Ice Station Zebra?


There should be plenty of penguins left. Ice Station Zebra ate all the staff first, keeping the penguins in reserve for when they became desperate enough to eat the greasy little bastards. And, of course, the warehouse full of pot noddles remains untouched to this very day.

Woo! Shout out to Adult Swim and the cast of Sealab 2021! With a tip o' the hat to Red Dwarf.

Really, penguins are not very tasty, or they'd be extinct.

As for being exclusively Southern hemisphere, the French called two species of birds "pingouins". One of them is extinct but the other is not. It sort of ressembles the extinct Great Auk a little, or puffins, which are plentiful. These were entirely Northern hemisphere birds and are the penguins that Anatole France wrote about in his famous satire, Penguin Island.

The claymation children's cartoon, Pingu, about southern hemisphere penguins, takes its name from the bird and reflects the French pronunciation of Pingouin as three syllables. It is made for an international audience so the birds don't talk English, French or any other language but as sort of internationalized mic-mac or mish-mash that sometimes sounds comprehensible, like Kenny's muttering through his hood on South Park.
 
2013-01-27 06:29:32 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's pizza, for fark's sake. If you don't have a decent, locally-owned place near your house then can you bring me back a penguin from Ice Station Zebra?


These assholes just opened up in Stamford, across the street from a family-run place that has been there for like 30 years. And Stamford is a bit of a pizza town, too. It astonishes me that people actually go there. Every time I pass there, I just wish for them to close. Their presence pisses me off.
 
2013-01-27 06:30:56 PM  
Walked past a Papa Johns in NYC recently....i didn't know i was near one and i smelled a stink (which i later realized was their pizza wafting out) and I thought "What the fark, is there a convention of Homeless Against Showering ' going on nearby?" Cuz it smelled like homeless feet.
 
2013-01-27 06:34:56 PM  

desertfool: Can't stand Papa John's no matter what, so his politics are of little importance to me.

/Damn sauce tastes like sweetened ketchup. Nasty. Better pizza my arse.


Overly sweet sauce, clumpy bland cheese, greasy, greasy meat, dry crust.
 
2013-01-27 06:35:25 PM  

brantgoose:
I think we should make that a verb, along the lines of the substantive noun, Santorum.

Used in a sentence:  Oh, go schnatter some where else, you schnattering idiot.

Perhaps it means "to talk on the web so as to sound fat or fat-headed". That would be a good tie-in with Papa John's, which I assume is some kind of fast food joint.


I second this!

And, let's make it more specific, i.e., "to make a fat-headed, offensive public statement; one that you will later claim was taken out of context". Example: "I had to turn the radio off when I heard Rush schnattering on about ObamaCare."
 
2013-01-27 06:38:00 PM  
Stephen Colbert even suggested how Papa John's could pay for health care costs in this video, thereby saving the money.
 
GBB
2013-01-27 06:40:04 PM  
OH SCHNAT! No he d'i'n't.
 
2013-01-27 06:41:43 PM  

Acravius: Should he charge $0.15 more per pizza sold for his workers to have health care, or pay his workers $7.50 an hour more than minimum wage that would allow them to pay for it themselves?


The problem is, according to John Schnatter's response on HuffPost, they're not his workers. They are the workers of the franchisee.

Schnatter supposedly was asked franchisee owners would raise their prices or cut worker hours in response to the ACA. He said that it was a no brainer, of course they would. But the media took it as an attack against the ACA and ran with it.

So now Schnatter is in a media shiatstorm. He clarified his position, but it hasn't been widely reported. So he can try to hire some PR firm to erase the Internet (haha, not likely) or he can bite the bullet and require all franchisee owners to offer benefits under the ACA, regardless if they're full or part time (sidesteps the issue of mandating that a minimum % of the crew be full time), when they renew their franchisee contract.

I think the PR firm is going to fail. Total Streisand Effect. Suck it up, bite the bullet and make Papa John's 100% covered under the ACA. That way, I can get back to eating some PJ's when I am too lazy to drive over to Papa Murphy's.
 
2013-01-27 06:48:20 PM  
papa johns is the worst of the chain pizza companies. I used to think it was good til I had real pizza and now I can never eat it again.
 
2013-01-27 06:49:59 PM  
I love how everyone on Fark, successful millionaire businessmen that they are, are offering business advice to Schattner.

"Clearly, this make the most sense..... As you can see, my life choices have led me to my mother's basement so I obviously know how to run a huge corporation better than you do."
 
2013-01-27 06:51:49 PM  

gaslight: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x737]


If that top data point is when legal action was threatened, that chart appears to demonstrate that the photos received increasing attention before the legal threat and decreasing attention after it.
 
2013-01-27 06:56:30 PM  

Silly Jesus: I love how everyone on Fark, successful millionaire businessmen that they are, are offering business advice to Schattner.


On occasion, successful people become disconnected from reality and are unable to see the potential consequences of their actions.
 
2013-01-27 06:58:32 PM  
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reposted for THISiness it deserves.
 
2013-01-27 06:58:40 PM  

Silly Jesus: I love how everyone on Fark, successful millionaire businessmen that they are, are offering business advice to Schattner.

"Clearly, this make the most sense..... As you can see, my life choices have led me to my mother's basement so I obviously know how to run a huge corporation better than you do."


Yeah, and Ford became a millionaire because he was a total douche to his employees like every True American should be.
 
2013-01-27 06:59:03 PM  

Silly Jesus: I love how everyone on Fark, successful millionaire businessmen that they are, are offering business advice to Schattner.


Prehaps, but the people on fark are very successful consumers of pizza.
 
2013-01-27 07:00:29 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Papa John's is nasty greasy garlic-flavored garlic that you will spend DAYS trying to shiat out. Do your bowels a favor and skip it.


What flavor garlic do you prefer?

darkscout: CigaretteSmokingMan: [i172.photobucket.com image 256x320]

I don't know, that sister in rainbow bright stockings disappeared rather quickly.


What sister in rainbow bright stockings? Someone should post a picture so I can see what you're talking about...
 
2013-01-27 07:00:34 PM  

born_yesterday: desertfool: Can't stand Papa John's no matter what, so his politics are of little importance to me.

/Damn sauce tastes like sweetened ketchup. Nasty. Better pizza my arse.

Overly sweet sauce, clumpy bland cheese, greasy, greasy meat, dry crust.


Sauce...could be better. Meat isn't that bad and I've never had a bad crust from them. That said, personally I prefer Godfather's Pizza if we're talking chain franchise pizza. What is irritating is not the quality of the cheese, but the quantity. They seem unwilling or unable to put extra cheese on a pizza when requested. Internet ordering is gimmicky and even the local Papa John's admits that you are better off calling in and inquiring about the local specials.

"Obamacare" was bound to unwanted side effects. Inflation generally and loss of jobs.in some sectors. Whether the positives out weigh the negatives in the end we're still finding out, but so far...I'm not impressed.
 
2013-01-27 07:04:02 PM  

Dinjiin: Silly Jesus: I love how everyone on Fark, successful millionaire businessmen that they are, are offering business advice to Schattner.

On occasion, successful people become disconnected from reality and are unable to see the potential consequences of their actions.


I'm sure he doesn't have an army of people advising him. Clearly, random Farkers have better business sense.
 
2013-01-27 07:04:13 PM  

Calico_Jack: AntonChigger: Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's pizza, for fark's sake. If you don't have a decent, locally-owned place near your house then can you bring me back a penguin from Ice Station Zebra?

ohboyherewego.jpg

/locally owned pizza joints are delicious
//mmmm... mother bears pizza...
///But I do like me some Pizza Hut stuffed crust...

You know Bloomington?


I live there, in fact.
/Grad student
 
2013-01-27 07:05:04 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Silly Jesus: I love how everyone on Fark, successful millionaire businessmen that they are, are offering business advice to Schattner.

"Clearly, this make the most sense..... As you can see, my life choices have led me to my mother's basement so I obviously know how to run a huge corporation better than you do."

Yeah, and Ford became a millionaire because he was a total douche to his employees like every True American should be.


Que?
 
2013-01-27 07:07:36 PM  

Dinjiin: Silly Jesus: I love how everyone on Fark, successful millionaire businessmen that they are, are offering business advice to Schattner.

On occasion, successful people become disconnected from reality and are unable to see the potential consequences of their actions.



This can happen if you base every decision on the numbers on the spreadsheets in front of you and a gaggle of yes-men to reinforce the bubble. Mr John ought to work a week in one of his outlets without such an entourage.
 
2013-01-27 07:14:11 PM  

Dinjiin: Acravius: Should he charge $0.15 more per pizza sold for his workers to have health care, or pay his workers $7.50 an hour more than minimum wage that would allow them to pay for it themselves?

The problem is, according to John Schnatter's response on HuffPost, they're not his workers. They are the workers of the franchisee.

Schnatter supposedly was asked franchisee owners would raise their prices or cut worker hours in response to the ACA. He said that it was a no brainer, of course they would. But the media took it as an attack against the ACA and ran with it.

So now Schnatter is in a media shiatstorm. He clarified his position, but it hasn't been widely reported. So he can try to hire some PR firm to erase the Internet (haha, not likely) or he can bite the bullet and require all franchisee owners to offer benefits under the ACA, regardless if they're full or part time (sidesteps the issue of mandating that a minimum % of the crew be full time), when they renew their franchisee contract.

I think the PR firm is going to fail. Total Streisand Effect. Suck it up, bite the bullet and make Papa John's 100% covered under the ACA. That way, I can get back to eating some PJ's when I am too lazy to drive over to Papa Murphy's.


So when Schnatter did a fund raiser for Romney at his gigantic house, he wasn't really opposed to the ACA? Romney said that on Day 1 of his presidency that he would do a bunch of things including getting rid of "Obamacare". He's still the boss of the company and can set compliance standards for his franchisees, as you stated. The real problem is that on a shareholder conference call he said - that it would cost 11-14 cents per pizza, and if you spread it to the other menu items, the cost is probably closer to 5 cents per product, especially because of the profit margin on soda alone.

Anyways, there is so many ways that this cost shouldn't impact profitablility in his business, and his frachise's should be told how they can offset the costs or to increase their prices across the board by a nickel, and keep their workers working and increasing his companies profitability. Of course they could also leave off, 10 grams of cheese, 10 grams of sauce, and 10 grams of each topping, and save the nickel in costs per pizza that way, and the people who eat at those restaurants wouldn't be the wiser anyway.
 
2013-01-27 07:15:47 PM  

GranoblasticMan: What sister in rainbow bright stockings? Someone should post a picture so I can see what you're talking about..


OhYou.jpg

/ Been done banned for that
 
2013-01-27 07:17:55 PM  

Calico_Jack: AntonChigger: Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's pizza, for fark's sake. If you don't have a decent, locally-owned place near your house then can you bring me back a penguin from Ice Station Zebra?

ohboyherewego.jpg

/locally owned pizza joints are delicious
//mmmm... mother bears pizza...
///But I do like me some Pizza Hut stuffed crust...

You know Bloomington?


Oh god, why'd you guys have to bring that up... Now I am ever more leaning towards spring break in Indy with a jaunt down to B'ton... (can't afford a REAL vacation... might as well visit family)
 
2013-01-27 07:18:41 PM  

Silly Jesus: I'm sure he doesn't have an army of people advising him. Clearly, random Farkers have better business sense.


Cuz having an army of highly paid advisers makes you successful in everything you do.

deathandtaxesmag.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com
 
2013-01-27 07:18:43 PM  

AntonChigger: Calico_Jack: AntonChigger: Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's pizza, for fark's sake. If you don't have a decent, locally-owned place near your house then can you bring me back a penguin from Ice Station Zebra?

ohboyherewego.jpg

/locally owned pizza joints are delicious
//mmmm... mother bears pizza...
///But I do like me some Pizza Hut stuffed crust...

You know Bloomington?

I live there, in fact.
/Grad student


Live there too, but I prefer Avers.
 
2013-01-27 07:19:30 PM  

Dinjiin: So now Schnatter is in a media shiatstorm. He clarified his position, but it hasn't been widely reported. So he can try to hire some PR firm to erase the Internet (haha, not likely) or he can bite the bullet and require all franchisee owners to offer benefits under the ACA, regardless if they're full or part time (sidesteps the issue of mandating that a minimum % of the crew be full time), when they renew their franchisee contract.


It seems like a PR firm clarifying along the way might not be a bad expense.
 
2013-01-27 07:20:01 PM  

Sygonus: Never understood why corporate execs are stupid enough to make their companies the target of public flogging by making comments on hotbed political topics. Same thing with Chic-fil-A earlier this year.

Keep your mouth shut and lobby behind the scenes, but dragging your company into highly contentious political topics with public statements is the sign of an idiot.


A portion of our society fetishizes (?) successful business people the way that another worships vacuous celebrities. In both instances, it causes the recipients to start to believe their own press. They think that because they are rich and famous, that their opinions really do matter more than the hoi polloi.
 
2013-01-27 07:21:36 PM  

brantgoose: What the Schnattering Fark is a Schnatter?

I think we should make that a verb, along the lines of the substantif noun, Santorum.

Used in a sentence:  Oh, go schnatter some where else, you schnattering idiot.

"I don't know what that means", to quote David Letterman.

Perhaps it means "to talk on the web so as to sound fat or fat-headed". That would be a good tie-in with Papa John's, which I assume is some kind of fast food joint.


Not to be confused with "Shatnering".
 
2013-01-27 07:21:59 PM  

Acravius: Dinjiin: Acravius: Should he charge $0.15 more per pizza sold for his workers to have health care, or pay his workers $7.50 an hour more than minimum wage that would allow them to pay for it themselves?

The problem is, according to John Schnatter's response on HuffPost, they're not his workers. They are the workers of the franchisee.

Schnatter supposedly was asked franchisee owners would raise their prices or cut worker hours in response to the ACA. He said that it was a no brainer, of course they would. But the media took it as an attack against the ACA and ran with it.

So now Schnatter is in a media shiatstorm. He clarified his position, but it hasn't been widely reported. So he can try to hire some PR firm to erase the Internet (haha, not likely) or he can bite the bullet and require all franchisee owners to offer benefits under the ACA, regardless if they're full or part time (sidesteps the issue of mandating that a minimum % of the crew be full time), when they renew their franchisee contract.

I think the PR firm is going to fail. Total Streisand Effect. Suck it up, bite the bullet and make Papa John's 100% covered under the ACA. That way, I can get back to eating some PJ's when I am too lazy to drive over to Papa Murphy's.

So when Schnatter did a fund raiser for Romney at his gigantic house, he wasn't really opposed to the ACA? Romney said that on Day 1 of his presidency that he would do a bunch of things including getting rid of "Obamacare". He's still the boss of the company and can set compliance standards for his franchisees, as you stated. The real problem is that on a shareholder conference call he said - that it would cost 11-14 cents per pizza, and if you spread it to the other menu items, the cost is probably closer to 5 cents per product, especially because of the profit margin on soda alone.

Anyways, there is so many ways that this cost shouldn't impact profitablility in his business, and his frachise's should be told how they can offs ...


Wow, you have ALL of the answers. He should hire you immediately.
 
2013-01-27 07:23:34 PM  

jaytkay: Silly Jesus: I'm sure he doesn't have an army of people advising him. Clearly, random Farkers have better business sense.

Cuz having an army of highly paid advisers makes you successful in everything you do.

[deathandtaxesmag.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com image 585x400]


You're right. Farkers would have run a better campaign as well.

I should open a business where I connect anyone that needs anything done with Farkers. They are experts on every issue and can outperform people who've been in X position for a lifetime. I'll call it "fark You."
 
2013-01-27 07:23:42 PM  
fark Papa Johns

Salvatores Tomato Pies!
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2013-01-27 07:26:12 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: Dinjiin: Silly Jesus: I love how everyone on Fark, successful millionaire businessmen that they are, are offering business advice to Schattner.

On occasion, successful people become disconnected from reality and are unable to see the potential consequences of their actions.


This can happen if you base every decision on the numbers on the spreadsheets in front of you and a gaggle of yes-men to reinforce the bubble. Mr John ought to work a week in one of his outlets without such an entourage.


Unfortunately for him, his face is so well-known that that particular ep of Undercover Boss would be about how he had to fend off his angry workers...
 
2013-01-27 07:27:45 PM  
Linking to StableyTimes is about the same as linking to InfoWars. All the derp that's fit to blog.
 
2013-01-27 07:30:45 PM  

Brittabot: You can't take something off the Internet. It's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.


You have to keep peeing until the concentration is the same.
 
2013-01-27 07:32:55 PM  
I actually liked Dominos until I learned that the head guy was a Christian Nationalist nutter.

I then liked Papa Johns until I learned that the head guy was a militant randroid.

Pizza Hut tastes like ass.

What pizza chain do I have left to eat at with a good conscience?
 
2013-01-27 07:34:40 PM  

Silly Jesus: Acravius: Dinjiin: Acravius: Should he charge $0.15 more per pizza sold for his workers to have health care, or pay his workers $7.50 an hour more than minimum wage that would allow them to pay for it themselves?

The problem is, according to John Schnatter's response on HuffPost, they're not his workers. They are the workers of the franchisee.

Schnatter supposedly was asked franchisee owners would raise their prices or cut worker hours in response to the ACA. He said that it was a no brainer, of course they would. But the media took it as an attack against the ACA and ran with it.

So now Schnatter is in a media shiatstorm. He clarified his position, but it hasn't been widely reported. So he can try to hire some PR firm to erase the Internet (haha, not likely) or he can bite the bullet and require all franchisee owners to offer benefits under the ACA, regardless if they're full or part time (sidesteps the issue of mandating that a minimum % of the crew be full time), when they renew their franchisee contract.

I think the PR firm is going to fail. Total Streisand Effect. Suck it up, bite the bullet and make Papa John's 100% covered under the ACA. That way, I can get back to eating some PJ's when I am too lazy to drive over to Papa Murphy's.

So when Schnatter did a fund raiser for Romney at his gigantic house, he wasn't really opposed to the ACA? Romney said that on Day 1 of his presidency that he would do a bunch of things including getting rid of "Obamacare". He's still the boss of the company and can set compliance standards for his franchisees, as you stated. The real problem is that on a shareholder conference call he said - that it would cost 11-14 cents per pizza, and if you spread it to the other menu items, the cost is probably closer to 5 cents per product, especially because of the profit margin on soda alone.

Anyways, there is so many ways that this cost shouldn't impact profitablility in his business, and his frachise's should be told how the ...

 
2013-01-27 07:35:01 PM  

RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: shiatty pizza from a shiatty person.


I remember the first time I ever ate anything from Papa John's. I was on a ski trip with friends and in a town I had never been in before. When they said there were going to get pizza from Papa John's, I had no idea that it was a chain; I thought it was some local restaurant. I remember anticipating it would be good since local stuff general is. And then the disappointment when I took my first bite. I couldn't understand how a pizza joint making crap like that could stay in business when people could just get something from Domino's or Pizza Hut.

To this day it's a mystery to my why the chain has been successful. I suppose it's the same reason why Wonder Bread and Budweiser are popular in the USA. I guess most Americans like really, really bad food.
 
2013-01-27 07:36:06 PM  

jake_lex: OtherLittleGuy: Papa Johns shilling with the NFL on all those free pizzas based on a coinflip -- someone wants to divide by zero really badly.

Then again, he could get Goddell to fine people for supporting ObamaCare.

You gotta think that this promotion will cost much more than the increase in employee health care due to "ObamaCare" will be.


That's the exact sentiment I emailed to Papa Johns via their customer comment email system. I find it so odd I never heard back from them.....

/heavy sarcasm and eye rolling
 
2013-01-27 07:37:38 PM  

Silly Jesus: Clearly, random Farkers have better business sense.


Not everyone on Fark is a basement dwelling dropout.  Not everyone who heads a company is guaranteed to make a correct decision regarding every choice they face.
 
2013-01-27 07:37:58 PM  

jaytkay: Papa Johns, Godfathers, Dominoes - what's the deal with conservative assholes and bad pizza?


I dunno, maybe providing over 279,000 jobs for lazy Liberals?
 
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